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[Thomas Worth]

It should be clear, that we should thank Thomas Worth author of RAWMAgic application and his Rarevison LLC company for making Alex think about giving up development.

Why? Read here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11879.msg126654#msg126654

Guys, you never cease to amaze me 

If people with such skills and attitude were working in one company... Damn, you would turn the market inside-out within six months!

[out of respect for the ML developers]

Thomas, "out of respect for the ML developers" and thousands of people around the world using Magic Lantern, stop using funny emoticons like everything was a joke.

At this point situation is clear and not funny: if you don't stop doing what is considered by the authors of Magic Lantern as something at least unfair, it will be your, Thomas Worth's responsibility for sabotaging the whole project, and you personally will be responsible for stopping development of something, that was a common work of many talented people across the globe for many years.

So far, everybody involved in the project did it for free. So don't be an ass$#&% and don't try to be the first smart here, who got the idea how to make money on it.

Try to imagine that you are not greedy and arrogant, and let the development of Magic Lantern continue. You are one. But thousands of people, including many professionals, will be directly hurt by your actions if A1ex - the one who made RAW filming possible - gives up on development.

Thomas Worth, do you want to help Magic Lantern users, as you claim, or you want to stop this collective effort by making some money on it?

This is not your private business. Try to care and realize, that there are other people out there.

I would also like to have option for donating by PayPal, if it doesn't create any fiscal problems for the receiver, ofc.

As for the RawMagic issue... well, as far as I understand, there's opinion, that Thomas Worth misuses something that was intended to be a non-profit community effort started by Trammel Hudson and now developed by A1ex and other devs.

If those who contributed most to the project feel, that what Thomas does is against the idea, why not to remove the RawMagic thread and discussion from this forum and stop promoting it here? If someone doesn't respect suggestions from people who gave him tool to make money, and doesn't want to contribute to development process, why bother? You moderate the forum, you know what attitude and what tools you want to promote here.

Looking from outside, for me it's simple: if there are doubts, remove (unfair) moneymaking from the forum. When problems and are solved and situation is clear, welcome the businessman back as part of community.

I have great respect for all skilled people who GAVE us Magic Lantern and sacrificed own free time to do this. Thank you.

This is how it looks in my case:



Actual picture:


mlv, Nightly.2014Jul16.5D3123, GD On
Screenshots from different clips, but same framing.

Just received this information.


"Thank you for your interest in the following item:

Lexar 64GB Professional 1066x Compact Flash Memory Card (UDMA 7)
(B&H # LECF1066X64G)

You are receiving this message because you asked to be notified when this item becomes available. We regret to inform you that this item has unfortunately been discontinued. Please check back on our website for similar or possible replacement items.
We apologize for this inconvenience and appreciate your understanding. "


Now what with all people who ordered them almost 2 months ago and still wait?

First of all, i think this (in such form or another) should be put on the front page of ML site:

"I'm trying to build a community that does not just consume whatever we give to them, but I want this community to actually participate in the development process, help each other, and share the knowledge. We gave you some free software, we gave you a proof of concept that you found useful, and now we expect you all to take this software at the next level, and let us build upon your work, in the same way as you have built upon ours. I'm quite far from this utopian goal though, but this is the direction I want ML to go."

Audionut, I agree with every point you made. Seriously. Even despite I'm not an active forum member and I don't bring much to the community, I observe the whole process of developing Magic Lantern with great interest. When ML seemed to need some backup, I helped a bit to raise the temp in Alex's thermometer because I thought it was one of those moments, when development might go on or fail.
I don't use my camera (5D2 before and 5d3 now) for commercial purposes and I didn't try RAW, yet, but I'd like to help somehow anyways. And here's the point: seriously, I didn't know that I'm even remotely expected to compile stuff by myself. Sorry, I can't do this and there's slim chance I'm going to learn programming, even if continuity of the project depends on that. Please understand, that it doesn't mean I want to be a parasite who mindlessly uses other people's work, but right now I can't allocate time and energy to do it. And I think it's the case with many of the users. It's not about being lazy. It's about being able to do it.

Another thing is that form many of you, guys, who are experienced in reverse engineering, coding and stuff, testing new builds and new functions is the most trivial thing on earth. BUT for majority of users (I mean those who read warnings and disclaimers before using stuff) risk of bricking the camera, which in some cases was acquired at cost of many denials, is something that really matters. No risk, no fun - maybe, but at the end you might end up with a brick. Of course there's no doubt that many people on the forum will do everything to help with the (potential) issue, but without any practical knowledge about what you do, you end up with a brick in your hands. Trust me, having few ERR 70 messages and hang-ups during recent tests was really scary for me.

Please don't get me wrong. I can't describe how impressed I am with your work, guys. It's truly unbelievable. And while I understand that sometimes lack of expected feedback from user base can be really frustrating, please keep in mind, that besides passive users, there are those willing to help, but some of the tasks are simply beyond their reach.
I wish everybody was happy with the outcome of this project: developers, because of time and effort spend on it, and average users because of having new, incredible tools in their hands, but how to do it, I don't know.

Maybe it's time to simplify the forum somehow, and make ONE place for stuff that needs to be tested? Without all those "scary" programing terms and notions that make average users feel they are not being able to deal with stuff on such level of complexity? Just simple description in layman's terms.

Anyways, good luck. Just wanted to share user's point of view with you.

This is how it looks in my case:
No mirroring.

Screen layout 16:10 HDMI, t/b with external monitor set to Underscan
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bo6nz6ub5lafb8d/HDMI_under.jpg


16:10 HDMI, t/b with external monitor set to Overscan
https://www.dropbox.com/s/62k8z7b3hercwg3/HDMI_over.jpg

Another set of VRAM dumps, this time without mirroring. I think I might have skipped few modes, because didn't have the list with me and was doing other things at the same time. So if you want me to repeat something, just let me know.
Added zoom modes on external monitor, as a1eks wanted (1.4x, 5x, 10x, Panavision).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ee4vq9ybaq7isdq/VRAM3.zip