Crop mode recording (crop_rec.mo) (1:1, RAW/H.264, 25/30/50/60 fps)

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DeafEyeJedi

It may not be. Usually I go back and forth for testing purpose or depending on certain gig's requirements but at the moment it's still on 113. If so, then I can upgrade easily in camera.

The 5D3 is at home and am currently on the road driving back from visiting the grandparents. Will do this tonight and report back my findings!
5D3.113 | 5D3.123 | EOSM.203 | 7D.203 | 70D.112 | 100D.101 | EOSM2.* | 50D.109

rrrmusic

Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on January 01, 2017, 12:24:08 AM
@rrrmusic -- just double checking you didn't load both mlv_rec.mo and raw_rec.mo at the same time, correct?
At the same time off course not and one of the test that i did with the mlvrec module completely disabled

RenatoPhoto

@Alex:  This is the best module and have been using for my bird videos.
The build you provided : magiclantern-crop3x.2016Apr01.5D3123.zip  is very good and stable.  I have been using exclusively without any problems.
Best regards and much appreciation for your work.
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NoCp_Albert

@Alex and RenatoPhoto

even for the same use on bird and nature video I use the last version from Alex - 5D3 1.2.3: magiclantern-crop3x.2016Sep05.5D3123.zip (build log). I used it since September without any problems.
Thanks very much for your work.

EOS 5D3 -113,-123, EOS 7D2, EOS 400, Lens EF16-35 f4 L, EF35 f2 IS, EF85 f1.8, EF 24-105 f4 L, EF 100-400 L II, EF 600 f4 L, Samyang 14mm f2.8, Canon Tc 1,4III, Kenko Tc 1,4 DGC

ewinemiller

I'm using dfort's 5d3 1.13 build from 12/24. The new 5x centered crop mode, 10 bit RAW, and 2880x1320 with the SLR Magic anamorphot adapter on the front might become my new favorite way to shoot. Continuous recording works fine and the results look really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceOLk12J7bs

Right now about every 4th or 5th shot results in the black levels being trashed and the fix black level in mlv dump doesn't seem to help. There are other corruptions of the video when that happens so I think it's more than just the black level.

Having said that, 4kish RAW video from a 4.5 year old camera is freaking awesome.

Danne

Recorded with or without greyscale preview on? Have you tested with previous builds? Better results?

ewinemiller

Quote from: Danne on January 07, 2017, 07:36:05 PM
Recorded with or without greyscale preview on? Have you tested with previous builds? Better results?

I did not use greyscale preview. Looks broken in that build with that combination of settings.

This was the first build I found that combined crop mode and 10 bit recording so I didn't try this before. I couldn't have got continuous recording on 14bit.

budafilms

Iso values are not changing with wheel, or joystick, or whatever you use... even in Iso button on camera top, or ML menu.

5D mark III, 1.1.3 Build 2016-09-05 19:59

Edit: I put out ML Card, reset factory settings. Battery out. Check the wheel without ML and camera works fine. I am using other ML build.

Danne

This is one great module.
I tried with a late compile yesterday and iso was changed while recording over here while recording in crop mode. Anybody else maybe can test this as well?

RenatoPhoto

@A1lex:
I think 5D-123 should be listed on the crop module experiments:
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html

I have used it for a while and it is GREAT!
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NoCp_Albert

Today I try also the 5D3-113 Module from dfort - magiclantern-raw_video_10bit_12bit_crop_rec.2016Dec24.5D3113. I try the crop Mode with the 5x centered crop and after a few changes in my settings it was working very god without corrupted Files. I made perfect clips with 2880x1320-10 bit, 15sec, 25fps and with 2400x1320, 10bit, 25fps it works continual. I prepare at the moment a video with some sequences and the ML settings.
I believe there was also a version for the 5D3-123 from dfort, but I don't save it to try it out. Maybe someone get id for download again.

The charm one this 10bit-crop-record version against the Standard Crop mode Module from September 2016 what I normaly use is to use also the 10bit Version with higher resolution. What I see today is one of the best results and simular to the Crop-Mode, also the colors and resolution don't need big corrections in ACR Lightroom, everything looks perfect for me.

Sorry for my bad english
EOS 5D3 -113,-123, EOS 7D2, EOS 400, Lens EF16-35 f4 L, EF35 f2 IS, EF85 f1.8, EF 24-105 f4 L, EF 100-400 L II, EF 600 f4 L, Samyang 14mm f2.8, Canon Tc 1,4III, Kenko Tc 1,4 DGC

budafilms

Can we add the module crop mode usefull for h264/RAW, to the build RAW 10/12 bits?

