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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2014, 05:09:33 AM »
Where is the poll?  I can't see it in the raw forum
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I second that. I'd like to cast a vote, please.

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2014, 05:20:47 AM »
What about support for other NLEs? Seems like everyone has creative cloud on the brain here. I would love native AMA support in Media Composer or something for FCP X (I realize FCP7 wouldn't have any use because of ProRes 4444 limitations).

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2014, 04:18:11 PM »
What about support for other NLEs? Seems like everyone has creative cloud on the brain here. I would love native AMA support in Media Composer or something for FCP X (I realize FCP7 wouldn't have any use because of ProRes 4444 limitations).
Hi DJFremen
 
  We do support FCP 7, QuickTime and MediaComposer AMA.  FCP X is under development.  We also support Assimilate Scratch for finishing.

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2014, 04:57:59 PM »
I second that. I'd like to cast a vote, please.
The poll just showed up at the top of the topic for me
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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2014, 05:19:00 PM »
me too. but what about is the poll now? MLV-Support with some static settings per sequence?

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2014, 05:41:15 PM »
me too. but what about is the poll now? MLV-Support with some static settings per sequence?
I think it would be a two parter:
1.  Just MLV/RAW support for Premiere, FCP 7 and MediaComposer
2.  Settings dialog per clip in Premiere (and MediaComposer if possible)
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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2014, 06:14:20 PM »
I think this poll would gain a better gauge of who's interested or not if it weren't apart of the Magic Lantern Forum for two main reasons.

1)There aren't a lot of people who know about this poll, which is only displayed here in this particular post.
2)There are guests of the forums that can't cast a vote.

I believe that a poll outside of the community that can be accessed from anywhere, without signup requirements, will allow for more observations of this question and more participation from others. There obviously must be some form of order to the poll such as one vote per IP address or something along those lines to maintain the integrity of the votes. I also think the features we discussed before should be incorporated somehow into the poll. Here's an example:

Example 1) Is a native Magic Lantern raw/mlv plugin for your favorite NLE necessary to you? Yes or No

Example 2) Would you buy a Magic Lantern raw/mlv plugin, for your favorite NLE, with these features? (list features that would accompany the plugin) Yes or No

Just my thoughts.

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2014, 06:48:12 PM »
Yes you right about the poll,
But my only interest is to see this plugin
Work in Final Cut Pro X 10.1.1,
Final Cut Pro 7 is dead. it's been  dead for
3 years now. I think you will get a better response
To this with fcpx users, just my thoughts .

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2014, 07:55:45 PM »
Yes you right about the poll,
But my only interest is to see this plugin
Work in Final Cut Pro X 10.1.1,
Final Cut Pro 7 is dead. it's been  dead for
3 years now. I think you will get a better response
To this with fcpx users, just my thoughts .
We are still seeing FCP 7 in larger corporate environments.  FCP-X is a target, but we tend to be getting a lot more interest from Scratch/MC/Premiere users.  Certainly around NAB we will be shipping FCP-X.
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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #59 on: February 13, 2014, 07:57:23 PM »
I think this poll would gain a better gauge of who's interested or not if it weren't apart of the Magic Lantern Forum for two main reasons.

1)There aren't a lot of people who know about this poll, which is only displayed here in this particular post.
2)There are guests of the forums that can't cast a vote.

I believe that a poll outside of the community that can be accessed from anywhere, without signup requirements, will allow for more observations of this question and more participation from others. There obviously must be some form of order to the poll such as one vote per IP address or something along those lines to maintain the integrity of the votes. I also think the features we discussed before should be incorporated somehow into the poll. Here's an example:

Example 1) Is a native Magic Lantern raw/mlv plugin for your favorite NLE necessary to you? Yes or No

Example 2) Would you buy a Magic Lantern raw/mlv plugin, for your favorite NLE, with these features? (list features that would accompany the plugin) Yes or No

Just my thoughts.
That makes a lot of sense.  Also, there is no concept of cost in the poll above.  I am not sure the yes votes realize we are talking about a 99$ cost for the plug in.

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #60 on: February 13, 2014, 10:03:02 PM »
I also wonder if the people voting "yes" in the poll realize that this wouldn't include ACR controls?

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #61 on: February 13, 2014, 10:37:22 PM »
We are still seeing FCP 7 in larger corporate environments.  FCP-X is a target, but we tend to be getting a lot more interest from Scratch/MC/Premiere users.  Certainly around NAB we will be shipping FCP-X.
Cheers, J
Look forward to using this plugin, thanks  :)

@ Midphase , yes a know there will be not Raw controls, but
fcpx handles raw very well, or I can send the clip to motion 5.0 or A.E. via the "send to" App
on maverick .

 

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #62 on: February 14, 2014, 05:17:19 AM »
Hmm... I was just experimenting with how to make a poll and clicked the save by mistake and then you can't edit it after that (time wise).  I was going to make it for 30 days.  Even in one day with the answers it is 75% yes. 
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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2014, 10:52:51 AM »
so there is a potential for ~20 people buying it.
2k€ for making a version that "simply does" sounds reasonable.

if you get enough licenses sold, you can roll out an update as clean plugin solution afterwards.
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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #64 on: February 17, 2014, 05:03:58 PM »
so there is a potential for ~20 people buying it.
2k€ for making a version that "simply does" sounds reasonable.

if you get enough licenses sold, you can roll out an update as clean plugin solution afterwards.
Hi G3gg0

  That does sound like a good idea.  We are looking at making an install and license for just ML in Premiere, MediaComposer, QT, FCP7 (and X eventually).  I am currently travelling, but we should have a better idea when it will be available later this week.  We are also exploring the Premiere dialog option for all our raw types, including ML.  Thanks for all the comments and ideas.

