Author Topic: 1D X II (Read 26402 times)

SiSS · « **on:** January 30, 2016, 09:46:58 AM »

Here next week.

Speculation, leeks and rumors for specifications have been going for so long, that the list has tighten up.
Consensus seems to be that it'll arrive as 20.2MP camera.

Which is great. 2016 and the larger photosites of Alev III still rule the world. Also 5D3 which supposed to be overrun by now, is still more than relevant.
That 20MP suggest that the image out of this beast will be exceptional.

Now, 4k with CFast cards, the RAW from 1DX II would be amazing.

Which brings us back to the dead horse.
(Yes I've read the old posts).

Allegedly, Canon once tread with legal action against ML if touching 1D, this of couse was probably just internet horse shit.
Also one argument for not going for 1D X ML was that only for few ML users would have that, so it wasn't worth it(?!)
And lastly, who would provide expensive camera for ML testing?

Well, many who are still in the game, are thinking of going the next level cameras anyway.
Also, we got linux now! MLVProducer! It's exploration, science! And what was the original thought behind ML...

So... I know you are interested.

P.S. Please no lazy replies about Apertus Axiom. That's nothing away from ML.

Walter Schulz · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2016, 11:10:55 AM »

Devs decided some time ago not to mess with Canon's pro gear. You will never see ML for 1D and C. Period.

g3gg0 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 31, 2016, 01:18:49 AM »

word!

budafilms · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2016, 07:29:09 AM »

New 5D it´s highly probably got 4K

Keep in press ...

http://www.canonrumors.com/announcing-the-canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii/

Danne · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2016, 01:03:00 PM »

Exfat support

Levas · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2016, 04:06:08 PM »

No doubt 4K ML raw would be amazing
Now some numbers

4096 x 2160 resolution in 24 frames per second in 14 bit raw = 3000Mbps
That is about 0.4GB per second, 22 GB for 1 minute video

Anyone who is planning to go over the 30 minute recording time limit needs to find a compact flash card with 1024GB of memory

SiSS · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2016, 04:49:58 PM »

Well i'm not planning for 30 minute takes

But yeah maybe few years more before 4k raw pipeline.
Still i'd like to start testing

goldenchild9to5 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2016, 08:49:57 PM »

This camera looks really promising.. now with this camera announced will it be the end for the 1Dc don't see how it would come back from those 1Dx specs unless it has internal 4k RAW recording.

SiSS · « **Reply #8 on:** February 02, 2016, 06:06:47 PM »

That 5999$ doesn't in fact sound that bad. I was expecting lot more (just compare to Leica).
Raven will set you back about 12000 euros before it's in working order, but this ones going to be better for most of the time...

Newsshooter has nice Hands On test, including Canon Australias video capablities test
http://www.newsshooter.com/2016/02/02/canon-launch-4k-eos-1d-x-mkii-professional-dslr-we-go-hands-on-testing-the-touch-screen-af/

Goodbye clumsy Follow Focus

EOS-1D X Mark II 4K Video Capabilities Test With Abraham Joffe

B&H Photo has another Hans On as seen in canonrumors

kgv5 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 02, 2016, 07:00:58 PM »

I cannot find this info anywhere: is 1080p 100/120fps mode cropped like a7sII or C300markII or is it still full frame image? The only crop they mention is 1,3x with 4K.

EDIT: 120fps is full frame, no crop. Great

reddeercity · « **Reply #10 on:** February 03, 2016, 01:03:12 AM »

Official Canon Video

Quote

Join Canon U.S.A.’s Technical Advisor Brent Ramsey as he introduces the video features of the EOS-1D X Mark II camera.
In this video, he discusses features such as the 4K capture, movie Frames Per Second, resolutions, JPEG frame grabs,
Dual Pixel CMOS Autofocus, and more!

I give 2 Thumbs up !