5D Mark 3 Firmware 1.1.3

dfort

I have made special builds that combined crop_rec with 10/12bit for the 5D3.113 and 5D3.123 but have had limited success. There are some 5D3 users who now have development systems running and have expressed an interest in taking over these special builds. Great news because they can test them before posting.


budafilms

@Dfort

thank you for the explanation.

I can make test if you need and report back. I don't have skills to programming, but for film is my everyday job.

dfort

Quote from: RenatoPhoto on January 09, 2017, 06:31:37 PM
@A1lex:
I think 5D-123 should be listed on the crop module experiments:
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html

I have used it for a while and it is GREAT!

Looks like he heard you. Check it out.

NoCp_Albert

@dfort

my help can only be testing and report back to, I am an old photographer but following Magic Lantern for Video especially with crop mode over 4 years now. I work on WIN 10 and Adobe Cloud with Lightroom, PS, AE and Premiere Pro, but programming isn't my Job. I use the Canon Firmware 113 and 123, change the Firmware is every time possible. So if you need testing something special an the 5d3 let me know. About the test I made yesterday here is a small video shows you my settings and a few clips with the result. https://youtu.be/W39_BB4vp0o

From MLV to DNG I use MLV Mystic, raw2cdng 17.9 and MLV Producer. Best results I get with MLV Mystic and ACR / Lightroom. Because I am a Nature and Bird photographer not so interested in LUT´s and Movie optic.
EOS 5D3 -113,-123, EOS 7D2, EOS 400, Lens EF16-35 f4 L, EF35 f2 IS, EF85 f1.8, EF 24-105 f4 L, EF 100-400 L II, EF 600 f4 L, Samyang 14mm f2.8, Canon Tc 1,4III, Kenko Tc 1,4 DGC

dfort

@NoCp_Albert

If you check my profile you'll see that I'm also an old photographer. First of all, wow--you've got a lot of modules loaded. You aren't experiencing any issues with that? I also noticed that you are running one of the crop_rec/10bit-12bit builds that reportedly wasn't working though it seems to work for you. Are the tests you posted using the 113 or 123 firmware?

NoCp_Albert

@dfort
Hi Daniel, in one of your Treads in the last Days you write about a "April joke" meaning some different reports from Testers. I don't understand all the Programming Details in many Treads and I believe many others ML Interessted User got the same Problem. But I cut feel that you was not satisfied about the different reports about the Testing Modules you offer to bring the Crop mode and 10,12-14 Bit Mode together.

Let me say since 4 Years I use more or less ML Modules anthill I found with the 3xCrop Mode exactly what I need and looking for, especially for the 5D3-123 Firmware, because I use a Field monitor for manual focusing the small Birds on bigger distances. With my 65 years old Eyes the Monitor is a big help. I use Lenses from 12 to 100-400mm and 600mm or 840mm with T-Converter and the 3xcrop Mode works perfect for my Bird documentaries.

I read your Reaction and ask myself what I can do to help by testing especially for the 5D3 with 123 Firmware. So I change the Firmware from 123 to 113 and test the last December Modules where 5xcentered Crop and 10, 12 and14 bit is together. Id needs a bit to understand the workflow, but now I got it. Today I was out in the Fields around Paphos – Cyprus and test it in the real World. I used MLV with Sound and Auto ETTR, the Module works without Problem in the way I used. The Colors and Withe balance are nearly ok when I open the MLV in Lightroom, only small corrections in the Highlights.

So if you need Testing and reports back let me know, it will be a pleasure for me to help for ML.
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dfort

If you go to the build log for the crop_rec experimental builds you'll see that the build is from a branch called, "5D3.113-crop3x-april-1st-edition" which isn't in the main repository as far as I can tell.

There is an April 1st easter egg in the code but it has nothing to do with this topic--except maybe if it is April 1st.

You're using an 840mm with a tele converter in 3x crop mode? Whoa!

There are lots of reasons to use the 1.2.3 firmware, this is what Canon says about the update from 1.1.3 to 1.2.3:

QuoteChanges in Version 1.2.3:
1. Fixes a phenomenon in which the flash may not fire depending on the timing of when the shutter button is pressed.
2. Fixes a phenomenon in which the AF microadjustment value may change.
3. Fixes a phenomenon in which the LCD monitor may show a line of false color along boundaries of high contrast.
4. Fixes a phenomenon in which the histogram of a LiveView image is incorrectly displayed when an HDMI cable is connected.
5. Enables the brightness of the camera's LCD monitor to be adjusted even when an HDMI cable is connected.

