5D3: 1.1.3 vs 1.2.3 Slow Mo Record Times

[a1ex]

So, you have got:
- roughly the same result in playback mode
- consistently slower results in 1.2.3 in LiveView mode

So far, all the tests indicate a higher overhead in LiveView for 1.2.3 (probably because of dual monitor support).

This is really ugly - I want to get rid of the 1.1.3 branch, but I guess it's not a good idea if the difference in recording times is significant.

Same with RAW vs MLV...

[DeafEyeJedi]

@a1ex I guess that tells me that my card is somewhat not up to par as it should be? Although I ran into an interesting surprise with a pattern occurring during testing in 25p/1080 MLV (w Audio enabled) it gives me a pop-up window indicating 'Card full?' at the 7:55 (7 minutes and 55 seconds) mark... not sure if it's this is related to the limitations of the KB card that I'm using or it's due to the stress of using 25p/1080 mode?

Tried this all four times in a row (twice w card warm-up @ 16mb & twice w-out) and all came out with pretty much the same results...

My gut is telling me to return the KB 128gb 1066x for two 64gb 1066x (but then again I would compensate for the practical size of 128gb.

Argh!

Off I go with testing in 30p/1080 -- to be continue...

[Danne]

+1 for keeping 1.1.3 and raw.

[jose_ugs]

+1 for keeping 1.1.3... even if its just for the slow mo video. I have also experienced a huge difference with 1.2.3 and went back, just for the 50/60fps performance

[DeafEyeJedi]

Thanks @Danne & @jose_ugs for the +1 inputs and that was exactly what i have decided to do last night.

Stick w 1.1.3 & use RAW over MLV (unless Audio is neccessary) regardless of the 50/60p options.

ALSO I'm still on the fence with this KB 128gb 1066x card -- chime in your thoughts?

SJ

[DeafEyeJedi]

Also @noisexx -- I was only able to locate aug 9th 2014 and aug 20th 2014 nightly builds to test the speed writing for 1.1.3... Where did you find your aug 10 2014 build from?

Unless it's more ideal to stick w the sept 26 2014 build (only because of the full_res silent module)

Thanks in advance!

[Danne]

You should try out some limits by finding sweet spots with your card. Mlv with sound 25fps I think was mine with my card 1920x1080(It has been a while since trying). I think I can get my hardware in camera run up to around 110mb tops in raw 3x mode on my card but often my card has to be warmed up and more often it will cruise around 104-105. These are of course not exact measures but I,m confident that my card isn,t the limitation but hardware. (transcend 1000x 128gb card). Also I tend to use mostly 3x crop and dual iso with liveview turned of with raw to get some really good aspect ratios. Slowmo I think I was around 16:9 1728 x (can,t remember) live view turned of to get continouos. Kudos a1ex for keeping the 1.1.3 and raw alive.

[DeafEyeJedi]

Just ran a test with this KB 128gb 1066x card that was pushing 110.6mb's recording in 3x crop mode 25p 2.5k x 1090 MLV (hacked preview & card warm up) for continuous over 3-4 minutes without skipping on 1.1.3 -- Not bad at all!

[Danne]

Sounds like a good card. You shot in mlv? Should be even longer recording times with raw then?

[DeafEyeJedi]

Correct on RAW @Danne will type up a stat sheet of all different fps settings (w and w/o hack) for time varies comparisons regarding KB 128gb 1066x hopefully soon!

[paisleybrew]

Hey guys

I know I'm messaging in an old thread but I have a question that I'd like clarity on.

Is 1.1.3 best for write speeds with mlv and raw? Including audio? I'm a bit confused if 1.1.3 is better for just raw or mlv as well.

Thanks

[jose_ugs]

I speak from experience, and i believe it's mentioned in this thread: MLV (spanned) works a lot better (stable) on 1.1.3
This alone (and a few other) could be the main reason we'll end up having different branches 113, 123, etc...
I don't know what cards you got on you, but 1.1.3 is probably going to work better than 1.2.3.
Nuff said ?

[DeafEyeJedi]

Agreed.

[paisleybrew]

Thanks!

We have Lexar x1066 128GB and 256GB cards. Not sure if that makes a difference.

Could you elaborate what you mean in terms of spanned? Good to know that it is more stable on 1.1.3 as I recently installed that version. I'll have to do some proper tests to be sure though. What advantages does 1.2.3 have, then? HDMI out?

[beauchampy]

There's an option in the raw menu to enable 'spanning'. This will write some raw frames to the SD as well as the CF. So effectively you get the write speed of the CF + SD.

You simply pull the files into the same folder and convert as normal afterwards.

Thanks!

We have Lexar x1066 128GB and 256GB cards. Not sure if that makes a difference.

Could you elaborate what you mean in terms of spanned? Good to know that it is more stable on 1.1.3 as I recently installed that version. I'll have to do some proper tests to be sure though. What advantages does 1.2.3 have, then? HDMI out?

[KMikhail]

Apparently, your camera has to bee freed from other activities in order to take full advantage of spanning - GD should be fully OFF, hacked and it should be 1.1.3 with no hdmi output used.

[jose_ugs]

Apparently, your camera has to bee freed from other activities in order to take full advantage of spanning - GD should be fully OFF, hacked and it should be 1.1.3 with no hdmi output used.

Why's that? Most of us use spanning in order to use GD and peaking or zebras (for example) and have it all working smoothly...

[KMikhail]

Cause level of load of processing scales writes to cards. I can get continuous 1920*1080 @ 30fps with CF+SD, only when I disable pretty much everything, including rec blinking on LV. It is impressive (compared to what was otherwise), but not suitable for everything. When GD is on, combined CF+SD isn't that much different from CF alone (both fastest available). The definite advantage of CF+SD is max recording time - not terribly better, but always there.