Canon 650D [OLD]

[Lucas_W]

Go ahead. 

[lordgnagey]

Here's an early test. It's a 1600 x 540 3:1 (if memory serves) and sorry it got downsampled to 720p (I hate QuickTime presets). Ill have a more interesting full 1080p stream later tonight. Plus plenty of reference DNGs.

As a reference this is California sunrise at around 7:30am... Very bright but you can see the details both inside and outside.

Edit: I promise the next upload won't be as ugly.

[xanta]

Here's an early test. It's a 1600 x 540 3:1 (if memory serves) and sorry it got downsampled to 720p (I hate QuickTime presets). Ill have a more interesting full 1080p stream later tonight. Plus plenty of reference DNGs.

As a reference this is California sunrise at around 7:30am... Very bright but you can see the details both inside and outside.

Edit: I promise the next upload won't be as ugly.

that sequence seems fine despite the moire~~
looking forward to seeing your next one, IF the 650D can do a real 1080P RAW  that would be fantastic~

[nanomad]

You can get rid of the moire by using raw_rec with the 5X zoom in movie mode, which basically gives you the good old "crop zoom mode" of the 600D

[Aborgh]

Here's an early test. It's a 1600 x 540 3:1 (if memory serves) and sorry it got downsampled to 720p (I hate QuickTime presets). Ill have a more interesting full 1080p stream later tonight. Plus plenty of reference DNGs.

As a reference this is California sunrise at around 7:30am... Very bright but you can see the details both inside and outside.

Edit: I promise the next upload won't be as ugly.

How do you change the resolution on raw video?

[kostasra]

Sorry but I think I'm foolish because I can't pass the program to camera....

xaxa

[xanta]

How do you change the resolution on raw video?

Q button is for further settings of the feature, try it 

[Aborgh]

Q button is for further settings of the feature, try it

When I go in silent picture I can only choose Simple , burst , burst en trigger , best shots and slit-scan. Am I missing something here?

[dngrhm]

When I go in silent picture I can only choose Simple , burst , burst en trigger , best shots and slit-scan. Am I missing something here?

Raw is a completely separate module.  You need a build with the raw_rec module.  Either compile the source yourself or use a satriani build.  (This is alpha territory. If you can't live with a bricked camera, don't do it.  If you do and experience a lockup where your camera or ML don't respond, remove your battery immediately to stop all processes and prevent your camera from overheating)

Once you have the correct ML installed on the SD card.  Open the ML menu and there should be a new "M" menu.  Select load modules under the "M" menu.  Raw rec will then appear under video.

[Aborgh]

Raw is a completely separate module.  You need a build with the raw_rec module.  Either compile the source yourself or use a satriani build.  (This is alpha territory. If you can't live with a bricked camera, don't do it.  If you do and experience a lockup where your camera or ML don't respond, remove your battery immediately to stop all processes and prevent your camera from overheating)

Once you have the correct ML installed on the SD card.  Open the ML menu and there should be a new "M" menu.  Select load modules under the "M" menu.  Raw rec will then appear under video.

Thanks man it works! But how to open the files in a computer? Do you know any converting software?

Nevermind! Found a whole thread about this

[33black]

So does anyone out there have a comparison of the standard T4i HD video, versus the RAW video?

I'm an actor, still learning more about the technical side of the business, going to try and do some of my own shorts at some point, so don't flame me for this question.  I learn better visually instead of reading about luminance values and raw data.

Now that someone has made the very beginning version of it available on the T4i, I am just curious what that looks like.  I get that the idea is that it's the raw data from the sensor, and there is no compression or processing of WB or anything from the camera, but what sort of image will that get vs the standard.

Great work to everyone.  If I was still back in high school years ago cracking away at ansi C, I'd try and pitch in, but I've mostly forgotten.

Except for printf().

[Aborgh]

Here's an early test. It's a 1600 x 540 3:1 (if memory serves) and sorry it got downsampled to 720p (I hate QuickTime presets). Ill have a more interesting full 1080p stream later tonight. Plus plenty of reference DNGs.

As a reference this is California sunrise at around 7:30am... Very bright but you can see the details both inside and outside.

Edit: I promise the next upload won't be as ugly.

How did you get rid of the red lines?

[Gorilla]

I get that the idea is that it's the raw data from the sensor, and there is no compression or processing of WB or anything from the camera, but what sort of image will that get vs the standard.

Someone else will be able to give a better answer than this, but basically the raw video would probably give you an image that is sharper, contains very little to no noise reduction, has less banding, and has a greater dynamic range.

[lordgnagey]

How do you change the resolution on raw video?

 By adjusting the raw_rec module. There is a section to select aspect ratio and another for choosing horizontal resolution.

[red5446]

if useful i have some crash logs:
currently using the build of satriani.
works ok. but be careful i got a semibrick or err (i dont remember what number i just pull of the battery and all is allright)

if i use 24fps over ride i can obtain 600+ frames of 1280x720. That´s 3x times what i get the normal way. But it crashes if i choose other any option than optimized for low light.

