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NitromanX

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #425 on: May 30, 2013, 07:41:24 AM »
@ Mageye and Haysuess - Thanks for confirming what i thought. So the 'native' output for 5D2 is 1880 pixels wide ...

Does that mean the perfect recording size would be 1880 x 1058 (or something) to make 16:9 ?

I'm guessing this would be possible at 12 bit if 14 bit proves to be too high for the 5D2 hardware ?

Just to recap ... the 5D2 is limited to 65mb/s by the hardware not just by the CF card speeds ?

Is 14 bit 25fps 1880 x 1058 likely to be achieved with Magic Lantern sometime soon ? Or am i gonna need to upgrade to the 5D3  ? :(

This Magic Lantern Raw Recording is all quite incredible ... It breathes new life into my 5D2 and somewhat over shadows yesterday's news for Canon 1DC owners of 25fps at 4K. I'm guessing my 5D2 will be almost as good a quality if it eventually shoots raw at 14 bit 1080p 25fps.  ;D

http://www.canonrumors.com/2013/05/feature-upgrade-for-the-eos-1d-c/


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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #426 on: May 30, 2013, 09:44:35 AM »
Hi there!

Is somebody trying to shoot with an EVF or monitor? I'm having a little problem, the white frame is all pushed to the link side of the screen. Nothing too bad, but I don't know if there's a way to have it right in the center of the screen.

And something else: I found out that most of the time there's is too much sharpness in the edges, and it's something weird. I don't think it can depends on a picture style, and I tried to play with sharpness in Camera raw, but it's like a sort of micro-blocking sharpness. Something I found useful is using a fast blur of about 0,5. It's funny that before RAW video we where always using unsharpening mask, and now the sharpness is too much!

Do you think it's caused by the resolution(1720x732 image on an 27" iMac screen?)
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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #427 on: May 30, 2013, 08:12:20 PM »
Yes, 1880 x 1058 would be 16:9. I would actually prefer to record 1880x1080 (which I've been doing) for a little more latitude in editing.

I can get about 12 seconds at 1880x1080 at 24fps. With 10 or 12-bit and some more optimizations, I can see 1880x1080 at 24fps being available for perpetual recording, but yes, the 5D Mark II is limited to around 65MB/sec by hardware, not CF speeds.

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #428 on: May 30, 2013, 08:35:25 PM »
Yes, 1880 x 1058 would be 16:9. I would actually prefer to record 1880x1080 (which I've been doing) for a little more latitude in editing.

I can get about 12 seconds at 1880x1080 at 24fps. With 10 or 12-bit and some more optimizations, I can see 1880x1080 at 24fps being available for perpetual recording, but yes, the 5D Mark II is limited to around 65MB/sec by hardware, not CF speeds.

How do you record with 10 or 12 bit with the 5DMII?
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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #429 on: May 30, 2013, 09:32:22 PM »
How do you record with 10 or 12 bit with the 5DMII?

You can't atm.... It's still in development. More info here.... http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5601.0

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #430 on: May 31, 2013, 09:51:57 AM »
The 5D Mark II can't do 1920 because of hardware limitations. Even the 1920 available with the stock firmware and h264 is upscaled from 1880, as that is what gets output in RAW form.
Thx for this information... didn't know this so far.
Hopefully my Lexar 1000x card will arrive today. I want to shoot some green screen tests with - let's say "not perfect green screen enviroment" and hope it will increase the quality to key it better.

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #431 on: May 31, 2013, 05:29:17 PM »
Anyone notice (from May 28th build) when shooting with no magnification/crop a black bar on the right side of their raw/dng files? This may be a known issue, but I seem to recall this in very early builds only .. and thought it was fixed after (could be wrong). I was using the 2.35:1 option at 1880 horizontal. Card used is Sandisk extreme Pro (90MBs) 32gb. I do not get the bar oddly enough when I go into the crop/magnified zoom shooting for raw recording. Kind of frustrating being the shots zoomed in do not have this so switching  between shots from the two is noticeable.

Another item I found may not be known... something intriguing...I happened to try a macro lens (100mm 2.8) in a shot with magnification/crop on and placed the camera on a table where I found something rather odd. Is our video taken in an even odd pixel method (almost like interlaced)? The video shifts up and down every other frame (even and odd) when focusing on close objects (ex the table top in this case)... this was with the camera sitting on a static object. I probably would not have noticed had I not tried to shoot something so close to the lens.

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #432 on: May 31, 2013, 10:25:27 PM »
The 5D Mark II can't do 1920 because of hardware limitations. Even the 1920 available with the stock firmware and h264 is upscaled from 1880, as that is what gets output in RAW form.

Just to confirm - H264 on 5D2 is not true 1920?

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #433 on: May 31, 2013, 11:18:13 PM »
It is upscaled from 1880, so no, it is not.

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #434 on: May 31, 2013, 11:32:45 PM »
I did a raw video, and after returning to normal shoot ( I mean photography ), I had hot pixel..

Is it normal ?
I'm sorry its off topic and I don't speak very well in english.

