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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3350 on: May 14, 2019, 02:14:41 PM »
There seems to be a disconnect here. Walter is saying dont fps override, and Andy is doing it to get 2.5k continuous @2:35.1 with 5X.  Am I missing something?

The fps at 30, happens automatically whenever you select 5X. 
So clearly Andy has a trick to get the fps on menu & adjusted back to 23.9 fps.
Whats up wid that?
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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3351 on: May 14, 2019, 02:42:31 PM »
Think he goes into advanced and change the A-timer. Try that.

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3352 on: May 14, 2019, 03:48:40 PM »
Think he goes into advanced and change the A-timer. Try that.
yeah danne is right. you can lower to any fps by changing the timer A

i wish timer B also works

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3353 on: May 14, 2019, 11:27:09 PM »
As of now i hv two builds in two different cards. One is build by Arczipl. This build doesnt seem to work the uhs sd hack in my initial test so i replace with danne's ush sd hack that run with lua script.
It works for me flawless. What do you do exactly?

You have to go to Debug menu and activate it manually. Combining my build with Dannes autorun script won't work out of the box, as they were not meant to work together. However, you can adapt the script easily -> just replace the menu option name "MAY CAUSE DATA LOSS" with "160MHz fixed". That's what appears in the menu, to easily distinguish which version is loaded.
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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3354 on: May 15, 2019, 03:20:59 AM »
@Arczipl  i did exactly wat you said but it didnt work. I think it crash twice if i remember
I replace the uhs sd and the lua in modules and add his script and it works flawlessly. I need not activate manually everythime i start my camera

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3355 on: May 15, 2019, 03:37:00 AM »
I only find fps override on exper build,
magiclantern-Nightly.2019Mar15.70D112_crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_lossless_fps_override_experimental

The problem is that at 2.5k it only runs for 5s, or 150 frames.  There is no overclocking ??? to change the write speed. Also the Timer , will not take 5X back to 23.9 fps.

So what gives?
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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3356 on: May 15, 2019, 12:09:01 PM »
I only find fps override on exper build,
magiclantern-Nightly.2019Mar15.70D112_crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_lossless_fps_override_experimental

The problem is that at 2.5k it only runs for 5s, or 150 frames.  There is no overclocking ???

you read what ArcziPL just said. you have to go to debug in Ml menu scroll down...
you wil see something like this  "MAY CAUSE DATA LOSS" with "160MHz fixed
press ok to activate.

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3357 on: May 15, 2019, 12:12:02 PM »
to change the write speed. Also the Timer , will not take 5X back to 23.9 fps.

first go to 5X and set to your desired fps


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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3358 on: May 16, 2019, 12:57:59 AM »
   Regarding My earlier Post #3346 > Even though it seems that No One Cares >

Virtually Identical results using > "magiclantern-Nightly.2019Mar15.70D112_crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_lossless_fps_override_experimental"

+ "08May19 "lua.mo" + "08May19 "sd_uhs.mo" + "01Apr19 "SDoverclock.lua" >

Using > "crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd_isogain_1x3_presets_2019May12.70D112" >

The 1st 2 Scenarios are Virt' Same but >

Start Cam in Stills & Go to Vid'Mode  OR  Start Cam in Vid'Mode, Then ML Benchmark >

   Get >    19.5MB/s Write    Errors Read
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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3359 on: May 16, 2019, 06:02:48 AM »
Using "magiclantern-Nightly.2019Mar15.70D112_crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_lossless_fps_override_experimental"

Was able to get 2560 @ 2.35.1 23.9p 12bit raw lossless continuous in 5X.  Global was off, generally.  Very slow playback.

Was able to get 1920 @ 2.35.1 59.9p 12bit raw lossless continuous in 5X.  Global was off, generally.  Extremely slow playback (1minute clip takes about 5 minutes). 

In 5X you only have centre box focus, no facial recog., Without focus peaks it brings into question MF choices. But the picture is gorgeous in detail and depth, it feels like the LCD is maxed out.