1crash

ASSERT: 0
at ./Capture/Capture.c:509, task EventMgr
lv:0 mode:3
Magic Lantern version : v2.3.NEXT.2013May28.650D101
Mercurial changeset   : 87906563dde1 (unified) tip
Built on 2013-05-28 11:44:35 by root@magiclantern-VirtualBox.
Free Memory  : 106K + 3457K

2. crashes

ASSERT: !IS_ERROR(semErr)
at ./EekoApp/Color/WB/LV/LvWbAlgorWrap.c:522, task CLR_CALC
lv:1 mode:3
Magic Lantern version : v2.3.NEXT.2013May28.650D101
Mercurial changeset   : 87906563dde1 (unified) tip
Built on 2013-05-28 11:44:35 by root@magiclantern-VirtualBox.
Free Memory  : 106K + 3433K

2 crashes

ASSERT: !IS_ERROR(semErr)
at ./EekoApp/Color/WB/LV/LvWbAlgorWrap.c:522, task CLR_CALC
lv:0 mode:3
Magic Lantern version : v2.3.NEXT.2013May28.650D101
Mercurial changeset   : 87906563dde1 (unified) tip
Built on 2013-05-28 11:44:35 by root@magiclantern-VirtualBox.
Free Memory  : 106K + 3464K

assert log for all crashes:

ML ASSERT:
PROP_LEN(206000a) correct:4 called:18
at ../../src/property.c:308 (prop_request_change), task GuiMainTask
lv:1 mode:3


Magic Lantern version : v2.3.NEXT.2013May28.650D101
Mercurial changeset   : 87906563dde1 (unified) tip
Built on 2013-05-28 11:44:35 by root@magiclantern-VirtualBox.
Free Memory  : 106K + 3463K

LOG000.LOG

Wed May 29 04:47:30 2013
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K301 ICU Firmware Version 1.0.1 ( 5.5.9 )
      1:    33.271 [STARTUP]
ICU Release DateTime 2012.05.24 17:48:32
      2:    35.259 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 0)
      3:    35.286 [STARTUP] startupEntry
      4:    35.367 [PROPAD] PROPAD_CreateFROMPropertyHandle DRAMAddr 0x42000000
      5:    36.066 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x10000
      6:    46.584 [STARTUP] InitializeIntercom
      7:    46.839 [STARTUP] InitializeIntercom End(0x0)
      8:    95.605 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
      9:    96.266 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x340000
     10:   125.867 [PROPAD] SerialFlash Packages!! 0x7
     11:   125.963 [STARTUP] startupPropAdminMain : End
     12:   126.026 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 1)
     13:   126.055 [STARTUP] startupPrepareProperty
     14:   127.855 [SEQ] seqEventDispatch (Startup, 2)
     15:   128.284 [RSC] hMemoryQueue (0x980010) hStorageQueue (0x9A0012)
     16:   129.522 [RSC] ### LIST 6 0 6 ###
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     18:   143.279 [EM] emLockControl (TYPE_JOBSTATE = 0x0)
     19:   145.193 [JOB] InitializeInnerDevelopJobClass (ID = 5592, Num = 16)
     20:   145.224 [JOB] InitializeHDRShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
     21:   145.249 [JOB] InitializeHDRSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 32 )
     22:   145.273 [JOB] InitializeGISShootJobClass ( Num = 12 )
     23:   145.300 [JOB] InitializeGISSaveAndEndJobClass ( Num = 26, 32 )
     24:   147.713 [RTC] ChangePropertyCBR 0x0, 0x0
     25:   148.106 [RTC] RTC_Permit 0x20
     26:   149.149 [RTC] InitializeRTCDriver 0x20, 0xff1306dc
     27:   149.898 [DOS]threshold 0x37a 0x35c
     28:   154.482 [SND] Seq LPC fin
     29:   154.845 [SHTRD] [MNAV] MEMNAVI_Initialize
     30:   155.132 [SHTRD] [MNAV] MEMNAVI_SetMemoryMap: 1
     31:   157.095 [ENG] [ENGIO](Addr:0x41400000, Data:0x   44000)
     32:   160.928 [ENAV] EEKO_NAVI_Initialize[START]
     33:   161.255 [ENAV] EekoNavi_InitializeEekoSystem
     34:   161.313 [ENAV] EEKO_NAVI_Initialize[FINISH]
     35:   194.267 [ENAV] Eeko Initialized:Async
     36:   194.343 [SHTP] spsInit
     37:   211.330 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     38:   211.365 [MRK] MRK_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     39:   211.433 [FM] FM_RegisterSpaceNotifyCallback
     40:   211.598 [TERMINATE] SHUTDOWN init comp
     41:   211.652 [TERMINATE] Abort init comp
     42:   214.682 [MC] PROP_GUI_STATE 0
     43:   214.935 [MC] JobState 0
     44:   215.720 [MC] PROP_VARIANGLE_GUICTRL : Enable
     45:   215.780 [MC] [MC] PROP_HEADPHONE_VOLUME_VALUE : 0
     46:   215.906 [MC] [MC] PROP_MOVIE_PLAY_VOLUME : 9
     47:   216.873 [MC] regist master CardCover
     48:   557.153 [SD] sdSendOCR: 1.8V Signaling Card
     49:   558.375 [SD] sdSendOCR: Hi-Capacity Card
     50:   566.787 [SD] Set 1.8V Signaling
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   42:   214.682 [MC] PROP_GUI_STATE 0
     43:   214.935 [MC] JobState 0
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Benchmarks with a sandisk 45MB/s


Please anyone with a 95MB/s make a benchmark a post it, will be helpful to see what buffer are better and if by any chance there is at least 10MB more of performance over a 45MBs

[lordgnagey]

How did you get rid of the red lines?

