Anyone have any experience with 128gb 1066x Komputer Bay Cards?

Started by zossboss, January 17, 2017, 06:24:20 AM

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zossboss

I'm looking for insights on how the card performs compared to the 64gb version 1066x and how they hold up to RAW continuous 23.976 recording at 1920x1080 on a 5D Mark III. I have a gig this friday filming a funeral service and I'm on the cusp of buying 4 of them so I can record the whole service. I have (6) 64gb cards but I dont wanna be switching out the cards ever 10 or so minutes. So here are my questions:

1. Are they as stable as the 64gb 1066x version? I've heard mixed reviews.
2. How many minutes can I record filming 1920x1080 23.976 on 5D Mark III? I'll probably run a tighter aspect ratio to maximize time though.
3. Any issues filming continuous until cards full? Overheating? Data Corruption?

I can record the service in standard compressed format, but I really hate the way it looks now that I've been filming RAW for so long.

I think I'm running an Aug 2015 version of ML.

Thanks in advanced guy!

zossboss

and i just found out about 256gb...anyone wanna share some experience on those too :)

DeafEyeJedi

Quote from: zossboss on January 17, 2017, 07:17:21 PM
and i just found out about 256gb...anyone wanna share some experience on those too :)

•KB 128GB 1066x gives me about 24 minutes of RAW (14-bit) continuous in 24p until the card gets filled. (I own four of them)

•KB 256GB 1066x gives me about over 47 minutes of RAW (14-bit) continuous in 24p until the card gets filled. (still experimental)

The reason why I'm still in experimental mode with the 256GB cards (I have two) is the fact that once they have been formatted it gives you a reading of 238GB (not 256GB) so not sure if recording will stop at 238GB or at 256GB -- haven't needed to shoot that long of a take yet.

However, I have learned that I feel better with more of a efficient workflow when it comes to using 128GB 1066x because then I can swap out cards every 24 minutes or so (while digesting 128GB worth of RAW via USB 3.0 takes roughly about the same amount of time into a SSD more or less) and keep in mind if use HDD then it will take longer to ingest for obvious reasons.

The worst part about owning these 256GB (besides the freedom of shooting RAW for over 45 minutes in 24p) is the fact that it takes about 45 minute to an hour if not more to digest footage into a SSD and to me that can be a quite annoying. Again it all depends on your situation.

I tend to use Disk Utility to format all of my KB 128GB 1066x CF cards after each ingest in order to keep the exFAT format but no need to w 256GB 1066x.

The cool part about these 256GB 1066x CF cards is the fact that it can be formatted in-cam which then keeps it's exFAT format which can be handy for some situations.

After all KomputerBay (@KB TechSupport) has been exceptional when it comes to customer service and you can't go wrong with them when it comes to ML.

Quote from: zossboss on January 17, 2017, 06:24:20 AM
..I think I'm running an Aug 2015 version of ML..

Care to share why won't you try to use the latest Nightly?
5D3.113 | 5D3.123 | EOSM.203 | 7D.203 | 70D.112 | 100D.101 | EOSM2.* | 50D.109

Walter Schulz

Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on January 17, 2017, 07:50:49 PM
The reason why I'm still in experimental mode with the 256GB cards (I have two) is the fact that once they have been formatted it gives you a reading of 238GB (not 256GB) so not sure if recording will stop at 238GB or at 256GB -- haven't needed to shoot that long of a take yet.

I didn't answer this question in the past because ...

Devices inquire the card's capacity and devices don't ask for GiByte or GByte but just bytes. That's what the card is telling the devices OS/firmware. And it really doesn't matter if the device is showing you GiBytes or GBytes calculated from the byte number given by the card.


Is it clear now? There is no problem.
And you have the same non-problem with your 128 GByte cards. Just take a look and compare numbers.

DeafEyeJedi

5D3.113 | 5D3.123 | EOSM.203 | 7D.203 | 70D.112 | 100D.101 | EOSM2.* | 50D.109

zossboss

Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on January 17, 2017, 07:56:15 PM
Care to share why won't you try to use the latest Nightly?

Is there any significant differences? I haven't updated as this version has been extremely stable. If there's a nice change I might update.

Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on January 17, 2017, 07:56:15 PM

However, I have learned that I feel better with more of an quite efficient workflow when it comes to using 128GB 1066x because then I can swap out cards every 24 minutes or so (while digesting 128GB worth of RAW via USB 3.0 takes roughly about the same amount of time into a SSD more or less) and keep in mind if use HDD then it will take longer to ingest for obvious reasons.

The worst part about owning these 256GB (besides the freedom of shooting RAW for over 45 minutes in 24p) is the fact that it takes about 45 minute to an hour if not more to digest footage into a SSD and to me that can be a quite annoying. Again it all depends on your situation.

The main reason for 256gb cards is to film continuous for more than 30min for ceremonies and other live events like that. Only for those moments would I ever use them or try to anyways haha

Thanks for the info man!

MitchLally

Quote from: zossboss on January 17, 2017, 09:01:46 PM
Is there any significant differences? I haven't updated as this version has been extremely stable. If there's a nice change I might update.

The main reason for 256gb cards is to film continuous for more than 30min for ceremonies and other live events like that. Only for those moments would I ever use them or try to anyways haha

Thanks for the info man!

I film weddings with the 256GB cards and have owned 128GB cards too. Highly recommend the 1066x and 1200x cards from KB. Recently I had a 128GB Lexar die on me... KB cards still going strong.

And as for upgrading to the latest nightly – its super quick and easy to do. I would even go one step further and try out the new 10/12 bit raw experimental build for the 5D3 as it will give you up to 70 minutes with the 256 card or 34 minutes with 128 card shooting at 10 bit.

noipego

just make sure you use'em with udma7 readers or they get corrupted...i learned that the hard way and lost some serious files from the card....most files were recovered tho. i use only lexar/sandisc since then.

DeafEyeJedi

That's correct & Thanks for the friendly reminder @noipego -- Kingston FCR-HS4 works well for me.

Quote from: MitchLally on January 17, 2017, 11:51:59 PM
...Highly recommend the 1066x and 1200x cards from KB...

If you don't mind me asking -- do you get any advantage in terms of speed with the 1200x over the 1066x even tho I thought that the 1066x would be the 'sweet' spot for 5D3 and please correct me if I'm wrong?
5D3.113 | 5D3.123 | EOSM.203 | 7D.203 | 70D.112 | 100D.101 | EOSM2.* | 50D.109

noipego

 Kingston FCR-HS4 and Lexar dual-slot usb3 are the readers that KB support suggested me to use after i contacted them...also i think 1200x is useless since 5d3 tops write speed at 100mb? (actually ~85mb in video recording)