Canon 5D Mark II / 5D2

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OlRivrRat

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xvince1

Quote from: reddeercity on June 20, 2019, 04:06:07 AM
Yes get the 5D2 over the eos m , faster write speed (CFcard) full frame
just a better looking image , it has a better user experience ,no bugs .
Soon it will have lossless compression (being trying to finish it from last year @ 90% done)
just finishing up with crop_rec now so by the end of the mouth I should be working on lossless .
Plus I'll be looking at overclocking the cf card bus for faster write speeds = to 5d3 @ 120MB/s.
just haven't had time to dig very deep , so yea the future looks very bright for 5d2 .
Oh did I mention 5d2 can do 48fps in 3x3 (FHD) 1856x1120 & 1920x818 45fps for in 3x crop_mode (in the crop_rec branch)

Hi reddeercity, Do you have a thread to follow your builds ? I'm back on video with my 5d2. I'd stayed since 2013 with the old RAW FW (just to have 1880). I want to try again mlv with sound now and try what's possible nowadays with 5D2. Cheers  :)


nedarata

Is it possible to record crop video without enabling MLV option?

Paul13Walnut5

Dear ML community

I am a previous user of ML on canon 550D, 600D, 60D, 7Ds and M's.

I have just bought a used 5D2 (couldn't stretch to a 5D3 unfortunately)

I realise this question has probably been asked before but I'm having bother finding clear, up to date information,

Can any body help?  Thanks in advance...

I would like to record full sensor width (I'm using an effect lens, a swirley zenit 50) but also at the best possible resolution up to 1920x1080 and decent quality.   

I don't need RAW just a decent bitrate full HD MP4.  8 bit etc is all fine, for me it's just about squeezing the best sharpness I can out of the 5D2's video.

I'm not a coder etc so would really appreciate plain english on how to get good full HD from the cam with ML.

Many thanks in advance.




Walter Schulz

As of today ML does not offer that much to avoid Canon's ways of generating mushy H.264 output.
Sorry, explaination doesn't go without ML lingo:
5D2 in this mode does (as all ML supported cams but 5D3) line skipping/row binning. Means: Only every third sensor line is used in movie mode. This rises the risk of getting moiré. And this means cam does not record 1920x1080 but 1880x1058 (if I got it right). To fight moiré sensor's anti-aliasing filter won't help much because it is designed for photo mode. Therefore electronic filters are responsible for softening the image to fight aliasing, add some noise reduction, blowing it up to 1920x1080. This is done by dedicated hardware we don't know much about.
For H.264 ML can only enhance ISO performance a bit, allow shutter timing fine-tuning and some more (Dual-ISO, HDR, ...). But H.264 sharpness in general is not in ML's hands.

Lookup http://www.mosaicengineering.com/products/vaf/5d2.html

RAW/MLV on the other hand ...

york824

Been a 5D2 user for many years but recently found this build(https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19336.0) now I am trying to learn video recording for fun. It is capable of recording at 2784*1160 for around 14 seconds in raw with a 2x crop, so basically a 2K M43 raw video camera and I have been impressed by the image quality so far. Would be better if there is a compression feature like in the EOS M though. It's just amazing how a 10-year-old camera can still perform this well.

Macke1

I really want some help, after I update to Catalina I cant process my dual iso files. Switch does not work for me, any suggesting?

masc

I heard MLVApp works on Catalina.
5D3.113 | EOSM.202

Macke1

sorry, does it works with pictures? (Im using mlvapp for movie)

masc

Quote from: Macke1 on October 25, 2019, 12:35:43 PM
sorry, does it works with pictures? (Im using mlvapp for movie)
What exactly do you want to do?
5D3.113 | EOSM.202

Macke1


masc

Quote from: Macke1 on October 25, 2019, 01:37:36 PM
process dual iso pictures
As far as I know, there is no out-of-the-box solution for Catalina yet.
-> You could compile Ilias libRAW and transcode your picture into MLV, then process with MLVApp.
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=20025.msg221580#msg221580 (and also some posts before)
-> Or wait until Switch is ready for Catalina
-> Or downgrade OS
5D3.113 | EOSM.202

Macke1


froooot

Dear friends,
I am trying to shoot raw on Canon 5d ii with Sandisk extreme 160MB/s, but on the camera I am getting only 25~29MB/s.
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Can anybody help with this issue, is this a common thing with the SanDisk cards, or may it be related to my camera body?
Thanks in advance.

issues347

I just got the 5d2, and while I'll mainly use it for photos I was excited to try out ML.
Got the right firmware, and the latest nightly build.

