Raw video on 5DMK2

Started by olik, May 15, 2013, 08:19:46 AM

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t2scorp

Hi,

I tested the Komputerbay 64GB 1000x card. Shoot three times 1880x840 als long as possible. 2 Times without frame skipping up to 1300 frames and two times with 2-4 skipped frames.
The file size is about 3,7 GB and the camera shuts down.
I alsow tried to make a memory card test but the cam closing live view. I know there is a way to force live view, but I only made a quick test.

I'm shooting an old nightly build from the 8th.. I think.

3pointedit

Raelic, those shots look amazingly moire free! How is that, are you using a filter? And the sharpness after blow up is stunning.
550D on ML-roids

avasarin

Hi everyone,
today it seems that everything is working fine. I reached an acceptable res of 1880x720 without frame dropping.
I just want to post a frame from a RAW clip.


I shot this wit a 50mm 1.4, ISO 800. I was testing a low light situation. I used Neat video too, but this noise still remain. Have you have any chance to test low light/high ISO?
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aaphotog

Quote from: avasarin on May 17, 2013, 08:51:39 AM
Hi everyone,
today it seems that everything is working fine. I reached an acceptable res of 1880x720 without frame dropping.
I just want to post a frame from a RAW clip.


I shot this wit a 50mm 1.4, ISO 800. I was testing a low light situation. I used Neat video too, but this noise still remain. Have you have any chance to test low light/high ISO?
Is that a microphone in the briefcase? If so, I think I may have the same one lol.

avasarin

Quote from: aaphotog on May 17, 2013, 08:53:54 AM
Is that a microphone in the briefcase? If so, I think I may have the same one lol.

hahaha, no is just an old zoom lens(85-205 f/3.8 ), this is the lens case.  :D
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avasarin

And now, as many other users, I found myself fighting with the "API version mismatch" error LOL

The only way to work and test with RAW mode is using not the latest night build and fix.
Will upload some low light test soon.
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PressureFM

Quote from: avasarin on May 17, 2013, 09:10:47 AM
And now, as many other users, I found myself fighting with the "API version mismatch" error LOL

Want to trade with my problem?  :P



Started last night with my 5D Mark II, so shutter probably worn out. I was shooting 1/2000th pictures last weekend of Icelandic horses doing tölt, so that probably explains it ...

Update: Camera has resurrected itself simply by not being used for a week. Weird but can't complain  ;)

Africashot

Quote from: PressureFM on May 17, 2013, 10:05:01 AM
Want to trade with my problem?  :P



Started last night with my 5D Mark II, so shutter probably worn out. I was shooting 1/2000th pictures last weekend of Icelandic horses doing tölt, so that probably explains it ...
Ooops, I think you have just put an end to all my experiments, am going to wait for something more or less stable before moving on, I have already been having a clumsy feeling the last couple of days... what is your shutter count, mine is at 66k and I still need this thing to last!
ML 5D2 & T3i

avasarin

Quote from: PressureFM on May 17, 2013, 10:05:01 AM
Want to trade with my problem?  :P



Started last night with my 5D Mark II, so shutter probably worn out. I was shooting 1/2000th pictures last weekend of Icelandic horses doing tölt, so that probably explains it ...

I think you can find useful this tread, it seems to be a problem not tangled with ML raw mode.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=623494

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http://www.frabiatofilm.com
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olik

So big thanks to a.d. for the new build, here are some of my resolution tests

SanDisk 16GB Extreme Pro 600x
Magic lantern Build 16Mai 17:14

1440x840@25 = until 4GB limit   50,7MB/sec
1644x900@25  = 1683 frames 56,3MB /sec
1880x720@25 1531 frames (regression)   57,3MB/sec
1880x768@25 = 867 frames 58,4MB/ sec
1880x840@25 = 213 frames ca 58,6MB/sec

avasarin

Quote from: olik on May 17, 2013, 10:30:30 AM
Magic lantern Build 16Mai 17:14
Hi olik, did you have any problem converting Raw to DNG files? Something with lv_rec or API mismatch?
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olik

going to test this right away...

olik

I did 3 tests for conversion,

1/50 shutter  - no problem
1/100 shutter - API mismatch
1/25 shutter -API mismatch

could the shutter cause the problem? more testing needed...

a.d.

LV_REC Error
explanation
ML quit before it saves the footer to the RAW file
Workaround
You need to click stop button before the Buffer is full and quit

@Africashot
I suppose you are on windows. you need to use cmd to get the error. (you also can drag and drop with cmd)

btw
- Current Version is only for 5D3
- At commits "0df3652" g3gg0 added RegisterEDmac only for 5D3

andyshon

Quote from: a1ex on May 16, 2013, 06:24:49 PM
API version mismatch is corrupted file (or worse, corrupted memory in the camera). I did not experience this, on what camera are you having trouble, and what changeset? (look in help menu)

5D2 with change set: 9c3ddbf5407

Files I've shot display a range of problems. Some fail in raw2dng with 'not lv_rec' or 'API Mismatch' errors. Some convert to DNG but then fail to open in ACR. A few open but come in bright green or pink. About 10% give me a usable image.

PressureFM

Quote from: Africashot on May 17, 2013, 10:12:55 AM
Ooops, I think you have just put an end to all my experiments, am going to wait for something more or less stable before moving on, I have already been having a clumsy feeling the last couple of days... what is your shutter count, mine is at 66k and I still need this thing to last!

Don't worry, the shutter is mechanical, so it have simply been worn out. Still, I have less than 60,000 actuations but it vary wildly. Canon has an MTF of 150,000 actuations but some fall under and some over.

It should be physically impossible for Magic Lantern to have anything to do with this issue.