Color and Luminance noise reduction in photoshop. But they do appear to degrade the image when turned up too high. In the future uploads this apparition will probably be more pronounced, but only to retain detail in the resulting video.

[papkee]

I've got an extreme pro 95mb/s. I'll have to play around with this today.

Downloading a build now.

[papkee]

Okay, videos are processing now.

So far with a SanDisk Extreme Pro 16gb 95mb/s card the max I've been able to use RAW-wise has been 1440 at 2.35:1 with sound off. Anything higher uses up the buffer and recording stops within 100 frames. So overall not bad. If we can ever figure out how to downsample to 10bit in-camera we may have some very usable footage soon.

Will be posting test videos later today.

[lordgnagey]

if useful i have some crash logs:
currently using the build of satriani.
works ok. but be careful i got a semibrick or err (i dont remember what number i just pull of the battery and all is allright)

if i use 24fps over ride i can obtain 600+ frames of 1280x720. That´s 3x times what i get the normal way. But it crashes if i choose other any option than optimized for low light.

1crash2. crashes2 crashes
assert log for all crashes:
LOG000.LOG
Benchmarks with a sandisk 45MB/s


Please anyone with a 95MB/s make a benchmark a post it, will be helpful to see what buffer are better and if by any chance there is at least 10MB more of performance over a 45MBs

UHS-I only appears to be useful when UHS is usable by the cardbus...




I'm only getting 37.9MB/s MAX! I've tried this with and without Global Draw enabled and I get the same result.
  It literally hits a cieling. what card do you use? Is it this one:

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Pro-SDHC-SDSDXP1-032G/dp/B004JJQN8G/ref=pd_sim_pc_1

[Walter Schulz]

I'm only getting 37.9MB/s MAX! I've tried this with and without Global Draw enabled and I get the same result.
  It literally hits a cieling.

Benchmark results seem to differ in photo and video mode ...
Sandisk 95 MByte/s, 8 GByte
I use this build:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/sh/q1zrrlmy03psr2y/NoRx3aSzTl/ML_N_28.05.2013.zip



10 MByte/s more would be fine, but it seems the controller is the bottleneck.
Ciao, Walter

[red5446]

Benchmark results seem to differ in photo and video mode ...
Sandisk 95 MByte/s, 8 GByte
I use this build:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/sh/q1zrrlmy03psr2y/NoRx3aSzTl/ML_N_28.05.2013.zip



10 MByte/s more would be fine, but it seems the controller is the bottleneck.
Ciao, Walter

looks like with a t4i it´s best to get a 45MB/s  card because with a 95MB/s you don´t get better performance at all.
anyways it will be cool to know if t5i has the same limitation.
i think at least 10MB/s more will get the job done for 1280x720

[lordgnagey]

looks like with a t4i it´s best to get a 45MB/s  card because with a 95MB/s you don´t get better performance at all.
anyways it will be cool to know if t5i has the same limitation.
i think at least 10MB/s more will get the job done for 1280x720

I'm sorry my first response was off, I misread your post. You're right, buying a UHS-I 95MB/s card is pointless if you are only using it on the T4i...

HOWEVER future UHS-I compliant devices will more than likely take advantage of the more than double speed increase from the 45 to the 95 cards. The prices aren't that different, so I say why not future proof your cards?

[MarlonSenanayake]

i have this one 2013/05/10 hope u looking for this


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0TZGuUZQ-_ZX2VPdXNvY2dLV2s/edit?usp=sharing

[lordgnagey]

I had to compress it pretty heavily to get it to upload, but the ProRes 422 file is about 1 gig. I've put the ProRes file on Dropbox and it should be able to view later, I'll update this post with the link when finished.

I'm going to wait until we figure out whether or not the color apparition can be dealt with in camera before I do too much more with RAW video.

[xanta]

I had to compress it pretty heavily to get it to upload, but the ProRes 422 file is about 1 gig. I've put the ProRes file on Dropbox and it should be able to view later, I'll update this post with the link when finished.

I'm going to wait until we figure out whether or not the color apparition can be dealt with in camera before I do too much more with RAW video.

That one was great! i wonder what SDcard you used for this, and is there any frame skipped?
i have my own 650D tested but the res must be set to 1280*720 so that it will not skip frames too soon

another problem i have now is the strange red and blue dots on the picture as i posted before