Raw video on 5DMK2

Started by olik, May 15, 2013, 08:19:46 AM

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andyshon

In fact I am getting the whole clips back with this fix, its just they have a load of extra garbage added on the end.

avasarin

Is anybody noticing artifacts such as moire or aliasing with the 5Dmk2?
I have the VAF-5D2 filter, and I tried a couple of shots without it, but it was a mess. All the test I did were made with the filter ON. But even with the filter there are some artifacts with hair and horizontal lines. Is it happening because of the 1280x720 crop?
5dmk2 - Nikkor set(20-28-35-50-105mm), Vivitar 85-105 - BMPCC
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Yoshiyuki Blade

Moire and aliasing are core artifacts caused by line skipping and there's probably no way around it besides recording in 1:1 crop mode. The artifacts are probably more pronounced at 1280x720 due to the fact that it's magnifying a portion of the 1880x1250 full frame.

It's not unlike compression artifacts when encoding. High resolution video can still look better than low resolution video even both are blocky because the blocks of the high res video are smaller.

Africashot

Quote from: avasarin on May 17, 2013, 03:18:30 PM
Is anybody noticing artifacts such as moire or aliasing with the 5Dmk2?
I have the VAF-5D2 filter, and I tried a couple of shots without it, but it was a mess. All the test I did were made with the filter ON. But even with the filter there are some artifacts with hair and horizontal lines. Is it happening because of the 1280x720 crop?
I unfortunately do not own the VAF-5D2 and can only confirm that the moire gets so bad that at times it is beyond repair, it also appears in areas the h.264 would never show... I personally would not consider this for clients work without the filter because there may be surprises at the editing bay that could spoil the entire effort...
ML 5D2 & T3i

avasarin

Quote from: Yoshiyuki Blade on May 17, 2013, 03:27:21 PM
Moire and aliasing are core artifacts caused by line skipping and there's probably no way around it besides recording in 1:1 crop mode. The artifacts are probably more pronounced at 1280x720 due to the fact that it's magnifying a portion of the 1880x1250 full frame.

So we have to hope for a stable 1880x1250 or 1:1 RAW recording?
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Africashot

Quote from: avasarin on May 17, 2013, 03:36:38 PM
So we have to hope for a stable 1880x1250 or 1:1 RAW recording?
That or ultra shallow depth of field and staying away from the Zebras when out in the wild ;D
ML 5D2 & T3i

ch_d

is there any new / improved build out there for the 5DM2?
i am working right now with the 14052013 build
5D MII

olik

Quote from: ch_d on May 17, 2013, 04:10:09 PM
is there any new / improved build out there for the 5DM2?
i am working right now with the 14052013 build

There is 15th and 16th of May (first port of this thread) all thow 16th of May has some regressions and you might get files that you can not convert. So I am back on the 15th May Build
I can`t wait for someone to compile a build of today for the 5dmk2, there are so many new cool features...

ch_d

Quote from: olik on May 17, 2013, 04:20:24 PM
There is 15th and 16th of May (first port of this thread) all thow 16th of May has some regressions and you might get files that you can not convert. So I am back on the 15th May Build
I can`t wait for someone to compile a build of today for the 5dmk2, there are so many new cool features...
thank you, i´ll wait for todays builds!
5D MII

ted ramasola

Quote from: olik on May 17, 2013, 04:20:24 PM
There is 15th and 16th of May (first port of this thread) all thow 16th of May has some regressions and you might get files that you can not convert. So I am back on the 15th May Build
I can`t wait for someone to compile a build of today for the 5dmk2, there are so many new cool features...

I thought I was the only one having problems opening my files shot with may 16th build for 5d2. I was excited of the new features like the start and stop button.

Hope a new compile for 5d2 is up soon. Good job so far developers!
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Yoshiyuki Blade

Quote from: avasarin on May 17, 2013, 03:36:38 PM
So we have to hope for a stable 1880x1250 or 1:1 RAW recording?

