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Yeah, nice job @hyalinejim. It's really close now to the original Ektar. I didn't like the fist version (although I was using on Rawtherapee), but these last ones seems really good, thanks.
I own a OM1 too, it's a good camera.

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General Help Q&A / Re: Re: New Guy Here - Bit Depth Question
« on: October 20, 2017, 07:58:40 PM »
Good point Audionut. Agreed.

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General Help Q&A / Re: Re: New Guy Here - Bit Depth Question
« on: October 20, 2017, 01:12:06 AM »
Let's be honest, a very little percentage of downloaders read EULA/TOS or sofware licenses.
If the individual wants to open legal prosecution on ML creators, they would already be legally protected, since it's already stated inside the package itself ("README" text file). No need to worry too much with these things.

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General Help Q&A / Re: Re: New Guy Here - Bit Depth Question
« on: October 19, 2017, 03:30:12 PM »
Or, click here and install it (build from Oct16 2017).

edit:  Link removed - old build links scattered through the forum annoy this moderator.  //Audionut

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Reverse Engineering / Re: Reverse Engineering Picture Styles
« on: October 18, 2017, 07:32:52 PM »
I've seen a quite a few complaints about skin tones looking grey or plastic with different picture styles. Anyone here still facing that issue?

Yes, I had this issue with VisionLog (old beta profile from vision-color), but not with LogNeutral. You have to be really hard on color grading, though.
The way to go is MLV if you want quality. If you need to record something that doesn't need so much quality, go with LogNeutral + 3DLUTs, I would say.

Sure I'll try to explain it without confusing you more I hope

Ok, thanks!

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Reverse Engineering / Re: Reverse Engineering Picture Styles
« on: October 17, 2017, 06:15:07 PM »
Hi @reddeercity , can you answer this other thread? I'm very curious about ACES, but don't know much. Thanks.

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Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: ML-Log: new log profile for Magic Lantern
« on: October 17, 2017, 12:15:59 AM »
Finally something like this. Thank you very much to everyone that put effort on it.

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Post-processing Workflow / Re: what converter to you you use
« on: October 16, 2017, 06:52:27 AM »
Look into HandBrake or any interface for ffmpeg...

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Share Your Videos / Re: 60D 60fps RAW Test Video
« on: October 14, 2017, 04:07:34 AM »
Hey, that's good! There's some issues with flickering, moire effect, heterogeneous color grading and some noisy footages, but overall it's pretty good. These issues are probably related with your lightroom workflow. I would suggest you expose your scenes +2 f-stops above the normal and give it a try to MLVProducer instead. You can export a AlexaLog ProRes or DNxHR 4:4:4 and grade with Lumetri and 3D LUTs (these or these and this one, for example) in Premiere Pro (you're probably already using PP anyway).
The smooth transition should be applied on the aspect ratio you're working (2.35:1, it seems) and just on final export you should fit it in 16:9. That way the effect only apply inside the aspect ratio you're working, not outside as in the video.

Have you tried 10bit MLV? If you set a resolution with your working aspect ratio (such as 1920x817) and 10bit you can probably record much more than 11 sec. (assuming you have a fast card, ~35MB/s).

I like these travel short videos, feels good. Check out Benjamin F. Leftwich and Bon Iver, I find they always a good choice for this kind of video...

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Post-processing Workflow / Encoding for UHDTV and ACES workflow [?]
« on: October 12, 2017, 12:44:04 AM »
Following the discussion and some tips from other users, I've some questions to people smarter than me:

It's a bit more complex to work with 3D LUTs on ACES than I thought. The correct practice seems to use LMT (Look Management Transform). So, is FilmConvert using LMT to work correctly with ACEScct? Or it's just a simple fancy curve? If it is, in fact, converting colors with 3D LUTs, FilmConvert is not a good practice while on ACES, right?

Although people from high-end industry don't seem to recommend using LUTs for primary color grading (because they are "ultimate-power-level Baselight users"), I find it very handy to work with it, since it saves so much time. Some people seem to be trying to use CTL already, but I don't know how good these are.

Also, what's the best way to output these ACES projects for new 4K TV's these days? Hybrid Log-Gamma is already supported on many TV's, it seems, so Rec.2020 (ICtCp) is a thing already? What codec should be used? HEVC 10bit 4:4:4? Youtube and Vimeo supports these?
As for submitting to film festivals, DCI-P3 and DPX should be used?

Anyway... does anyone know what is the current best practices at all for grading and encoding raw files (CDNG and others)? I'm not taking into consideration VFX here, of course. All those data is a bit complex and I'm just the guy with no money trying to do a good technical job.
It seems the industry was always about companies trying to sell their products as the best thing ever created, while the actual benefits are non-existent. ACES seems to be of real benefit, enough to change my workflow entirely if necessary.

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Post-processing Workflow / Re: Emulating Eastman 400T 5295?
« on: October 11, 2017, 04:26:51 PM »
Hey @bpv5P

Blade Runner was shot on 5247 according to this thread (halfway down): http://www.cinematography.net/edited-pages/red%20eye%20effect.htm

Oh, thanks for correcting me! It's a great looking movie anyway, a shame we lost these great stock film styles.

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Anyway, Cineform's original First Light grading app (now GoPro Studio) used to have a variety of Kodak 52** LUTs built in: incl 5245, 5246, 5247 and 5293, 5298. They were very good – but were in a format I couldn't translate into anything usable outside their app. It was a great little app for use with their own Cineform codec active metadata. Now I think it's pretty dead. Shame.

