How to Record: -- 60/50 fps RAW Video for 5D3 & others --

Started by RenatoPhoto, May 17, 2013, 04:46:30 PM

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motionSOUL

I've red all the topics but I'm not sure to have all well understood.
To resume, there is no way to have the image not stretched when you record 48, 50, or 60fps?
You can choose any aspect ratio combined to any resolution, you will still have to unstretch the image in AE?
Or have I missed something?
My concern isn't in the quality loss but more in the stretched grain which tends to make visible patterns to appear.

Thanks,

S.


RenatoPhoto

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painya

Not sure if this is too relevant... But with my workflow I just import to PP, or AE, and apply a crop, and hit stretch.
Good footage doesn't make a story any better.

swinxx

Hello.
How do you accomplish slowmotion with 48fps?
Do you interpret that material as 24fps material? Or do you slow it down different?

painya

Quote from: swinxx on October 05, 2013, 07:37:48 PM
Hello.
How do you accomplish slowmotion with 48fps?
Do you interpret that material as 24fps material? Or do you slow it down different?
It will play back the best if interpreted at 24fps, however if that speed doesn't suit your needs just slowing it down manually works.
Good footage doesn't make a story any better.

ultimatemale

http://vimeo.com/akpe/slowmo




Settings
ML RAW: 1920x504 (stretched to 1920x818)

Shot at 60fps
Twixtor applied at 25%

Shot on :

Canon 5D Mk3

Canon 85mm 1.2

Canon 70-200mm 2.8

Komputerbay 64gb 1000x

Post in:

RAWMagic

Adobe Lightroom4 (for color correction)

Adobe after effects cs6(for exporting to ProRess 422HQ 16bit)

Adobe Premiere cs6(for editing)

No sharpening applied to footage


inhousegoods

Shot a short in 720/60p at 1400 res, decided to leave it unstretched since I actually liked the aesthetic of it

Conformed to 23.976 fps

https://vimeo.com/78384819

jose_ugs

@ultimatemale, hey... what was your shutter about? 1/120th or even 1/240th?
and one more, do you get continuous at 60fps @ that res?

ultimatemale

Quote from: jose_ugs on November 18, 2013, 10:38:02 PM
@ultimatemale, hey... what was your shutter about? 1/120th or even 1/240th?
and one more, do you get continuous at 60fps @ that res?

My shutter speed varied depending on the lighting available at the time. sometimes was as high as 1/1000 (because i had the intention of using twixtor)

At 60fps i was only able to get about 10sec
50fps would have given me continuous.

DirNik

:: Music Videoclip >>>>> 5dmk3 RAW 50fps

::

:: Dir // Dop // Edit // Story : Nicola De Prato
:: Camera : Canon 5DmkIII (with Magic Lantern RAW )
:: Lens : Canon 24-70 2.8 // Canon 70-200 2.8 II // Canon 100 Macro 2.8
:: Graded in Davinci Resolve
:: Edited in Fcp 7

hackattack

Renato, thanks so much for the post!  I work for a studio and we used the 60fps hack for some underwater video!  Check out the write up:
http://swansonstudio.us/blog/2013/12/11/ebb-and-flow-using-magic-lantern-at-60fps/

We shot the 5dmk3 underwater at 1920x672 (only four seconds with each shot).  We then interpreted at 23.976, stretched to 1920x1080, and used The Foundry's Chronos to slow it down to match 100fps.

Here's the video with the example footage:


I'm not really sure how to embed a video, apologize for the ugly links.

Steve Kahn

Is anyone using Resolve for overcrank footage?  I can't get my 60p footage to be 60p.   Resolve conforms it all to 24p.

jose_ugs

To "fix" the 24p to your desired fps you have to go to File/Project settings/Master project settings/Timeline format/Playback frame rate

Quote from: Steve Kahn on December 17, 2013, 12:25:49 AM
Is anyone using Resolve for overcrank footage?  I can't get my 60p footage to be 60p.   Resolve conforms it all to 24p.

