[UNMAINTAINED] Canon 5D Classic Firmware ** Beta 4 **

Started by coutts, June 14, 2012, 04:54:02 PM

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peterrr

It's a tragedy.
Why don't we all ask around on our different forums and networks if anyone has an defect 5dc laying around that could be used for spare parts? Or maybe someone has kept a 5dc as a backup camera and is willing to lend it to this project or to sell it for a small price.

PhotoCat

I am so sorry to hear this Coutts!   :'(    U r more so a hero to me!

I am sure it must have been tried...  I mention it just in case for others...
A hardware reset
by pulling out the main battery *and* all the small backup batteries, which
could lock up the state machine.

Reference:

http://ilucato.com.br/lucatowp/lang/en-us/como-fazer-o-reset-de-fabrica-na-canon-rebel300d-xti400dhow-to-hard-reset-canon-rebel300d-xti400d


Mokshamann

Hi,

What do you think? It is possible there will be a higher ISO value on 5d classic?

M

ilguercio

Quote from: Mokshamann on November 04, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
Hi,

What do you think? It is possible there will be a higher ISO value on 5d classic?

M
It isn't worth it since all the H iso are already pushed AFTER the light has been captures so they are digitally and not analogically obtained. You can do the same thing in post.
Canon EOS 6D, 60D, 50D.
Sigma 70-200 EX OS HSM, Sigma 70-200 Apo EX HSM, Samyang 14 2.8, Samyang 35 1.4, Samyang 85 1.4.
Proud supporter of Magic Lantern.

vscd

@COUTTS
Would you keep on doing if there would be a filled paypalaccount for getting a used 5DC from (f.e.) ebay?   ::)

coutts

Quote from: Mokshamann on November 04, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
Hi,

What do you think? It is possible there will be a higher ISO value on 5d classic?

M
anything higher than I think ISO800 is "digital gain" iso, as in it's the same thing as pulling the exposure in post processing. things are already pretty noisy with ISO3200, even so: I couldn't push it any higher than 3200 (but probably can be done with lots of reverse engineering).

ilguercio

Quote from: coutts on November 04, 2012, 10:28:31 PM
anything higher than I think ISO800 is "digital gain" iso, as in it's the same thing as pulling the exposure in post processing. things are already pretty noisy with ISO3200, even so: I couldn't push it any higher than 3200 (but probably can be done with lots of reverse engineering).
Well, if Canon can be trusted then ordinary iso values are analogically obtained while H iso are digital.
This is what i know, at least.
Canon EOS 6D, 60D, 50D.
Sigma 70-200 EX OS HSM, Sigma 70-200 Apo EX HSM, Samyang 14 2.8, Samyang 35 1.4, Samyang 85 1.4.
Proud supporter of Magic Lantern.

vscd

I also think ISO1600 is a native ISO. Otherwise the "Pushed" modes with "L" or "H" wouldn't be marked this way.

nanomad

Most ISO modes are digitally touched anyway. The true analog ISOs are a multiple of something between the 100 and 160 as a1ex and other people discovered
EOS 1100D | EOS 650 (No, I didn't forget the D) | Ye Olde Canon EF Lenses ('87): 50 f/1.8 - 28 f/2.8 - 70-210 f/4 | EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 | Metz 36 AF-5

dirk


nanomad

EOS 1100D | EOS 650 (No, I didn't forget the D) | Ye Olde Canon EF Lenses ('87): 50 f/1.8 - 28 f/2.8 - 70-210 f/4 | EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 | Metz 36 AF-5

dirk

he it is the cam from coutts what is the paypal acount from him

nanomad

The ML team will cover the cost of a "new" one for him ;)
EOS 1100D | EOS 650 (No, I didn't forget the D) | Ye Olde Canon EF Lenses ('87): 50 f/1.8 - 28 f/2.8 - 70-210 f/4 | EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 | Metz 36 AF-5

peterrr

Two auctions are running on ebay with 5dc's having a defect shutter or mirror:

One in the UK, 6 days to go, now on USD 38:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-5D-BODY-12-8-M-P-FAULTY-SPARES-REPAIRS-PARTS-/281018778422?pt=UK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN&hash=item416e064336

One in Germany 3 days to go, now on EUR 53:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Canon-EOS-5D-Gehause-defekt-Batteriegriffe-BG-E4-und-BG-ED3-/170937058634?pt=DE_Foto_Camcorder_Digitalkameras&hash=item27cca4854a

