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A long, deep audible breath expressing sadness.

in-camera lens system f/2.8-5.6...

I don't understand the thinking behind this camera? Is it for pros or home-video? If home-video, why not use cell-phone instead of this beast? If pro - why integrated lens, or that bulky viewfinder (not possible to mount on gimbal). Canon seem to be totally out of touch with the potential consumers... or the other way around.

If I were canon, this is what I think people want's:
All features from mkiii DSLR
4k video (raw or eq format)

Well I really hope this is not the only camera from canon that will support 4K video this year.

Thanks! Working with the material (in between job), coming up soon.

Thanks to magic lantern I got this wonderful image today, aiming at the solar eclipse.

Solar Eclipse by poromaa, on Flickr

Was filming 12 second clips in raw (because the 5D2 can't handle more) when this suddenly appeared!
Pretty lucky I would say.

cool. Nice effects!

Nice!

Thanks!

https://vimeo.com/122190757

Just tried my new MLVFS-workflow on some shaky footage I had from South Africa.
The workflow follows:
1. MLVFS: make virtual folder from MLV-folder
2. Davinci Resolve lite: Import virtual dngs, Edit, grade & deliver footage in (prores 442HQ)
3. After effects: import final render. remove noise, (upscale content aware to keep some sharpness), add noise (film look), render to prores 442HQ.
4 Handbrake: export to mv4

*ok, I lied, but step 3 can be removed if using OFX plugin to resolve. Then it would be true.

I made all the steps you explained but I still have one major problem with a lot of chromatic aberrations in my final picture

That is not chromatic abberations but rather something  to do with the exposure. Do you have any areas in the picture that are overexposed? Have you tried with any other image sequence?

but does it really matter since i am working with DNxHD 444 10 bit codec and not DNG?

I believe it may do, since the footage may not be 10bit anymore if you have applied filters or pushed it in any direction (example, use 8bit gradient, blur it and export it will give better result in 32 bit than in 8bit even though the original was in 8bit)

I have tried your roundtrip and I really didn't like the intermediate export of all footage before cutting. Thats why I have used MLFSE to virtually mount the MLV-files to dngs (no loss).
However since premiere can't really handle dngs, and speedgrade seem to become reeeeealy slow when using adobe-link from premiere (if the source is dngs from MagicLantern) I have abandoned the adobe world for a while.

Right now my workflow is:
1. MLFUSE dir of MLV to virtual dir of DNGs
2. Import dng-sequences into Davinci resolve,
3 Cut, Color, deliver to prores

No intermediate format. "Only" drawback is all AE dependency (like effects etc). For scenes like this I have roundtripped those scenes separately.

If one likes premiere better to edit in, one can do the edit there, and then xml-export to davinci and render the Prores from davinci (with or without color grading).

Haha. Nice ending

got totally sucked in. Love NY

 really nice!

After experimenting a whole weekend with different options I like your workflow. I can even start in Premiere with dngs (since I have realtime playback on them) and just do:

1. Process MLV files with MLVFS
2. Generate Proxies with DaVinci Resolve (ISSUE #1)
3. Import proxies into Premiere
4. Do the EDIT (ISSUE #2)
5. Export the timeline to XML
6. Import the XML into Resolve, relink the footage to the RAW clips
7. Do the final grading
8. Export the graded clip


The only thing that is a pain is that the Resolve Lite does not have noise-reduction. This kind of makes my footage break down in the color grade. If I fix that, Im set. Thinking of buying Neat Video (OFX) for this.

I would go for the GH4 instead. If photography is not a priority.

Sorry, didn't really read it carefully. A 60D seems to be around 700USD + you'll need a fast memory card +100USD. so in total about 800USD.

I bought my Canon 5D mk2 "used" for half the price about 1 year after release (I think I got it for about 2000USD including som primes). I could really recommend looking for that option as well. I have seen some pretty nice GH4 packages (also 5Dmk2) (including extra batteries and memory cards) for around 1000USD. Maybe thats over budget, but then you can always look around for 60D package too.

I wanted a workflow that does not require intermediate export, since the material will double in size. With MLVFUSE one does not need to leave davinci, but davinci falls short on two things , noise-reduction (lite version) and sound capabilities (some sound formats get messed up and sometimes renders audible glitches).

MLVFS gives DNGs:
Cut in Premiere: Great, but can't handle the dngs (!) without export to AE as last step. Good sound capabilities and linking to AE.

