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How long where your takes? As per my tests under some conditions I was able to shoot for around 2-2.30 min. so if you're takes were shorter than this, you probably wouldn't ever notice there's a problem.

If you're shooting very long takes, and your built-in monitor is also active, may I suggest that there could be an overheating situation at work?

The build I used was from May 16. I suspect it's not the build but the firmware thing. I don't think 1.2.3 is stable yet for rock solid performance.

If you want absolute, no BS, rock solid performance on the 5D3, I think it's 1.1.3 and .raw. Everything else starts etching away at performance and stability (although in my experience .mlv did fine, but for instance when I use .mlv I need to turn off Global Draw while with .raw I could keep Global Draw on without any issues.).

Same here when recording stops unexpectedly.

Duplicate Questions / Re: Raw video Mark II jagged edges
« on: June 28, 2014, 09:09:19 PM »
I think that's just the 5D2's line-skipping aliasing at work. You're just noticing it more now since you're looking at footage with a great deal more detail.

I assume you've switched off Global Draw, and possibly even audio recording?

About 2 weeks ago, we recorded with two external HDMI monitors connected (well...chained) and shot about 700Gb of footage without a single dropped frame or corrupted frame. The camera was incredibly stable, then again it's on 1.1.3 and not 1.2.3.

Raw Video Postprocessing / ProRes 4444 XQ
« on: June 28, 2014, 05:55:48 AM »
New Codec was released by Apple (along with new versions of FCPX). I winder if this new codec will be an even better intermediate or even finishing format for all of our 14bit raw file?

Raw Video / Re: Reliable for professional work? (5Dm3)
« on: June 26, 2014, 08:12:52 PM »

You really need to use ML a lot, and get to know it inside and out to understand all of its quirks. If you do your homework (and unfortunately the majority of people don't), you can absolutely use it reliably on pro shoots.

On my last film shoot, we had perhaps the most reliable and smooth experience with ML on a 5D3. No corruption whatsoever, no weird black levels. Everything was solid and the audio syncs perfectly.

We had a couple of small issues on set. One of the CF cards started acting a bit funny and dropping frames about halfway through the shoot. I suspect the camera was running very hot and the card was affected by the temperature because when I got it home everything worked perfectly again. The 3 other CF cards did well through the entire shoot without problems.

The key is knowledge and preparation (and a DIT that really understands the format and knows how to check it and process it). It's not a plug-and-play system, it requires dedication to it, but if you're willing to roll up your sleeves and do your homework, it can absolutely be a very reliable and stable way to capture footage.


I would also point out that high end cameras (particularly RED) are prone to failures in the field. Here's an oldie but goodie that will make your skin crawl:

You know that saying "You only get one chance to make a first impression?"

Well, I gave Pomfort Cliphouse at least 3 of them and was not pleased with the impression starting with crashes, and then keeping me from running in demo mode due to an "expired trial period" which I never got. Pomfort's activity on these forums hasn't been particularly frequent which in turn has led me to believe that their priorities lie elsewhere.

The lack of .mlv support at this stage is unfortunately yet one more reason why Pomfort doesn't fit my needs.

I really wish that Jeff Orig of would take some time to discover other apps such as RAWMagic and MLRawViewer which have really made the post workflow of ML raw a much better experience than it was even a few months ago.

Duplicate Questions / Re: New fast SD cards
« on: June 26, 2014, 01:44:07 AM »
Question has been asked before so please do a search before arbitrarily starting a new wasteful thread.

The answer is no, you're limited by the camera, and further, the SD chip in Canon cameras is not compatible with UHS-II technology required by these fast cards.

Lastly, even if you could record at a crazy speed, the maximum resolution is limited by what the data feed coming from the sensor is, so on a 5D3 that means 1920x1288. You could go up to crop mode, but IMHO that opens up some other compromises that might or might not be acceptable.

If you want to shoot at 2.5K in raw, you might consider the Blackmagic Cinema Camera.

Got into a massive argument today with a friend editor. He doesn't see the advantage of giving Resolve a try, while to me it's as clear as day. The ability to have NLE and final grading under the same app is amazing. I think he's missing out.

Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: Premiere pro 8.0 native support?
« on: June 25, 2014, 12:32:32 AM »
I'm switching to Resolve 11. After watching the video of the new NLE capabilities, I'm convinced that Resolve will do 90% of what I need to do.

For having actually invented the format, Adobe sure has a weird way of supporting CDNG.

Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: Premiere pro 8.0 native support?
« on: June 24, 2014, 05:58:41 PM »
Has anyone tried to do a Dynamic Link from CDNG clips in Premiere to Aftereffects?

In my tests, the CDNG sequence comes into Aftereffects as a single frozen frame and doesn't playback. The solution that I found is to replace the footage in Aftereffects after the Dynamic Linking with the CDNG sequence, but this is a clunky workaround.

Does anyone know if there's a way to send a Dynamic Link to Aftereffects where things actually work as they should?

Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: MLV to CDNG Mac?
« on: June 23, 2014, 05:33:29 PM »
But as I can see, it is now possible to import cDNG directly to PP without AE. But does it really require a .mlv format? I mean, it's gonna be a cNDG format anyway?

