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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: July 28, 2020, 10:24:57 AM »
Can anyone get usb video capture card to work on Eos M ?I tried but it doesnt work in mcm1080 mode but weirdly works in mcm1080 48fps mode

I don't have any experience myself, but I think I have seen quite some discussion about this in the MLV RAW ON EOS M facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/375018026655820

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: July 05, 2020, 12:32:51 AM »
I guess the most straight forward is just to test and see if you get any better real world results recording.

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: July 04, 2020, 06:03:25 PM »
Exactly. That´s why benchmarks are so fast when in play mode. Higher fps reduces the effect.

Do you think it will translate at all for 24 and more fps? To 18fps 5k ana flv?

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: July 04, 2020, 05:17:55 PM »
Im happy I didnt have time to do my guide yet ;). Still planing on doing it though. But I guess till will move some goalposts.

Edit: Or maybe not? Danne: "The card speed depends on fps. Even if the card theoretically seems to work for this it seems with 24 fps it maxes out around 57Mb/s. This is not the case with full resolution preset which runs with a reduced framerate."

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Reverse Engineering / Re: UHS-I / SD cards investigation
« on: July 04, 2020, 12:50:02 PM »
Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB 95MB/s (Card Nr 1)

Low level format in camera (Menu button -> First tool icon -> Format card -> tick in low level format and press OK)

A few tests runs of the benchmark as well as taking a picture, so card was not totally empty when I run the below benchmarks.


Modules tab -> Bench.mo ON -> Restart -> Debug tab -> sd overclock -> 160MHz -> Restart -> Debug tab ->  Benchmarks -> Card Benchmarks -> Quick R/W benchmark (1 min) -> press play

160MHz
Play-160mhz" border="0

Debug tab -> sd overclock -> 192MHz -> Restart -> Debug tab ->  Benchmarks -> Card Benchmarks -> Quick R/W benchmark (1 min) -> press play

192MHz
Play-192mhz" border="0

240MHz gave around 20 MB/s and Global Draw Off made no difference.

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: July 04, 2020, 12:45:59 PM »
192MHz mode. The 240 mode just gave me super slow speeds of 20-22MB/s. Forgot to snag a pick, if you need it tho Danne I'll wait around for it again haha.

If you look at your sd card you will find screenshots there called benchX.ppm. You can use infraview to open them and save them as jpeg for a cleaner sharing of your results.

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: July 04, 2020, 11:57:40 AM »
Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB 95MB/s

Low level format in camera (Menu button -> First tool icon -> Format card -> tick in low level format and press OK)

A few tests runs of the benchmark as well as taking a picture, so card was not totally empty when I run the below benchmarks.


Modules tab -> Bench.mo ON -> Restart -> Debug tab -> sd overclock -> 160MHz -> Restart -> Debug tab ->  Benchmarks -> Card Benchmarks -> Quick R/W benchmark (1 min) -> press play

160MHz
Play-160mhz" border="0

Debug tab -> sd overclock -> 192MHz -> Restart -> Debug tab ->  Benchmarks -> Card Benchmarks -> Quick R/W benchmark (1 min) -> press play

192MHz
Play-192mhz" border="0

Edit: 240MHz gave around 20 MB/s and Global Draw Off made no difference.

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: April 14, 2020, 12:23:06 PM »
Can you find out yourself? Personally I have no time to spend around this approach but it should be possible to dig out info by testing.

Yes, of course. Would been faster if someone already knew on the top of their head or at least knew more than me, but I can do it. How would you recommend I check? Just go through the menus and see what's there, what's missing and what's added?

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: April 14, 2020, 11:42:51 AM »
Hi again.

Compared to the features of the nightly builds at https://builds.magiclantern.fm/features.html which features are added or removed/not working in the crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd_raw_only_2020Jan18.EOSM202?

Hope answering wont be to hard, but if I am to go through the different features in the guide (with the help of the wiki) it would be a great starting point to know the above.

Cheers/ Tullen

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: April 13, 2020, 12:03:54 PM »
Hi again. I apologize for the many posts and that I might ask for feedback a bit early in the development, making it harder for you to come with useful feedback. Never the less, here is another question.

Desired outcome concept
I am planing to structure the guide around the concept of "desired outcome" where "The camera settings, lens and lens settings used, sd card, other accessories and post processing decides how useful a tool the total system is to achieve a desired outcome." So basically, what kind of film clip you want to end up with.

Examples
Here a desired outcome could be: A clean noise free "cinematic looking" (shallow depth of field) shot of a person in front of a monument at night. Or: A sharp, high dynamic range shot of a landscape with a wide viewing angel. Or: A slow motion clip.

Aspects related to desired outcomes
So far I have identified the following aspects that relates to desired outcomes (and to the settings and tools that we can use with the Eos M camera):
Depth of field (cinematic look?/ lens and lens settings used)
Slow motion (high fps/post processing)
Framing (crop factor and lens/speed booster)
Image quality (noise, moire, clippings (highlight detail), crushing (shadow detail), sharpness, jello effect, dynamic range)
Image stabilization (gimbal, post process stabilization or other)

Looking for feedback
What do you think about this approach?
Have I missed any relevant aspects?

