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#1
Quote from: vastunghia on August 31, 2023, 05:27:36 PM
Just out of curiosity - why, if I may ask
DCP (Digital Cinema Package)
#2
Really? Not sure I understand. I use it to get 1/48 shutter, but how does it affect framerate? How can I get a flat true 24 FPS and 1/48 shutter (180 degrees) without FPS Override? If possible, or do I have to use a different shutter angle?
#3
As far as I know FPS Override is the only way to get true 24 FPS, but correct me if I am wrong. I need that framerate, not 23.976 / 23.98. I'll just use 1x1 or 3x3 modes when I need true 24p I guess.
#4
I disabled "Shutter Fine-Tuning", but the 1x3 modes still don't work with "FPS Override" enabled. I can't disable FPS override because I need it to match the framerate of the other cameras and the projects I am working on. I'll have to use another mode instead, but I am just reporting this FPS Override bug with 1x3 modes in case it isn't known. Hopefully it is fixable.
#5
Yeah, I use shutter fine tuning 1/48 (180 degrees) and shutter "full range" setting. I will have to see if disabling that and keeping the FPS Override on will work.
#6
[EOS M] LiveView (Frozen) and Recording Raw does NOT work at all with 1x3 modes while using FPS Override (Exact). I am trying to get True 24p with 1x3 modes. Is this an oversight bug and fixable, or a limitation of the camera? FPS Override only works with 1x1 and 3x3 modes, but not 1x3 (which is a shame because this is the most interesting mode to use). It may seem trivial to want 24 FPS instead of 23.976, but it is important if you are trying to match the framerate of the other cameras being used in a project that requires true 24 FPS. Thanks in advance
#7
Does the LiveView work with the 1x1 and 1x3 modes? I couldn't get mine to work. Maybe I have some settings on that break it but I only really use fps override 24.0, small hacks, SD overclock, and full shutter range. I couldn't change my shutter angle either on some and everytime i hit MENU button and then go back to ML menu the shutter angle is different.

The 3x3 works good with everything for me though, I just have to move the box to get liveview working. But moving the box didnt work with other modes where the liveview is frozen. Sometimes it doesn't play the beeping sound when pushing on the arrows to move it either.

Edit: Ok The 2.5k Liveview works, but 4.4k, 4.8k, and 5.2k + some others do not. I must be doing something wrong?
#8
I have a feature recommendation/suggestion that would be really cool. An "Aspect Ratio" option for DCI 1.90:1? Could also make a DCI Mode, like the 1x3 UHD one, since they go hand in hand. DCI is the requirement to have a film displayed in cinemas/theaters with a 4K projector because it's native resolution is 4096x2160 (DCI), instead of 3840x2160 (UHD). Cinema cameras have the DCI option like the recent firmware update for Sony FX3. There are also 4K UHD and 4K DCI Blu-Rays I think.

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hac-assets/4k+vs+uhd/4K-vs-UHD.jpg
#9
Quote from: theBilalFakhouri on August 20, 2023, 03:55:48 PM
Use latest crop mood build then report back please!

The bit-depth is displayed properly now with latest, but it might have been my fault before as I didn't realize there were two settings for the bit-depth. I notice when you change the bit-depth it changes the other one to match. Maybe it wasn't doing that before or not displaying it properly. Either way it is fine now. Thank you.
#10
Thanks Danne. It works. I did try that before but the screen just got messed up so I stopped messing with it, but I see how to do it now.
#11
Anyone know why the LiveView is frozen with 1080p 3x3? Or does it not have real-time preview in this mode? I have been messing with settings for a week and can't seem to get it to work. I am trying to record in raw in the lowest quality to get the most time for continuous recording and smallest file sizes. I assumed this would be the best mode for that, but not sure.
#12
What settings cause the 1080p Raw to have the LiveView Frozen? I can't seem to figure it out. Also I notice with 1080p Raw when I set it to 10-Bit, the LiveView still says 14-Bit on the bottom in green.
#13
So with Crop Mood you can now use EOS M for streaming live good with HDMI?
#14
Thanks, Walter. That is pretty good. I might do that. Only issue is backup storage. Would have to remove any parts of the video that is useless.
#15
Alright thanks. I will probably just get 256GB, but I get Extreme Pros always anyway for everything. How many hours do you think of 1080p raw you can get on 1TB?
#16
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Yeah I guess seamless would not be smart since it can get corrupted for important footage. I think using RAW will just take up too much space with 4 cameras for 5+ hours and keeping backups of all the data everytime I do it... but I will do a test and calculate anyway. Thanks for the reply!
#17
If I put a 1TB Sandisk Extreme Pro SD Card into the EOS M, will "Crop Mood" allow me to record in 1080p "Non-RAW" indefinitely with no recording limit (not Raw) for many hours? Also will it split the files or be one big video file? Asking because I want to use the EOS M as sort of a CCTV camera for like 5+ hours at a time (with external power) but Raw files would be too big in filesize for multiple cameras. I remember testing this on Danne's build, but if I remember correctly it might have had artifacts that would need fixed in MLV app, but you can only open Raw files in that. I may have done something wrong, though as I can't remember so don't quote me on that. I also only tested with a 64GB card until the battery ran out. In short, I just need to record in 1080p or higher without Raw for many hours without artifacts, basically. It would be cool to use a higher resolution, but I assume you can only do that with Raw Video. Thank you
#18
I have a Sandisk Ultra Plus 80MB/s 64GB and haven't had any overclock issues yet. At least none that I have noticed (yet). I just can't record as long continuously with certain resolutions as an Extreme Pro can, obviously. With that said, obviously if you are going to buy a card make sure its Extreme Pro 170MB/s 2nd generation.
#19
Quote from: Teamsleepkid on October 07, 2020, 07:24:14 PM
Mines a 95MB tested in benchmark with a 30 second clip and getting 80MB read and write speeds. But crashes when I do anything over 57MB on 5k mode. Also I think the data rate is changing depending on the iso you choose correct? Wondering if the 170MB card will fix my problem.

