Author Topic: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?  (Read 26342 times)

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Hi All,

I recently got to know that Canon 5D Mark III can record DNG videos (RAW videos).

Could anyone please let me know if 550D hardware is capable of recording DNG videos. I understand that the resolution might not be anywhere close to 4K (assuming it might however be able to capture at least 2.5 K?) however the quality of images might get better with DNG as it gives us complete control over picture to grade in post production.

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2013, 11:58:59 PM »
+1, I associate to this question, and waiting for answer ! It is a great achievement 24fps 1080p RAW, but on a 5DMKiii ... a camera that only the body costs up as a leg and an eye... everyone is near to buy, instead, a natively raw-enabled video-cam ! The real achievement, the real breakthrough, the real bargain, the real stunning, the real amazing, the real useful, the real thing... is to port all this to a camera like 550D !  8)
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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2013, 12:16:47 AM »
550D is so old at the moment... yes the stuff will port but don't expect much. 600D is already ported.

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(assuming it might however be able to capture at least 2.5 K?)
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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2013, 12:40:39 AM »
+1, I associate to this question, and waiting for answer ! It is a great achievement 24fps 1080p RAW, but on a 5DMKiii ... a camera that only the body costs up as a leg and an eye... everyone is near to buy, instead, a natively raw-enabled video-cam ! The real achievement, the real breakthrough, the real bargain, the real stunning, the real amazing, the real useful, the real thing... is to port all this to a camera like 550D !  8)

550D is so old at the moment... yes the stuff will port but don't expect much. 600D is already ported.
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Hi,

Thank you for answering & adding your thoughts :)

Since the possibility of any budget conscious user thinking about upgrading the camera to 600D or above is not very feasible, would it be possible to have the 550D ported instead? :)

It would certainly open a new horizon for many short-movie makers around the world.

Also, regarding the resolution, what could we expect as I am not sure if 2.5 K is possible (was hoping that it might however) :)

Thanks once again!

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2013, 12:47:11 AM »
"stop working on 600D and work on 550D instead"... what?!

Run the card benchmarks and we'll tell you what resolution you can get. Probably 800x600 or so.

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2013, 01:17:51 AM »
Lol, probably 800x480 or 400 and fio write file on this camera can do > 4gb? Exfat didn't even exist?

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2013, 01:23:04 AM »
I wonder what we can get from 500D, that one is really interesting for studying the history of Canon's LiveView. The only camera with 20fps video, hehe

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2013, 01:34:47 AM »
Actually interesting because it may have less things running... Just wonder how much memory it has.


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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2013, 06:38:20 AM »
Yeah if you guys can't even get raw video enabled on the Canon EOS 650, the whole thing's a bust.



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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2013, 08:01:43 AM »
50D might also be a good option, since it uses CF cards. Anyone ran benchmarks on it?

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2013, 08:49:21 AM »



EOS 550D 18-55mm IS - 50mm F/1.8

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2013, 08:59:16 AM »
At 14MB/s... you can hope for 720x480

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2013, 09:42:48 AM »
At 14MB/s... you can hope for 720x480

what about 4K 1fps RAW with manual shutter speed ? :)
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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2013, 12:14:51 PM »
Fellow 550D user here, thought I'd run and add my benchmark results.






Having followed the recent developments I'm keen to see what could be possible with the 550D, should a port be forthcoming. How much further would a 95MB/s card push the possibilities? Or is the 550D itself going to be the limiting factor here?

Whatever, many thanks to all the guys at Magic Lantern for what you've achieved, thus far!


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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2013, 01:59:15 PM »
Having followed the recent developments I'm keen to see what could be possible with the 550D, should a port be forthcoming. How much further would a 95MB/s card push the possibilities? Or is the 550D itself going to be the limiting factor here?

I was going to buy a 95MB/s card to see what 550D could spit out. But on your benchmark of a 45MB/s card it couldn't even reach half that. In fact, I  got near same results on a class 6 card.


On a different note, what is better;
4:2:0 at 1920x1080
or
4:4:4 at 960x540

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2013, 02:08:35 PM »
At 14MB/s... you can hope for 720x480

Hi All,

Thank you for your feedback/thoughts.

I am not familiar with technical aspects of these cameras.

I only thought that if a camera has video capturing ability and also has the ability to capture RAW (CR2) images, then it might as well be possible to port them to capture RAW video!

I am not quite sure about the probability however as I am only an end user. Could anyone let me know if this is possible? :)

Also, does 720X480 mean that the resolution is no where close to 1920X1080 or does it affect the quality if we digitally manipulate the resolution during video processing workflow. I did not understand this concept.

I use a 16GB 30MB/s Class 10 card. How much resolution can I expect (if it would be possible to capture RAW/DNG video). As we would be capturing DNGs I believe we would not be able to record voice (please correct me if I am wrong). Or is that too possible?

Thanks for answering :)

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2013, 05:05:32 PM »
Yeah if you guys can't even get raw video enabled on the Canon EOS 650, the whole thing's a bust.

[img*]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Canon_EOS_650.jpg/797px-Canon_EOS_650.jpg[/img]

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2013, 05:14:06 PM »
I have ML running on my EOS 650 just fine

Hi,

Does the same firmware/upgrade work for Canon EOS 550D too?

How do I perform a benchmark test as discussed by fellow users here? I have never tried that procedure until now :)

Also, please help me understand whether memory card plays a crucial role or whether it is with the hardware of the camera that determines whether it can capture RAW video :)

Thank you for all your help/feedback/support.

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2013, 05:15:28 PM »
We can totally get raw on the EOS 650... just spin the film real fast... its the rawest raw that ever existed.

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2013, 05:40:50 PM »
It looks like a waste of time trying to get RAW video on a 550D.
But there are breathtaking "non RAW 550D videos" out there. :-)

My hope is silent pics will be possible one day with a better resolution.

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2013, 07:29:11 PM »
It looks like a waste of time trying to get RAW video on a 550D.

Even at SD resolution, it's not a waste of time... on the contrary !
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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2013, 09:31:03 PM »
We can totally get raw on the EOS 650... just spin the film real fast... its the rawest raw that ever existed.

Fun fact. The 5d Mkiii was announced on the 25th anniversary of the Eos 650.

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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2013, 05:16:40 AM »
Even at SD resolution, it's not a waste of time... on the contrary !
AGREE!!! 100% 14bit RAW Video is what matters even at SD.
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Re: Is it possible to have RAW video recording abilities on 550D?
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2013, 10:32:27 AM »
Another question could be if the YUV conversion could be surpassed and then saved as compressed RGB in mov(or some other/better codec)? Wouldn't that give a wider color range? I mean on cameras with SD cards only.