KelvinK · « **Reply #11 on:** February 03, 2016, 03:37:51 PM »

Form factor isn't the best for travel cinema camera

4k with MJPEG will need re-encoding for on-fly edit and 60p files will be so huge - bigger & expensive CFAST2 cards needed.

mothaibaphoto · « **Reply #12 on:** February 03, 2016, 05:01:05 PM »

And mjpeg is the only way to get 4k out of it, since HDMI HD only

Canon at it's best

SiSS · « **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2016, 08:29:53 PM »

HDMI at it's best.
Sure you can do it, but why? CFast good enough for Amira and Alexa Mini.
4K recorders ain't the freeride either.
And if you're in such a hurry, shouldn't HD be enough... I mean 4K is just 4k, why not buy GH4 or iPhone.

The proper way is 6G-SDI and that's a different price bracket.

I love that CFast card!
We have to have that in the next 5D -camera.

SiSS · « **Reply #14 on:** February 03, 2016, 08:31:12 PM »

P.S. What is a "travel cinema camera" anyway?

nikfreak · « **Reply #15 on:** February 03, 2016, 10:50:09 PM »

Am I wrong or is Canon in need to announce also some pro-lenses featuring IS & STM? 24-105 IS STM wouldn't really fit the body in terms of quality, right?

KelvinK · « **Reply #16 on:** February 04, 2016, 12:50:43 PM »

Quote from: SiSS on February 03, 2016, 08:31:12 PM

P.S. What is a "travel cinema camera" anyway?

7DM2 with non-existed MLRAW installed

DjJuvan · « **Reply #17 on:** February 04, 2016, 02:59:49 PM »

Why the hell does it have cropped (1.3x) image when shooting 4K.

This could really be perfect allrounder photo/video camera.

KelvinK · « **Reply #18 on:** February 04, 2016, 03:37:56 PM »

All around brick 1.5kg? oO

DjJuvan · « **Reply #19 on:** February 04, 2016, 03:50:26 PM »

Currently I'm using a7s with atomos shogun and this aint easy too (sony npf970 battery weights alot). But much more clumsy because of cables and short life of batteries from sony. Tell me, what's better then?

itsDPmikey · « **Reply #20 on:** February 28, 2016, 07:38:07 PM »

If the 5D Mark4 does not have Cfast option, then it's going to be an absolute shit situation. I'm pretty sure it will have 4K option with only 24fps probably.

But even if we get raw 2.5k continuous shooting on CFast card in 5DM4 with all the current features it will be amazing. Till this day I can't seem to find a an MLbuild that doesn't produce bad frames or frame skipp even with 1080p 24fps on fastest CF card. Drives me bananaZZZ!

Walter Schulz · « **Reply #21 on:** February 28, 2016, 07:41:44 PM »

Quoting you about 4 days ago:
" I downgraded to 1.1.3 from 03/27/2014 and everything just works BEAUTIFULLY!"

itsDPmikey · « **Reply #22 on:** February 29, 2016, 01:28:51 AM »

Quote from: Walter Schulz on February 28, 2016, 07:41:44 PM

Quoting you about 4 days ago:
" I downgraded to 1.1.3 from 03/27/2014 and everything just works BEAUTIFULLY!"

yes until 2nd and 3rd shoot I started to see some issues again. So I upgraded back to 1.1.3 latest build. It's w.e at this point, too frustrating to care anymore. Just going to shoot regular until I buy a red dragon. I just can't risk getting bad frames on a professional job when time matters and reshooting is not possible.

extremelypoorfilmaker · « **Reply #23 on:** February 29, 2016, 07:52:56 PM »

If anyone who is using magic lantern chipped in with £10 each we could buy a C100 and a C300 to the devs to develop Magic Lantern for those cameras.. And then we could share them!

Spoiler alert: I am joking

Kharak · « **Reply #24 on:** February 29, 2016, 11:30:56 PM »

Quote from: itsDPmikey on February 29, 2016, 01:28:51 AM

yes until 2nd and 3rd shoot I started to see some issues again. So I upgraded back to 1.1.3 latest build. It's w.e at this point, too frustrating to care anymore. Just going to shoot regular until I buy a red dragon. I just can't risk getting bad frames on a professional job when time matters and reshooting is not possible.

Try disabling ML Focus Peaking and set RAW zebras to OFF while recording.

You can still use Focus Peaking from Digic Peaking and add 7+ Sharpness. None of which will be in the final image.

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Author Topic: 1D X II (Read 26402 times)