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Ordered one of these to see if I could do 1080 30p, initial tests seem to say no, below are the benchmarks.



To compare, my Lexar 128GB 1000x



Will do more testing after work tomorrow, I haven't done much ML stuff in a while, been using 1080 24p and been working flawlessly on an old build.

In all honesty I'm not too sure, but I know I don't have USB3 on my MacBook Pro.

Having Magic Lantern allow me to shoot Raw video has been a christmas present come early. You never really understand until you actually experience it yourself.  The post production possibilities with raw lead me to believe I have an opportunity at creating much more professional work. Weather or not I can pull it off remains to be seen I do know however that recording time is very limited and big, fast, reliable CF cards that record 1920 x1088/1080 are expensive.

In the event that some of the lovely people who are working on an SSD solution get it to work this might not be too important, but for now I thought I would share my workflow.

I have a professional shoot that Im going to be working on and that gives me a lot of headaches.

CF Cards, a Lexar 128Gb x1000 only holds around 30 mins (I am lucky I have two for this project)

The time to dump the CF card to my Macbook pro via USB2 is over 1 hour

The card's cost a fortune, so buying a third or fourth is out of the question

So how can I recycle the cards quicker?

I'm not taking any credit for this build as it wasn't mine, however It does work and it cuts the transfer time by over 1/3rd.

It's late here and I really need to spend some of the evening with my wife, so please hold tight for pictures of proof of concept, I will upload some screenshots and pictures in the morning (PST) and edit the post.

Using this set up (below) I was able to dump 128Gb from the CF card to my HD in just under 20 minutes, thats nice compared to over 1 hour for USB2.

http://texassoundguy.blogspot.com/2013/04/creating-thunderbolt-compact-flash-card.html

I'm guessing that this is probably the fastest available CF card reader on the market and I'm happy with it! I can confirm it works, I ordered it all from a retailer with a 30 Day guarantee!

Next Projects....

Highpoint Esata 6Gb/s hub and PCI-E card to test some more streamlining options of the workflow, now wouldn't that be nice if we get SSD's to be the native format.

Side Note,

Does anyone know if ACR is using Multi core processing power? Please let me know. My next thought is how do we improve the time it takes to convert the DNG's to TIFF's. Right now, it takes the same time for my quad core MacBook Pro and my i7-990X Hackintosh 6 core running at 4Ghz whats up with that?

Komputer Bay 1000x 64Gb
The latest raw module posted previously by Andy in this thread works perfectly in 1920x1080 with a 5D3, drops 1 frame in x1152 and several in x1180. Let me know if you need more tests with different resolutions.

Nice test, I just ran the same test on a 32Gb x1000 Lexar, 1920 x 1180 now works without dropping frames. 1920 x 1280 drops a few frames.

Today's raw_rec file really improves the reliability. Much respect to all the coders!

The work over the last few days has given me a lot more confidence in filming 1920 x 1080

Your card is too slow. Thats a cheaper card which really doesnt have the write speed that the Lexar(I believe) has

Yeah i think its becoming evident that the "cheapo" Komputerbay cards are not giving write speeds the same as Lexar.

I believe in trying to get the best deal out there but your card is where you store your work, without it you have nothing. I don't want to even have the worry of a card going down thats why Im willing to pay a little more fore the Lexar.

Funny you should mention that, cuz I just did that and it did help a bit. I also turned off audio...not sure if it matters, but I turned off just about everything I could think of. I can now get 1920 x 960 to work reliably although 1920 x 1080 still skips frames intermittently. Sometimes I can go pretty far w/o skips.

Thanks,

AJ

I wasn't able to record 1920 x 1080, with earlier builds the buffer kept filling up but doing some testing today with the May 14th build it seemed to sort it out. I didn't stress it out with leave's or trees or anything like that but the frame were busy and it handled it well till i hit the 4Gb limit.

Are you running the latest build?

Here are test results of the Transcend 1000x 32 GB on the 5DM3:



In practice I have found 1920 x 840 seems to work flawlessly, greater than that eventually skips frames.

AJ

Try turning global draw off, that should release a little more memory for 1920 x 1080 recording.

I have the same card and it fluctuates between 80-84MB/s recording 1920 x 1080.

Just updated to the May 14th build.

Im using a Lexar 32Gb x1000 CF and I didn't have any dropped frames. With earlier builds I got dropped frames, the recording only stopped when I hit 4Gb.

Hmm.. I am not sure if there is much Atomos can do about 60i input from 5D Mark III. This is something Canon should address with their firmware update.

I agree but building up a little social movement for the good never hurt anyone.

looking at the implementation of the Nikon hdmi there are settings in the firmware on the camera that allow you to select exactly the output that you want we simply don't have that on the 5d.

Just sent to Atomos......


Hi there,

I just bought a ninja 2 to test the recording capabilities of uncompressed HDMI from the Canon 5D mkiii. I'm running Magic lantern alpha 2 firmware.

I appreciate this is not official firmware but I wonder if you can help?

When I plug the camera directly to my Samsung TV it detects the input as 1080i60 (see attachment)

However the ninja 2 detects the signal as 1080i59.94, this seems similar to the Nikon sync issue, not sure?