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: April 12, 2020, 05:21:04 PM »
@Danne

Is the dedicated download post the one on page 71?

As for your suggestion, I will continue with the structure I started and then see that I have included the aspects you mention. I will surelly come back with more specific questions.

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: April 12, 2020, 04:15:16 PM »
Thanks, that what I thought.

So far I came up with these as relevant sources of information for the Eos M and ML:

Main Magic Lantern Eos M thread
MLV RAW ON EOS M facebook group
Wiki
Zeek youtube

Would you add any other? EOSHD? Reddit?

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: April 11, 2020, 04:51:50 PM »
Since I dont think I will be able to maintain it continuously I think I will make it for the latest build (crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd_raw_only_2020Jan18.EOSM202). Then maybe if there will be a new build I will update it in half a year or so. Of course, if other people want to maintain it with updates, thats great. Obviosly the content can/will be added to the wiki where it fits. Will just start somewhere that makes sense to me and then we will see how it all fits together. It might have been better to continue on one of the efforts thats already been started, but I just have to start where my motivation lies, and then hopefully it will be incoperated wherever its useful.

Instead of having a static list that I update here in the forum every other day, I decided to make the lists in a drive document. Everyone should feel free to edit the document. But dont worry, I will post the first draft here for feedback once its reached a sufficient level.

Here is the link to the doc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1G6qU_Tzm4LbkIqMdHFUnH6sOoCIXrH3EJQ1ccenarS4/edit?usp=sharing

Btw, is the build feature website (https://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/features) relevant for the latest build (crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd_raw_only_2020Jan18.EOSM202)?

Cheers, Tullen

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Camera-specific discussion / EOS M Guide and FAQ
« on: April 11, 2020, 02:36:59 PM »
EOS M Guide and FAQ

Hi everyone.

Since I am also in kind of lock down as many others I thought I would finally get around to play with the Eos M. I already have two Eos 50D but I never really took the time to learn how to us ML with them properly. I have had many thoughts on how to best structure all the information here on the forum to enable people to help where needed and understand the different features and for which cameras and how they work. However, I realized that the motivation was just not strong enough to convert the thoughts into action.

Now since I kind of have to learn everything from the start I thought I might as well try to make something useful of it to help others too, at least when it comes to the EOS M. So I am planing to make a beginner guide with a faq for the Eos M. I will simply start it as a seperate thread and hopefully it will be good enough so it can be refered to here when people ask recuring questions. Hopefully it will make it easier for people who just want to get up and running and maybe it will reduce the amount of repeating questions and answers (although I am aware that the developers do encourage people to reade the thread themselfs, at lest from page 71).

FIRST STEPS I WILL TAKE:
The first step is to make a list of things that should be included in this guide/faq as well as list of sources for relevant information. Feel free to share your thoughts on what should be included in these lists. I also plan to go through this forum thread from around page 70 and see what questions people have as well as common mistakes that are done.

Hope to have a first draft of the lists tonight or tomorrow, but feel free to come with suggestions already.

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon 50D
« on: February 07, 2020, 03:17:48 PM »
@reddeercity
This is great news. I acutally have 50d and a Canon Eos M, and I was just giving up hope on the 50d compared to the M, but now they could work nicely together. Would you like feedback and help with testing in this thread or over at the 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams thread?

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: January 20, 2019, 05:30:12 PM »
Regarding motion blur. What shutter speed do you think is good? 1/125 or faster?

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: January 20, 2019, 04:16:48 PM »
@ AF-OFF

Thanks for the help. Any recommendations for how to get proper exposure. Since the light falling on the moon will change as the shadow disappears.

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Share Your Videos / Re: Lunar Eclipse
« on: January 20, 2019, 04:10:55 PM »
Any recommendations for capturing the super blood moon tomorrow morning?

I have a eos m, a 220mm F4.0 and a 135mm F2.8. 

Would love some recommendations for what lens to use and what crop mode to use. How to set proper exposure. Dual iso? Anything would help. Dont have that much experience with Magic Lantern yet, and almost none with shooting the moon. Unfortunately I only have one battery at the moment so that will be a problem to. Guess it will be around -10 outside.

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: January 20, 2019, 03:39:59 PM »
SUPER BLOOD MOON.

This development speed is insane and great. In current options, what would you recommend for capturing the super blood moon tomorrow morning? I have a 220mm F4.0 that I though I could use with the options with highest crop and best light handling. Or should I go for the 135mm F2.8? Dual iso I guess would be good too. Any suggestions for settings and workflow?


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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: December 11, 2018, 11:02:17 PM »
is there any way to get the "framing" liveview work on an external display? whatever i choose for preview, it's showing "realtime" for hdmi external. by the way, i searched but i couldn't really get 1x3 crop mode, it shows at liveview and records very wide. i can provide footage does it need to be dng or are compressed formats okay? (i'm using mlv app on windows and i'm really grateful to both firmware and software developers.)

I'm also very interested in this. Anyone knows? Would be great to be able to use the monitor and get proper framing. Another option if it works would be to output full frame (without 5x) and have a frammarking on. Even though a lot of the display would not be in use its not as big of an issue on a 7" or 9" monitor.