Depending on the 5D2's hardware limits, full frame recording may not be feasible no matter how fast the CF card is. I've only seen a couple benchmarks of a 1000x card on a 5D2, but they've only reached about 65 MB/s which can get us up to 1880x840.

savale

I am not too sure yet this a limit of the compact flash interface or the cpu being the bottleneck. It might be the cpu... If that's true there is hope :)

mvejerslev

Quote from: a.d. on May 17, 2013, 01:12:58 PM
your last line
from
10 27 00 00 FB 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 A8 D1 FB FF
to
10 27 00 00 FB 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 57 81 FC FF
Update
The footer (the end part of the xy.RAW):
52 41 57 4d 58 07 d0 02 20 25 24 00 95 00 00 00
01 00 00 00 12 75 00 00 52 41 57 20 00 00 f3 5b
01 00 00 00 a4 28 3e 08 f4 04 00 00 f8 07 00 00
f2 0d 00 00 a8 12 45 00 0e 00 00 00 00 07 00 00
98 3a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 58 07 00 00
e2 04 00 00 12 00 00 00 a0 00 00 00 f4 04 00 00
f8 07 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 02
01 00 00 00 6c 12 00 00 10 27 00 00 5b 02 00 00
10 27 00 00 c2 fc ff ff 10 27 00 00 8a e1 ff ff
10 27 00 00 72 3c 00 00 10 27 00 00 b0 09 00 00
10 27 00 00 28 fa ff ff 10 27 00 00 91 07 00 00
10 27 00 00 fb 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 57 81 fc ff


A.D. Appreciate the footer for my corrupted files, however, it seems to convert to 30fps @ 1880x720, and my footage is 25fps 1880x540, causing the frames to 'roll'. Is there anything I can change to convert to 25fps? Also, I'm unsure of where exactly in the code the footer should start, since the code seems to shift around a bit (I'm a noob).
5D Mark II, PC

Africashot

Quote from: Yoshiyuki Blade on May 17, 2013, 04:40:09 PM
Depending on the 5D2's hardware limits, full frame recording may not be feasible no matter how fast the CF card is. I've only seen a couple benchmarks of a 1000x card on a 5D2, but they've only reached about 65 MB/s which can get us up to 1880x840.
I'd be absolutely fine with that in terms of aspect ratio and resolution, I see the Moire as a far bigger problem compared to the 5DMIII
ML 5D2 & T3i

CrewOfOne

Quote from: mvejerslev on May 17, 2013, 05:55:58 PM
A.D. Appreciate the footer for my corrupted files, however, it seems to convert to 30fps @ 1880x720, and my footage is 25fps 1880x540, causing the frames to 'roll'. Is there anything I can change to convert to 25fps? Also, I'm unsure of where exactly in the code the footer should start, since the code seems to shift around a bit (I'm a noob).

a.d., Thank you for the help ... It definitely solves the RAW2DNG acceptance issue! Like the other users, though, I'm finding that the resulting DNG files consist of nothing but corrupted images. Also, the source file was recorded at 23.976 fps, but this footer makes a 29.97 fps file. We're so close ... Any more advice?

Many thanks again!

a.d.

dd53ca8bbeab

Special thanks go to g3gg0 & coutts and all devs!

-lv_rec is fixed now
-pink cast comes back on 5x 10x magnify
-you can record on 5x (without pink cast); only one line corrupt at the header
-on 10x I got corrupt stripes at the footer
-you can playback slowmo in bw from your last shot

@mvejerslev &CrewOfOne
which post production app do you guys use?

24 fps & 25 fps
52 41 57 4d 58 07 38 04 b0 37 36 00 6b 00 00 00
01 00 00 00 12 75 00 00 52 41 57 20 00 00 f3 5b
01 00 00 00 a4 28 3e 08 f4 04 00 00 f8 07 00 00
f2 0d 00 00 a8 12 45 00 0e 00 00 00 00 07 00 00
98 3a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 58 07 00 00
e2 04 00 00 12 00 00 00 a0 00 00 00 f4 04 00 00
f8 07 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 02
01 00 00 00 6c 12 00 00 10 27 00 00 5b 02 00 00
10 27 00 00 c2 fc ff ff 10 27 00 00 8a e1 ff ff
10 27 00 00 72 3c 00 00 10 27 00 00 b0 09 00 00
10 27 00 00 28 fa ff ff 10 27 00 00 91 07 00 00
10 27 00 00 fb 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 57 81 fc ff

a1ex

Did the pink cast ever go away in some older build?

I believe it's an overflow in Canon code (they might allocate the raw buffer for 1x, but the 5x image is larger).

10x should be identical to 5x IMO. Will check tomorrow.

a.d.