This one is shipped to Germany. I live in Switserland, but also have a german postal address, so I could bid on it and forward it. Maybe the owner would also send it to other countries if asked.

nanomad

(we may already have found one in mint condition for him)

The UK one looks interesting. I wonder how much would it cost to have it repaired properly though

EOS 1100D | EOS 650 (No, I didn't forget the D) | Ye Olde Canon EF Lenses ('87): 50 f/1.8 - 28 f/2.8 - 70-210 f/4 | EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 | Metz 36 AF-5

compupix

Are the EOS 5D (original) Beta 4 installation instructions correct on page
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=1010.0?
There is no step 6.
Quote
4.) Charge battery to 100% and remove any battery grip for the install procedure.
5.) Download the zip file from the link below, unzip all of the files to your CF card.
7.) Launch the firmware update process. If you see any red led, then something...
I can't get it to work. I can't get past a blinking blue light.

Thanks,
Drew

walta

Quote from: compupix on November 09, 2012, 03:56:56 PM
Are the EOS 5D (original) Beta 4 installation instructions correct on page
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=1010.0?
There is no step 6.I can't get it to work. I can't get past a blinking blue light.

Thanks,
Drew

Look back a few posts. I helped some others that had the same problem.

You have to do the firmware update twice with 2 different .fir files


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The instructions aren't too clear.

On your first install you need to do the firmware update with the file named "5dc.111.card bootable.fir" in the root of the card
This makes your card bootable
next you have to do the firmware update with the "5dc.111.ML install.fir" file (as well as all the other ones needed for ML)
This installs the ML bootflag.

There is no message that it was successful. The blue light should come on steady - like the instructions say. Then you have to remove the battery to re-boot the camera.

Blinking light means something wasn't installed properly.

I'm not sure what the camera does if you do the upgrade firmware process with 2 fir files in the root of the card.
after copying all the files over there, I made sure there was only 1 fir file each time when I did the firmware upgrade process and it worked for me.

Canon 5Dc and 400D

compupix

Thanks.
I figured it out!
I might not have the most economical instructions, but they work!

:)

RM22

Quote from: nanomad on November 08, 2012, 02:25:26 PM
(we may already have found one in mint condition for him)

The UK one looks interesting. I wonder how much would it cost to have it repaired properly though

Canon fixes 5DC mirror issues for free. The 5DC line had an issue with mirrors, so Canon does their repair even now, even if the warranty is long over. It's usually just a matter of gluing the mirror back.

GershberG

just came from 24h time laps.
intervalometer worked rock solid.
it had some calculation mistakes (estimated pictures count was less than actual),
but since the camera was observed from time to time, it wasn't a big issue.

thank you again!
7D[ML], 60D[ML], 5Dc[ML]
8-15L, 16-35L II, 24-70L II, 70-200L, 50L f:1.2

vscd

@NanoMad
>Most ISO modes are digitally touched anyway. The true analog ISOs are a multiple of something between the 100 and 160 as a1ex
>and other people discovered

DxoMark measures this exactly. The Canon 5D is at least really close to the shown values, unlike other cams.  http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Canon/EOS-5D#measuretabs-1

nanomad

No, what I meant is that the camera sensor outputs something between ISO 100 and 160. The "real" value is then digitally adjust to match ISO 100 readings (at least on most cameras). DxO misures the accuracy of such "adjustment" since they don't have access to raw sensor readings
EOS 1100D | EOS 650 (No, I didn't forget the D) | Ye Olde Canon EF Lenses ('87): 50 f/1.8 - 28 f/2.8 - 70-210 f/4 | EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 | Metz 36 AF-5

a1ex

On 5Dc, intermediate ISOs are real (not digitally adjusted).

nanomad

EOS 1100D | EOS 650 (No, I didn't forget the D) | Ye Olde Canon EF Lenses ('87): 50 f/1.8 - 28 f/2.8 - 70-210 f/4 | EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 | Metz 36 AF-5

Devulder

Quote from: nanomad on November 08, 2012, 02:25:26 PM
(we may already have found one in mint condition for him)

The UK one looks interesting. I wonder how much would it cost to have it repaired properly though

Hi !
Does Countts have is new (old) camera 5dc ?
And what about the beta 5 ?
Thank's :)
5đc  ml beta 4