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#1
Modules Development / Re: MLV Lite
March 15, 2017, 07:10:15 PM
Hi,

I need to get a .MLV lite file (former raw_rec) into a DNG series. MLVmystic, which I used becaue the raw_rec was removed, gets red stripes all over every frame.

What can I do to convert this ? I'm on Windows. I tried using MLVFS but the .exe doesn't work even with the other application installed. MLrawviewer crashes every time during the export to DNG.

Thank you
#2
Hi,

I need to get a .MLV lite file (former raw_rec) into a DNG series. MLVmystic, which I used becaue the raw_rec was removed, gets red stripes all over every frame.

What can I do to convert this ? I'm on Windows. I tried using MLVFS but the .exe doesn't work even with the other application installed. MLrawviewer crashes every time during the export to DNG.

Thank you
#3
Hi,

With a friend we travelled accross Shanghai at the end of our student exchange year there. We wanted to capture some places that were almost uncharted and definitely not in the tourist guides. So we discovered some of  and shot there when we had time and when the weather was OK (mostly cloudy though). These were places that were waiting for renovation or construction, with low or no security (although you don't want to be seen with your camera), not really dangerous and with things left untouched. Two of the places were roofs of our neighborhoods because the view from the 30rd floor is marvelous.  I had a lot of rushes, but we wanted to have something not too long (like a music videoclip), intense but representative of our discoveries. It was really amazing to see that even inside the city center of a 20M people city, there are that much big or small buildings that are full of history and not seen by the people who live or visit the city.

I wanted to be as light as possible so I only filmed with a Sigma Art 24mm lens, no tripod or glidecam. I tested the 21:9 cinemascope aspect ratio in order to capture the full width of the landscapes and other places. I also feel that wide lenses look better when crop the frame on top and bottom.

Just like my previous videos, I processed the 5DMK3 RAW through raw2dng on mac then used Cinelog-c to get .mov files, then right into Premiere Pro CC. LUTs come from the 80 Luts IWTAP pack.

I hope you like it. Feel free to comment if you have anything to say, each time I post here I get new ideas for the next video.

Thanks :)

The video has been upscaled to 4K to get a better bitrate. You can download it on Vimeo.

Youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFTtSafUEaQ
Vimeo link : https://vimeo.com/183145289
#4
@markodarko : Thanks for your comment Mark! 2,35:1 could have worked yeah. But I shot everything at 16:9 so I don't really like to cut in post especially up and down since monitors are 16:9 or 16:10. In my opinion this has to be on purpose. For example my first idea was showing the cities of Laos in 1:1 (square) and then expand at 16:9 when reaching the countryside, similar to what Xavier Dolan did with Mommy. It didn't work and I understood that the cities were not that interesting so I focused on landscapes and people. Although I like to play with aspect ratios with photographies, much more flexibility.

Yep I shot on RAW! I had 2 64gb 1066x cards and often put the files on a 2Tb external hard drive. My bag was so heavy, but hopefully I could leave the heavy stuff in hotels.

@OLLE : Thanks! Balloon was hard to shoot, only 30 minutes, 10 people in it, I had to try to stabilize especially with 70-200 (what a crazy idea) and change lenses. Some shots are from the day before though.
#5
Hi!

I spent one month alone in Laos last January, travelling between the North and the South. As usual I like to take photos and videos. Last time I did a road trip with a friend so it was simpler to get something strong that linked the sequences. Here I had to focus on landscapes and people, trying to picture all the shades of the country I visited for more time than most tourists. I tried to follow different trails.

I used a combinaison of LUTs from the great "LUTs Color Grading Pack by IWLTBAP" to give different moods. My ND filter was crap so I lost lots fo sharpness. I didn't have a stabilizer and the Adobe post stabilizer helped a little but it was sometimes hard with a 70-200mm in a boat or a hot balloon. I had a tripod though.

