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VisualPursuit

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #850 on: October 30, 2013, 09:55:12 AM »
As of today, Canon announced firmware 1.2.3, again with reference to
further bugfixing on the AFMA misadjustment problem.
http://usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/digital_slr_cameras/eos_5d_mark_iii#DriversAndSoftware

Let's hope they finally fixed it and that this will help in moving from 1.1.3
as a basis for ML to now 1.2.3.

Yes, I know about the work, and unfortunately I cannot be of much help.

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #851 on: November 02, 2013, 10:01:28 AM »
Does anybody know when a new ML version will come out to support  FW 1.2.3 Versions? I have no problem in using 1.1.3 but for monitoring using hdmi out the image is a fourth of the screen size. So it si no help in buying a 7 inch external monitor for focusing help if the output image on it is only a fraction of its size ( not bigger than the one on the camera back)...

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #852 on: November 03, 2013, 09:35:30 PM »
Does anybody know when a new ML version will come out to support  FW 1.2.3 Versions? I have no problem in using 1.1.3 but for monitoring using hdmi out the image is a fourth of the screen size. So it si no help in buying a 7 inch external monitor for focusing help if the output image on it is only a fraction of its size ( not bigger than the one on the camera back)...

My IKAN VH8 works quite nicely with ML on 1.1.3. It has autoscaling, so if you turn off all screen overlays then the video becomes full screen. You should try it and see if you have any luck.

I also had an issue for a while with the preview rectangle being in the wrong position on the monitor, but I read elsewhere that turning the grayscale preview option on would strangely fix this, and sure enough it did.

I can't wait until ML RAW is more stable, but at least it works with a little finessing.

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #853 on: November 04, 2013, 07:18:55 PM »
Hi,

I'm new to ML.
I have a 5D3 upgraded to 1.2.3.
Can/should I install ML?

Thanks,
Sharon

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #854 on: November 04, 2013, 11:32:59 PM »
Hi,

I'm new to ML.
I have a 5D3 upgraded to 1.2.3.
Can/should I install ML?

Thanks,
Sharon

Sharon, you will have to downgrade to 1.1.3 or wait until someone does the necessary work.

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #855 on: November 05, 2013, 11:08:43 PM »
Sharon, you will have to downgrade to 1.1.3 or wait until someone does the necessary work.

Thanks.
I'll be waiting.

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #856 on: November 07, 2013, 11:58:52 PM »
I hope this is the right place for this question.

This may be a silly question but I've searched through the forums & I can't find the answer anywhere (my apologies if I've missed something obvious).
With the Alpha 3 version (or any other version), is it possible to record H.264 video (NOT RAW!) longer than 30 minutes on the 5D3, provided the card is formatted exFAT?

I am trying to see if it is possible to record the native H.264 5D3 video for longer than the 30-minute limit, and I would like to avoid altering the bootflag on the camera if at all possible (that's why I'm attracted to the Alpha 3 version, as if I'm not mistaken it doesn't alter the bootflag).

With this goal in mind, what is the best ML version for me to be using?

Thanks very much for the help.

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #857 on: November 08, 2013, 09:07:03 PM »
Is anyone aware whether or not the EULA for the new firmware version (1.2.3) has removed the odious reverse-engineering inhibiting clause, which kept ML from being ported to v1.2.1?
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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #858 on: November 09, 2013, 10:14:30 AM »
Is anyone aware whether or not the EULA for the new firmware version (1.2.3) has removed the odious reverse-engineering inhibiting clause, which kept ML from being ported to v1.2.1?

From the End User License Agreement for updating to 1.2.3 on the Canon U.S.A. site ( http://usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/digital_slr_cameras/eos_5d_mark_iii#DriversAndSoftware -- click through and you'll see it just before you download):

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You shall not alter, modify, disassemble, decompile or otherwise reverse engineer the Software and you also shall not have any third party to do so.

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The following End User License Agreement applies only to camera firmware updaters.

I'm no lawyer, but that seems to suggest that it doesn't apply to people who buy their cameras with 1.2.3 or other firmware already on it (i.e., who don't update), and so (perhaps?) it needn't prevent ML from being ported to newer versions of the firmware.

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #859 on: November 09, 2013, 03:59:31 PM »
Note that you can download the firmware from Canon's European or UK sites without any reverse engineering clause:

http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_5D_Mark_III.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:14-1098601&page=1&type=download

EDIT: if anyone has a rom dump for 1.2.3 I'll be willing to have a go at updating the stubs...  (I don't want to upgrade to 1.2.3 then downgrade back to 1.1.3 as I've heard a couple of people say that can aggravate the AFMA bug)
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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #860 on: November 09, 2013, 08:04:09 PM »
if anyone has a rom dump for 1.2.3 for me I'll be willing to have a go at updating the stubs...  (I don't want to upgrade to 1.2.3 then downgrade back to 1.1.3 as I've heard a couple of people say that can aggravate the AFMA bug)
I've heard that too. My 5D3 has 1.2.1 (and no ML yet) and I'd be willing to update to 1.2.3 and provide you with a rom dump if I had a clue how to do that. If no one else offers, and you'd like to PM me with instructions or links to instructions for doing a rom dump, I'll give it a shot.

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #861 on: November 10, 2013, 04:20:45 PM »
I've heard that too. My 5D3 has 1.2.1 (and no ML yet) and I'd be willing to update to 1.2.3 and provide you with a rom dump if I had a clue how to do that. If no one else offers, and you'd like to PM me with instructions or links to instructions for doing a rom dump, I'll give it a shot.