I notice it showed centre for box location (5X), but it was actually off to the right third of full screen (1X). 

If you put global back on, screen loads up with "fix me: malloc errors", and even more if you keep pressing buttons to virtually entire screen.

To make this practical, need global on with rgb & focus peaks and ofcourse errors disabled. The playback needs to occur much faster else 60p is too painful.

Also with 5X my Tokina 11-16mm 2.8 starts to become the goto lens. Ok 18mm on the Sigma 18-35mm never sucks either, its just 5X is a lot.

3X mode with 1864 @ 2.35.1 23.9p 12bit raw lossless continuous, this mode has no moire and will also work same for 60p. 3X loses the AF features. 

In regular 1X, 1832 @ 16.9 23.9p 14bit lossless continuous, this mode has full AF capabilities touch screen focus. (the  60p of same is probably continuous I stopped it after 34s but should test to see if it keeps going to say a minute).  The picture is gorgeous, and uses most of the LCD screen.  This mode is rather sexy and for most straightforward shooting a useful mode, having near 1080p @ 16.9 24 to 60p, in 14bit raw lessens my 5DIII desire.  This closest to a broadcast TV quality picture (its not quite 1080p resolution but exceeds TV colour of 10bit). 

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3360 on: May 16, 2019, 07:13:48 AM »
Using "magiclantern-Nightly.2019Mar15.70D112_crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_lossless_fps_override_experimental"
Was able to get 1920 @ 2.35.1 59.9p 12bit raw lossless continuous in 5X.  Global was off, generally.  Extremely slow playback (1minute clip takes about 5 minutes).

i dont think you can shoot 60fps in 5X mode. no matter whatever your setting is in canon menu when u zoom in 5X it wil change to 30fps

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3361 on: May 16, 2019, 02:50:01 PM »
i dont think you can shoot 60fps in 5X mode. no matter whatever your setting is in canon menu when u zoom in 5X it will change to 30fps

Probably right, my 60s test was around 1700+ frames.  That suggests 30p. But in ML it prior to start fps override shows 59.9p.  I get there by selecting 1280 60p, from Q menu, adjust resolution. 

Another thing I recall from my days of using 5X, was that its only 5X on the LCD, but the actual frame is 3X.  Hence the framing mismatch comment.  5X is like a magic zoom for the LCD.   

 
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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3362 on: May 16, 2019, 10:27:44 PM »
Didn't realize that you got your 70D alive gain @OlRivrRat. Nice!
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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3363 on: May 17, 2019, 07:15:08 AM »
                     @ NikFreak

           Yup ~ Twas about a month ago it arrived back from Canon Repair, having been sent to Them hoping to get it

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3364 on: May 17, 2019, 02:41:31 PM »
Shooting 60p raw works with fps override. The problem is the playback takes about 5 (or more) times as long to process the clip. So one really needs overclocking for play back.  You need to use in camera playback for focus checks, so until overclocking works on playback, the fps override is effectively crippled.  No one will routinely wait 5 minutes (or more) to view a 1 minute clip. On the bright side, we have fps override! Overclocking works!  We just have to integrate this into play back.   
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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3365 on: May 17, 2019, 05:15:24 PM »
Shooting 60p raw works with fps override. 
shoooting 60p raw works with every build in normal mode.  you dont need fps override for this. as i have said earlier that fps override can only decrease fps but cant increase on 70D atleast for now

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3366 on: May 17, 2019, 05:26:49 PM »
really needs overclocking for play back.  You need to use in camera playback for focus checks,
press half shutter preview wil change to real time so you can focus easily. playback in realtime in camera is not possible.

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3367 on: May 18, 2019, 12:54:42 AM »
Hi , hope to be easy , i just want to ask a too simple and too important question

I have 70D and i want to:
-Raw video
-Focus Features in magic lantern

and I saw 135 pages here ,I  tried to read but,,,

I just want to know If that any problem in current build for 70d ?

and may flash ML brick camera ( I mean True Stories) ?