I don't record sound with the 5D Mark III so the sound effects are added in post-production. The music is a remix I made using the UTOPIA (UK Tv Show) soundtrack (n Answer + To You All Kids Will Come + I Feel Separated/ Utopia). It was the hardest part since I didn't have any clear underlying theme that could link the images. I shot something like 800 sequences, a large majority are not in the video.

Hope you like it ! Feel free to comment and criticize it, it helped me last time here :)

Youtube Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saD3bI_v5vk

Vimeo Link (with ProRess 422 download button) : https://vimeo.com/168557687

My websites with photos : http://www.thibaultelie.fr/albums/laos/

Last video I made : http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16456.0;topicseen


#6
@Frisball : Thanks for your comment ! (and sorry for the late reply) No you're right I broke one ND filter and was tired of shooting videos after Mongolia so there's only small train footage from China in the video.
#7
@DeadEyeJedi : No I used a LUT for the 80 LUT pack (8830 IIRC). I tested it on 10 different shots and it added depth to the colors and continuity so I kept it. I had trouble with some shots but the useful CC 15 color editing tools helped a lot.

@axelcine : Click on the vimeo icon on the video thumbnail here and then click on the download button below the video (Original, 1920x1080, 4,361Go)

I tried to sum up the best things that I saw on travelogue videos on vimeo, and get rid of the worst. I believe the audio is an influence of the "Watchover" series of that italien filmmaker for example, which has great movement, editing and unreal visual composition.

That what an adventure yeah! Lots of things were not "filmable" or couldn't fit in the final cut, you only have a best-of of the best shots. I have another trip planned, alone this time, only one (smaller) country and I'm trying to figure out how to do something different that matches how I travel. I guess the best thing to do is to shoot all the interesting/beautiful things you can find and you'll find the narrative later, whether it's during the trip or 2 months after it. It's not like a short-movie where everything is planned from the beginning, you can come out with 10 different videos with the same footage. (I had the idea of doing a double-exposition True Detective-like video first, because I had timelapse shots etc. but it was too difficult and I had little footage that could fit the project)
#8
Thanks for the kind words!

@goldenchild9to5 I used raw2dng on mac then Cinelog-C with After Effects to get LOG files and then Premiere Pro for the grading (which nearly killed my laptop)
#9
Hi,

This summer I took the mythic transsiberian adventure from Russie to China and passing through Mongolia. With a friend (seen in the video) we visited a dozen locations in one month, 3/5 of Russia, Mongolia from North to South, and then North-West China to Shanghai.

The editing and grading were painful but I hope I achieved to put together some kind of a story and something that redraws the magic of this trip, especially with the colors and the little sounds. There is misfocus, shaky frames stabilized etc. but that's how you learn I guess.

I used a 5D Mark III with Sigma 50mm 1.4 (mainly), Sigma 24mm 1.4 (rarely) and a Canon 70-200 4.0 non-IS (sometimes). Edited and graded in the latest Premiere Pro thanks to the RAW/LOG files.

Compression is really bad with Vimeo, there is a ProRes422 file (around 4Gb) that can be downloaded within the video.



Some photos can be seen here :https://thibaultelie.fr/album/transmongolien

Hope you enjoy it,
#10
C'est à dire ?

Il y a un contact mail en dessous de la vidéo si vous souhaitez me contacter.
#12
So I ran 4 series of tests, around 10 10 secondes each

-one without focus peak : no bad frame
-one with focus peak but 0,5%treshold instead of 1% : two bad frames (pink), one at the beginning
-one with focus peak but grayscale display : two or three bad frames, two weren't pink but were messed up anyway, one at the beginning IIRC
-one without focus peak : no bad frame

So I may be very unlucky or as you said this is a real issue with my current settings including focus peak. I coud forget the focus peak, but it's maybe the most useful tool imho. Maybe another/other tool(s) is/are pushing the GPU and creating bad frames ? Which would that be ? Was this a common issue on previous ML builds ? Therefore can it be fixed with some software or code manipulation ?

edit : further testing, I watched the files through MLrawviewer on mac, plain boring shots

