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#1
Quote from: hjfilmspeed on May 11, 2017, 06:12:45 AM
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You have misunderstood me. I was not saying upgrading to 5Div, I was saying upgrading the 5Div to c-log.
I agree, there are a lot of improvements to the 5d iv especially for photo. I know, I own both Cameras and I know how to use them. But I tell you what, I would sacrifice the dual pixel and wifi gps functions for a professional 10bit codec. For some rediculous reason canon is promoting post color grading with c-log on 8bit codecs. I'm sorry this is just silly at this point. And the rolling shutter of the 4k plus the crop is really not good.
What they should have done was:
1 Super 35mm 1.3x crop 4k 10bit  422
2 And full frame 1920 10bit 422 (not h.264 420 8bit)
3 less rolling shutter.
Personally I would trade video autofocus, wifi, touchscreen and GPS for the features mentioned above.
I actually emailed Canon nicely mentioning my concerns and they told me I should take a look at the 11,000 c300 ii
I didn't​ tell them this but I said to myself, no thanks I'll just use 5diii with ML RAW if I want to color grade.
Im not saying the 5Div is bad. All I am saying is, personality​ it let me down. This is not the same 5D that spearheaded the DSLR video revolution.

I agree with you on 2 and 3.  2 doesn't really affect me much because I always shoot at 4K and if required downsize to 1920 which I believe still give me 422 color sampling.   I have not worked with 10bit video so I don'tr know what I am missing.  I also don't color grade most of my work so also don't have a need for C-log.  The only time I would need something like that is if am shooting with both my Sony FDR-AX100 and Canon 5D4 and need to match colors, which at this point I also seldom do.  Isn't the Sensor in the Canon 5D4 already much bigger than a Super 35 sensor since it has to accommodate 30MP photography? 
Well in any case I hear you and everyone has their own thoughts, but for me.  I am quite ecstatic with the camera.  Upgrading from a Canon 5D Mark II was a huge step up and I will use it for the next 5 - 7 years.  I just don't get that many requests for people actually hiring me to shoot in 4K.  My trick is shooting in 4K and delivering a 1080P product which looks great.  Which I can easily do with this camera.  For my personal stuff (not getting paid for) the 4k stuff is great for friends and family events. 
When I look back at it all I think Canon was the first to bring video to a DSLR and if I remember many photographers thought it was a stupid idea.  But, now it is the norm.  But, If I where to do paid 4K work on a regular basis I would absolutely just go get a Black Magic mini URSA.  The downside is I just couldn't imaging traveling Internationally with it which is why I purchased the 5D4.
#2
Quote from: hjfilmspeed on April 20, 2017, 08:53:41 PM
Maybe I will pay for the upgrade so that I can do a side by side:
5diii 1920x1080 ML 14 bit lossless vs 5div cine style vs 5div c - log
And then most likely come to the conclusion that the upgrade was pointless.

I have both cameras and the Canon 5D Mark IV is light years better than the Mark III.  Things like WIFI, GPS, Timecode, focus following while in Live View, Touch screen display which can be used to pull focus.  Being able to remotely pull focus from my touchscreen laptop in 4K while recording in true 4K.  Just absolutely amazing features.  The upgrade is only pointless if you can't figure out a way to use all these new features.  For me just having Timecode has made syncing audio to my Zoom F4 without the need for Red giants Plural eyes has saved me time and money.

Plus a a photo camera the 5D IV is an absolute beast.  It is so fast and accurate.  Let me stop now before people start thinking I work for Canon.
#3
Quote from: D_Odell on August 12, 2016, 12:39:53 PM
Without CFast I feel it's pretty doomed for higher resolution in Raw. Of course they don't like not to benefit from ML super work...

I am quite happy Canon did not switch to CFast cards.  I use teh Samsung Extreme Pro 95 Mbs 256GB carsds in my Canon 5D Mark IV but the also fit in my Sony FDR-AX100 and my laptop Dell 5510 has a very fast SD card reader builtin.  So I love not having to carry an external card reader.  The Mjpeg format already has very low compression if any so I see no reason to shoot to RAW creating an even larger file than it creates now.  The image quality is already as perfect as I have ever seen coming unaltered from the camera.  for most work there is no need to color grade if you used good glass an lighting in the first place.