The perfect cinema look!

Started by johnny5d, April 21, 2014, 10:19:05 PM

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johnny5d

Hi friends,

I love raw footage but still need alot to learn about color grading!

I saw this video on youtube and for me it looks very cinematic! Can someone tell me how to get this nice cinema color? 


reddeercity

The easy answer, have a look at Film Convert Pro it a plugin that can give you different looks with out having to know about advanced grading techniques.
The long answer is to learn about color space, from photo to film and all formats , and pay extra attention to the A.C.E.S. work flow 
http://www.oscars.org/science-technology/council/projects/aces.html  ;)

When I use Film Convert Pro These are the setting I like to use :Camera Source "Red One", Film Stock "Fuji 8543" and adjust from there.

johnny5d

Thank you do you have some video footage online you want to share with us? That would be great! Also how can I download it?

dariSSight

Quote from: reddeercity on April 22, 2014, 12:25:30 AM
The easy answer, have a look at Film Convert Pro it a plugin that can give you different looks with out having to know about advanced grading techniques.
The long answer is to learn about color space, from photo to film and all formats , and pay extra attention to the A.C.E.S. work flow 
http://www.oscars.org/science-technology/council/projects/aces.html  ;)

When I use Film Convert Pro These are the setting I like to use :Camera Source "Red One", Film Stock "Fuji 8543" and adjust from there.
Maybe A.C.E.S (Academy Color Encoding System) actual workflow dialog went over my head, now I read the ACES booklet that standardize bit rate and resolution. I've even watch some uninformed video that let you know what the want to accomplish with A.C.E.S , but now workflow. So the diagram explains that the A.C.E.S workflow would be implemented after you capture the image then output footage into A.C.E.S workflow. So my question is A.C.E.S a format unifying software for converting all formats to a single format or is it a format that will be standard in all hardware that's in development stages.
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Africashot

Stu Maschwitz has some pretty interesting color grading tutorials out there (not for RAW specifically but about the 'cinema look') although it is not only about color, focal length, aperture, glass, DR, texture, camera movement, shutterspeed all play a substantial part of it. Looking at your sample I'd look into cooling the shadows with Tiel, warming highlights with Amber and use scopes to hit the right skin tones, that is mostly what people call the 'Blockbuster look', and it has been abused extremely as of lately...
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johnny5d

Sadly I can't run resolve or film converter on my computer... :( is there another way to get that film look color without this program?

I have after effects and sony vegas 11...

Hope to hear from you guys/girls ;)

ansius

Cinema look does not start in post, it stats with composition, control of the exposure and so on. If the shot is not cinematic it can not be turned to one in post, imho
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johnny5d

Dear friends,

I know! The only thing I like to know is how to get that cinema look! And I meen colors!  :D

kiaa00

Well you can achive that look by using the curves in any editor, it seems like the trick is a more blue in the dark areas and green midtones, you may have to experiment how much o the curve you need to bend to get the proper look.

or the easy way, you can get red gigan looks or the suite magic bullet looks and color grade there.

i offten use the second one so i keep the contrast and the colorgrade separated.

ansius

It is so much to individual taste, that there is not one particular way to make it more cinematic.

Firs one is tough heated discussion - motion blur. In cinema for decades there was 24fps and 1/48th exposure (180deg shutter angle) and this gives something that we associate with cinema, second is that wide format, you have to wrap your head around a bit because it is not cropped top and bottom, but extension to the sides, that changes the way we think about composition, golden ratio, and of course - film properties.

What I love about film is that it is equally detailed in highlights and shadows as in midtones, and unless you shoot in raw, digital always looses details there. The way film handles highlights as such, and its grain. Today we tend to emulate the esthetic of film.

One of the ways I like to do is make a curve adjustment giving slight s contrast curves in R and G channels and lift the blue blacks up, and lights down till I get nice skin tones, the key is not overdoing it, otherwise it looks cheap Polaroid emulation.
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