Quote from: avasarin on May 17, 2013, 10:28:30 AM
I think you can find useful this tread, it seems to be a problem not tangled with ML raw mode.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=623494

Yeah, already used my Google-fu but have come up short. Going to run by my local Canon technician today and see what he says but my gut feeling is a worn out shutter.

Sorry for derailing the thread!

avasarin

When I got this error I was using 1/48 of shutter speed, so I don't think this is the problem.
Now I'm testing Raw mode with the 15th may night build, and I don't have any problem. Maybe the error is given by some code strings that have been rewritten or insert in the new night build, but I don't have the skills to compile and correct the code(if this is the problem).
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avasarin

Quote from: a.d. on May 17, 2013, 10:53:21 AM
Workaround
You need to click stop button before the Buffer is full and quit

When I got this error I recorded i think 300-400 frames and not at full buffer. And what do you mean with "quit"?
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a.d.

@ a1ex
g3gg0 commited EDMAC Register only for 5D3
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/0df365297913b6ce4de4b97b8d069fe631aabe6e

@avasarin
You could fixed LV_REC with a hexeditor:

After:
01 00 00 00 6c 12 00 00 10 27 00 00 5b 02 00 00
Add The Footer:
10 27 00 00 c2 fc ff ff 10 27 00 00 8a e1 ff ff
10 27 00 00 72 3c 00 00 10 27 00 00 b0 09 00 00
10 27 00 00 28 fa ff ff 10 27 00 00 91 07 00 00
10 27 00 00 fb 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 57 81 fc ff


CrewOfOne

QuoteAfter:
Code: [Select]

01 00 00 00 6c 12 00 00 10 27 00 00 5b 02 00 00

Add The Footer:
Code: [Select]

10 27 00 00 c2 fc ff ff 10 27 00 00 8a e1 ff ff
10 27 00 00 72 3c 00 00 10 27 00 00 b0 09 00 00
10 27 00 00 28 fa ff ff 10 27 00 00 91 07 00 00
10 27 00 00 fb 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 57 81 fc ff

Thanks a.d. for this info! It sounds awesome ... But I tried it, and it doesn't seem to help.

BTW, I did press the stop button on all the files I'm trying to fix, so there is some code very similar to this footer already. Here's what I have:


01 00 00 00 6C 12 00 00 10 27 00 00 5B 02 00 00
10 27 00 00 C2 FC FF FF 10 27 00 00 8A E1 FF FF
10 27 00 00 72 3C 00 00 10 27 00 00 B0 09 00 00
10 27 00 00 28 FA FF FF 10 27 00 00 91 07 00 00
10 27 00 00 FB 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 A8 D1 FB FF

When I replace the last four lines with the code you provided, the file still gets the LV_REC error in RAW2DNG. Anything else we can try??

a.d.

your last line
from
10 27 00 00 FB 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 A8 D1 FB FF
to
10 27 00 00 FB 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 57 81 FC FF
Update
The footer (the end part of the xy.RAW):
52 41 57 4d 58 07 d0 02 20 25 24 00 95 00 00 00
01 00 00 00 12 75 00 00 52 41 57 20 00 00 f3 5b
01 00 00 00 a4 28 3e 08 f4 04 00 00 f8 07 00 00
f2 0d 00 00 a8 12 45 00 0e 00 00 00 00 07 00 00
98 3a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 58 07 00 00
e2 04 00 00 12 00 00 00 a0 00 00 00 f4 04 00 00
f8 07 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 02
01 00 00 00 6c 12 00 00 10 27 00 00 5b 02 00 00
10 27 00 00 c2 fc ff ff 10 27 00 00 8a e1 ff ff
10 27 00 00 72 3c 00 00 10 27 00 00 b0 09 00 00
10 27 00 00 28 fa ff ff 10 27 00 00 91 07 00 00
10 27 00 00 fb 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 57 81 fc ff

avasarin

https://vimeo.com/66393070

Here's a rough editing of some tests I did this morning. Of course the vimeo compression is still degrading the footage, but I've never reached this kind of detail and richness with my 5D.
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olik

If someone could make an updated build for the 5dmk2, it would be very appreciated :-)

andyshon

Quote from: a.d. on May 17, 2013, 01:12:58 PM
your last line
from
10 27 00 00 FB 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 A8 D1 FB FF
to
10 27 00 00 FB 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 57 81 FC FF
Update
The footer (the end part of the xy.RAW):
52 41 57 4d 58 07 d0 02 20 25 24 00 95 00 00 00
01 00 00 00 12 75 00 00 52 41 57 20 00 00 f3 5b
01 00 00 00 a4 28 3e 08 f4 04 00 00 f8 07 00 00
f2 0d 00 00 a8 12 45 00 0e 00 00 00 00 07 00 00
98 3a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 58 07 00 00
e2 04 00 00 12 00 00 00 a0 00 00 00 f4 04 00 00
f8 07 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 02
01 00 00 00 6c 12 00 00 10 27 00 00 5b 02 00 00
10 27 00 00 c2 fc ff ff 10 27 00 00 8a e1 ff ff
10 27 00 00 72 3c 00 00 10 27 00 00 b0 09 00 00
10 27 00 00 28 fa ff ff 10 27 00 00 91 07 00 00
10 27 00 00 fb 19 00 00 10 27 00 00 57 81 fc ff


Replacing the whole 12 line footer as above seems to work as far as raw2dng is concerned. I've tried two of the previously broken files and they now convert and open in ACR. Nice one a.d.!

Not totally out of the woods though. Both of the files I've tried are fine for the first 4 secs or so, from then on every second frame is corrupt.

I'll try a few more.

Would love to test the new build of raw_rec but compiling is beyond me I think. Anyone got a binary for the 5D2?