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psdn

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Recommend a shooting resolution
« on: July 26, 2018, 04:35:01 PM »
Hi all,

I'm not necessarily a video guy, but I'm going to attempt putting together some clips that I will shoot soon. I've been reading tons, and shooting at or below 1080p seems like a loser for various good reasons. Even with a 5D3, I have to compromise to some extent, right?. So my goal was: 1080p with a mix of 24-30fps and an attempt at 45/50/60 fps for the enjoyment of trying to do a half-baked so-motion thing.

So now I have the crop_rec module. I've tried the examples from the video on the crop_rec page, and results are varied. The whole 5x zoom thing, while clear as to execution, confusing as to what is actually happening. I doubt I'm going to shoot anything in my upcoming scenario with a frozen live view, or anything where live view isn't representative of exactly what is going on, unless someone can help me understand what I am looking at. the idea is to snag the highest quality possible.

What I'm going to be shooting doesn't need to be award winning, but it does need to come back with me and actually be recorded and eventually be shared on youtube. I just want some good and varied footage so I can play in resolve.

What's my best bet for normal video and some high FPS to be compiled together?

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* 1920x960 @ 50p (both 1:1 crop and full-frame - 3x3 pixel binning) - continuous*)
* 1920x800 @ 60p (same as above)  - continuous*)
* 1920x1080 @ 45p and 48p (3x3 binning)  - continuous at 45p*)
* 1920x1920 @ 24p (1:1 square crop) - continuous*)
* 3072x1920 @ 24p (1:1 crop)
* 3840x1536 @ 24p (1:1 crop) (corrupted frames at 1600)
* 4096x2560 @ 12.5p (1:1 crop) - continuous*) at 8 FPS
* 4096x1440 @ 25p (1:1 crop)
* Full-resolution LiveView: 5796x3870 at 7.4 fps (128ms rolling shutter) - continuous*) at 5 FPS!
* Full-width LiveView - decrease vertical resolution in the crop_rec submenu, all the way to 5796x400 @ 48 fps :)

Would I better better off using standard ML raw (pre crop_rec)? And why doesn't MLV 2.0 work at all on my 5D3?

I bought (2) 126GB cards, so I have room to do whatever.

Any thoughts are appreciated. I'm heading out this weekend, and I'd like to decide on a plan before then.

Also, any thoughts on uping to 1080p form a lower res? Not a lot of good info out on the google about that.

Thank you!

Kharak

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Re: Recommend a shooting resolution
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2018, 07:09:00 PM »
Crop_rec is experimental, as to why it is under experimenral builds. For a novice I don’t think its the best thing to start with. Then again the experimental build has lossless_compressed mlv which for non-cropped mode e.g 3x3 1920x1080 Full frame with sound will take almost half the space of vanilla MLV e.g. you can fit almost double the amount on your cf card. And it is very stable.

Basically for starters, stick to non-cropped modes and get to know the little quirks of ML operating on your cam.

For 60 fps 5x3 lossless 1920x1280 is continues, for 3x3 1920x800.. not so easy to get continues, but the quality is leagues ahead but again you have to mess with crop_rec modes and settings that for a newcomer to ML will seem quite overwhelming at this stage.

Put it like this, I just gave my brother my old 5d2 with ML on and even though we went out together to shoot some stuff and I was guiding him through ML, he quickly became overwhelmed with all the settings and possibilties of ML. So start with the basics, after you are done shooting you are at the next level, post-processing.
once you go raw you never go back

psdn

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Re: Recommend a shooting resolution
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2018, 07:20:54 PM »
Thank you Kharak,

Crop_rec is experimental, as to why it is under experimenral builds. For a novice I don’t think its the best thing to start with. Then again the experimental build has lossless_compressed mlv which for non-cropped mode e.g 3x3 1920x1080 Full frame with sound will take almost half the space of vanilla MLV e.g. you can fit almost double the amount on your cf card. And it is very stable.

Meaning: * 1920x1080 @ 45p and 48p (3x3 binning)  - continuous at 45p*)

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Basically for starters, stick to non-cropped modes and get to know the little quirks of ML operating on your cam.

I think the idea of "crop" is misleading to me. We are actually gaining more resolution, which to me is quite opposite of "crop".

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For 60 fps 5x3 lossless 1920x1280 is continues, for 3x3 1920x800.. not so easy to get continues, but the quality is leagues ahead but again you have to mess with crop_rec modes and settings that for a newcomer to ML will seem quite overwhelming at this stage.

You're referring to the binning in what you mention above?

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Put it like this, I just gave my brother my old 5d2 with ML on and even though we went out together to shoot some stuff and I was guiding him through ML, he quickly became overwhelmed with all the settings and possibilties of ML. So start with the basics, after you are done shooting you are at the next level, post-processing.

I'm not completely green, but picking something stable to go with is my goal.