Quote from: a1ex on May 17, 2013, 11:10:41 PM
Did the pink cast ever go away in some older build?
Thanks for your help, in build e1d271904e4c

CrewOfOne

a.d., I'm opening the DNG files in Photoshop CS6. I've been working with the May 15 build, and (almost) all those files are fine. The lv_rec failure files were recorded with the May 16 build. I'll try this different footer and see if that makes a difference.

Thanks again for the help!

CrewOfOne

Quote01 00 00 00 12 75 00 00 52 41 57 20 00 00 f3 5b
01 00 00 00 a4 28 3e 08 f4 04 00 00 f8 07 00 00
f2 0d 00 00 a8 12 45 00 0e 00 00 00 00 07 00 00
98 3a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 58 07 00 00
e2 04 00 00 12 00 00 00 a0 00 00 00 f4 04 00 00
f8 07 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 02
01 00 00 00 6c 12 00 00 10 27 00 00 5b 02 00 00
10 27 00 00 c2 fc ff ff 10 27 00 00 8a e1 ff ff
10 27 00 00 72 3c 00 00 10 27 00 00 b0 09 00 00
10 27 00 00 28 fa ff ff 10 27 00 00 91 07 00 00
10 27 00 00 fb 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 57 81 fc ff

a.d. - The good news is that the new patch of code resulted in non-corrupt files! The bad news is that it's still 29.97, which is giving a roll to the footage. All I need to do is get it to 23.976, and it'll be golden.

Thanks so much!

52 41 57 4d 58 07 38 04 b0 37 36 00 6b 00 00 00

a.d.

I ask, 'cause you could do it in post, for example if you use after effects you could adjust fps (after import)

windows: strg+alt+g
osx: ⌥+⌘+g

CrewOfOne

a.d. ... I think I figured it out! Here's the footer that works for a 23.976 file.

52 41 57 4D 58 07 D0 02 20 25 24 00 51 01 00 00
01 00 00 00 A8 5D 00 00 52 41 57 20 00 00 4A 52
01 00 00 00 A4 28 3E 04 F4 04 00 00 F8 07 00 00
F2 0D 00 00 A8 12 45 00 0E 00 00 00 FF 06 00 00
98 3A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 58 07 00 00
E2 04 00 00 12 00 00 00 A0 00 00 00 F4 04 00 00
F8 07 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 02
01 00 00 00 6C 12 00 00 10 27 00 00 5B 02 00 00
10 27 00 00 C2 FC FF FF 10 27 00 00 8A E1 FF FF
10 27 00 00 72 3C 00 00 10 27 00 00 B0 09 00 00
10 27 00 00 28 FA FF FF 10 27 00 00 91 07 00 00
10 27 00 00 FB 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 57 81 FC FF

JackDaniel412

Quote from: a.d. on May 17, 2013, 11:01:06 PM
dd53ca8bbeab

Special thanks go to g3gg0 & coutts and all devs!

-lv_rec is fixed now
-pink cast comes back on 5x 10x magnify
-you can record on 5x (without pink cast); only one line corrupt at the header
-on 10x I got corrupt stripes at the footer
-you can playback slowmo in bw from your last shot

@mvejerslev &CrewOfOne
which post production app do you guys use?

24 fps & 25 fps
52 41 57 4d 58 07 38 04 b0 37 36 00 6b 00 00 00
01 00 00 00 12 75 00 00 52 41 57 20 00 00 f3 5b
01 00 00 00 a4 28 3e 08 f4 04 00 00 f8 07 00 00
f2 0d 00 00 a8 12 45 00 0e 00 00 00 00 07 00 00
98 3a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 58 07 00 00
e2 04 00 00 12 00 00 00 a0 00 00 00 f4 04 00 00
f8 07 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 02
01 00 00 00 6c 12 00 00 10 27 00 00 5b 02 00 00
10 27 00 00 c2 fc ff ff 10 27 00 00 8a e1 ff ff
10 27 00 00 72 3c 00 00 10 27 00 00 b0 09 00 00
10 27 00 00 28 fa ff ff 10 27 00 00 91 07 00 00
10 27 00 00 fb 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 57 81 fc ff


Works fine, but for custom res like 1880x800, 1880x787 and 1600x900?

mvejerslev

I figured it out, used the footer from one of my working files and they come out great. Thanks for the pointer. I use Camera RAW like the other poster. For a stills shooter, its a wet dream to be able to use the usual workflow, only for video.
5D Mark II, PC

Kabuto1138

Hey guys,

Is there a recent MODULE? hast that been changed in the last 24-36 hours for the 5d2?

thanks