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One  noob  question.

Why not copile the code and share with us as an usual firmware upgrade mode... even if it need to be applied at every restart...
Just like the atual firmware available?

Why not?
The majority of people watching this "threat" are photographers, not programmers.
Please, do not get it as personal.... i like you all, and you all are helping a lot an entire community here.

Well, first of all, the majority of the readers on this thread are probably into video more than photo but that's besides the point.

Running as a firmware upgrade that would require the user to have to upgrade each time would be 1) a NIGHTMARE. I absolutely HATED having to upgrade my firmware every time I turned my camera on, and 2) someone can correct me, but I'm pretty sure that would be against Canon's terms and conditions. The only reason that ML is able to exist is because we're running it as a "program" off the card. I'm sure I'm butchering the specifics, but I believe that's essentially the point.

Has there been any change in using 128gb cards for raw recording? I've been using the 64gb Komoiterbay and loving it, but I'd love to get the 128gb card if it could support the same speeds running ML and recording raw.

hdclip - I think this is now in the nightly builds - you could look here: http://tl.bot-fly.com/ - the usual warnings about this being untested alpha code apply.

I just installed the most recent nightly build but couldn't see the indicator when recording MLV RAW. Is there something that I need to turn on to see it (I tried it with global draw both on and off)?

EDIT: Nevermind, I see it now. I see that it's only for the raw_rec module and not MLV.

I cant say for sure how it will behave on 7D, bcs I didnt make any tests yet for compare them (will try to make in a 2 day). But, if we abstracting from 7D, I think its better and cheaper. Find it on alibaba, you can send an email to [email protected] for purchase order.

Made some test:
1728x972 (1156) at 24 fps - Continuous Recording
1728x972 at 30 fps - 80.6 MB/s up to 2352 frames (first time was slower, when shooting further its starting to work > 80 MB/s)

Cropped video mode (5X) at 30 fps
1728x972 at 30 fps - Up to 80.3 MB/s 2169 frames

Cropped video mode (5X-but at 10X frozen zoom) at 30 fps
1728x972 at 30 fps - Up to 82.2 MB/s 4300 frames

Cropped video mode (5X-but at 10X frozen zoom) at 24 fps
FullHD at 24 fps - Up to 81.7 MB/s 3000+ frames
In a ML format - 3700+ frames. Actually, on a Komputerbay I can rec ~6800 frames in this mode...

For what it's worth, I bought one of these Wellcore cards and it got corrupted and became impossible to format after just a couple uses. I couldn't format it in the camera, Windows or Mac machines. They took it back, but since I had to order it from China, I decided not to get another one.

Are these cards going to make any difference for the 7D?

http://www.cinema5d.com/news/?p=21010

I think that's going to be a whole lot faster than the write speed capabilities of the 7D. At that point the camera is the bottleneck.

RAW is RAW.

Hence why the color profile isn't "baked" in.

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. The color profile doesn't really matter, does it?

So, maybe I don't understand how RAW works exactly, but I'm curious as to how color profiles are handled. I typically use either the Cinestyle or Prolost flat color profile when I'm recording. As I've been tryoing to grade my test RAW footage, I've noticed that it looked a whole lot more saturated than I thought it should so I just did some comparison shoots in RAW and H.264. The H.264 (seen on top) looks flat like I would expect it to while the RAW footage (seen on the bottom) looks super saturated. Does RAW not apply color profiles?

The naming is related with the time of recording, it is not a sequential number.  i.e. 1618 = 4:18 pm

Ahhhh, that makes sense. Thank you very much. It would be nice to have the option to choose how the shots get numbered. Sequential numbering makes much more sense if you're trying to keep track of your shots.

I'm curious as to the naming convention of RAW files. I was shooting for a few hours yesterday (only MLV raw video, no stills or h.264) and when I came back to check my files, there were interesting gaps in the numbers. My files would look something like this:

M11-1618.MLV
M11-1619.MLV
M11-1620.MLV
M11-1622.MLV
M11-1623.MLV
M11-1624.MLV
M11-1642.MLV
M11-1643.MLV

As you can see there are some interesting gaps in the numbering. I didn't delete these files. The file numbers just skip from 1620 t0 1622 (there's no 1621). Or from 1624 to 1642. There's a whole bunch of missing numbers in there. As I said, I didn't delete any files. I may have shut my camera off in between shots (and reload the firmware when it booted back up to get the FPS override), but that's about it. Is that weird? I would think it should be perfectly sequential.

maybe a different version of File Manager module?

It was from the most recent posted build.

I just did a test by recording 3 files and then deleted it via the File Manager in ML, then took the card out and verified in my PC that those files are gone.

