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70MM13

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lagarith copy of "the process" in 4k on youtube
« on: July 19, 2019, 04:37:37 AM »
just for the hell of it, i tried uploading the 4k lagarith master of one of my music videos to youtube, and it worked!

i shot it in 3072 1:1 and upscaled to 3840 in resolve.  i can't vouch for whatever youtube transcoded it to, i'm just shocked they accepted the lagarith file!

nice!

if anyone else uses lagarith, this is great news!


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Re: lagarith copy of "the process" in 4k on youtube
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2019, 05:37:44 AM »
Youtube-dl output:

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format code  extension  resolution note
140          m4a        audio only DASH audio  130k , m4a_dash container, mp4a.40.2@128k, 4.34MiB
251          webm       audio only DASH audio  166k , opus @160k, 4.58MiB
278          webm       256x144    144p  107k , webm container, vp9, 24fps, video only, 2.26MiB
160          mp4        256x144    144p  118k , avc1.4d400c, 24fps, video only, 2.10MiB
242          webm       426x240    240p  242k , vp9, 24fps, video only, 3.42MiB
133          mp4        426x240    240p  276k , avc1.4d4015, 24fps, video only, 4.84MiB
243          webm       640x360    360p  456k , vp9, 24fps, video only, 6.17MiB
134          mp4        640x360    360p  627k , avc1.4d401e, 24fps, video only, 9.79MiB
244          webm       854x480    480p  878k , vp9, 24fps, video only, 11.17MiB
135          mp4        854x480    480p 1196k , avc1.4d401e, 24fps, video only, 19.91MiB
247          webm       1280x720   720p 2124k , vp9, 24fps, video only, 23.83MiB
136          mp4        1280x720   720p 2359k , avc1.4d401f, 24fps, video only, 42.30MiB
248          webm       1920x1080  1080p 3050k , vp9, 24fps, video only, 43.88MiB
137          mp4        1920x1080  1080p 4825k , avc1.640028, 24fps, video only, 85.55MiB
271          webm       2560x1440  1440p 12681k , vp9, 24fps, video only, 156.89MiB
313          webm       3840x2160  2160p 18023k , vp9, 24fps, video only, 297.91MiB
18           mp4        640x360    medium , avc1.42001E, mp4a.40.2@ 96k, 14.94MiB (best)

I don't think uploading lossless is very efficient, though. You could just upload ProRes 422 lite or DNxHD 422 and have the same quality, since youtube will compress to VP9/H.264...
I would like to test AV1 10-bit Rec.2020 on youtube some day:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AV1

Nice video, btw! Amazing quality on the scene at 02:32. Also, very trippy music, reminds me of Kraftwerk. I like it.

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Re: lagarith copy of "the process" in 4k on youtube
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2019, 12:53:27 PM »
thanks for the kind comments.

i too am eagerly awaiting av1, but for me the best part of uploading the lagarith master is in two parts:
1) no need to transcode (nice time saver)
2) let youtube do the encoding so no more guesswork and bad results!

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Re: lagarith copy of "the process" in 4k on youtube
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2019, 07:50:57 PM »
Sorry for the noob questions. Just trying to see if this can actually benefit/save time on my workflow:

Can you explain what lagarith is? You export lagarith from MLVapp? Or Is lagarith something that you use exporting in resolve?
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Re: lagarith copy of "the process" in 4k on youtube
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2019, 08:06:32 PM »
I didn't like upscaling from 1854 to 1920 but I eventually got over it and happy with the results. I'm just starting to play with 3072 on my Mark II and was willing to settle for 1440 @ 2.40:1 but you just convinced me to give 4k res a shot! That looks GREAT. Lens and ISO, if you can remember? What Canon model did you use? And now I'm curious about lagarith, already been on the developer page.
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Re: lagarith copy of "the process" in 4k on youtube
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2019, 08:40:55 PM »
because i was incorporating footage from blender into the video, i did the composition using vegas (old habits die hard) - the output from vegas was lagarith 4k.

i need to change that workflow, but i'm just too unmotivated to fix what isn't broken, and now that i can upload the lagarith files straight to youtube, i am extremely unmotivated ;)

i shot it at iso 109 on my 5d3 (gain reduction from 200) -- these days i do iso111 which is a little better! see my tommy's tree talks videos for examples.  all those are iso111.

the lenses used were:
tokina 11-16 f2.8
rokinon 24 t1.5
rokinon 35 t1.5
canon 50 f1.4

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Re: lagarith copy of "the process" in 4k on youtube
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2019, 09:16:03 PM »
thanks!
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