-a 6min video with MLV and focus peaking, same settings as before : 4 bad frames across the video
-a 5min video with RAW (the first one) and focus peaking, same settings : no bad frames
-a 5 min video with MLV but without focus peaking, same settings : no bad frames
-a 3m30 video with RAW (the first one) and focus peaking, same settings : no bad frames
-a 3m30 video with MLV and focus peaking, same settings : no bad frames (lucky?)
-a 4m video with MLV but without focus peaking, same settings : no bad frames
-a 2m30 video with MLV but with focus peaking, same settings : 2 bad frames (pink), one in the early 20s, one the late 20s

so it's either MLV without focus peaking or RAW with focus peaking. I'll run some other tests tomorrow but it seems that MLV and focus peaking are not compatible if you want clean uncompressed footage.
#13
I'll run some tests when I have my 5D3  but it is the only solution you see ?

Also thanks for your replies.
#14
Yes it is enabled. So if it can't be fixed before/when recording, can I at least fix it after ? I noticed a MLFVS setting, is it related ? I'm going on a trip for one month next week and I kinda need to know if 5 or 10% of my footage will eventually go to trash or if I have a practical solution before/after recording to fix this.
#15
I first recorded with the SD (without knowing it), then it stopped and I selected the CF card in the camera menu, so it was recording fine from then and I ran the 10 10sec tests. There were located in the CF too. On the SD I only have some .CR2 I didn't imported yet and the .MLV I first recorded with the SD without knowing it but which stopped.

1920x1080, 24fps with 24.000fps override, MLV without sound, Global draw, zebras raw rub, focus peak, spotter on, histogram, raw video create directory, global row allowed, status when recording icon, files>4gb allowed...

No crop mode.

Also I have a Lexar 64GB 1066x (formated to exfat on mac)
#17
I'll try again tomorrow without focus peak, but it's one of the most useful magic lantern tool especially when I shoot with shallow depths of fields...

I installed it 2 weeks ago from the official link (after downgrading from 1.2.3) so I don't know if it's the latest latest but it's one of the latests

The pink frames can be (easily) fixed in post ?
#18
Yes I use it (Filter bias:balanced, imager buffer:low-res, threshold:1%, color:local focus). 5D Mark III, 1.1.3

I ran some tests just a few minutes ago and I had one pink frame over 10 10s MLV files when watching them on mlrawviewer.

Does it happen with the first raw too ? Can it be fixed in post ? Can't I have proper raw/mlv and focus peak at the same time ?
#19
Also interested by an answer for my 5D3/113 (but I don't care about sound as I use external recorder)
#20
Hi,

I already searched for an answer but found no one,

I can't see the "overlay" tools while recording RAWmlv with ML. I only have a little green camera with the writing speed on a full screen ratio. I don't understand why it is that way since the "Global Draw" is "On, all modes". (5D3 1.1.3)

Thank you and sorry for the maybe dumb question
#21
Hi, I've done a quick search but I didn't find any answer, I started shooting MLV with a 5D3 (I used raw on 70D or 5D2) : is it normal than I have vertical lines when shooting ? Can I remove them ? It's quite disturbing but I don't see the in MLrawviewer.

Also, is MLV good for something like 48fps@maxrespossible-videos ? or should I go back to RAW just for that ? (I understand RAW had better writing speeds, I have 2 Lexar 64go 1066x)

Thanks to you all
#22
Hi,

Digging up this thread since it is a very good tutorial for beginners and an interesting feedback.
#23
Salut,

C'est un timelapse donc des photos qui sortent avec le capteur plein format (5616×3744) et ensuite assemblées à 25 images par secondes. Je n'ai pas utilisé le mode vidéo du boîtier, qui est limité (RAW ou pas) à 1080p
#24
Oui, je te conseille d'en prendre en rab ceci dit (25€ les deux génériques sur amazon.fr) :)
#25
So ND16+32+64 or a pair of 16/32 is the right choice. I'll take a ND1000 for photos only.

Thank you for your answers.