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#26
***EDIT: Ok seems I need to download the Avid DNxHD codecs????? ***

***EDIT EDIT:*** Ok I have the Avid coxdecs but which one? Aaaarrrrrrrggghhhh. So many.***

*** EDIT EDIT EDIT*** Ok so I went for Avid DNxHD 444 because it sounds most like Pro Res 444***

Anyway:

Hey @DeafEyeJedi

Cool! And yes, very steep learning curve for me in the last couple of weeks. So many helpful people!

I've got the OpenColorIO working actually as it goes!

I've downloaded Cinelog and I've got fairly far with it all.

Two quick questions you or anyone else may be able to answer actually, and save Andy a bit of stress (I've been badgering him a bit)

1) What should my output be set to in OpencolourIO? It's not quite clear to me from the quick start guide on the Cinelog site)

What I've gathered is that I can use Cinelog-C Rec709 to check the exposure, but I'm not sure whether the standard output for a 5D MKIII trying to emulate a C300 C-Log should just be 'Cinelog-C', or under the Canon menu 'Canon C-Log Cinema Gamut' etc.

Canon C-Log Cinema  Gamut is considerably darker than Cinelog -C at least in the viewer....

2) On the Cinemalog quickstart page, in After Effects under Output Module, with Quicktime checked, the format options include Avid and Pro Res, etc, but I don't seem to have any of those options for the master render. I'm under the impression that for my purposes ProRes444 is the best option, but I don't seem to have that. I shold aslo add that I'm on PC and not Mac. Not sure if that means I shouldn't be using quicktime?

Here's a screenshot of the options I do have when quicktime is checked...

http://i61.tinypic.com/2wlznet.jpg


Can anyone recommend the best option? I'll be importing to Premiere CS6, and ideally I'd like to keep the bitrate as high as poss, with the intention of getting as close to C300 C-Log as possible.

Probably going to use Film Convert in Premiere after that...

OK that's it for now!

Hoping someone can answer this here. Otherwise I guess I'll start a new thread!

Thanks for your help so far guys

Terry Tibbs.

#27
I think I've got it.

Disregard.

I was looking for an option under either Load Settings or Apply Preset.

It's in Camera Calibration.

Thanks to Mihail at Slimraw! :)
#28
Hey!

Can anyone tell me where I need to install the Cinelog V.3 Digital Camera profiles folder in order for it to work in Adobe camera Raw?

I'm using Windows 7.... I have tried Application Data/Adobe/Camera Raw/Settings and Camera Profiles, but when I go into ACR it only wants XMP files. The files in the pack are DCPs...

I can't access the online user guide for some reason

Cheers

Terry Tibbs.
#29
Hey!

Can anyone tell me where I need to install the Cinelog V.3 Digital Camera profiles folder in order for it to work in Adobe camera Raw?

I'm using Windows 7.... I have tried Application Data/Adobe/Camera Raw/Settings and camera Profiles, but when I go into ACR it only wants XMP files. The files in the pack are DCPs...

I can't access the online user guide for some reason

Cheers

Terry Tibbs.
#30
Andy! Hah! I didn't realise you were on here. Although I guess that should have been obvious in hindsight.

I have to get on with this now as I'm twiddling my thumbs, so I'm installing OpenColorIO now for After Effects. If it's running smoothly the next step will be to buy Cinelog for ACR.

This is all happening today, so I'll let you know how it goes via email. If you come up with anything in the mean time or at some point in the future that'd be awesome, but for now I just need to get the relevant footage into Premiere to get on with the edit.

As said before, I'm a photographer, so although not technically correct, I'm pretty confident in my ability to match colour by eye using whatever means. More important is getting the right 'flatness' to emulate C300 C-Log. The clips are all pretty short so I'm not too worried, so long as the average viewer doesn't notice it jump out....

If you come up with a more accurate setting for my situation at a later date I can swap the footage!

Thanks for all your emails anyway. I've learnt a lot over the last week or two!

Terry (aka Rod)
#31
Hey thanks Frank. I'll check this out :)
#32
Someone else has been mentioning Resolve Lite as well. I'm a little confused as to whether using Resolve makes ACR redundant. I'm particularly keen on using ACR....
#33
Hey Danne.

Thanks for the reply. I am climbing the walls here.

So you don't think there's a way that CinemaDNGImporter can be used for Premiere CS6? I guess TIF or PSD is not ideal...

I don't have CC, so would you recommend I just go RAW2CDNG>Cinelog>After Effects output to ProRes444>Premiere CS6?

Seems with Cinelaog I also need OpenColorIO which looks like a headache...
#34
Hi there!

Great forum!

Looking for some impartial advice...

I have been in touch with the nice chap from Cinelog, and am at least decided on using that in ACR to get a close match between the C300 footage I have shot and the pick ups on 5D RAW.

What is not entirely clear to me is what I need to do in between.

Firstly it has been suggested to me that I use Slimraw after Raw2CDNG, which will allow me to import cdngs directly into Premiere CS6, but after having downloaded the trial, I see that CS6 won't import either CDNGs or DNGs. I found something called CinemaDNGImporter which I tried, but I am told CS6 will only import at 8bit, which kind of defeats the object of shooting in 14bit MLRAW.

I am going to use Film Convert in Premiere Pro, so all I am looking at doing is getting the tone and contrast etc from the 5DIII RAW footage to fairly closely match the C-Log C300 footage. From there I can treat it all with the same grading.

I have After Effects but I don't know how to use it. But if anyone has easy steps I would be prepared to try. But ultimately, if it's possible, being able to import directly into Premiere CS6 would be ideal. Color matching is less important than tone and level matching for me, as a photographer I have a good eye for that sort of thing and can sort that out in grading after import to CS6.

So, can anyone suggest me the most simple workflow so that I can get on with this? Do I need Slimraw? Do I need After Effects?

Also not concerned about speed. I have a really fast PC, and the clips are only short pick ups.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me with this. I have a load of footage sitting here and I just want to edit it!

Terry Tibbs. X

My film:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4401636/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_4