Any ideas?

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: December 11, 2018, 12:32:54 AM »
@Danne

When using your crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd_isogain_1x3_presets_2018Dec08.EOSM202.zip, the recording sometimes shuts down due to to slow memory write speed. I'm using a Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB.

- Installed and played around a bit with Magic Lantern.
- Set canon camera to manual film mode. Set the camera to 1080p 24 fps and Pal in canon menu.
- Did a low level format of the memory card in camera.
- Removed the old ML folder from the memory card and extracted the ML folder and the .DS Store, autoexec.bin and ML-SETUP.FIR to the root of the memory card from the crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd_isogain_1x3_presets_2018Dec08.EOSM202.zip (ignoring the MACOSX folder). Safe eject card from memory reader.
- Went into manual fotomode and updated the firmware. When prompted restarted the camera. Set the camera to film mode (manual).
- Opened magic lantern and loaded the crop_rec, lua, mlv_lite, mlv_snd and sd_uhs modules. Restart.
- Set  sd_uhs to autorun. Restart
- Go to movie tab and enable Crop Mode 2.5k 2520x1304 and set to 12 bit in Crop Mode submenu. Set FPS override to 23.976 and optimized for exact fps. Restart
- Go to movie tab and enable RAW, set bit depth to 12 and resolution to 2560 (which sets it to 2520x1308).

If I then try to record, the recording shuts down immediately.

If I put the RAW to 12 bit lossless it can record to up to a minute before stopping. Also, if I set it to 12 bit lossless the display becomes much darker. Gets brighter when I half-press shutter button.

So maybe the sd_uhs is not enough to record in 12 bit or 12 bit lossless at this resolution? If I set the Crop Mode to 10 bit and RAW to 10 bit it also shuts down after a few frames.
Setting the Crop Mode to 10 bit and the RAW to 11...8 bit lossless it seems to record continuously, but then the image is scrambled and of course  I'm still stuck with the dark display.

I'm sure I am doing something wrong, or maybe the dark display thing is a know issue, but I did not find anything when searching this tread so maybe you or others have some tips?

Cheers and thanks for all the amazing work.

EDIT: Seems none of the clips I took work when checking in mlvapp :(. So Im probably in much more trouble than I thought about just the dark image and 10 bit. How did you go about it alpicat?

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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: December 09, 2018, 05:42:09 PM »
I just got the same results when starting the camera and shutting it down before 2.5k script had finished running. Camera stuck at sensor cleaning, and had to pull battery. But cant reproduce it.

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Share Your Videos / Re: EOS M - Full frame raw with Viltrox speed booster
« on: December 07, 2018, 11:56:56 PM »
Does it accept EF-S lenses?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Unfortunately not Canon ef-s (maybe those are the only ones called that?). Those lenses protrude and will hit the glas. Other lenses for aps work, like my Tokina, but sadly some firmware issues with the Tamron. But yes, you will get vignetting. I can take some pictures to illustrate.

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Share Your Videos / Re: EOS M - Full frame raw with Viltrox speed booster
« on: December 06, 2018, 07:02:26 PM »
I just bought what I think is the complete EOS-M setup (minus some power stuff).

The adapter mentioned here: Viltrox EF-EOS M2
VILTROX Canon EF-EOS M AF adapter mount (normal without focal reducer)

Tamron af 17-50mm f2,8 sp xr di-ii ld aspherical (if)
Tokina AT-X PRO 11-16mm 1:2.8 SD (IF) DX

VILTROX DC-70 HD 7 inch Professional ­High-definition Monitor
VILTROX L116T Led light
Viltrox VL-200 led light

G6 Plus Fyfeiyutech Gimblal.
2 x Sandisk Extreme Pro 128GB

Everything, plus the Eos m with kit lens and bag/flash, for 1430 Euros total. Exited to see what I can do with this.

Unfortunately, even with the newest firmware the Viltrox EF-EOS M2 adapter does not seem to work with the Tamron af 17-50mm.
Also, havent tested the gimbal with adapter and the lenses. Lets see if it works. Its rated for 800g but with adapter and and lenses it will probably weigh around 1200g.


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Camera-specific discussion / Re: Canon EOS M
« on: November 05, 2018, 10:41:00 AM »
How much does that lens cover? would it cover 2.5k wide shot you think?

Hello all - I’m a longtime lurker, seldom a poster. I’ve been messing with using my EOSM as a Digital Super 8 camera and I’m pretty happy with the results.

For the video below I used the following setup.

6mm f/1.2 Pentax TV lens (paper shim between lens and C mount-EOSM adapter, for infinity focus)
Tiffen Digital Diffusion 5 filter (reduces moire artefacts)
EOSM with latest ML build
18fps override (exact)
5x zoom
12bit lossless RAW
4:3 aspect
1440 x 1080

This video has effects applied - FilmConvert’s Super 8 grain; FCPX native “aged film” effect applied very sparingly for jitter and a little dust; a telecine’d Super 8 black frame (keyed over footage). If there is interest, I can post the ungraded footage.

https://vimeo.com/294197368/fb4876b181

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