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garry23

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New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« on: April 29, 2020, 01:04:43 AM »
Some be be interested in this, especially at the moment.

https://1.shortstack.com/VChq6Z

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2020, 04:22:37 AM »
That's pathetic:
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* This Software is for use in the U.S. and will not be supported outside that area.
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/self-help-center/eos-webcam-utility/

I haven't tested the software, since my cameras are not supported (they apparently decided that old cameras should not be supported even though they have the same liveview mechanism). I'm sure there's a way to circumvent that geographic limitation, but in "challenging times" like these the company limits its software to one country... and for what purpose? None.

ps: btw, thanks for sharing the link @garry23

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2020, 07:34:09 AM »
Yeah. Us guys over here have to stick to random stream/screen recording solutions or Sparkocam... These cameras are too new for me lol
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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2020, 10:14:30 PM »
Although I don’t have a camera that is compatible with the software, I did download it in the UK and it loads and runs on my Win10.

I think ‘not supported’ means that Canon won’t answer questions. It doesn’t appear to be region locked.

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2020, 03:27:57 AM »
doesnt work for the eos m?

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2020, 10:59:30 AM »
According to Reddit users there are a number of unlisted cams working with this utility. Not confirmed for EOS M yet.

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2020, 12:27:31 PM »
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According to Reddit users there are a number of unlisted cams working with this utility. Not confirmed for EOS M yet.

Hopefully someone will post a list ;-)

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2020, 05:45:41 PM »
Looks like it is working for all cams supporting liveview. Including Digic IV.

I'm not a programmer: Funny thing (IMO) they managed to get a clean USB output but keeping cam's liveview display active including overlays. Looks like USB is able to do a bit more than we knew.

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2020, 08:05:30 PM »
I installed this application. After starting from EOS M, instead of the camera image, we have the application logo. The display has a black background with a computer icon.

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2020, 08:10:05 PM »
Make sure EOS Utility doesn't get started when cam is connected. If EOS Utility comes up first you won't get a connection via EOS Webcam Utility.

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2020, 09:00:20 PM »
Sadly, although it could be me, I can't get either my G7X or my G5X to work with the Webcam beta.


Walter Schulz

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2020, 09:04:38 PM »
G7X, not G7X Mark III?
G5X, not G5X Mark II?

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2020, 09:31:23 PM »
Yes, I saw the listed cams, but hoped the original G7X and G5X might still be supported, as unlisted cams.

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2020, 09:39:11 PM »
I'm just speculating: Both cams are supported by CHDK which means they run on PowerShot code base.
Not a single cam running this code showed up working with this beta.
All cams confirmed running are with EOS codebase or - as called in CHDK forum - "hybrid" (M50, G7X III, G5X II for example).

Again: I'm just guessing!

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2020, 09:56:17 PM »
@Walter Schulz

Sounds a reasonable ‘guess’ and I have no other view.

Oh well, such is life.

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2020, 09:23:04 AM »
Please excuse my ignorance but wouldn't EOS Utility do the same thing with our old cameras - allow to use them as webcameras?  In combination with OBS, also streaming should be possible.  Something like this:


Has anybody tried that?  What about the video quality? Will it work with ML too?

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2020, 09:35:52 AM »
Works with 5D Mark III. But output width is narrowed. Output resolution is 1280x720 (maybe smaller).

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EOS Webcam Utility allows use DSLR direct as webcam without some hack tools.

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2020, 10:11:01 AM »
Will it work with ML too?

Yes. Tested with 650D:
You can enable both screens at the same time, if wanted. Clean web cam screen all the time + Magic Lantern with menus and liveview overlays on cam's display. You can check proper exposure and focus settings via cam display.

@EOS M & EOS M2 users: Does it work with your camera?

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2020, 11:07:42 AM »
Thanks for this information, Herr Schulz, I'll check it out by myself.  What maximum resolution do you get on your computer screen out of your 650D when working with ML?

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2020, 06:10:31 PM »
Just tried it with my 5D3 and it works.

Of course, not being a video guy, I've now got to work out a few things, like focus.

I assume the 5D3 in this 'cam mode' doesn't do continuous auto face focus?

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2020, 06:15:49 PM »
Has anybody tried that?  What about the video quality? Will it work with ML too?
I have been doing that for about a month or so. It works well actually. The camera freezes from time to time (I think it's 30min max), so you have to reconnect it sometimes. The resolution is pretty low (640x480px I think). But it works. Here's the method I'm using: https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=24877.0

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2020, 07:19:31 PM »
Wait what it's working with older cameras? Lemme try with my 5D2 and t3i real quick hold on
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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2020, 07:23:21 PM »
https://github.com/v002/v002-Camera-Live

mac alternative
This one works nicely with 5D2 on OSX. Resolution is 1280x720 and I can get 25fps. EOS M does not work.
5D3.113 | EOSM.202

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Re: New Canon Announcement: EOS Webcam Utility Beta Software
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2020, 08:19:00 PM »
Thanks a lot, Luther.  I tried EOS Utility on my 100D today but it does not work with ML.  As soon as I connect the cable to the PC, the EOS Utility starts and the RAW video mode turns off.  It ony works with the built in H264 video.