Cheers, James

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2014, 06:20:11 PM »
Sounds good, can't wait to see what happens with this.
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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2014, 12:33:24 PM »
We are also exploring the Premiere dialog option for all our raw types, including ML.

+1 buyer for that plugin with at least exposure control, white balance, highlight & shadow.

If it is possible for you to add this controls, would the settings stay there if we use directlink to Speedgrade for fine tuning color correction?

One other great feature would be synced audio with mlv+sound, (or maybe it does that already? I didn't try the demo so I don't know).

Patiently waiting with credit card.

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #67 on: February 22, 2014, 10:19:41 PM »
+1 buyer for that plugin with at least exposure control, white balance, highlight & shadow.

If it is possible for you to add this controls, would the settings stay there if we use directlink to Speedgrade for fine tuning color correction?

One other great feature would be synced audio with mlv+sound, (or maybe it does that already? I didn't try the demo so I don't know).

Patiently waiting with credit card.
Hi Malex

  That looks like its going to happen in the second release for ML and other raw formats.  Yes, I believe SpeedGrade reads through Premiere in this case (a link rather then a direct read).  With the audio, we will automatically pick up side bar WAV or AIFF files (from field recorders).  We have added some support for the audio in MLV, but we don't have any samples yet.  We are going to make some with our camera here, but we also want some from out of house, if anyone is willing to share.

Cheers, James

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #68 on: February 23, 2014, 03:07:29 PM »
All this sound great, it will put an end to all questions about which workflow is the best!
Shoot RAW --> Edit RAW --> Color RAW --> Export
No more dng, dpx or prores etc.. Just having .raw and .mlv will save us a lot of space! Thanks for making this happen :)

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #69 on: February 26, 2014, 08:18:39 AM »
Any thoughts on system load implications of a native Raw workflow?
What kind of specs are we talking for realtime playback with and without CUDA/openCL?
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« Reply #70 on: February 26, 2014, 09:27:07 AM »
Any thoughts on system load implications of a native Raw workflow?
What kind of specs are we talking for realtime playback with and without CUDA/openCL?

Obviously CPU is important, at least 16gb of ram, a cuda card for premiere, but the most important thing I think is the hard drives, you need to set them well, if you have 4 of them it'd be great.
1 ssd for system and apps
1 raid0 of many hdd would be great for footage.
1 for media cache, preview files, windows paging file.
1 for export.
If all are ssd at least you know there mignt not be bottleneck of data happening. But of course it's expensive :O

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #71 on: February 27, 2014, 09:31:14 PM »
Obviously CPU is important, at least 16gb of ram, a cuda card for premiere, but the most important thing I think is the hard drives, you need to set them well, if you have 4 of them it'd be great.
1 ssd for system and apps
1 raid0 of many hdd would be great for footage.
1 for media cache, preview files, windows paging file.
1 for export.
If all are ssd at least you know there mignt not be bottleneck of data happening. But of course it's expensive :O

Not to stray off topic, but I'm looking to build a desktop to handle raw/dng files and would be this be an okay hard drive setup?

1 ssd(256gb) for OS/apps
1 ssd(128gb) for media cache, preview files
2x 7200rpm 2TB HDD in raid 0 for raw/footage/dng
1 HDD (something like 3 or 4TB 5400rpm) for exports/misc stuff

I can't afford to have all SSD drives, but I do have 1 SSD as my OS right now so I figure to get another SSD and few HDD.

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #72 on: February 27, 2014, 10:42:58 PM »
Just make sure you backup your Raid 0 , if you lose 1 drive you loose the Raid  :'(
and all data loss. Maybe look at a Raid5 minimum 3 drive, 4 drives would better
and if you loose a drive you are Ok not to mention the increase in speed.
That's my setup Raid5 R/W 425MB/s 450MB/s  :D
Most hi-end Mother board support raid 5, Just my two cents worth.   

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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #73 on: February 28, 2014, 02:50:21 AM »
Just make sure you backup your Raid 0 , if you lose 1 drive you loose the Raid  :'(
and all data loss. Maybe look at a Raid5 minimum 3 drive, 4 drives would better
and if you loose a drive you are Ok not to mention the increase in speed.
That's my setup Raid5 R/W 425MB/s 450MB/s  :D
Most hi-end Mother board support raid 5, Just my two cents worth.

Hmm that sounds like a good setup, but I won't be able to afford so many drives to do one Raid. Is Raid 0 that unreliable? I currently have 5 external hard drives (I like to backup my backups  :D)
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Re: MLV raw files native support in Premiere Pro CC!!! (99%) minor glitches
« Reply #74 on: February 28, 2014, 04:13:34 AM »
No Raid 0 is find as long as you Have backup, I never have lost a Raid 0 yet, but the possible is there.
you could also look at a raid 0+1 which is just a mirrored raid 0 which there again you need 4 drives
but there is redundancy there. One more option is to look at 10,000 rpm WD VelociRaptor 600gb I run them in my
Server , Workstation &  my Older MacPro. There are Cheap now days, just a thought. :)