PS Found this site, can't say how accurate the info is though: https://shotonwhat.com/

I'll read more about this, maybe I can access the internal files and get the 3DLUT data from it...

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Hey, that's great aschille84! All this dynamic range... damn.

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Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: MLVProducer: [v3171]
« on: October 11, 2017, 02:53:56 PM »
Cool.
Thanks for the new release and all your work AWPStar!

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Post-processing Workflow / Re: Emulating Eastman 400T 5295?
« on: October 11, 2017, 02:35:48 PM »
thats what i want too.

Good point.
Thanks for the tip about the ACES, btw. I'm looking into this new workflow:

CDNG > ACES (1.3) > grading > Rec. 2020 (ICtCp) > DPX or HEVC10bit 4:4:4 (this new "Hybrid Log-Gamma" thing)

Seems very precise, although I don't have these high-end hdr displays.
About the stock emulation, I guess I'll have to do my own LUT if I want that automated.
But I find it very awful that 80's movies have a better look than these new movies recorded with Panavision Millennium DXL.

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Post-processing Workflow / Re: Emulating Eastman 400T 5295?
« on: October 10, 2017, 06:52:40 PM »
Just out of interest, have you tried Koji - and if so what is your opinion of its use with ML footage?

I've tried it with BMDFilm space, from VisionColor and Rec.709. I've found it to be too much saturated and contrasted. The reds also have a bad shift (skin tones are like a carrot). Not really for my taste, but some people might like it. I haven't tried with Cinelog or others, so I can't tell.
ImpulZ Vision3 emulation works very fine, but I can't achieve similar results to the Eastman 400T 5295.

the only thing we're actually using from the fuji is the grain size remember i said turn film color off:) but you you can try to grade it the way you mentioned sounds like you already know what to do...:)

Yes, but I would like a automated approach, instead of spending so much time on color grading process...

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Post-processing Workflow / Re: Emulating Eastman 400T 5295?
« on: October 09, 2017, 03:40:16 PM »
Thanks @Teamsleepkid , but Fuji stock generally push the shadows to magenta and midtones (zone 4-6) to green. This Eastman 400T 5295 is different, instead of magenta, the shadows go to cyan, and midtones remain neutral. Fuji also has some issues on red reproduction, for my perception...

Of course, to achive the same colors of the movies above is much more complex than just throw a LUT, I'm aware of that.

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Post-processing Workflow / Emulating Eastman 400T 5295?
« on: October 08, 2017, 06:40:33 PM »
Hi,
I just noticed that some of the most beautiful neo-noir movies I've ever watched use the same film stock: Eastman 400T 5295
This includes Black Rain (1989) and Brazil (1985), but I also think that 12 Monkeys (1995) and Blade Runner (1982) [nope, it's on 5247 - thanks @timbytheriver] used it.
So, I was thinking how I can emulate that and I couldn't find any way. Of course, I'm aware that there's many variables while trying to emulate this look.
Filmconvert doesn't seem to have that and there's no 3DLuts available that I'm aware of.
Does anyone know how to do it?




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Seems cool. The phrase "You've never seen anything like this" is a bit too much for me.
But seems interesting.

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We can't fly, but our creations reproduce themselves through time and can go beyond our death. Sometimes people will not accept, but certainly you're not all alone.

Great job. Thanks to everyone that worked on this short film.

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General Help Q&A / Re: CR2HDR Access denied!?
« on: September 06, 2017, 09:23:31 PM »
Try disabling your antivirus or whitelist the cr2hdr...

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Forum and Website / Re: Another approach for ML tutorials and help files?
« on: September 05, 2017, 04:47:02 AM »
My opinion: you should do standard man pages using mandoc. Mandoc can translate to other codes, so it's simple to convert to HTML or PDF.

I can help wriiting most of the documentation of the features, but not on the technical (code) knowledge.
Documentation requires a big effort to maintain updated. If we are going to start it, we should maintain it. Else, don't even start.

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From 700D to 5D3 is a lot of money. I would suggest 50D instead of 700D. It can record with a comparable quality to the 5D (in low ISO and lower resolutions) and very cheap. Just buy a fast card (1000x).

For lens: I'd recommend Helios-44 too, it's very cheap. If you have a little more money, it's really worth you buy a Takumar 50mm f/1.4 - I use this lens for about 5 years without any issues, and the extra f-stop is great if you're going to buy 50D.

ps. I can send some samples from 50D if you want, compared to 600D.

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Raw Video / Re: Black screen when recording 10bit/12bit raw on 600d
« on: August 24, 2017, 04:24:32 AM »
It works for me too. The thumbnail on windows explorer will be black, but when you open on a raw processor it just works.
Try reinstalling, if even after that you cannot record, put here your configuration files, you may have some bad config...

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Share Your Photos / Re: Thread photos dual iso
« on: August 24, 2017, 04:18:38 AM »
Very cool @dfort !

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Share Your Videos / Re: / Moments / 50P Raw Canon 5d MIII
« on: August 19, 2017, 12:55:40 PM »
Very good!
I personally don't see the darker scenes as a problem. The thing I always say: to a technical guy, a visual engineer, the best image would be a 18% gray card, because it has the best SNR and DR, although it express nothing. Don't be afraid to step out of the technically correct, you're flowing with human perception and heuristic mechanism, not with predictable models.
Overall, pretty good. The only point I didn't liked was the typography at the end. I think a geometric sans-serif font would be better.

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