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #435 on: June 01, 2013, 12:50:03 AM »
For anyone who is bored. I wanted to see if longer 'demonstration' videos could be done. 5DMKII over 2 minutes (joined RAW files with 'cat' command from the terminal on Mac). Also the sound was synced using a 4channel modified ZoomH2 recorder using traditional clapper board. ;D

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #436 on: June 01, 2013, 08:52:38 AM »
Nice modified monotron ! The Cv is used for the midi sequence ? Can you use the Cv input for other control ( lfo? filter ? )
Someone can help me ?

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #437 on: June 01, 2013, 09:15:13 AM »
For anyone who is bored. I wanted to see if longer 'demonstration' videos could be done. 5DMKII over 2 minutes (joined RAW files with 'cat' command from the terminal on Mac). Also the sound was synced using a 4channel modified ZoomH2 recorder using traditional clapper board. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yuqzuPALsHg

Can you simply explain what you have done? Because I upgraded to the 31st may build and I did a 5Gb long video(split in two), but now I'm not able to join them. And when I try to convert the RAW file it gives me an error!
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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #438 on: June 01, 2013, 09:48:59 AM »
Can you simply explain what you have done? Because I upgraded to the 31st may build and I did a 5Gb long video(split in two), but now I'm not able to join them. And when I try to convert the RAW file it gives me an error!
I am using Mac OS X and can successfully join RAW files and convert to DNG.

Are you on Mac as well?

avasarin

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #439 on: June 01, 2013, 09:56:55 AM »
I am using Mac OS X and can successfully join RAW files and convert to DNG.

Are you on Mac as well?

Yes, I'm on Mac.
I don't understand the workflow behind this. You join the two pieces and the it becomes a single raw file and you convert in in raw2dng? If yes, how do you do it? ::)
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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #440 on: June 01, 2013, 11:30:42 AM »
test of A.D. build and Pravdomil rec_module. Glad with the results, especially with the Pravdomil module, good work pals.
I think the 5D2 can fight with the MarkIII.  :)
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mageye

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #441 on: June 01, 2013, 04:24:49 PM »
So many questions ...

OK

@avasarin go to this post and everything you need to do the bigger video files is there. Essentially to join the separate files you use the 'cat' command from terminal. Don't doubt it it just works! However the version of raw2dng that was suggested didn't work for some reason? (I am on OSX10.8.3) I used the raw2dng.app (GUI) v0.50 rather than the v0.10.

go here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5655.0

@seanturco

As for questions relating to control voltages and LFO, I am not so sure this is the place for it ;). But I will let you know that the modification allows you to switch between filter and pitch control. As of yet there is no way of synchronising (or CV triggering) the LFO. That's a shame!

Anyway thanks ;D


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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #442 on: June 01, 2013, 11:12:52 PM »

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #443 on: June 02, 2013, 06:59:43 AM »
Yes, I'm on Mac.
I don't understand the workflow behind this. You join the two pieces and the it becomes a single raw file and you convert in in raw2dng? If yes, how do you do it? ::)
Are you successfully joining the files?

As in:

cat M0000001.RAW M0000001.RAW002 > Output.RAW

Then drag Output.RAW into raw2dng.

avasarin

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #444 on: June 02, 2013, 12:48:42 PM »
Yes, now I can join the files, but it gives me the "lv_rec..." error, and I don't have the time to compile with an hex editor the files.  8)
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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #445 on: June 02, 2013, 02:20:21 PM »
Yes, now I can join the files, but it gives me the "lv_rec..." error, and I don't have the time to compile with an hex editor the files.  8)

I am assuming that you are getting the 'Error: This ain't a lv_rec RAW file' error.

I get this if I use the raw2dng.app.0.10. If I use the raw2dng.app.0.5 it will work. Try it. ;)
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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #446 on: June 02, 2013, 06:11:47 PM »
What's the best resolution capable with a 32gb sandisk 600x CF on the mark ii?

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #447 on: June 02, 2013, 07:33:18 PM »
I finally managed to get my first real world project done in RAW (just in time cause my dogs were getting really tired of me following them around with the camera ever since the silent pics RAW burst mode came out) thanks to all the Developers, donation is on the way as soon as we get the paycheck!
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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #448 on: June 02, 2013, 08:10:38 PM »
I finally managed to get my first real world project done in RAW (just in time cause my dogs were getting really tired of me following them around with the camera ever since the silent pics RAW burst mode came out) thanks to all the Developers, donation is on the way as soon as we get the paycheck!

Horray! A video that is of something other than moss ;) This is stunning dude well done. As is the rest of your work! What res did you  shoot this with by the way? Nice to see you don't have such a massive deal with moire and aliasing with this. Yeah it's there in places but the water and sand for example I would expect to be horrific!

Ps. You ever need a hand shooting dream villas - you got my number right? ;)

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Re: Raw video on 5DMK2
« Reply #449 on: June 03, 2013, 05:09:47 AM »
Hi everyone.

Sorry i can't embed this video as I'm writing this message from my phone.
So if you don't mind , I'd like to have your opinion about this video i shot in Manhattan:
https://vimeo.com/m/67404752

I'm amazed by all the videos i see from others, with no visible aliasing issue, while i do have loads of them.
Is there anything in the settings I'm having wrong?

Thank you very much.