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Thanks for the feedback, I'm picking up our second camera tomorrow and am hoping that it's running 1.1.3 and not 1.2.3!

awesome ayshih, thanks a lot, that clears things up!

from your experience, would you say MLV on 1.1.3 is stable enough to use on a shoot, or should I go with the plain old raw module?

So as long as the weather holds up, we're shooting this weekend, finally. I got one of our 5D III's today and tried installing the latest nightly build when I noticed a few odd things. I've installed ML on the SD card.

- when ML crashes, sometimes the module symbol completely disappears from the menu. I can't even pick raw video.
- even if I set the CF as the standard recording card, it sometimes switches to the SD card

And the weirdest of all:

- when pressing rec and shooting MLV raw, all the screen infos disappear and the only thing that is left on screen is a little camera indicating the time elapsed

We have a few CF cards but I'd prefer to keep Magic Lantern installed on the SD cards to make picking settings easier.

Would highly appreciate it if someone could point out what I'm missing!

For the histrogram: Ist Global Draw turned ON for recording?

Global Draw was turned on, yes.

1. Yes. You forgot to run the Make DSLR Bootable script on the card.

2. Typically you set the file naming convention in the Canon menu and ML should abide by that. I think there are also some new settings to enable you to name takes and such in ML.

3. I don't think it can. You're stuck with whatever you recorded at.

1. I didn't actually. Just figured out that I screwed up the order. Seems obvious in retrospect, but it was a long day yesterday. Thanks for the tip, works now!

2. I couldn't find anything in ML but will have a more thorough look once all the memory cards are running!

3. I took a look at the MLRawViewer options and the thing I was looking for was the hotkey "a". This changes aspect ratio from stretched to normal when viewing!


One other thing I noticed, is that my mac tells me that the 1080p cDNGs are actually 1916x1076. Any thoughts?
Also I'm not completely sure which buffer size write speed is the important one to be able to tell if RAW can record
at certain resolutions? Is it 16384k?

And something else odd I've noticed, is that when I try and shoot RAW, the Histogram disappears :?

Actually, another thing I just noticed, is that when filming 48fps 16:9 at 1728x606, there appear to be pink bars
on the right and bottom of the screen (just a few pixels in width). Will see if some different resolutions change that..

Cheers

Hey people,

so in the end we didn't shoot the film this weekend. There were other problems with the camera
rental place and the lens rental place that contributed to this decision, but part of it was also due to the
overwhelming advice of this thread to run more tests.

Which is what we're doing at the moment.

We got a 5D Mark III today and already ran into some problems. I installed Magic on one of the cards, no problem.
Installed it on a second card, forgot formatting the second card to ExFat, also no problem.
Installed in on a third card, all of a sudden the camera doesn't boot into magic lantern and instead
freezes and I have to take out the battery to restart it.

I've tried to install it on three more cards, and all show the same problem. Magic Lantern is not
loaded automatically and if I choose to "update Firmware", it installs it, but then freezes when rebooting.

1. Does anyone have an idea what I might be getting wrong?
2. How does Magic Lantern number each file, seems to be pretty random when using two different cards?
3. Can MlRawViewer change the aspect ratio?


@Mei Lewis

we have a fast usb 3.0 card reader which takes about 10 minutes to dump the footage.
Considering the time it takes to change between scenes, I think 4x64gb per camera
is enough. We will go out into the field tomorrow though and test the whole thing.

@Steven

Does that mean when not using ExFat, I'll just have several .RAW files for one longer take?


Thanks again everyone for the input!

Ok, so just to see if I got it right:

1. Test cards in camera to see if they are up to speed
2. Format them with disk utility to ExFat to not be restricted by 4gb limit
3. Record RAW on set
4. Just dump the footage as is and check randomly using RAWMagic
5. Use slate to sync sound with image

Also playing around with the idea to get an iPad slate app, instead of using a physical one to save some time...

This is amazing ! Thanks for all the feedback!

@Ilirik

So far we've been planning on shooting in raw since in most scenes, sound is not recorded on set. We do have one monologue though, but we use a slate to get the syncing right!

@SteveScout

You raise several good points. When you say your files got corrupted, do you mean visible artifacts, or something less noticeable? How bad is the SD image for focusing? We did actually get a hood loupe, but either the quality must have not been very good, or it is seriously hard to pull focus using a hood loupe. With it, I could make out the pixels on the screen, which gave everything kind of hard edges!

The MLVrawviewer really does sound like the best solution on set!

@Midphase

thanks for the uplifting words! Good to hear at this point!

The thing is, we did try it out one day and settle on a setup. And I've been using Magic Lantern on my 600D for over 3 years while being on the latest nightly builds. So I'm really familiar with the software. But just not that familiar with raw. We did manage to shoot it though. And that's actually all we need to do. Get footage that is not corrupt.

So do I understand correctly, RAWMagic is for conversion and MLRawViewer is just for looking at the footage without converting?

Thats a good point you raise, a common human fallacy actually. I'm sure there is some difference between the quality of the Komputerbay and Lexar cards but the Komputerbay cards really are not that bad!

Why the formatting to ExFAT? I actually don't recall formatting the Komputerbay cards we had besides in camera and that worked well?!

Thanks again everyone for the replies!

Thanks for the input guys, really appreciate it!

3. To my knowledge, the only chance you have at using a monitor is having a Mark 3 with 1.2.3 firmware, and magic lantern 1.2.3. Not positive.

This is very concerning, thank you! So basically if we want to shoot RAW, we can't have a monitor?
Is there any thread about this, maybe this issue has been fixed in a later version since you've tried to use it?
Or there may be some other way around it? Thanks again for the answer,
this would have been one of the "bad surprises" next week!

If you're on a Mac don't use Raw2DNG. Use RAWMagic or MLRawViewer.

Is this because Raw2DNG converts it automatically and RAWMagic doesn't?

To the testing. Like mentioned, we did a basic test but we didn't have a Monitor available.
This is one of the productions where me and my friend have to do everything from producing
to all the creative work. Our work schedules unfortunately prevented any other testing except
the tests we can run the night before the shoot

Hey guys,

We've rented a 5D III before to run some tests with Komputerbay 64gb cards.
The ones we bought seemed to be doing well in 1920x818 30p.
However, since we're short on budget, we send the cards back to Amazon.

I've already bought 8 Komputerbay 64gb cards, but have no way to test them until
we're picking up both Mark III's. Which will be next Friday. The shoot is will be Sat-Sun.

1. Are there any reliable tools I can use to test the memory cards (on Mac)?
2. Magic Lantern automatically stops a recording when frames are dropped?
3. We're renting a 7" HDMI Monitor, is Magic Lantern compatible?
4. Is RAWtoDNG sufficient on set, or should we just dump the .RAW files directly?

Is there anything else I should be weary of when using Magic Lantern on set?

Thanks,
Michael

I ask for modest resolution raw stills, check in couple of months later, and get raw VIDEO...well done sir, well done!

Are there any news on this one?

Thanks for looking into it. When I shoot in clubs, I usually have a very high volume of shots but since the pictures are just getting uploaded to facebook anyways, there is no point in using all 18MPs.

Hey, I really like the 10mp raw option for the 7D, 5DmkII, etc. Is there any possible way to port this option to the 600D or any of the like?