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Are you in Movie Mode?  I don't think it works in any of the photo modes.

It's only working in movie mode?! If that was so, it'd be worth putting into the help display, I'm a just simple country photog and cannot keep up with the fast-paced features ye big city folk are using :-p ...

... but even in movie mode it's the same as in lv: with my config the arrow keys just move the white zoom rectangle around, SET does nothing. I'm wondering anyway why different options for the arrow keys can be activated together (like iso/kelvin AND audio gain) - all in all: I just don't get it.

I use ML 2.3 with the Canon 60D. With the new version I have some problems with bracketing.

Maybe this isn't really helpful :-o but on my 60d bracketing works just fine (I only use it outside lv) with correct exif data in either manual or av mode with either fixed or auto-selected # of frames...

Um, maybe I'm missing something obvious here, but on my 60d I cannot get the "Arrow/SET-shortcuts" to work (ml 2.3).

I tried "Audio Gain" and/or "ISO/Kelvin", but neither the SET button nor the arrow keys produce any result in or outside live view. The built-in help isn't helping... maybe I still have set something else that collides with this feature, but I tried to turn off everything else that uses the arrows or set keys.

Full read: http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/ISO

Thanks for the link, so this is even more complicated than I though and I'm lucky iso selection with ml is limited on 60d :-p
* ISO 85, 175, 350, 700, 1400, 2800 - best for Neutral -4 and other low-contrast styles.
* ISO 80, 160, 320, 640, 1250, 2500 - good for a wide range of situations.
* ISO 70, 140, 280, 560, 1100, 2200 - best for high-contrast styles.

We all know that the best ISOs with minimum of noise is 160, 320, 640, 1250 and 2500.

We do :-p ? Please point me to the source, I've missed that :-o

However, I found this blog providing some Information about the ETTL-protocol, its might helpful:

Ah yes, and please make ettl support 2nd curtain sync on remote flashes while you're at it, will you :-p ?

Using the wireless mode canon provided on 600D is not the same as using a radio transmitter or a 580 because you will have some light from the on camera flash that sometimes get into the scene (usually it's more visible on reflections).

... what's more, the built-in flash cannot trigger hss on remote flashes, so you need a 580ex-type master flash to use hss on any Canon flash like the 430ex-type slaves. High speed sync is a major advantage of the Speedlites in comparison to cheaper 3rd party flashes or systems, and only using the built-in flash as master deprives the Speedlites of it.

So to the question itself, implementing the wireless flash protocol to trigger flashes by turning the camera into a master and is unrealistic?

I'm not a dev, but Francis just answered that: It would be very difficult to reverse engineer = wouldn't make much sense given the effort (if possible at all) vs. the target audience vs. other things that can be done with the dev time- 5d2/5d3 don't have a flash, newer crop bodies like 60d/7d/... can be wireless master. And older Canon master flashes are really cheap used, esp. since Canon switches to the new radio protocol and heaps of photogs sell their 580ex2.

But so far as I know, there is no way to trigger the external flash with a camera without a built-in master, even without any metering?

Yep, that's why it's called master, so you need big a 580ex-type if you want Canon tech. There are of course excellent 3rd party solution like Pocket Wizard that can do things Canon cannot like remotely triggering dumb studio flashes.

Concerning optical remote: Since Canon moves to radio control with the 600rt, even using the built-in flash as a master isn't possible and you need a dedicated radio controller.

Possible?

+1 for that, though it was requested before in the Google groups and I vaguely remember non-live view stuff is difficult. But fyi: Even on the 5d3 it would make sense in ml because Canon has set limited the max. min iso speed to a braindead 1/250s sec to protect their 1dx model, faster shutter speeds would make much more sense for tele shots.

From cpn: "When shooting with Auto ISO, in Program (P) or Aperture priority (Av) mode, it is possible the shutter speed could fall below a level that will allow sharp images. With the EOS 5D Mark III, you can set the minimum shutter speed to between 1sec and 1/250sec to ensure the slowest shutter speed is within a range that suits the subject you are shooting. To use this, go to the second Red shooting tab and select the 'Min. shutter spd.' option."

Fixed in revision 4930

How about the addition to make ml blink only or otherwise when it's busy? This would be a nice addition to the "turn off lcd" power saving timer - though other features might be more important though.

it's the assumption and repeated reminder I'm too dumb to know that my camera is on.

Well, you've got me there ;-) ... but the question is if this is really worth a config option. But if the devs do change it please include an option to make the blinking led actually relay some information like slow blink = idle and fast blink = ml is doing something like a timelapse!

There appears to be a permanent feature to flash the LED on the back of the 5D II (and potentially other cameras) every few seconds if the camera is on and hasn't been touched for a certain time.