Cut in Davinci: Great, but no noise reduction and/or AE-links! Problem with sound

My (no-rendering)-workflow is hence:
1. Collect MLV-files on HD,
2. MLVFUSE it to DNGs (no extra space needed)
3. Import and Edit in Premiere (realtime playback, but debayering is awful). until done
4. open in after effects, precompose every single clip (to get it nested - no such function in premiere) export to premiere
5. open in premiere and now replace every single base-clip (reused clips on timeline will use same base clip) with AE-comp
6. In AE, denoise and color correct each clip
7. In premiere, grade (I use colorista) and render.

(skip step 4 if nesting before cutting)

I wish I could skip the back and forth between AE and Premiere, but premiere cant handle DNGs.

Easiest workflow had of course been just to stay in resolve and do everything there, but the noise drives me crazy.

Does anyone know a better way keeping footage to a minimum?

Yeah, the camera (5Dmk2) has some awful aliasing and does not even support progressive dual-iso in video-mode, but I guess I can live with it if using ACR.

My workaround is simply to use daVinci Resolve instead, since that debayering currently looks more like ACR, but gives realtime playback. Drawback with that is that Resolve does not have any free denoise and noisy footage tend to break if color-correcting in Resolve (for me, I guess I have some to learn here).

Well, thanks for the info.

If I pull the DNGs directly into Premiere, I get a-lot of aliasing problems at sharp edges. However, if I import the DNG trough ACR (Lightroom/Photoshop) I get a totally different result. Even turning off every single setting (noise reduction, color noise etc) I get a clearly better result from the "ACR"-version.

What am I doing wrong here?

Below is a screenshot from within Premiere, where i have stacked the two versions on top of each other.

As one can see the aliasing gets really horrible on the file loaded in Premiere (to the right)

I have checked for field order etc but can't find any problems with it. There does not seem to be any debayering-settings in Premiere either, so I don't know what it's doing. I have also played around with the chroma smoothing, but this does not fix it.

Any ideas?

Hi and thanks for yet another great utility for us film makers!

I guess everybody hate requests, so don't see it as one, but I am filming raw with 5D2 and editing on the fly with my macbook air (!) yes, it works. And MLVFS is really what makes it possible.

Just one thought, would it be possible to have a setting for virtual dngs image resolution? I'm thinking it would work like a proxy and be faster than debayering the whole thing? Or is it not working that way at all?

If possible that would enabling having the real footage in low resolution while editing, and then just change settings before render/grading.

What is there besides DaVinci Resolve that would give me good results?   ... I'm still every bit the Noob. 

Hi,
My workflow is the following

1. film on SanDisk 64 GB Extreme Pro - 160 MB/s (two of them - swap every now and then)
2. transfer MLVs to computer put in same folder (for easy proxy creation 3b)
3. view the good takes with MLRawViewer (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.0;topicseen) and tag it (i use finder's color labels for this)
      - MLRawViewer is a great viewer that runs in realtime without any conversion on my macbook air.
(3b optional). Create proxies (compressed versions of every file to be used for editing - not needed if project has few clips and is short.) This can be done from within the MLRawViewer by pressing Q and then X (or press export, chose the mov-file, not dngs)- Will create one *.mov file for each mlv-sequence in the folder. After you are done, move the mov files to new folder "proxy" outside of the mlv-dir.

4 run MLVFS (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0;topicseen)
      - MLVFS is a virtual filesystem that virtually creates DNGs from your MLV-files without conversion. It also does not take up any extra disk (!), only downside is that dngs might be slow playback in premiere or After effects (thats why I use step 3b)

5. Start Premiere/Davinci or AfterEffects and just add the clips from the virtual folder created in 4. If you created proxies (3b) cut the project with proxies and when done, replace footage with the virtually created DNGs.

6. Grade everything with speedgrade or After effects


(edit)
If it is a really short project like just a couple of clips, then you can skip step 3.

I can confirm Danne about Magenta cast when Stripe/spot-correction is on. It only happens (it seems) if there is something overexposed in the scene.

Great film! What you should have added is ADR or something so that the sound got a bit better. Anyway really funny and great acting!

Hi!
Have some issues with exporting DNG from external drive with hot-pixel-removal on. Made a bug report but could not find a crash log .mlrawviewer.log file (my directory only has other log files describing directory output and versions) https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/90/dng-export-crash-w-spot-vertical-stripe

Workaround: move directory for conversion to local disk.
Really like the hot-pixel removal! Great job!

Great find!

Thanks A.D./A1ex!

[Hi 5D2 owners!]

Hi 5D2 owners!

looks like we are left behind. As a frequent user of the nightlies, its sad to see that the 5D2 development has stopped. If it is as simple as a1ex say I want to make a try.

Has anyone already started finding the STUBS for 5D2 yet? If so, are you stuck, can I help?

If not, has anyone extracted the ROM1.BIN.strings and ROM1.BIN.dis from the 5D2?

I would really like to take a look at them to begin with.