Changes in Version 1.2.1:
1. Uncompressed HDMI output is now enabled.
2. Enables the center AF point to autofocus when the camera is used with Canon EF lens/extender combinations whose combined maximum aperture is f/8.
3. Improves the speed of the camera's acquisition of focus when using a Canon Speedlite's AF-assist beam.
4. Fixes a phenomenon in which the LCD monitor may freeze and display Err 70 or Err 80 when a still photo is taken during Live View or in movie shooting mode.
5. Fixes a phenomenon that may occur when the continuous shooting priority setting is enabled for multiple exposures, such that, after the sixth image is taken, there is a slight pause before the remainder of the sequence is completed.
6. Fixes a phenomenon in which the viewfinder display shows incorrect information during AEB shooting.
7. Communication with the WFT-E7 Wireless File Transmitter has been improved.
8. When images have been successfully transferred with the WFT-E7 Wireless File Transmitter through the FTP protocol, an "O" will be displayed. When images have not been successfully transferred with the WFT-E7 Wireless File Transmitter through the FTP protocol, an "X" will be displayed.
9. Fixes a phenomenon in which the camera may not function properly when an Eye-Fi card is used.
10. Fixes a phenomenon in which the focal length value listed in the Exif information is not displayed correctly for images shot with the EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM lens.
11. Fixes a phenomenon in which the lens firmware cannot be updated properly.
12. Corrects errors in the Arabic language menu.
13. Fixes a phenomenon in which the camera changes the AF microadjustment value to -8.
14. Fixes a phenomenon in which the on-screen guidance cannot be fully displayed when setting the maximum limit value for the "Setting the ISO Speed Range for Auto ISO" option.

The part about tele extenders and lenses with maximum apertures of f/8 might be affecting you.

If you do find an issue in 1.2.3 it would be a good test to see if you can reproduce it in 1.1.3.

budafilms

@NoCp_Albert

Share something for watch!!!! Very interesting!


NoCp_Albert

@A1lex and dfort

I like to test this Module magiclantern-raw_video_10bit_12bit_crop_rec.2016Dec24.5D3113 also on the 5D3-123 Firmware, where can I find this Test module. In the new https://builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html is only the crop module from September 2016 which I use normally because it works perfect. I found one modified Crop Module from dfort - magiclantern-crop_rec.2016Dec28.5D3123.zip which includes the 5x centered Crop from @A1lex but without the possibility to go down with the Bit rate it is useless. The 3xcrop mode works exactly like the crop modules from September 2016. I understand, that most Modules are made for normally Videos and not for Nature documentaries, but maybe I can get the last mixed Crop with 10, 12,14 Bit for Testing on the Canon 5D3-123 Firmware as well to test it.

@A1lex:
If possible I like to find on the Experimental raw video recording site also a testing file for 10, 12, 14 Bid recording with 5D3 – 123 Firmware.

@dfort: at the moment I test your magiclantern-raw_video_10bit_12bit.2017Jan05.5D3123, my biggest Problem is the 5x centered Crop, because it is not centered. When I switch from normal to 5x centered Crop the AF point is moved like in the old Modules and not useable at all, If I an hurry during recording and get different AF points I lousing the trust in my one work and later the footage is not useable at all. In your Crop Module from 28 December with the included 5x centered Crop the AF works centered in all Crop modes.

And hier some more Video proposual how shows how importand the Crop mode for some Useres is. https://youtu.be/MR65CQAaP6A


EOS 5D3 -113,-123, EOS 7D2, EOS 400, Lens EF16-35 f4 L, EF35 f2 IS, EF85 f1.8, EF 24-105 f4 L, EF 100-400 L II, EF 600 f4 L, Samyang 14mm f2.8, Canon Tc 1,4III, Kenko Tc 1,4 DGC

a1ex

Added builds for 5D3 1.1.3, 1.2.3 and EOS M 2.0.2, including 10/12-bit raw video support, to the Experiments page.

Unfortunately they are 100% untested => please report.

RenatoPhoto

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Thank you A1lex!  You are the man!

Testing: magiclantern-crop3x.2017Jan12.5D3123
mlv_rec and mlv_sound modules missing.. not done yet I suspect!

Working beautifully.. here are underexposed samples.  Post process at +4EV
Note that BlackFix 2048 give skin tones and eye color similar to 14 bit

14 bit:


12 bit:


10 bit:


10bit BlackFix 2040:


10 bit BlackFix2048:


Final Comparison 10 vs 14 bit and BlackFix:


I am Preparing a video of my garden at 10 bits...
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