Alrighty then. It must be me. Maybe... I don't know but I'm sure I must have done something wrong. 

It doesn't update the file catalog until you reboot.. don't remember if it lets you start shooting anyway.

It was updated in the File Manager, but it still said the card was full. When I put the card in my computer, the files were still on the card.

I just tested with both RAW and MLV and I was able to delete from the File Manager in ML... though it was only 2-3 files...

And did you pull the card out and verify in your computer that the files were actually deleted?

My card became full after a bunch of shooting a bunch of MLV raw video and I wanted to delete a couple files in the File Manager to make some space. I deleted a couple files but it still told me the card was full. I went into the File Manager and the files that I had deleted weren't in there anymore so I was confused. I took the card out and checked it on my computer but those files were still on the card. It seems that the delete function in the File Manager isn't working properly. Can anyone confirm this?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like I no longer have to do a firmware update every time to get the FPS override to be available, right? When I shut down the camera and turn it back on, I still see the FPS override. I haven't tested to see if it works, but the fact that it's still there seems to imply that I don't need to do a firmware update every time. Can someone confirm this?

Which one is the play button again? Play as in the playback/review button (the one immediately above the trash button) or the SET button?

The one above the trash button.

I had the same issue that it would freeze, most of the time i had to restart the camera, but to come around this for now, just disabled the 10x zoom mode so it only "cycles" between 1x and 5x. Try it.

As I mentioned, I already have 10X disabled. I'm only cycling between 1X and 5X and it still freezes.

Holy crap, this just blew my mind up. 

Similar suggestion here:  http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7889.msg74221#msg74221

Similar, but my proposition is slightly different. To take it further, it would be awesome to be able to tie presets into the C1, C2, C3 dial modes. I'm not sure if that's possible at all or not, but how cool would it be to be able to use a physical input to be able to change ML settings. I could easily have 3 different ML setups that I would love access to with a turn of the mode dial. Oh, well. I wish I could make it happen but I wouldn't even know where to start.

Just a thought for an awesome feature (and I would love it if this already exists, though I don't think it does), it would be great to be able to setup complex presets that we could save. So, for example, maybe I want to have a cinescope raw preset where I have a certain resolution and aspect ratio in my raw recording settings as well as have the cinescope cropmark enabled. It would be cool to be able to set it up exactly how I want it and then save all those settings under a preset that I can later recall. I can think of several different presets that I would use often, but take a while to setup and even then I run the risk of forgetting a particular setting, as well as the time that it takes setting it up. How awesome would it be to be able to just have a long list of custom presets that the user can set up and save?

Then you could probably even have these presets available for download so if one of us comes up with an awesome setting for [whatever cool stuff here]  they can share it with everyone. And if these presets were saved as individual files (which would probably be necessary if we were going to be able to share them) they could easily be backed up and when a new build comes out, we could just restore those files and have all our favorite settings easy to access, without having to set everything up again. I don't know. Just a thought. I wish I were a better programmer or I would get right on it. I'm apparently more of an "idea" guy.

Can somebody please confirm whether there is or isn't a way to do something like this?

I see, press play when that happens.

Weird. Yeah, that fixes it. Thanks!

Yep, there is some bug, it wasn't  what I thought it was... it is possible to somehow get into 10x with it moving but something in raw freezes it.

Also, with my issue, 10X is disabled so I don't think that factors in. I just cycle back and forth between 1X and 5X and that's when it freezes.

I should clarify the zoom issue I'm having. In the MLV raw module when the preview is set to Canon, it will freeze when cycled to 5X and then back to 1X. It doesn't seem to freeze when the preview mode is set to Hacked.

Yea, the 10x just kills LV for me, probably the regs from 5x are applying?

Thats the framing preview.

Which is fine, but it's the switching back to 1X that kills it for me. Generally just goes black and locks up LV.

P.S. - I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything as I'm STOKED on the work you're doing and am just trying to report the bugs that I'm running into.

P.P.S. - Why does the framing preview not turn black and white in the raw_rec module and only the MLV module?

When first time I copied 1% version over the old version,if i choose the modules rec raw then i had no option in the menu to select shooting in RAW.
If we choose the module option to mlv rec then everything was ok, I could shoot in RAW the option was available.
When increased to 10x the image in live view it was working ok.
After I deleted everything on the card and then I copied 1% version again,everything seems ok except 10x magnifications,which now hangs and i have to disabled from the menu.

So, I'm having a magnification issue as well, though a bit different. Magnification in RAW_REC works fine (I still have 10X disabled), but in MLV recording it's all messed up. As soon as I go to 5X zoom it turns black and white and when I hit it again to back to regular magnification, it totally freezes on me. I have to switch to photo mode and back (or off and on) to free it up. Bizarre.