That is correct, it doesn't matter if it's .raw or .mlv, once converted to CDNG, you'll be able to work with it in Premiere.

I still think you need the paid version of RAWMagic to be able to get CDNG which display correctly in Premiere.

Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: Premiere pro 8.0 native support?
« on: June 22, 2014, 06:59:24 AM »
Would it be better to buy one 1TB SSD drive or 2 500Gb SSD's? Looks like a pair of 500Gb's would run $500 and one 1Tb would run about $400.

I didn't realize there are 1Tb SSD drives available already. Pretty cool actually, do you have a link you can post to the one you're looking at?

But to answer your question, I think it's preferable to have 1 drive for apps and OS, and 1 for nothing but your media.

Raw Video / Re: 5D Raw vs. Alexa vs. BMCC
« on: June 21, 2014, 09:47:36 PM »
The more I work on Alexa shoots, the more I feel that the 5D3 with ML raw can easily act as a B-camera. The footage will intercut fairly seamlessly.

The Alexa is a fine camera, and it would be my #1 choice for a serious shoot, but the 5D3 has matching detail with the ability of getting very useable footage up to 3200ISO which is almost unheard of on any other camera.

Of course, shooting on a camera that was really never designed for video has some substantial disadvantages, but the small form factor, large sensor, high ISO performance and ML raw capability makes it a very good contender for many uses, and IMHO a better option than the Blackmagic cameras in many cases.

Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: Premiere pro 8.0 native support?
« on: June 21, 2014, 09:43:09 PM »
You need to decide if you're determined to work with CDNG raw files or if you're going to transcode to ProRes, DNxHD or some other compressed format.

If it's CDNG, then I think the media needs to live on the SSD drive. Unfortunately SSD drives aren't that big and are pricey. Ideally you'd want 2 SSD drives in that laptop, a 500Gb for media, and either a 240 or 500 for your apps.

IMHO 7200 rpm mechanical drives (particularly ones for laptops) are not going to give you a satisfactory performance when working with raw CDNG files.

Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: Premiere pro 8.0 native support?
« on: June 21, 2014, 06:58:07 PM »
Hey everyone - finally got a chance to play with CC 14. I imported the CDNG into premiere and everything looks great, but when I go to play back it's not realtime.. it gets kind of choppy. I have 24Gb DDR3 PC1600, use the CUDA setting to pull from my GeForce GTX670M card, and have an i7 processor... I thought that should be more than enough for playback. I'm just playing with test shots now, but this will be a major issue once I go to cut together my next short. Any thoughts or tips to get realtime?

Most people put all the emphasis on CPU, and they don't realize that a major bottleneck is the speed of the drive that's serving the media. You make no mention whatsoever of what drive all of those CDNG files are living on. According to my tests, most 7200rpm drives can barely sustain 80Mb/sec, and I believe 16bit CDNG require more bandwidth than that. My solution has been to use a RAID 0 made up of 2 7200rpm Barracuda drives which gets me in the 150Mb/sec which is more capable of realtime playback. Since you mention that your GPU is a mobile one, then I assume you're on a laptop. My advice would be to suggest you put all your media on an SSD drive then.

Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: MLV to CDNG Mac?
« on: June 20, 2014, 08:01:35 PM »

but i was told some days ago that it will be "released in the summer" which also could be july, august.. :(
i am waiting hard. it will outshine premiere pro, cause it is so fast.. also with cdng files.. and the tracker is one of the best and fastest in the world..

Well, the public beta is supposed to be out any day, and my guess is that it will be solid enough to work quite well. It's possible that the "official" release will follow in a couple of months.

Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: Premiere pro 8.0 native support?
« on: June 19, 2014, 07:33:22 PM »
It's a shame there's no mlv native support but at least we have better 16 bit cdng support and handling, i hope at least resolve 11 comes with mlv native support.

It would appear that 16bit CDNG's in Premiere 8 still suffer from pink highlights (not an overall pink cast but any overexposed highlights will go pink).

Also, I doubt that MLV will be natively supported by Resolve 11, maybe in the future, but it will require some conversation to be opened between Blackmagic and ML.

Any day now guys. Blackmagic assured me that this wouldn't be a June 30th at 11:59pm release.

Raw Video / Re: 5D Raw vs. Alexa vs. BMCC
« on: June 16, 2014, 06:31:59 AM »
I'm not a colorist so it's possible that in better hands the footage and dynamic range would be better.

Any day now!

My best guess is that they will try to crap on Adobe's parade on the 18th by releasing Resolve 11 on the same day!

Raw Video / Re: Video RAW preview on camera
« on: June 14, 2014, 08:08:28 PM »
You really need to have a laptop on set so that you can get a proper playback of what you just shot. It's the only way to properly gauge the quality of what you're getting.

Raw Video / Re: Spanning
« on: June 14, 2014, 06:26:44 AM »

3.  I have a 16GB Lexar 1000x, and for me, this card is not quite able to record 1920x1080 consistently.  Sometimes I might get 1000 frames, or only 200 frames.

I really hate how inconsistent CF card speeds seem to be. On most of my Komputerbay 1000X I can sustain 1920x1288 in .raw, but .mlv with audio means just 1080p for me.

I've been wondering if the new Komputerbay 1066X would be able to sustain 1920x1288 with sound in .mlv?

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