My question is would you consider taking a look at this or do we have to wait 6 months for the oficial firmware update until we can record uncompressed HDMI. I hope you may consider taking a look, it would be very cool and hopefully beneficial to your company in therms of sales!

Thanks

Hopefully something can be done with this because I don't get an update. A DVI recorder may be cheaper to build/buy.

Im going to speak to atomos, monday and Ill get the dl from them. I doubt the will offer much but maybe they might want to add some "cool" to the brand and work with us? if the Nikon sync issue was sorted via an atomos firmware update maybe we might get some hope for the 5dmk iii.

Good luck with the 600D!

Have you ever had it 1080P on any display? Does forcing fullHD on 5dIII have different values? Or is this a product of only 30fps frame rate?

Technically EDID_COLOR_444 exists, not referenced on 600D ( found it, its available but does it output that?)... is it referenced in 5dIII? Also, if 444 is possible... why is canon taking 6 months to do 4:2:2?

I've never had 1080p out to any monitor, earlier this morning I had 1080i60 but that seems to have been more of a fortuitous event than anything else.

6 months is a long time indeed, I guess we can pray that the uncompressed HDMI "official rerelease" has some more value than most of us believe it will.

On 5D3, full screen MZ in 1080p shows full-screen image, 1904x1274, no pillarboxes... but the image is double. One could call it "drunk HDMI out".

Too much sake for the programmers?

For me HDMI 2 = VGA, HDMI 5 = 1080i and 17 and 20 stretch the SD image to 16x9. How can I force 1080P? I know my TV is good for it.

Have to say Im not sure on that one, but i am going to write an email to Atomos and inquire about the issue with frame rates and the 5d mkiii.

The Samsung is showing 1080i60?

its not covering the whole screen though and I don't have the time today to count all the pixels.... so Im guessing this represents the smaller number of lines produced by the camera??

Makes me wonder if the Ninja 2 is more an Orange Belt than a real Ninja?

hold on Ill connect it now....

Try some displays which support HDCP. I don't think mine does.

I have a samsung smart tv and it worked great connecting it directly to hdmi. The picture looked good and thats on a 65 inch screen.

Anyone try using HDMI->DVI adapter?

FF1ED188:   STRING: '[EDID] ColorMode = EDID_COLOR_RGB'   FF1ECFD8
FF1ED1AC:   STRING: '[EDID] ColorMode = EDID_COLOR_422'   FF1ECFE4
FF1ED1D0:   STRING: '[EDID] ColorMode = EDID_COLOR_444'

FF1ED20C:   STRING: '[EDID] SELECTED DVI MODE'


Hmmm... well I just did into a 1080P TV and with magic zoom get "full size" HDMI that covers the entire screen... but those damn overlays need to go.

This could be fantastic at home, no external hdmi recorder needed. I could just TiVo my recordings 

In 600D firmware there are options for HDMI 1080P, 1080i, 720P, 480P/i (I think). It connects to my TV at 1080i even though it is 720P. It uses EDID data to determine this somehow. I get the same results connecting to 1080P sources. I think you might be having a similar problem and its not the recorder.

Ugh.. canon really needs to work this out.

ugggghhh indeed, maybe 6 months is optimistic for the canon firmware update.

Try changing the video system to pal(in the canon menu). Maybe it'll work better in 25 fps.

No luck with that one, or the latest firmware.

On the Nikons, the instructions describe a menu in camera that allows you to select the output HDMI setting thats something we cant do as yet maybe thats whats up.

realized the Ninja wasn't on the latest firmware. updating now.....

Ok So everything's charged and were ready to shoot some test shots..

However I cant get the Ninja to sync corrctly with the HDMI, somehow I managed to get one test shot earlier today at 1080i60, but ever since then the ninja detects at 59.94, this makes for some awful results.

The EVF detects at 1080i60 Im not sure how I managed to get lucky earlier but Ill scour the web for some help on this one, if anyone has any input its welcomed. I read that there were problems with the nikons and ninja not syncing and I wonder if its a firmware issue as this was resolved in a firmware update for the Ninja and Nikon Combo.

I've also tried removing the evf from the loop and recording directly to the ninja this didn't resolve the problem.

It seems that most of us don't know how that thing works = all eyes on you Waiting for your report!  Thank you!

Well she's here, the batteries are taking longer to charge than bringing a nuclear power station online... hopefully this is a good sign and they might actually last....

With respect to the input source, the ninja looks to auto detect what the input is and displays it on screen. So, once the batteries are charged Ill plug her in and power her up.

I would be interested in knowing the frame rate of HDMI (60i? 30p in 60i wrapper? etc.) and what is the size of actual image when crop it to remove borders. Also if you could make a short comparison clip downloadable, that would be appreciated.

Currently sat on sofa waiting for UPS! Ill do some shooting and upload to vimeo over the weekend.

Im not sure how the Ninja 2 works yet, so as for frame rate any tips on how to obtain this is welcome.

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Nothing wrong with complaining, just open a thread under General or whatever. This is not the place

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Thank you!

Im really delighted with the work you guys put into this project and will help any way I can.