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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #825 on: April 06, 2013, 02:10:44 AM »
A prosumer video camera? Geez, I haven't seen one of those at a wedding in years. I'd bet that a survey would show most pro wedding photogs now use DSLRs. But I shall not be funding such a survey.

I highly disagree.  DSLR's are completely unfit for shooting weddings.  They lack the handheld stability, the ergonomics, and overall simplified video functionality necessary for on-the-fly style shoots.  DSLR's are also not as sharp as prosumer camcorders, and require special techniques in most cases to avoid things like moire and rolling shutter.  The only thing DSLR's excel at with regards to video is the cinematic/film-look and this is something you cannot easily get with on-the-fly shooting.

Of course this is a conversation best left for another forum!

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #826 on: April 06, 2013, 02:51:56 AM »
That really boils down to image stabilization.

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« Reply #827 on: April 07, 2013, 02:54:22 PM »
Sharp lenses make sharp images... put your money in the glass. Also DSLR produces a great image in low light and you have the bonus of a creamy archival quality image that doesn't look flattened out. My experience is that a wedding is a staged event and with planning and use of jibs and sliders you convey much more of the emotional aspect of the event than with zoom on the fly. 8)




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« Reply #828 on: April 07, 2013, 05:05:17 PM »
I highly disagree.  DSLR's are completely unfit for shooting weddings.  They lack the handheld stability, the ergonomics, and overall simplified video functionality necessary for on-the-fly style shoots.  DSLR's are also not as sharp as prosumer camcorders, and require special techniques in most cases to avoid things like moire and rolling shutter.  The only thing DSLR's excel at with regards to video is the cinematic/film-look and this is something you cannot easily get with on-the-fly shooting.

Of course this is a conversation best left for another forum!

I've seen a few Pro's at weddings using DSLR's in the past few years hand held.
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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #829 on: April 07, 2013, 05:12:19 PM »
Sharp lenses make sharp images... put your money in the glass. Also DSLR produces a great image in low light and you have the bonus of a creamy archival quality image that doesn't look flattened out. My experience is that a wedding is a staged event and with planning and use of jibs and sliders you convey much more of the emotional aspect of the event than with zoom on the fly. 8)




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I agree your glass is key, I can't stress how many amateur photographers I see with 5d's but only one lens in there camera bag. I've saved my money and use a rebel for years and now I have an arsenal of 12 lenses and 2 t4i's.

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #830 on: April 07, 2013, 05:14:31 PM »
Hello let us can hope us to have ml by one has two months?
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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #831 on: April 07, 2013, 05:22:56 PM »
I highly disagree.  DSLR's are completely unfit for shooting weddings.  They lack the handheld stability, the ergonomics, and overall simplified video functionality necessary for on-the-fly style shoots.  DSLR's are also not as sharp as prosumer camcorders, and require special techniques in most cases to avoid things like moire and rolling shutter.  The only thing DSLR's excel at with regards to video is the cinematic/film-look and this is something you cannot easily get with on-the-fly shooting.

Of course this is a conversation best left for another forum!

Everything you can mentioned can be fixed with a glidecam and some accessories. I think a 5d is the perfect camera for shooting weddings.

This is my first post! I'm excited for the future of Magic Lantern especially on the 650d. Thanks for all your hard work :)

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #832 on: April 08, 2013, 03:29:20 AM »
anyhow getting back on topic, how is the progress going on ML?

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #833 on: April 08, 2013, 10:02:49 AM »
Yep, still fixing bugs. Closed doors testing really helps nailing down bugs since people actually test the features. The FPS override bug should be fixed now, so expect another build soon.
Nanomad, you are accepting donations to help you with the development of ML for 650D?
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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #834 on: April 08, 2013, 10:13:50 AM »
Nanomad, you are accepting donations to help you with the development of ML for 650D?

I believe there was a previous post in this thread that said they had all the funding needed and posted a link to a cause that helped with copyright stuff or something similar. I suggest reading this whole post. I will keep checking back to hear about any updated towards the progress of ML for the 650D(T4i).

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #835 on: April 08, 2013, 11:00:01 AM »

from: http://www.magiclantern.fm/download

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #836 on: April 08, 2013, 12:45:14 PM »
Hello I am from Israel and sorry for my bad English I have canon 650d and I waiting for magic lantern thank you for you great work and if you need test it i can help
 

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #837 on: April 08, 2013, 01:27:51 PM »
anyhow getting back on topic, how is the progress going on ML?