But, I'm looking for a 60fps option, but for the life of me can't find any concrete info on it.
Is that a feature ML can provide for the 5D2?


rappmitch

I would like to use my 5D2 as a webcam. I can already output a clean HDMI 1080p signal into my 4k capture card using the July 3 2018 nightly. Which nightly should I use for the highest resolution? And which modules? All the different ML menu options are a bit overwhelming for me. I don't need to record, just want to output the highest resolution clean HDMI signal and prevent the camera from powering off.

Walter Schulz

To avoid 30 minutes limit you have to use a lua_fix experimental build (or any build based on lua_fix). Then access Prefs tab/screen -> PowerSave in LiveView and set "30-minutes timer" to Disabled.
No module or setting will enhance HDMI output resolution, though.

jpegmasterjesse

There was another post on the forum about this here:
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=24877.msg225660;topicseen#msg225660

I tried the steps above with decent luck. I ended up skipping the Digicam step entirely and using EOS Utility to generate the liveview window. The step of capturing and streaming the window from OBS was pretty pretty foolproof once virtual cam was installed, which I did by unzipping the the files from the github and moving them into the corresponding install folders.

I'm not certain what resolution is passed through USB, but it's pretty good quality. Once it's passed on to the viewer the quality is probably reduced pretty significantly.

Wlad81

Does 5D Mk II have any advantages over 100D when shooting 1920x1080 crop? That is, in the no lines skipping mode.

I can get 5D Mk II for $260 or so, but in order to use it's full sensor the anti-aliasing filter is needed, and it's more expensive than the camera.
Canon EOS 5D Mk III + Canon 24-105 F/4 L IS USM + SanDisk Exreme Pro 64 GB (SD, ML Nightly.2021Feb07.5D3113) + SanDisk Extreme Pro 128 GB (CF).

reddeercity

Quote from: Wlad81 on April 03, 2020, 08:40:01 PM
....  in order to use it's full sensor the anti-aliasing filter is needed, and it's more expensive than the camera.
No need for that , I've had a 5d2 since 2010 (shooting news stories & short Doc) and hasn't been a issue at all
Comes to the lens quality & shooting technique.

Quote from: Wlad81 on April 03, 2020, 08:40:01 PM
Does 5D Mk II have any advantages over 100D when shooting 1920x1080 crop? That is, in the no lines skipping mode.
I thinks so , Bigger Sensor , Less Crop factor (Full frame - 36mmx24mm) to (APS-C -22.3mm×14.9mm Crop factor 1.6x)    fast storage (CF Card - 75-80MB/s write speed)
In Crop_Mode 5d2 does 3008x1080 @ 24fps & or 2784x1160 @ 24fps , crop factor is 1.85 (3008x1080)  2.02 (2784x1160)
100D Crop factor is higher in crop_mode , e.g. 5184( full horizontal of 100d sensor) , So 5184/3000 = 1.72+1.6(crop factor of full frame)=3.32 crop factor
24mm=80mm where as the 5D2 crop factor at the same resolution (3k) 24mm=44.4mm

There's also experimental crop_rec builds here  , if you what more resolution up to 5.6k
The 100D does also have  experimental crop_rec builds , so it all depends on your requirements for your videos/films projects

Wlad81

I've got it, thank you.

Is it possible to shoot an entire 2-hour concert with 2 or 3 5D Mk II? Using 128 GB CFs and power adaptors and ML 12 bit lossless RAW. Will the cameras overheat?
Canon EOS 5D Mk III + Canon 24-105 F/4 L IS USM + SanDisk Exreme Pro 64 GB (SD, ML Nightly.2021Feb07.5D3113) + SanDisk Extreme Pro 128 GB (CF).

alexboum

Quote from: Wlad81 on April 04, 2020, 10:33:03 PM
I've got it, thank you.

Is it possible to shoot an entire 2-hour concert with 2 or 3 5D Mk II? Using 128 GB CFs and power adaptors and ML 12 bit lossless RAW. Will the cameras overheat?

No you will got only 30min (12bit) 45min (10bit). You can use https://rawcalculator.netlify.com if you want to calculate record duration or bitrate ect.... But you can also use H264 with increased bitrate it's not as good as raw but it's better than default h264 and you could record for 2Hours!

Walter Schulz

Wait a moment! H.264 29:59 limit doesn't apply anymore? If true: What about other cams?