My understanding (and be aware that I'm far from expert...) is that it would just be a matter of flashing the updater firmware in the first post of this thread to get the firmware dumped out to the memory card. I'm not sure where the source code is for that firmware file though so I can't check to be comfortable that it will run successfully/safely on 1.2.3. On top of that, the firmware also turns on the bootflag which currently can't be undone. I'm sure you don't want to enable the bootflag on your camera just yet (it slows down startup/wakeup of the camera and prevents Eye-Fi cards from working) so I'd recommend against you running it. Thanks for the offer though!
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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #862 on: November 10, 2013, 05:22:23 PM »
I'm sure you don't want to enable the bootflag on your camera just yet (it slows down startup/wakeup of the camera and prevents Eye-Fi cards from working) so I'd recommend against you running it. Thanks for the offer though!

Although I'm seriously considering installing raw on my 5D3, which would involve both downgrading to 1.1.3 and setting the bootflag with no way to safely reset it, you're right that I'm not yet ready to enable the bootflag (or downgrade to 1.1.3). So I hope others come forward to help. Good luck!

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #863 on: November 19, 2013, 06:36:33 PM »
Hello friends

I just bought my 5d3 with 1.2.3 on it. Is downgrading possible ?

Thanks

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #864 on: November 20, 2013, 01:40:08 AM »
Bonjour a toutes et a tous! Je recherche désespérement le moyen de passer de la version 1.2.1 a la version 1.1.3 sur mon 5d mark III.

Avez-vous un lien de téléchargement du firmware 1.1.3 sur mac et y a t'il un risque en fesant cette manipulation??

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #865 on: November 20, 2013, 04:35:25 AM »
All ML 5D3 developers,

Not sure if this is the best thread to post this on, if it's not someone please move it where it belongs.  For anyone working on 5D3 ML for firmware 1.2.3, I'm willing to test and provide feedback needed to get it on the way to being a stable release.  For me, and I believe others too, my main need from the updated firmware is the HDMI mirroring options. There are many situations on set where there's a need for both the on camera monitor and an external monitor to be running (i.e. 1st AC's pulling focus while Cam Op composes shots) and "Image on both LCD and external monitor at the same time" is listed on the features NOT POSSIBLE list.  I feel this feature is very necessary on set and if it's not possible form the ML developer teams I'm willing to help test on the firmware that it's already included on.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #866 on: November 20, 2013, 11:02:14 PM »
It looks like the nasty language is still present in the "Grant of License" section of the license for downloading the v1.2.3 firmware ( "You shall not alter, modify, disassemble, decompile or otherwise reverse engineer the Software and you also shall not have any third party to do so. You shall not modify, remove or delete a copyright notice of Canon contained in the Software." )

This was cribbed directly from Canon's site ( http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_5d_mark_iii#DriversAndSoftware )

Looks like we're not about to see any official Magic Lantern versions based on the v1.2.3 firmware.

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #867 on: November 20, 2013, 11:51:12 PM »
Looks like we're not about to see any official Magic Lantern versions based on the v1.2.3 firmware.

This is a non-issue. It has been widely discussed on here already and is well known to the developers that firmware downloaded from Canon's European sites doesn't have the reverse engineering clause. The work simply needs to be done by someone who knows how. I would have a go myself if I knew how to get a firmware dump of 1.2.3.
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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #868 on: November 24, 2013, 12:27:24 PM »
Ou puis-je télécharger la dernière version de ML pour le 5d3?? Merci d'avance!!

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #869 on: November 30, 2013, 06:33:37 AM »
Bonjour;
J'ai essayé le dernière mouture sur mon MARK III firmware 1.1.3
Pas de problème ! Parfait.
pour aider, voici ce qu'il y a sur ma carte sd qu'il ne faut pas oublier de mettre en place
avant la mise en marche de l'appareil ++++

DCIM
MISC
ML
5D3-113-bootflag.fir
autoexec.bin
ROM.DAT

C'est tout!
il semble que pour une mise à jour, il faudra écraser le dossier ML et le fichier autoexec.bin

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #870 on: December 02, 2013, 11:10:29 AM »
Ou puis-je trouver ces fichiers??

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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #871 on: December 02, 2013, 04:48:29 PM »
I hope this topic's language did not switch to French...
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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #872 on: December 04, 2013, 01:15:18 AM »
I hope this topic's language did not switch to French...
I will have to go back to school to learn it..! ;)
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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #873 on: December 06, 2013, 12:06:20 PM »
Hi guys,
just buyed today a 5d mkiii. I'm already using ml with 60d and 6d. i've read all i found about 5d mkiii ml development, and as i understood there's no safe way to disable bootflag from the camera and with the bootflag the camera needs seconds to switch on. correct?
So the first post on this thread suggest to use the "non autoboot" way, updating the firmware every time, or try at your own risk the developer version, hoping that sometimes in the future will be possible to disable the boot flag on the camera.
I've tried the alpha3 version. It works, but cannot see the most of magic lantern things (that's probably what is in the alpha3). So my question is, the only way to shoot raw, to use timelapse functions etc, is to use the developer firmware updater (enabling the boot flag) and using the nightly build?
Or is possible to have access to those functions also with the non-developer fir and doing every time the fir install procedure?
i've tried to put the files of the nightly in the same card of the FIR, but magic lantern still display only the alpha3 voices of menu.

thank you guys :)
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Re: Magic Lantern for 5D Mark III - Alpha 3 + DevKit
« Reply #874 on: December 08, 2013, 12:25:12 AM »
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