Once I asked about this for the red LED on my 60d, too, since I was unsure if my camera was broken or something - and now I know: it's not a bug, it's a feature :-) ...  and personally I have gotten used to it and even find it rather helpful, I don't see any drawbacks, the battery drain should be minimal (?)

I just remembered why I almost never use the "Compare Images" feature (next to the thumb-breaking SET+Wheel :-)), maybe an improvement is possible?

1. When I use it, it's at 100% zoom to see which exposure is sharper. But since *handheld* exposures always have a shift, I never can compare the same element (like the eye of an animal where the focus is supposed to be). Is it possible to add the ability to shift one part of the split screen around to get the correct part on screen? As it is now, using the directional keys after initiating "Compare Images" quits the split screen immediately.

2. The diagonal split seems a bit awkward to me, an option to do a clear vertical split into left & right would make more sense to me personally.

Set is used as "shift" button by ML in image review mode (e.g. set + main wheel)

ok, I forgot that, don't use it often - so scrap that request.

I just noticed that the SET-Button does nothing when reviewing pictures (I know SET is taken otherwise), at least with my config on 60d. Is this just me, or is this button really not used? If so, I guess I can come up with some great ideas on how to use it :-) because it is in convenient close range when flipping through pictures with the wheel and panning the picture with the direction buttons...

The check for infinity or max macro should be already there, doesn't work in stack focus?

Actually I don't think I ever tried, my focus stacks obviously never were up to 1:1 with its ridiculously thin depth of field - I just wrote that as an innocent reminder to implement this check in focus bracketing, too.

It's available in ML 2.3....

D'oh - sorry, didn't see that, thx for implementing & marking this as [done] :-o

I would really appreciate this feature, but for movie clips.

Alex wrote somewhere else that if a function is available through the Canon menu, ml can automate it - so at least there's hope for rating images through the live view button like protect now :-)

Yes, the camera should be on its way as we speak

The most frequently asked question in the Canon Rumors forum is "When will the 5d3 port be ready" and some people stated it won't be long, even that the first version will be out in October...

... can anyone please give some prediction about how long the port will take, or alternatively just make it clear that it'll be released when it's ready and any other statement is pure guesswork?

... at least for verified members like supporters, devs etc. I'm perfectly capable of writing a meaningful post in less than 90 seconds, but with the limit now the text is gone beyond recovery if submitted too early which is rather tiresome.

Protect and Rate can be automated in all cameras that already have it in Canon menu. If Canon doesn't have Rate, ML can't implement it.

Ah, now I get it. So there might be hope for my feature request (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=1255.0) at last, just now my index finger is aching because I rated a lot of pictures through the Canon menu (on 60d: Q -> down -> down -> right -> right -> [...] -> Q) ... Argh.

They probably use ML themselves. Cheaper to let the community write the enthusiast software while focusing their own development on the brainless masses.

If so, I really wish they'd implement more hooks to improve ml's non live-view still shooting capability (af and so on)... Canon: pretty please with sugar on it?

Good question, I'd say we can integrate the two options actually. A rack-controlled mode that works like it does now and a manual mode that works like the OP asked

Great you like the idea - and yes, do what the OP asked - hey wait, that was me :->

For integrating the two modes, the sequence item could be used:
- "from Rack Focus"
- 0 + ++: focus from current point towards infinity
- 0 - --: focus from current point towards the camera (more "macro")
- 0 + -: that's what most people understand by bracketing, no?

I wonder if the "0 + -" has any drawbacks because the lens keeps focusing more than necessary around the zero point if done like in exposure bracketing? If so, another option would be to zoom out, and then start to zoom in beyond the zero point.

Btw: If possible please implement a check if the lens has reached infinity or max. macro to prevent duplicate exposures.

Others not possible.

Ugh, so they put the rate button on the 5d3 for a reason :-( if you cannot automate the "protect" function. In this case, http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=1255.0 is obsolete, too.

When shooting stills with tripod and thin depth of field, it would be nice to have the camera automatically shoot a couple of exposures with slightly different focus.

Possible implementation: Expand Focus->Stack focus menu to include a manual selection for "Number of Pictures". If it's "auto" use stack focus as it is, if it's set to a number take this amount, each with the focus changed to "Step Size". If a dev is in the mood, another option "Bracketing" would be nice to tell the camera in which direction to change the focus: "near", "far" or "both", the latter doing something like the traditional exposure bracketing around the original focus point.

EDIT: In general, I hope we'll see even more still shooting features, too, because imho that would expand the ml userbase significantly - mostly folks still seem to see ml as a video gimmick for one reason or another.