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#51
I recently lost my memory card so I got an identical model and extracted http://nanomad.magiclantern.fm/650D/magiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Aug03.650D104.zip to the root of the card. I than replaced the ML directory and autoexec.bin with the latest from satriani so I now have those files plus the install and help pdf's plus the fir file but ML is acting weird now, zebras work sometimes but not always and when i try to view the built in help files it says they aren't there. What should I do?
#52
I think a new thread for people that upgraded their firmware is needed. I used to like seeing the posts here but i'm tired of every post being people whining about how they upgraded their firmware. That's their problem, they didn't read previous posts. boo hoo.
#53
Quote from: neilp1 on July 05, 2013, 03:53:39 PM
Hi there

Anyone have any advice on finding the auto ETTR option on the 04-07-2013 build? I only seem to have manual ramping in the intervalometer settings. Do i have to add/load a module or am i missing something?

Thanks

Auto ETTR is in the exposure menu if that build has it. I believe it should.
#54
Quote from: Stevenbaril on July 05, 2013, 06:54:36 AM
Thanks newsense!

No problem and keep living life large. That's the key to a long happy life.
#55
Quote from: demetrisag on July 05, 2013, 12:13:06 AM
he blind?

I was just being funny using the same font size as the persons question I was answering. I'm sure he's not blind if he has a camera.
#56
Quote from: Stevenbaril on July 04, 2013, 11:21:50 PM
I'm new to ML, and am wondering how to shoot RAW video. I'm using the latest build from Satriani.

You need to load the Module under "Modules" and turn it on under "Movie"
#57
Quote from: nanomad on June 23, 2013, 10:55:40 AM
It all depends if you are willing to handle the increased complexity of the raw workflow. As a suggestion shoot a 720p raw, upres it to 1080p and see how that compares to native H264 1080p. I suspect the quality will be the same if not better. The color latitude is definitely bigger. And you get no moire if you shoot in 5x zoom mode jut like the good old 600D

Nanomad, sorry if this is a stupid question but how do you shoot in zoom mode on the 650D?
#58
Quote from: tommix on June 16, 2013, 03:31:34 PM
I hope raw will never work on this camera so everybody will stop spending time on this crappy feature. Beginners do not need raw video, pro' don't buy this kind of level cameras.
Really hope devs don't spend their time on raw for this cam, cause there is more important thing to do to make this alpha to beta.

Since you seem to be rich why don't you go buy an Alexa or RED and don't worry about what us budget camera users are doing with our cameras.
#59
Quote from: kostasra on June 14, 2013, 04:48:38 PM
Want to see who will press it !!!  ;D

You never pressed it? I think it was like the 3rd thing I did after putting ML on my camera.
#60
Quote from: 1ricca on June 14, 2013, 10:16:01 AM
Correction.... you can use touch controls to select a WB preset from the Q menu in Video Mode. The D-Pad doesn't work in the way we described though.

SOLVED THEN FOR NOW:

1. Go to Q menu
2. Go to WB presets
3. Just touch a preset or the Auto preset

Wow, I feel so stupid now. I said I tried everything and I did besides touch screen. When I got the camera I only used the screen than I got ML and realized how much faster you could navigate using the buttons, thanks for finding this.
#61
Quote from: a1ex on June 14, 2013, 07:02:52 AM
I'm sure you can, just as with all other Canon cameras ;)

I tried everything I could think of. I like to use some of the canon presets sometimes in a pinch and the only solution I found is to go into photo mode to change it from kelvin to Canon presets
#62
Quote from: a1ex on June 14, 2013, 06:27:47 AM
Yeah, but you can use Canon menu for that, don't see why it should be added in ML...

In video mode you cant change it via Canon menu as far as I know. Only way I know is to change to photo mode and change it via quick menu.

I should mention I am using Satriani's build from may 31st.
#63
Had to vote for you too after I saw you put one of Andrew Kramer's tutorials to use, looks good.
#64
Quote from: Aborgh on June 13, 2013, 09:37:19 PM
And how is that done? :P Someone want to point me in the right direction?

you could use a mask with a copy underneath shifted a few pixels over or a wire removal tool or paint it out. 
#65
Quote from: satriani on June 13, 2013, 01:54:42 PM
Get out from the ML menu and press "Q"

Choose the empty orange border, in the picture.



