Author Topic: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics! (silent.mo)  (Read 284107 times)

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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #150 on: April 29, 2013, 07:23:47 PM »
Trees details is bad :( It is not improvement over stock H.264 video.

Remenber this is encoded 2 times.. First to h264 from premiere, then Vimeo will compress it again.

720 DNG´s looks better than stock h264 at 1080p IMHO
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #151 on: April 29, 2013, 07:30:09 PM »
Could you upload some DNG sample where the girl is?

Yeah sure: (including the famous pink cast)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxHiL_qPbYP0QzlPODJtSkJSWG8/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #152 on: April 29, 2013, 08:16:45 PM »
How do you do the 720p in the MK II?

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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #153 on: April 29, 2013, 08:18:48 PM »
Double-checked the black and white levels, still can't find any pink cast. White balance on the shoulder.


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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #154 on: April 29, 2013, 08:25:41 PM »
Is it possible to try this out on 6d or only 5d3/2 in current nightly build?
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #155 on: April 29, 2013, 08:26:19 PM »
Just got my 5d2 to get 51 frames when taking out the raw+jpeg still function.

I'm gonna name my first to Kids after Magic Lantern programers starting with Alex.

This is taking the internet by storm.

Alex, put up again the donating link!!!

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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #156 on: April 29, 2013, 08:30:34 PM »
This is awesome guys, well done!

A few people have talked about using 1000x CF cards for this, will anything like this be possible on SD cards?
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #157 on: April 29, 2013, 08:38:01 PM »
A few people have talked about using 1000x CF cards for this, will anything like this be possible on SD cards?
CF (5D2, 5D3, 7D) - up to 150 mb/s
SD UHS-I (6D, 650D, 700D) - up to 90 mb/s
SD Class 10 (550D, 600D, 60D) - up to 22 mb/s

Required badwitch 2.4 mb * 25 = 60 mb/s, so it seems that new cameras will handle this speeds... but 1% mention fragmenting which affects speed, so I'm unsure about UHS-I
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #158 on: April 29, 2013, 08:44:05 PM »
CF (5D2, 5D3, 7D) - up to 150 mb/s
SD UHS-I (6D, 650D, 700D) - up to 90 mb/s
SD Class 10 (550D, 600D, 60D) - up to 22 mb/s

Required badwitch 2.4 mb * 25 = 60 mb/s, so it seems that new cameras will handle this speeds... but 1% mention fragmenting which affects speed, so I'm unsure about UHS-I

The 5d3 SD slot maxes out on 133x afaik. Don't forget that people. That's why i bought the CF instead.

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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #159 on: April 29, 2013, 08:45:49 PM »
Hi, 1% mentioned mjpeg, do you think that it could theoretically be possible to compress the DNG stream to get mjpeg video in camera? Even on SD cards like Sandisk Extreme? If you could make it output 2k mjpeg that would be more exciting to me personally than raw. I don't even have to tell you how great you guys are, that's a well known fact!

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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #160 on: April 29, 2013, 08:47:24 PM »
Double-checked the black and white levels, still can't find any pink cast. White balance on the shoulder.



thats right, when you manually set the correct white ballance there is no pink cast.
 - Its a metadata ting in the DNG file. The picture data in the DNG file is fine.

Adobe Lightroom see this:
1, 0 Sec exposure (wrong, think it was 1/60)
f/1,0 (Wrong, was 1,4)
Temp 6050  (wrong)
Tint = +78  (wrong, this is where the pink color is comming from)
Iso and focal lenght are missing.
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #161 on: April 29, 2013, 08:53:33 PM »
Again : all exif data is a placeholder. Ignore it
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #162 on: April 29, 2013, 08:58:43 PM »
Again : all exif data is a placeholder. Ignore it

Yeahhh i know.. its no problem  :D
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #163 on: April 29, 2013, 09:19:26 PM »
What a great age we live in! It´s with the help of amazing people like the people we have here that "older" cameras are getting a new life span. Hopefully we´ll see RAW 24p video from the MarkII....or even uncompressed HDMI.

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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #164 on: April 29, 2013, 10:16:47 PM »
Can anyone provide a link with instructions on how to compile one of the nightly builds(with a mac) so that I can install on my 5d3?

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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #165 on: April 29, 2013, 10:45:14 PM »
awesome!
here is a dng with zoom *5 with the VAF-5D2b Optical Anti-Aliasing Filter on the 5D MII.
and one without the filter.
the lens: samyang 85mm 1:1,4 on aperture 4.

there is a little bit less aliasing with the anti-aliasing filter (you can see it on the deadcat)
the text is a little bit blurry but less aliasing.

besides: i often get corrupt files. and i always have to boot twice (take out the battery...)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3447700/dngtest_aafilter.DNG
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3447700/dngtest_withoutaafilter.DNG
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #166 on: April 29, 2013, 10:56:03 PM »
The VAF filter is too strong for zoom in (it's for plain 1080p).

corrupted files with today's nightly? post an example.

always have to boot twice == did not read the manual?

http://magiclantern.fm/bestpractices

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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #167 on: April 29, 2013, 11:07:46 PM »
The VAF filter is too strong for zoom in (it's for plain 1080p).
yey - i thought of this.

corrupted files with today's nightly? post an example.
here we go: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3447700/05090128.DNG
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #168 on: April 29, 2013, 11:16:02 PM »
Uh... that looks like one frame was saved twice.

Was this in end trigger mode?

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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #169 on: April 29, 2013, 11:21:07 PM »
Uh... that looks like one frame was saved twice.

Was this in end trigger mode?

end trigger mode?
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #170 on: April 29, 2013, 11:25:07 PM »
here are the NONE ZOOMED DNGs with and without the AA filter

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3447700/05090013withoutAA.DNG

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3447700/05090022withAA.DNG

i´ll make a few motion tests - but looks like the aa filter isn´t needed anymore?
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #171 on: April 29, 2013, 11:29:15 PM »
Can you make them at the same focal length and framing?

Aliasing is clearly visible on the non-AA shot.

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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #172 on: April 29, 2013, 11:36:34 PM »
Can you make them at the same focal length and framing?

no - sorry, focal length is changing with the filter attached.
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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #173 on: April 29, 2013, 11:58:37 PM »
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Is it possible to try this out on 6d or only 5d3/2 in current nightly build?

Yup, look in the 6D thread.

I just shot a bunch, will have to look at them. 720P-24fps override = 53 frames.
1080P or zoom modes = like 27-29 frames.

The "1080P" stretches to 2k easily... bet the 720P will stretch to 1080P. Color looks way better than H264.

600D only shot like 16 frames... the first chunk is only 60MB... the next chunk is the big chunk. I think it needs to allocate the largest chunk available on older cameras.

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Re: 14bit RAW DNG silent pics!
« Reply #174 on: April 30, 2013, 12:09:50 AM »
This is pretty cool it's like when I first got my super 8 camera and only shot for seconds @ a time. How are people batch processing the raw files. I tried to open up about 400 frames in after effects and got tired of clicking ok on the raw data window.
Thx A1ex and company this is pretty great!
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