Komputerbay 1066x series just released

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Markus

So is that benchmark from 1066x card?

Quote from: KB TechSupport on April 25, 2014, 02:04:30 PM
Hello Folks,

We have recently had a lot of demand for the 256GB cards. Since the 1200X is always BO'd for 2-3 months - we were finally able launched the other versions of the 256GB cards. While the basic problem is still with being able to access the card outside the camera - we have had quite a bit of success with the 5DM2 and the 5DM3. You can check the benchmark:
So is that benchmark from 1066x card?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91RVau1mlvL._SL1500_.jpg

It is bootable and we were able to achieve continuous on both the 5DM2 and the 5DM3 at 1920X1080 on the 5DM3.

The cards can only be read by a Lexar UDMA7 USB 3.0 Dual Slot, Transcend UDMA7 USB 3.0 reader and the Sandisk UDMA7 USB 3.0 reader. All others readers have not been updated to read 256GB cards. The other readers will format the card to a ~132GB card.

Regards,
Tech Support
KB

KB TechSupport

Hello,

Yes - that is from the 256GB 1066X UDMA7 in playback mode.

To Benchmark you card properly for MAX speed compatible with ML:
1. Go to ML and turn OFF Global Draw
2. Do not test while LV is active, meaning not in video mode or photo with Live View Mode.  This is refereed to testing in Playback mode
3. Make sure your Camera Auto Power off is disabled in Canon menu.
4. Go to the ML menu and find the Debug menu and then the Benchmark, and select Card R/W benchmark (5min)
When the benchmark has finished ML will automatically record the bitmap image in your card.

Regards,

Tech Support
KB

Nang

I just received my 1066x 128gb card. Not sure if I'm testing this right, but here are some benchmarks.




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pobox

I did some further testing and it appears that the 64gb 1066x is way more reliable then the 1000x!

I am using:
5d3, 1920x1080 25fps MLV+sound WITH HDMI viewfinder connected! GD off

1066x 64gb
does continously record 25fps without ever skipping frames/stopping!!
It never stopped yet!


1000x 64gb
does record 25fps continously, however it stops every now and then. You never know when and if.

1066 128GB
this one can actually record 25fps 1080p, but 50% change it will stop by skipping a frame. This can happen after a few sec or after 12 minutues or so. you never know...

xvince1

There's something very strange about performance with 128GB cards.

It's obvious that we can't compare 256GB to 64GB reliability. It's like all 128GB cards have some issues to achieve good performance continuously. Maybe there's something like SSD's nand module, with pair number of Nand modules connected to controller ? Maybe not the same type of RAM used

Perhaps KB support can clear it up, in asking directly factory engineering staff ?

I'd like to bought 1000x 64Gb, but It's not cheap and really short to record about 15Min on just one card a time. In fact, I use something like 90 Gb for one session

Markus

256GB 1200x is stable for mlv full hd with sound on my mk III... thats 47 minutes of raw on one card =)

Quote from: xvince1 on April 28, 2014, 01:41:37 PM
There's something very strange about performance with 128GB cards.

It's obvious that we can't compare 256GB to 64GB reliability. It's like all 128GB cards have some issues to achieve good performance continuously. Maybe there's something like SSD's nand module, with pair number of Nand modules connected to controller ? Maybe not the same type of RAM used

Perhaps KB support can clear it up, in asking directly factory engineering staff ?

I'd like to bought 1000x 64Gb, but It's not cheap and really short to record about 15Min on just one card a time. In fact, I use something like 90 Gb for one session

arturochu

Quote from: Markus on April 29, 2014, 02:55:54 AM
256GB 1200x is stable for mlv full hd with sound on my mk III... thats 47 minutes of raw on one card =)

can you make a benchmark test with the 1200x like kbsupport suggested?
Chu

pobox

will a canon DSLR (5d3) recognize a 256GB as 256GB?

PressureFM

Quote from: pobox on April 29, 2014, 10:51:08 AM
will a canon DSLR (5d3) recognize a 256GB as 256GB?

If it is formatted as ExFat, then yes.

KMikhail

Apparently:

a) Benchmark performance on 5D3 is somewhat different from actual recording performance (TS cards, barely around 80mb/s in rec mode, but can do 24fps).

b) 128 GB cards suffer in the department of speed vs. 64 GB cards and particularly with respect to consistency.

c) I've seen numbers for KB 128 1050x posted by KB on amazon as high as 134MB/s write and in my opinion that would be a true beast (toms hardware highest is 129mb/s for 64GB cards and they tried many readers too), but I didn't have anything approaching these numbers for KB 1066x or TS 1000x in a proper setting (w8 and U7, or 5D3 that can read in excess of 150mb/s).