Danne

A little test

Here,s a comparison between two aspect ratios on a 5d mark 3 and a tutorial how to restretch several clips in 50fps in after effects.
Conclusion

(16:9) 1728 x 606 50fps works continuous and works fine interpolated to 1920x1080

Other fine alternative aspect ratio continuous is 1920x544(2:20:1)


carlosm86

is there anyway just to shoot 1080P @ 60fps thru the hdmi out put? I just placed an order for the ninjablade and it looks as if it can candle the writespeed required as well as the format.

Sganzerla

Is there any possibility of someone making a new step by step guide regarding the new options structure of some of the latest Nightly Builds?
I'm trying to get a 1920x1080 video (1920x672 stretched).

I don't know what I'm doing wrong but whenever I try to put a frame rate of 48 or 60fps in the desired FPS, I got much less in actual FPS - something around 27fps.  :-[

Edit: Problem solved, I wasn't using the HD 720p 60fps option in Canon's menu.

jose_ugs


Bassman2003

Hello,

I am thinking of installing RAW video on my 5D MKIII and I would like to ask some questions about 60p.

I have been reading a lot of threads and I am not sure about shooting with higher framerates, so here are my questions:

1) When shooting with these non-standard resolutions, what is monitoring on the LCD like?  Do you have a much smaller preview area to look at?

2) I am happy to edit and deliver in 720p60.  Is there a resolution that will be 16:9 that will only need cropping, instead of stretching?

3) I am looking at the new Sandisk 128GB CF cards which seem to be nice and fast (160 MBps read model).  If I use a resolution closer to 720p60, will I end up with more record time due to the lower data rate?

4) I would need continuous recording.  What is your resolution recommendation for 720p60 editing?

Thanks for your help!  I am sure I will ask more questions :)

bokoussama

Please has anybody tried a ML Raw slow motion with the 7D , 6D or any other body except the 5D mark 3.
It's shown in the ML Raw capabilities that either the 7D and 6D can do slow motion in Raw, but still i haven't seen any video relating slow motion done otherwise.
Thanks.

ted ramasola

Quote from: bokoussama on March 20, 2014, 04:59:28 PM
Please has anybody tried a ML Raw slow motion with the 7D , 6D or any other body except the 5D mark 3.
It's shown in the ML Raw capabilities that either the 7D and 6D can do slow motion in Raw, but still i haven't seen any video relating slow motion done otherwise.
Thanks.

check this thread. http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10195.0
5DmkII  / 7D
www.ramasolaproductions.com
Texas

Jason Montalvo

Hi Everyone,

Was hoping to get some advice. I'm currently shooting on 5D3 with the latest build. For as long as I can remember once I attempt to shoot at 60fps and play with the resolution setting i'm unable to get a write speed above 60 MB per second. Is that normal? If so i'm cool with it. At 1920 X 1080 24fps i'm able to dip into the mid 90's write speed.

Thanks in advance for all the help.

lureb74

Quote from: RenatoPhoto on May 19, 2013, 01:10:22 PM
Will do later today..

Update.... Done =  1.6473 multiplier or 164.7 %

Hi RenatoPhoto,

how do you calculate this value for the 5D3, may I ask you?

Levinson

Quote from: DirNik on November 30, 2013, 07:03:50 PM
:: Music Videoclip >>>>> 5dmk3 RAW 50fps
:: Dir // Dop // Edit // Story : Nicola De Prato
:: Camera : Canon 5DmkIII (with Magic Lantern RAW )
:: Lens : Canon 24-70 2.8 // Canon 70-200 2.8 II // Canon 100 Macro 2.8
:: Graded in Davinci Resolve
:: Edited in Fcp 7

I didn't understand a word of it, but I really enjoyed it and thought it was nicely shot. Thanks for sharing.
5d3, 5d2 & 550d

Metsadah

I just shot a music clip with lots of slomo. But I see that its a lot noisier than normal raw footage. especially in darker shots its almost unworkable with some kind of fixed noise pattern.