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chmee

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2015, 12:26:43 PM »
A C300 Successor is rumored - falling in price as well to compete with the Sony FS7.

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2015, 09:14:27 PM »

@KelvinK


A headphone socket, for monitoring audio, is not included.

- In a professional set, you have to monitoring from an amplifier, not the camera. I never worked with a good monitoring in a video camera.

Why they should bother to add 4k then?

- In my opinion if Canon loose a lot of market - DSRL are cheaper for the video market demand, not the photographers - they could add features like they do with 7D a year ago. And remember the firmware where they add to Mark III the uncompressed HDMI, and more features.

They move pieces after Nikon do. Now they have the white ones with 50 Mp.

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2015, 12:25:50 AM »

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2015, 12:35:44 PM »
That reporter did not take advantage of asking the relevant questions to the man with all the answers.
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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2015, 12:43:24 PM »
The man with all the answers yes  8)
But I doubt if he may answer all questions, some stuff will still be confidential  :-\

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #57 on: February 25, 2015, 10:16:34 PM »
Here is some video, looks nice IMO, seems more detailed than 5d3 h264.
5ds may be an interesting option for high res stills and decent quality 1080p video, if somebody doesnt need 4k... Video is better than i expected after hearing all those things about only-photo oriented cam and not carrying about video quality at all...


www.pilotmovies.pl   5D Mark III, 6D, 550D

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #58 on: February 26, 2015, 07:04:14 AM »
I was comparing Mark III with the new 5D S/R
and I've found that the new models have a  UHS-I Card,

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_5ds#Specifications

that in Lexar site said that can record to 104 Mb/s

http://es.lexar.com/support/preguntas-frecuentes-sobre-sdhcsdxc-uhs-i

If we use spanning files with the old CF card plus the new SD cards, I think probably we can duplicate the data recording.

And if ML can works in the new 5D, Canon, absolutely - they know ML better than us - have put a door into more RAW resolution for us.

It's my imagination?

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #59 on: February 26, 2015, 07:19:46 AM »
My cam has UHS-I, too. And it is limited to about 40 MByte/s writing.
Wait and see if they used the interface introduced with 7D2.  http://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/canon-7d-mark-ii/fastest-sd-cf-card-comparison/
Promising, indeed but always remember g3gg0's warning about math applied to computing: 1 + 1 < 2 . And with bad luck it may give you 0.9 ...

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2015, 09:19:16 AM »
Good link @Walter.

Appear to be a relation between fps/s in raw, sensor size and the speed of both cards in each camera.

My speculation is:

If 5D mark III

27 MB x 5fps = 135MB (CF Card 100 + SD 20)

Then, 5D S

50 MB x 4fps = 200 Mega/s

In the worst case scenary, if new 5D have the same SD Card from Rebel Model, it's around 40 MB/s speed - vs. actually 20.







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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2015, 10:07:18 PM »
Very rough DR estimation, from http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-5ds-r/canon-5ds-rA7.HTM

E5DSRhSLI00100NR0.CR2 (ISO 100):
- max value: 14733
- OB stdev: 5.8
- DR per pixel: log2(14733) - log2( 5.8 ) = 11.3 EV
- DR normalized to 8 MPix: log2(14733) - log2( 5.8 ) + log2(sqrt(8688*5792) / sqrt(8e6)) = 12.64 EV.

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #62 on: October 05, 2015, 04:05:46 AM »
I am looking to buy a Canon 5dsR and I wonder if is scheduled to leave the magic lantern for these new models.

Thank you

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2015, 06:57:45 AM »
There is no schedule. Act like there will be no ML port for these cams ever.

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #64 on: December 11, 2015, 07:09:13 PM »
I wonder if there is a way I could dump the firmware from my 5DS without any disassembly required... I'm not so keen on taking apart a camera worth that many $$$ to jtag it...

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #65 on: December 11, 2015, 07:13:27 PM »
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Who said firmware dumps are requiring physical disassembly?
Contact a1ex if you want to start porting.

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #66 on: January 24, 2016, 11:08:12 PM »
Hello everybody, my first post here!  :)

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There is no schedule. Act like there will be no ML port for these cams ever.

It is a shame, since it seems that the 5Ds has superior video quality compared to the 5D MkIII.

We did some music videos couple of months ago, using both cameras simultaneously.
Since there is no ML for the 5Ds and we needed similar functionality from both cameras, we just used Marvel Cine picture style.

5Ds footage was cleaner, sharper and more detailed, closer to the real 1080 resolution and there was no aliasing visible.

After many Internet opinions that 5Ds is not good for video, we have used it as a second camera.
At the end we were surprised by the results (we expected 5D MkIII to be better)
and now we are sorry that we didn't use the 5Ds as the main camera.

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #67 on: January 25, 2016, 04:01:40 AM »
Post and compare results?
5D3.113 | 5D3.123 | EOSM.203 | 7D.203 | 70D.112 | 100D.101 | EOSM2.* | 50D.109

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #68 on: January 28, 2016, 02:44:52 AM »
I'm affraid I can't.
This was a commercial job and I'm not free to share screenshots on public forums without client's permission.

Fortunately, it is possible to rent both cameras and to do the comparison.

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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2016, 09:23:26 AM »
Major price drop, from 3699$ to 2399$ new on Ebay. Doesn't look people want to buy it that much. Oh, Canon, Canon...
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Re: New 5D S and R version
« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2016, 10:22:02 AM »
reasonable inference: there's no much demand on canon cameras without ML installed :) sad but true.
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