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mik3

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Canon 7D + ML 7D203 : camera boot only with one CF card
« on: March 30, 2021, 10:25:10 PM »
Hi there,

I am the happy owner of a Canon 7D updated to FW 2.0.3 with the objective of getting ML working on it.
I own 2 CF and one CF adapter with with a 128 GB SD card.
I used a CF 8 GB to install both FW 2.0.3 and ML.


Pre-installation of ML
I can use the 8 GB and 128 GB CF/SD card without issues, I recorded videos to test the freshly installed FW 2.0.3 from Canon on both cards (the 8 GB CF and the 128 CF/SD). All well under the sun.

Post-Installation of ML
ML seems to work like a charm even if I only scratched the surface. I used the 8 GB memory card to install it.
BUT, when I use another CF the camera isn't booting at all. It stays dead.

Actions :
  • I remove the 8 GB memory card and insert the 128 GB CF/SD card
  • The Canon 7D doesn't react, like bricked. No led, no AF, nothing.
  • I remove the battery and insert it again.
  • The Canon 7D remains dead
  • I remove the memory card, close the hatch and leave it without card
  • Remove/insert battery
    • The Canon 7D switch ON with ML.

Result of the tests
  • Canon 7D boots with the 8GB where ML is installed
  • Canon 7D boot without memory card
  • Canon 7D stays dead (bricked) with another CF than the 8 GB

I explored the forum and website. I don't know what troubleshooting scenario I should follow. I am reluctant to format my CF as it is the only card that can get the camera running and I want to avoid to cut myself from any other options.

As far as I know I haven't found similar cases to mine. I am correct?
Thanks in advance to all for your answers and a advices. :)[/list]
Canon 7D, FW 2.0.3, ML nightly 2018-07-02-7D203
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mik3

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Re: Canon 7D + ML 7D203 : camera boot only with one CF card
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2021, 10:29:50 PM »
One correction as I missed to add a line, and I don't find how to edit my previous post.
The Canon 7D switch on without cards (with Canon out of the box firmware).
AND, the Canon 7D switch on with the 8GB CF that was used to install ML.

On all other cases the 7D don't Switch ON at all / Brick.
Cheers  :)
Canon 7D, FW 2.0.3, ML nightly 2018-07-02-7D203
+ Sigma 18-200

Walter Schulz

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Re: Canon 7D + ML 7D203 : camera boot only with one CF card
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2021, 08:26:29 AM »
https://wiki.magiclantern.fm/hoc#sd-to-cf_adapters
A stalled camera requires battery pull before running again.

Format non-running CF-card using a cardreader and (if it works) within camera. Report back

mik3

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Re: Canon 7D + ML 7D203 : camera boot only with one CF card
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2021, 10:21:20 PM »
Hi @Walter Schulz,
Thank for the advices.

I formatted the 128 GB SD/CF with no luck with the camera that remains inactive with this specific card. So I couldn't follow with the second step to format on the camera itself.

BUT, I found my old 2 GB CF card in a drawer and it did worked on the 7D! With regular Canon FW as expected. Meanning that the issue with the 7D relates more on the adapter side combined with ML than in ML alone.
 
Which can be surprising as it was working fine with the canon firmware 2.0.3 as I could record a few minutes of video of my son. So the install of ML had an impact on the compatibility (or I got lucky onthe first place, and switched my luck to get ML running).

I feel that it would be pointless to insist to use the adapter as it is known to not be recommended. Unless there would be some actions that could restore the use of that memory card with the camera. If by any chance there was a way to make it work. The funny thing was that it worked with FW 2.0.3 and after installing ML the card (not bootable yet) don't even allow the camera to boot.

I am open to suggestions. But i keep in mind that it is more secure to go with a standard CF card.
Thanks!
Canon 7D, FW 2.0.3, ML nightly 2018-07-02-7D203
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Walter Schulz

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Re: Canon 7D + ML 7D203 : camera boot only with one CF card
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2021, 10:34:00 PM »
If you want to use SD-to-CF you have to uninstall ML: Redo installation, wait for 60 seconds.