I am debating if i should go for an expensive card. Obviously, I need to evaluate how much I like (and need) rawvideo, but will I get the performance I need from SanDisk 160mb/s and Lexar 1066x? Unfortunately there is no nice table of how many people have tested a specific card and kind of speed they got (people tend to report when they are strongly unsatisfied, seeking assistance, but not so often when they got what works for them).

I've read somewhere here that 30fps is possible with expensive cards and the question is - how dependable is it?

pobox

I noticed the kb 256gb 1200x has slower writhing speeds then the 256gb 1066x.
Did anyone test both?

Markus

Quote from: pobox on May 02, 2014, 10:59:24 AM
I noticed the kb 256gb 1200x has slower writhing speeds then the 256gb 1066x.
Did anyone test both?

On paper yes but I don't think it's been tested by ml community yet.
I'll do a benchmark on my 1200x next week and post.

Sapphiron

Hello everyone!

Recently I bought KomputerBay 128GB 1066x CF and don't know if it's ok or broken...

Is this benchmark good or bad?  :'(


Markus

Quote from: Sapphiron on May 05, 2014, 03:15:17 PM
Hello everyone!

Recently I bought KomputerBay 128GB 1066x CF and don't know if it's ok or broken...

Is this benchmark good or bad?  :'(



looks good!? MLV full hd plus sound stable?

Sapphiron

Quote from: Markus on May 06, 2014, 01:53:00 AM
looks good!? MLV full hd plus sound stable?

For now just raw_rec mode on. no sound. Well i'm quite a noob in ML so...

Aryan

Quote from: Sapphiron on May 05, 2014, 03:15:17 PM
Hello everyone!

Recently I bought KomputerBay 128GB 1066x CF and don't know if it's ok or broken...

Is this benchmark good or bad?  :'(


Hi, I got Komputerbay 128gb  1050X and I get very similar reading as yours ,got a 64gb 1050X and it performs much better

Markus

Benchmark of my 1200x card for comparison:

Liveview off


Liveview on


Benchmark of my 1066x card:

Liveview off


Liveview on

Markus

Ordered a 1066x 256GB today as well, Will try that one out when it arrives.

arturochu

Quote from: Markus on May 20, 2014, 07:13:52 PM
Ordered a 1066x 256GB today as well, Will try that one out when it arrives.

would be nice to have a directo comparision between 1066x and 1200x speed.
Chu

Sapphiron

Quote from: Markus on May 20, 2014, 07:11:48 PM
Benchmark of my 1200x card for comparison:

Liveview off


Liveview on


Well, looking at this benchmark I think that my 128Gb 1066x is not so bad after all...

Sapphiron

Fresh benchmark
128Gb 1066x
1920x1080p@25fps
5d Mark III



Markus

Is the first one with live view on an the second with it turned off?

Sapphiron

1st is in movie mode 2nd in playback. You have all showed on screen ;)

Markus

Just got my new 256gb 1066x KB cf card  the other day.  Initial tests look good, full hd mlv + sound @ 25fps no problem. 1920x1280 raw @ 25fps also continious with sound deactivated in canon menu.
Moore testing to be done!

handbanana

Quote from: pobox on April 27, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
I did some further testing and it appears that the 64gb 1066x is way more reliable then the 1000x!

I am using:
5d3, 1920x1080 25fps MLV+sound WITH HDMI viewfinder connected! GD off

1066x 64gb
does continously record 25fps without ever skipping frames/stopping!!
It never stopped yet!


1000x 64gb
does record 25fps continously, however it stops every now and then. You never know when and if.

1066 128GB
this one can actually record 25fps 1080p, but 50% change it will stop by skipping a frame. This can happen after a few sec or after 12 minutues or so. you never know...

This is exactly the comparison I wanted to see, as 64gb seems to perform better than 128gb at any speed, and 256gb is out of the director's budget for the film I'm DP-ing. I have two 64gb 1000X that work pretty well on my 50D, but we need to grab two more cards for the 5Dmk3 we'll also be shooting on, and 1066x seems to be, based on your test, the best bet for consistent 5D3 performance. Plus, at the end of the day I'll get to keep them and use them on my 50D (and maybe a 5D3 in the future). :)

Thanks for your testing!