Did you try the ML card hack options like sd overlock 192mhz in the movie tab? I haven't tried 5k myself, though.
#20
Quote from: Walter Schulz on October 07, 2020, 06:30:48 PM
Are you refering to 95 MB/s version as 1st and 170 MB/s as second? Then you are wrong. 1st gen won't switch to proprietary Sandisk transfer mode.Haven't found yet. Please link.
The 170 MB/s is a tad slower when used in cardreaders not able to run Sandisk's proprietary protocol. See www.cameramemoryspeed.com

I think what I meant was in-camera writing there is no difference, but the 170MB can grab files faster from a compatible card reader.
#21
Quote from: theBilalFakhouri on October 07, 2020, 05:11:31 PM
The metadata would be as Canon settings including FPS, Set 1080p24 from Canon, Set FPS override to 3 FPS, record H.264 video for 1 minute, on your computer the FPS would be 23.976 FPS in that file, but the video would be like a Time-Lapse, you can re-adjust framerate as you put in FPS override in this case to 3 FPS, now you will have correct FPS in that video.

Shutter speeds are working fine here on 700D, I can lower it down to 1/24 and up to 1/31K when recording H.264 @ 1080p24, and there is a visible difference in H.264 video when changing shutter speed from 1/33 to 1/24 and from 1/4000 to 1/31K.

Not sure if there are a problems with these on EOS M.
Interesting... I only have EOS M cameras to test but I'll run another test to make sure. Thanks. I didn't take into account that it could just be wrong metadata.
#22
Quote from: Teamsleepkid on October 07, 2020, 04:51:37 AM
I have one of the older extreme pro 95MB cards I tested it and it's supposed to be getting around 80MB read and write but strangely seems to crash when using 5k mode at 60MB should I get one of those new extreme pro cards as well?
As far as I know the only difference between the 1st and 2nd generation extreme pro cards is the label. The 2nd generation has the higher MB on the label, but both cards can still do it but you need a certain SD card reader to get those speeds. I think there is a Gerald Undone video on this.
#23
Quote from: theBilalFakhouri on October 07, 2020, 09:28:08 AM
FPS Override, Full Shutter Range, Shutter Fine Tuning already working in H.264 video.
They can be enabled and the camera acts like they work, but if you record an h264 video and examine it on your computer you can see none of the options stuck. It still uses the options set in the default canon menu.
#24
Quote from: Janke on October 07, 2020, 12:00:58 AM
I undestand I can't get h264.

Do you mean that MLV recordings are always raw, and just short snippets? The card should be OK, 32 GB Kingston Class 10/U1 ?
You should get SanDisk Extreme Pro SD Cards for raw.
#25
Quote from: bern047 on October 06, 2020, 05:11:23 PM
Ok just that you seem to have problems, I have 4 EOS M bodies in excellent condition (2 Black and 2 Red) The black looks really professional in a 'Rig Build' with Rode microphones and monitor with external batteries and focus wheel, only paid £80 each max for the bodies, 2 were brand new. They all work really well especially with the new builds, more than pleased with them, I have a large amount of Canon EF and Olympus Zuiko lenses vintage top notch, the  RAW footage I am getting is just phenomenal, love this resource for Magic Lantern
Who has problems? I don't have any problems with my cameras. You didn't mention who you are responding to so I have to assume it is my comment above. If you are talking to someone else, you should quote them or mention it, otherwise nobody will know who you are talking about. I certainly don't have any problems, though and not sure what would give you that idea.