And that is what you are looking for:



I think the developers will add it to the ML menu. Am I right Nanomad?  :P

How do you change WB back to canons WB from video mode if you wanted to?
#66
Quote from: comatose on June 13, 2013, 07:54:25 AM
I'm having an issue when I go into photo review mode, when I press play to get back out of it, it instead brings up some sort of levels grid and won't let me get back to shooting mode without powering down and back on, I went through and messed with settings, turned everything off even and still am having the issue

Hit the liveview button
#67
Quote from: brewerrj on June 12, 2013, 08:19:28 PM
How can I go back from Kelvin White Balance to auto White Balance? can't find it..

I had the same problem. Only way I found was to change it from the quick menu in photo mode, yeah I know kinda a pain.
#68
I guess my only question right now is since I am shooting H264 is my best bet for trying to get a good exposure to use ML histogram set to RGB and try to expose to the center? I will most likely have questions after I follow the links you posted
#69
Quote from: Audionut on June 07, 2013, 06:20:53 PM
It's not.  But if you want to limit yourself to JPG/H.264, them's the brakes.

You should brush up a little on exposure and how to read a histogram.  There was a strong highlight in your scene that was triggering the overexposure warning in the histogram, causing the overall scene brightness to be low.

If you can retest with the same scene, enable zebras so you can see exactly what is being overexposed.  Use the same settings as the Canon exposure meter (0EV) and have a look at what's being overexposed.  Determine if that highlight is important.  If it is, then technically, ETTR was not underexposing, the Canon metering was overexposing.  If that highlight is not important, keep adjusting exposure until an important highlight does start overexposing.

Thanks for responding. Exposure seems to be a problem for me since I got my DSLR. Mainly due to a lot of conflicting information i've came across. I would shoot RAW but I only have a 650D so I am limited to H264 for now. I guess my biggest misunderstanding is should I expose based on luma or RGB? I read somewhere that even if luma channel isn't clipping individual RGB channels clipping can throw away color data. I understand what you mean by only worrying about important highlights clipping, I generally ignore clipped bright windows. From your response I assume you suggest ETTR based on readings from the ML histogram rather than the canon EV meter? Sorry if my questions seem a little noobish but I am fairly new to DSLR and thanks for your time.
#70
Quote from: Cliff on June 07, 2013, 04:28:08 PM
I cant find it either. And would use it every day if it was there! I shoot long events often!

Thanks

Cliff

I don't believe it's in ML for the 650d yet. If you highlight movie tweaks under the video menu in ML you can see it listed but when you enter movie tweaks it's not there, i'm guessing when it's added it'll be there.
#71
Quote from: Audionut on June 04, 2013, 04:04:55 AM
@newsense.

When shooting in JPG or H.264 where post processing is destructive, I would recommend shooting with the correct exposure (0EV on the meter) in camera.

Not arguing your point but what uses do the waveform and histogram have if canon's EV meter is the best exposure tool? I just shot 4 videos. One exposing at 0EV on Canon's EV meter, one using ETTR making sure not to clip any RGB channels or luma using ML histogram, one using ETTR making sure not to clip luma using ML histogram and one using the ML histogram and exposing in the center. All were shot using neutral PS and before CC they don't look that much different besides the one where I used ETTR and made sure not clip any RGB channels, that one looks pretty underexposed. Maybe after CC I can come up with the best way to expose.
#72
yeah, hit info until you get to the ML overlay
#73
Quote from: AlecWild on June 03, 2013, 03:04:29 AM
Hi folks,

Noob question - I installed the pre-alpha (satriani's latest daily build). No problems installing, but the overlay menu is grayed out. I can toggle the options, but focus peaking, magic zoom, crop marks, etc., - none of them work when I toggle them on. I'm in live view, movie mode, etc. Could someone tell me what I'm missing?

Make sure Global Draw is on
#74
I'm sorry but after reading this thread and all the linked articles I think I am even more confused. If I understand correctly ETTR only makes sense if shooting raw and not 8bit, is that correct? Since I am not shooting raw where does that leave me, ETTR , expose in the center or ETTL and does picture style make any difference when setting exposure? If I am using a "neutral" or "flat" picture style would I set my exposure using that picture style or set exposure with a standard style and than shoot "neutral"? Thanks in advance.
#75
Quote from: ChodaBoy on May 22, 2013, 08:05:04 PM
I wonder if the T5i fixed this by using the 208MHz part?

Good question. Got a T5i, if so could you open it up and see what SD controller it uses?