Thanks you too much

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3368 on: May 18, 2019, 02:39:58 AM »
      @ShootMeAlready

"Using "magiclantern-Nightly.2019Mar15.70D112_crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_lossless_fps_override_experimental"

Was able to get 2560 @ 2.35.1 23.9p 12bit raw lossless continuous in 5X.  Global was off, generally."

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3369 on: May 18, 2019, 11:43:51 PM »
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   Just checked 70D & it appears as though Split Screen Focussing Within Magic Zoom is Not available on 70D ~

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3370 on: May 19, 2019, 12:17:26 PM »
Hi , hope to be easy , i just want to ask a too simple and too important question

I have 70D and i want to:
-Raw video
-Focus Features in magic lantern
I just want to know If that any problem in current build for 70d ?
no problem

you dont need to read all 300 pages but try to read last few pages to know more about recent development if you want to shoot 3k ml raw video

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3371 on: May 19, 2019, 03:06:42 PM »
no problem

you dont need to read all 300 pages but try to read last few pages to know more about recent development if you want to shoot 3k ml raw video


I had read  it yes , and I'am little Confused


https://builds.magiclantern.fm

Here Nightly builds , for 70D the last file called  ( magiclantern-Nightly.2018Dec24.70D112)
that's mean it's updated in 2018 , and last few page here there are versions updated in couples days ago
I Don't what's right , I just want to shoot raw with little tricks like waveform and small stuff not complicated
and of course most safety , is version here less stable and non tested , and nightly builds is tested ?
Too appropriate to you for your help 
Can you help me to choose the right version and give me a Link for best versoin and testes , I mean Most Stable And Do small Stuff like focusing etc.
and all of these problems in this pages (Codes and other stuff) , Can i suffer from any of them if I just shoot raw (Not too high resolution like 4k or bit rate , 10 or 11 enough for me) And use Waveform Or False Color?
Thanks you

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3372 on: May 19, 2019, 03:42:25 PM »
https://bitbucket.org/ArcziPL/magic-lantern/downloads/magiclantern-Nightly.2019Mar07.70D112_crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_lossless.zip

try this. you can shoot in lossless if you want small file size
report back if you find any problems.

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3373 on: May 19, 2019, 04:33:21 PM »
https://bitbucket.org/ArcziPL/magic-lantern/downloads/magiclantern-Nightly.2019Mar07.70D112_crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_lossless.zip

try this. you can shoot in lossless if you want small file size
report back if you find any problems.

Thank you too much

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Re: Canon 70D
« Reply #3374 on: May 21, 2019, 03:54:01 PM »
      @ShootMeAlready

"Using "magiclantern-Nightly.2019Mar15.70D112_crop_rec_4k_mlv_lite_lossless_fps_override_experimental"

Was able to get 2560 @ 2.35.1 23.9p 12bit raw lossless continuous in 5X.  Global was off, generally."

   Here I Go Again > So What do You suppose I am doing wrong > The most I can get, & I get it consistently, is 7Sec's ~

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       Update > Switching WhiteBalance from Auto to 5200K allows capture of 11Sec's ~

Sounds like you need to engage the overclocking.
- Select ML raw video modules, sd_uhs, and crop (the crop was disabled but I selected it anyways ... superstitious) 
- Select ML raw resoultion 2560 at 2.35.1 aspect, with framing
- in  ML turn global off
- in ML, Sd overclock at 160 MB/s, need to override the warning
- go back check your resolution message, it should be green (or flicker from red to green, I did not always see solid green)
If not reselect the overclock,
- In liveview, on Q menu select 24 fps, ensure AF is not set to facial tracking, I suggest single box
- In liveview, on what is by default the * button on back hit until 5X
- Press liveview, and it may go red, yellow, green, but after about 30s the red disappears.

When you are pre-focus the half-shutter press effects focus/liveview update (play with it)

Hope this helps

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