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jotaa45

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EOS M RAW in 2019 against 4k options like a Panasonic G7
« on: September 01, 2019, 03:49:02 PM »
Hello everyone, this is my first time in the magic lantern forum and I wanted to ask you if it is worth it now in 2019 to buy an eos m with ml raw for making student short films or is it better to just buy something like a panasonic g7 or similar? I've seen the video quality in the eos m and it's impressive but I'm kind of afraid that the crop factor is too severe and that the kit lens loses all of its purpose making a 18mm into a 60mm. I tested the raw ml with my old t3i and I think I can get used to the raw workflow, my real problem is the crop factor and some possible errors during important shootings, just that. What do you guys think?

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Re: EOS M RAW in 2019 against 4k options like a Panasonic G7
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2019, 01:48:24 PM »
Not an expert in any way, but I've been using the EOS M for a few months now. The newest builds are VERY stable, I hardly ever get any errors (Danne is an absolute chad). Crop factor is tolerable, it's not as big of a deal with ML installed since some modes do full sensor read outs (I think) and you could always get focal reducers (tho I don't have one myself).

I'd say the real problem with ML on EOS M is having to get the right exposure, anything that's not EV .1-.9 in histogram is pretty shit with untolerable amounts of noise.

Getting something newer like a G7 or A7s would make your life a hell of a lot easier, but the M is an absolute beast for the price. Maybe you could spend the money saved from buying an M into buying lighting equipment. Cheers.

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Re: EOS M RAW in 2019 against 4k options like a Panasonic G7
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2019, 10:42:38 AM »
Hi! you can check Zeek's videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCn0RQHYheA41EudwmLnYKA he use an EOS M with ML.
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Re: EOS M RAW in 2019 against 4k options like a Panasonic G7
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2019, 03:12:21 PM »
I've seen the video quality in the eos m and it's impressive but I'm kind of afraid that the crop factor is too severe and that the kit lens loses all of its purpose making a 18mm into a 60mm.
Why that? Use 4K anamorphic mode to use (nearly) the full sensor width. Then you won't have (much) additional crop!
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Re: EOS M RAW in 2019 against 4k options like a Panasonic G7
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2019, 06:50:48 AM »
Why that? Use 4K anamorphic mode to use (nearly) the full sensor width. Then you won't have (much) additional crop!

Bingo. Spot on!

@Danne's Experimental ML Builds can be located here from this link for ML Capable Cameras including the M:

https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern/downloads/
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Re: EOS M RAW in 2019 against 4k options like a Panasonic G7
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2019, 11:59:10 AM »
@jotaa45
The 2x Crop on the G7 would be "severe". The EOS M is just ~ 1.6x, even with ML. I had the G7, loved the M better. The A6300 is good competition but again had both, ended up keeping the M. Something magical about the RAW Look.
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Re: EOS M RAW in 2019 against 4k options like a Panasonic G7
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2019, 10:52:46 PM »
EOS M RAW is definitely worth a try, it's cheap camera in 2019, so it's not such a big investment.