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niciz

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Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« on: October 26, 2014, 08:04:21 PM »
Dear forum-specialists

I have a huge problem: I installed the nightly-build the same way this video ( shows except for the reinstalling canon firmware part. Having that done, things started going wrong: first, the red LED of the 7D didn't blink even once after turning off and after restarting some kind of a hybrid between canon and magic lantern appeared. If I put in an unformatted cf-card in the camera, it won't even turn on.

I'm very desperate and already lost my faith in this risky business.
I now just want my old camera back as fast as possible so please help if you know how to.
And as I'm not a native speaker, please answer in easy understandable english.

Thank you!

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2014, 08:09:04 PM »
Remove battery.
Format card using a card reader.
Make sure battery is charged.
Insert card into cam.
Insert battery.
Startup.
Results?

And it doesn't make sense to load *all* modules at once.

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2014, 08:37:18 PM »
Update: I managed to reinstall canon 2.0.3 via another cf-card.
I formatted the other card with ML on and put it back in but camera screen stays black. How do I make that one working again.

(thanks for answering Walter!)

Other thing is: With the working card in, the black and white display on top starts much slower than without cf-card. I'm not sure if it has already been like that before the incident, but still kind of see this as proof for an "overwritten ML file" still being in the camera. Am I totally wrong?

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 08:44:04 PM »
You need 3 things to run ML:
Camera with bootflag set
Bootable card
ML dir and files (esp. AUTOEXEC.BIN) on card

Cam's bootflag is responsible for 1-2 seconds delay at startup/wake up from sleep.
Cam's bootflag will remain set and has to be uninstalled if unwanted.

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 08:49:04 PM »
Thank you.

But I actually don't want to run ML anymore. Do I need to reinstall it to get rid of this bootflag (please explain what this is:S)?

And I wish you a happy birthday for your ML-Account, which was first used exactly 2 years ago!:)

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 08:54:05 PM »
Yes, you have to run installation again and follow the instructions. Wait 30 seconds after completion to get rid of ML.

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2014, 09:01:38 PM »
Please tell what the bootflag is. Otherwise I can't get started.

And where should I do the reinstall on? On the still working one (which I don't want to wreck) or on the currently not working one?

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 09:04:32 PM »
Top of page -> User Guide -> Installation Guide

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2014, 09:06:00 PM »
I don't even find out on Google. I just need a one sentence phrase. Is it something I will just find in the menu to disable?

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2014, 09:06:47 PM »
Run
installation
again

EDIT: Google search for "uninstall magic lantern" gives 12.600 matches.

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2014, 09:21:52 PM »
Walter please be patient, I'm almost crying because of desperation.

The situation is: Both cards are now usable. With one it says canon firmware 2.0.3 and the other one says nightly-built...
BUT both operating systems look absolutely the SAME. If I press reinstall with the already ML one, nothing changes.

Do you understand that I don't want to waste the other cf-card as well? I'm afraid it will also not be reversible once ML is installed.

Maybe that all has something to do with me turning it on too fast when the red light didn't blink after the first installation. what could possibly happen if you turn it on to soon?

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2014, 09:27:58 PM »
<sigh>
If you would have read FAQs and understood my second post you would be aware that ML is loaded from the card. If there is no ML enabled card you are running in a pure Canon environment. Therefore the firmware info will tell you're running Canon's firmware. If ML is loaded firmware information will tell you're running ML.

If all conditions are met to run ML: You're running ML
If not: You're not running ML.

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2014, 09:38:49 PM »
Thank you.
but that answers only half of my questions. Something strange is happening in my example: there are some features from ML in the canon firmware like little numbers indicating battery status in the window after you press the Q-Button. Reinstalling the card didn't change anything, I still can't uninstall or anything as it is not available in the canon firmware. Have you ever encountered a similar case?

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2014, 09:41:12 PM »
Your native language is?

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2014, 09:42:11 PM »
german

walter schulz sounds quite german, too

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2014, 09:45:50 PM »
Nimm die Karte auf der ML installiert ist, starte damit die Kamera und mach ein Firmware Update. Warte nach "Sucess" 30 Sekunden und ML ist deinstalliert.

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2014, 09:51:10 PM »
Alter Schwede, wenn ich das gewusst hätte. Nun habe ich doch noch die Bootflag gefunden. Echt tausend Dank! Etwas mehr Geduld hättest du dennoch zeigen dürfen. Mich würde es dennoch gerne interessieren, weshalb bei mir nur das "halbe ML" angezeigt wurde.

Grüsse aus der Schweiz

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2014, 09:55:47 PM »
Geduld?
Ist das das, was man Anwendern abverlangen darf, wenn sie nicht die FAQs/Guides lesen? <eg>

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2014, 09:59:07 PM »
Glaubst du, ich lese noch 53 Seiten FAQ's durch wenn mir nebenan meine sau teure 7D vor die Hunde geht?

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Re: Help! Something went terribly wrong with my 7D
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2014, 10:06:29 PM »
Ja. Wer das Risiko eingeht, seine Kamera zu schrotten und dann hinterher darueber klagt, dass ihm seine Kamera zu wertvoll fuer dieses Risiko ist, muss sich schon fragen lassen, was man sich denn bei dem Experiment gedacht hat. Es ist ja nicht so, dass man die Warnhinweise versteckt, die sich mit dem Gebrauch von Nightly Builds (bzw. ML allgemein) ergeben.
Ich zitiere: "No guarantees - if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces."