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#51
Quote from: Savely on April 26, 2017, 08:55:15 PM
But where is this experiment page? I just download build pack and mlv_dump.exe but what should I do with this exe file? I actually can't understand why it so difficult to write tutorial about how to use these
@Savely
What modes exactly? This tutorial would be a lot to go through. I assume you read DeafEyeJedi settings and you are up to speed on the new build.
I have some that would offer even more stability depending on what you are filming.
3008x1280 11-8 bit lossless MLV Lite with preview set to auto.
Crop rec mode set to 5x zoom 3.5 k mode
Also it looks like you are having post processing issues.
If so it's easy.
For windows:
1) Download RawFlow v0.2 http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13338.0
2) Download new MLV_dump https://builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html
3) Open up the Rawflow folder and delete current the MLV_Dump that came with Rawflow and replace it with the new MLV_dump you downloaded from here  https://builds.magiclantern.fm/experiments.html leave this folder open for now.
4.) download your MLVs off your card to a new folder on your computer.
5.) Open up the RAWFlow folder if you closed it.
6.) Select all your MLVs and drag and drop them right on the Rawflow.exe application icon in the Rawflow folder (note you do not have to open the exe or run it. It will do that on its own after you drag and drop mlvs on it)
7.) The app will open a command prompt window. Let it do its thing and it will place new folders in the same folder as you MLVs with DNGs for you to play with.

Hope this helps and hope this doesn't break your camera or computer. I think this workflow is similar on MAC but not sure. 
#52
@DeafEyeJedi has the magic settings here. I can verify most of this. But you need to make sure ML is on your SD card and you are recording to  your CF card that is formatted exfat from your computer. DeafEyeJedi settings are exactly what I have been using. It you want a smidge extra headroom you can set it to 2.35:1 which brings your vertical resolution down a tiny bit ... I think.

Edit: actually... I just got these settings to spike!
ISO 100 at some very bright trees! It went from like 89 MBs to 114 MBs I'll upload a dng

At the 11-8 bit Lossless with 3008x1280 I was able to get the same scene down to 90ish A1ex was right! (Not hard to believe) that you can get seemingly continuous settings to spike high! Very high
#53
@DeafEyeJedi thank you!!!

Also has anyone tried these settings? 4/23/2017 build
Crop Rec with 5x zoom 3.5k  enabled
And 12bit lossless with 3072 2.35:1 ?
It's very stable to me! Continuous with a good card!
And you can hit the DOF preview button or half shutter to zoom in with real time to focus!
I saw this mentioned but didn't try it yet. This is awesome!
I feel like real time framing preview of 3k is so close now!
(Coding wise it's probably not)
#54
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on April 24, 2017, 08:12:14 PM
Thanks @hjfilmspeed -- fixed! (It's even more flabbergasting to know that the 5D3 still looks sharper even when upscaled to 4K)  :o


DeafEyeJedi Thank you for posting those crops!
Actually, you might as well call the the 5DIII 3K - 4K. Why not canon apparently seems to think it is okay. I thought to myself, maybe its the lens.. then I was like no way, the Sigma Art prime is design to resolve way high resolution.
It could be the 422 vs the .... 444 or what ever MLV 14Bit lossless is.
Regardless, this build gets better every time. Can't wait to see what the future holds!

Oh I meant to ask this, should we be using 123 vs 113 for 5d3? It was my understanding that 113 was fine unless you need hdmi features and AF @ f8. Is this still true?
Or should we be testing 123?
#55
@DeafEyeJedi the 5diii was actually 3k 3072 1.85:1 but technically upscaled at export.
#56
Quote from: goldenchild9to5 on April 23, 2017, 08:24:27 PM
@hjfilmspeed Check it out Zoomed in to 200% & 400% Scenes 1 & 3 is a tiny tiny bit sharper than Scenes 2 & 4.  But here is the thing the tree behind the color checker seem a bit sharper in Scenes 2 & 4. 
1 and 3 are mark iii
Hmmm Ill double check my lens details to see if f-stop was different. It could be possible that focal planes where not exact. I focused both on the crosshatch with autofocus. but in any event at 400% we should be seeing a HUGE difference in sharpness here. 5dIv has 1000 more pixels. Any way I don't want to go more off topic then I have.
#57
Quote from: goldenchild9to5 on April 22, 2017, 11:02:01 PM
@hjfilmspeed Great test.. This one was pretty hard to tell the difference.  Is the 5D III scenes 2 & 4?
@ goldenchild9to5 did you download and zoom in? Which looks sharper or which do you prefer?
#58
Quote from: a1ex on April 22, 2017, 09:41:08 PM
Solved, it was just an oversight from my side.

Also fine-tuned the preview behavior: you can use a long half-shutter press to change between framing and real-time (e.g. if you normally use the centered real-time preview in x5 zoom, but you also want to check the framing every now and then, just press half-shutter for 1 second or so).
This is incredible! Soooo impressed!

Also I just replaced my test with a much better one

https://vimeo.com/214307580
This means Either Canons 5Div 4K is actually 3K
or
That we get to call 5D3 ML 3K  ... 4K
4 Clips
2 are 5div 1/100 f11 ISO 400 Sigma Art 35mm 4k
2 are 5Diii 1/50 f11 ISO 400 Sigma Art 35mm 3k  ML
14bit lossless using 4-21-2017 4K Crop Rec build
(I underexposed the 5Div because I was clipping highlights at 1/50 shutter)
Both rendered to Cineform UHD and both were precisely focussed on the crosshatch on the color chart.
Can you tell which is which.
Download and zoom in. It's a UHD Cineform AVI
5Diii was quickly graded to match Canon's neutral picture style of the 5div

#59
@goldenchild9to5 I'll post my quick test but before I hard conclude this I'll have to give the 5div a more suitable test.
I zoomed in and its really hard to to make a conclusion here but in both cases I gave the 5div the advantage especially with autofocus. First 2 shots are 1080 shots 3 and 4 are the higher resolution.
I tried to grade the RAW fairly.
See if you can tell what's what. I like the RAW better for sure.
If you download it it's a Cineform AVI in UHD
Also keep in mind I can only export UHD from Resolve.
https://vimeo.com/214307580
#60
Wow FYI everyone I just did a 5div 4k vs 5diii 3k and 5d3 3k is sooooo much sharper and much more cinematic.

Same for 1080 5diii looks a lot better! I can't believe 2012 5diii has better video quality.

I guess the real test will be when 5div gets RAW video.
#61
Quote from: a1ex on April 22, 2017, 10:00:03 AM
The shutter speed issue appears only when using the 5x preset (it appears fine without crop_rec); can you confirm?
Yup confirmed. Just crop mode 5x preset @a1ex just tested now. 5x without crop mode fine.

I also started seeing these stuck pixels pop up in 1:1 5x liveview real time iso3200 1/50 that wouldn't be there in normal 5x zoom real time. I think its Just in the liveview. I didn't try to see if it would appear in RAW file.  Focus box was in was centered in both cases. I feel like this has been covered and I appollowgize if it was.
#62
Quote from: a1ex on April 22, 2017, 08:51:49 AM
@hjfilmspeed: the centered x5 preset from crop_rec is for x5 zoom; all the others are for non-zoomed modes. The help at the bottom should tell you. You can also choose 23.976 for FPS override.


@a1ex OHHHHHH I didn't even see that option! That mode also lets you use 12bit and at 3200 iso im getting what seems to be continuous 3072x1308 24 FPS!!!! And its centered!!!!! and you can use the zoomed real time preview if you don't want to use the framing preview!!! No crashes so far.
The only thing I noticed is the shutter speed in at the bottom didn't seem to be registering the right number. Unless something else is going on here. The cameras shutter speed was 1/50 but when zoomed + fps override it showed 1/27 or 1/37 or something like that.
But wow .... This is impressive!!!!  THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!
This is much more exciting then the C- log announcement. 
#63
I just tested and this is my favorite build yet!!!

Scene is well exposed fine detail @ ISO 3200
3072 x 1308 (or what ever 2.35:1) Is working extremely well in 5x zoom 12 bit lossless fps override 24.006 and framing preview. I disable the crop rec mod while recording in 5x (not sure if I should use crop rec and 5x at the same time) converting DNGs as I type.
Edit: Out of about 10,000 frames not one bad frame!!!!!!
#64
Camera-specific Development / Re: Canon 5D Mark IV
April 22, 2017, 05:47:28 AM
I agree, the more I read, I learn its not just a look or picture style that is being applied. There is more involved.
And no doubt it will be solid and reliable which all my Canon bodies have been. I will say that Canon cameras are the most reliable pro cams that I have ever used. Because of this forum, I now know how much of a challenge that is.
And yes you could buy another battery powered device to rec the uncompressed feed.... or just use ML on a 5diii 2012 camera and rec uncompressed everything straight to the card in 1920 x 1080. 
Im going to go ahead and speculate that 5Diii RAW uncompressed or 14 bit lossless is still the winner here as far as color and grading.

Wow ... I guess that rumor really got my hopes up ha ha
Dont get me wrong I absolutely love it as a still camera. Best body I have ever used for Photo especially for weddings. But when it comes to video I would trade touch screen wifi gps video AF dual pixel yadda yadda for better crop 4k or more pro codec hands down.
#65
Camera-specific Development / Re: Canon 5D Mark IV
April 21, 2017, 08:07:47 PM
Hahahaha @myown! I'll have to try that!
#66
Camera-specific Development / Re: Canon 5D Mark IV
April 21, 2017, 05:20:38 AM
I'd pay for ML not .... C- Log.
All I have to say is thank you ML because I would have abandoned Canon for video a long time ago.
#67
Awesome!!!!!!
#68
Camera-specific Development / Re: Canon 5D Mark IV
April 20, 2017, 08:53:41 PM
Maybe I will pay for the upgrade so that I can do a side by side:
5diii 1920x1080 ML 14 bit lossless vs 5div cine style vs 5div c - log
And then most likely come to the conclusion that the upgrade was pointless.
#69
Camera-specific Development / Re: Canon 5D Mark IV
April 20, 2017, 05:13:16 PM
100$ not including shipping I assume.
I am just so disappointed. If this was more then just a flat profile upgrade then it would be worth it but seriously.... I can't justify that.
#70
Camera-specific Development / Re: Canon 5D Mark IV
April 20, 2017, 04:11:37 PM
100$ ... And I have to send my camera out!!! No resolution updates ..... Seriously canon....
Not only did a simple hoax ruin there announcement but as a 5div owner I have to pay for this? I hope all new 5Divs cost 100 bucks more cuz that is just not cool.

No thanks I'll just use RAW from ML
#71
Quote from: a1ex on April 19, 2017, 04:58:42 PM
Simple example: if you often get corrupted frames in 1080p48, dial 1040 (or some other value lower than 1080) in the Target YRES field. Then refresh the LiveView manually (e.g. press MENU twice) and the resolution in RAW video menu should update.

Set 0 to disable the override and go back to default value.
@a1ex Ohhh cool! Do you have to match the value in the MLV Lite options?
#72
Quote from: a1ex on April 19, 2017, 09:23:24 AM
For this particular snippet, vertical resolution is actually adjustable from the crop_rec submenu (no need to compile). I don't remember anyone trying to change it, even though I've mentioned it a few times (including first post).

@a1ex I have to say, I was super nervous about changing those settings since I didn't do enough research on what they mean but Ill see if I can figure it out. Has anyone one tried tweaking those? What did you find?
#73
Quote from: Walter Schulz on April 18, 2017, 08:15:47 PM
My opinion: Get rid of those experimental builds. It invites users not ready for experiments on this level.
Those wanting to go there may
a) have an environment to make their own builds
or
b) rely on a helping hand building it for them on demand.

Hmmm I not sure I agree when it comes to experimental builds. Although I guess I don't quite get what you mean by "rely on a helping hand building it for them on demand."

On one hand, the admins hold our hands and babysit us while testing. Time consuming to say the least.
On the other hand, some of us who have been using ML for years get a chance to learn about the inner workings of ML and learn how to become better testers.
Also, when it comes to working out the bugs, us inexperience ones are the best at breaking things because we don't listen.

However I do feel that people should not get upset or wine or cry or point fingers when they can't figure something out. I think people need to be more aware that this is all volunteer work. No pay for hours of endless coding. One should not complain especially when one has no clue what is involved with coding.   

But that is my humble "I don't even know what I'm talking about but should since I have been using ML for so long and I am being grossly off topic and I should know better about that too run on quote"  opinion. An opinion to which I feel I don't even deserve to give. Compared to Walter Schulz I am a dumb dumb head. 
#74
Ahh sorry @a1ex missed that. But the concept is there. This is really awesome!
#75
Sorry for the double post!!! But I Just tested 4-14 build 12 bit 3072 2.35:1 at 23.976 ISO 3200 with the old 5x zoom method and it seemed like it was endless. Over 20 secs for sure!!!! DNGS are clean and processed fine and all worked in resolve.
So the this will work for sure!!!! Just need to get the crop rec working. Way easier said then done no doubt. this is crazy tho. 3k 12bit lossless 24p on a 2012 5D