Ironing out bugs, mostly due to overlooking stuff here and there :P
I'm also taking care of the 1100D because I admit I overlooked it a bit.

Nanomad, you are accepting donations to help you with the development of ML for 650D?

As g3gg0 pointed out we have all the expenses covered for now, but thanks anyway.
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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #838 on: April 08, 2013, 08:02:13 PM »
Thanks for the update Nanomad and all your hard work. Truly appreciated.

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #839 on: April 09, 2013, 01:43:07 PM »
Small reminder: in reboot.c it should compute a checksum of Canon firmware and refuse to boot with the wrong firmware version. This is a safeguard, so people don't screw up their cameras when Canon releases a new update.

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #840 on: April 10, 2013, 01:37:45 AM »
True that
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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #841 on: April 10, 2013, 03:37:34 AM »
Super excited.

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #842 on: April 10, 2013, 06:21:31 AM »
Count me super excited too!

Stayed with the T3i for as long as possible just because of the capabilities I had with ML. Wore the shutter out (was giving hints) and warranty was up, so I upped to a T4i, now also patiently waiting and super excited!!

BTW, have been registered here for a long time, just never actually post about anything...

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #843 on: April 10, 2013, 11:43:47 AM »
I can't wait until you unlock the other ML features on the T4i. Live preview features and HDR-video and motion detection is great and all, but I'm excited for when focus stacking and advanced HDR (Picture) bracketing gets on the camera!

Great work all around nonetheless.
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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #844 on: April 10, 2013, 12:45:18 PM »
I recently bought a 650D and I can't wait until ML!

Just wanna say that I think you are doing a great job and that it is very much appreciated. I LOVE YOU!
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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #845 on: April 10, 2013, 04:23:41 PM »
I guess I can come out of my non posting corner as well. I have been following this thread for quite a while and I'm really looking forward to ML on this camera. I ordered my 650D this monday and I'm still waiting for delivery.
I will be busy with the standard camera for quite a while but I really hope ML will reach it sooner or later.

The features I'm interested in using is picture HDR and scripting.

My deepest respect for those who have worked on this so far and for those who will make it reach a release.
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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #846 on: April 11, 2013, 03:58:44 AM »
Sharp lenses make sharp images... put your money in the glass. Also DSLR produces a great image in low light and you have the bonus of a creamy archival quality image that doesn't look flattened out. My experience is that a wedding is a staged event and with planning and use of jibs and sliders you convey much more of the emotional aspect of the event than with zoom on the fly. 8)



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You can put Zeiss cinema glass on a T4i and I guarantee you it will never be as sharp as a comparable camcorder.  Why?  Simple.  The sensor has no idea what a 1080P image is.  The processor uses extremely crude line & pixel skipping to simulate the 5,184 x 3,456 sensor as a 1920x1080 sensor. 

If you were to grab the centermost 1920x1080 sensor data, you would have your moire-less, tack-sharp HD video.  The problem is that you'd also be stuck with a ridiculous crop factor that wasn't very useful. 

Now, if Magic Lantern was able to change how the raw sensor data was captured, say for example, you pulled the center 3840x2160, then threw out ever 2nd horizontal pixel and every 2nd vertical pixel, you would have a much cleaner image and you would only be dealing with a zoom factor of 26%.  This would also reduce the rolling shutter considerably, because a smaller area of the sensor is being refreshed.

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #847 on: April 11, 2013, 05:38:19 PM »
Been lurking for too long without paying respect.

Thanks for all the hard work guys,
as someone who is just diving into programming on the side as well as having a full time job,
I have a huge respect for you guys being able to put such hard work into this project.
Best of luck with everything, and don't stress over it too much!
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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #848 on: April 12, 2013, 12:29:34 AM »
I am new here  i dont know anything about coding or anything like that. i am a film student i can only request for what i want to see  for the 650D i want  to be able to shoot Raw and 4K  it will be nice to see these function. ;D

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Re: Canon 650D [Status: Hello, world!]
« Reply #849 on: April 12, 2013, 12:49:12 AM »
Why stop at 4k? Why not 8K?