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#1
Hey guys, has there been any other reports or solutions to this?  I've been working with my production team and it seems to only happen when its copied over to a mac.  I've never had the issue when copying to my PC whether I use USB2 or USB3 ports or any reader.  Its happening on 2 different 5d3's that are both running ML.  The footage plays back properly in camera but after copied to the Macbook Pro the footage has random frame skips/rips.

Any help would be greatful to make sure this doesn't keep happening.
#2
Ok so from what i see it looks liek the 256 is about the same speed as the 128gb 1050x card. Which isn't quite fast enough to reliably record continuously.  my 128 1050x KB card tests at about 92mb/sec and the 64gb 1000x I have tests at about 96-98... which doesnt seem like much but is just enough to make it easy.

If you are only planning on doing short clips in raw with out audio you could probably have a consistent non frame skip experience.  But I like to record with sound... and the 128gb card makes the buffer have to work way too hard (hovers between 1-3) where the 64gb card hovers at about 0.1 buffer.
#3
Quote from: ali farahani on February 24, 2014, 03:17:41 AM
Komputerbay 1000x vs 1050x ? Wich one is better for recording Raw video?
I have a komputerbay 1000x 64gb. But in crop mode i need more speed writing for recording. Is  komputerbay1050x a better choice  ?

Are there any faster CF Card???  :-\

I have both of those cards and the 1050x 128gb can barely record continuous 24p 1080 on a reliable basis.  I haven't tried crop mode though on either.  but the 64gb 1000x works perfectly and is very reliable for 24p continuous with sound on MLV.
#4
Quote from: Markus on February 21, 2014, 02:33:36 AM
benchmark does not seem to be stable on firmware 1.2.3 It shut down twice =/

Hmm... Might want to try with the more stable build on 1.1.2 if you don't mind.
#5
Can you post a benchmark of the camera in MLV REC with MLV SND, in video mode with Global Draw on and then off? 24p and 30p? :-) That would be really good for the community.

The results from playback are pretty much meaningless.  I'd be interested in those results.  But 1050 KB 128gb isn't fast enough for MLV with Sound but my 64gb 1000x KB card is perfect.
#6

1.  I can not minimalize the opened window of the program
ALT+Tab to switch to another program.
2. Do not have prores for rendering
Get Avids free cross platform DNxHD codec which is visually lossless just like ProRes 422HQ. (I use Avid DNxHD 422 10bit)
3. Don't know how to work with Davinci and Sony Vegas in one time
Watch this, http://nofilmschool.com/2013/09/tutorial-canon-5d-mark-iii-magic-lantern-raw-offline-online/  You can use as much as as little of this as you want.  I use the first few steps to get an Avid DNxHD 422 10bit file and use that through final.  My laptop has a crappy video card and it processes the DNG raw to the avid file at about 10fps and my desktop does it at about 50 fps....

#7
These guys do a great tutorial on this http://nofilmschool.com/2013/09/tutorial-canon-5d-mark-iii-magic-lantern-raw-offline-online/

They go through extraction with an automator in MAC
creating a proxy
exporting to Premiere
Importing - edit and export of premiere back into da vinci
Replace edit parts with original, and render.

I dont use there entire step process. I just go ahead and make my proxy DNxHD 1080p 422 with highlight recovery done and use that. It comes out really good and I'm pretty sure its visually lossless.
#8
No issues like this for me on my KB 128gb 1050x or 64gb 1000x. The 128gb isn't quite fast enough to be a reliable performer, but the 64gb works perfectly.
#9
I know this might me a little off topic for this post, but how do you actually record over 1080p in raw?
#10
I thought the MLV module was more efficient than the RAW module.
#11
I'm not sure if there are some settings i've messed for the high FPS stuff. But If you could have the data rate stay the same as the 24p 1080 settings then you could probably do 15 second clips at 60p 1080... but since its drops to like 80 thats only your buffer.
#12
Raw Video / 48/50/60p data rate much lower than 24p/1080p
February 11, 2014, 04:07:50 PM
Hey guys, I'm wondering if i'm doing something wrong with this.

I've followed the guide in the sticky but the data rate it records won't really go above about 79-82mb/sec. At normal 1080p 24p RAW my data rate is between 85-110mb/sec on the Komputerbay 64gb card i have.

Is there some key setting i may have missed? Or is this just how the camera operates.
#13
Quote from: Nicolai1227 on February 11, 2014, 02:16:31 PM
I have a upcoming shoot in less than 2Weeks, we want to shoot @ 50fps. So far I am using my KB 64GB 1000x which works fine @50fps upscaling to 1920*818.

I am not sure if I should get the same card again or maybe use the 128GB 1050x? Anyone tried 50fps or compared the 2 cards?

Get more 64gb cards, the 128g 1050 isn't all its cracked up to be. Its slower. And a benchmark in playback is useless. So those numbers of 110-115 will not happen when you are actually recording.  I went from the 128 card to the 64gb and all the performance unreliablilities went away.

When you look at the card tests for different buffers on these tests.

64Gb - Out of the top 8 buffer sizes, 7 could do continuous recording.


128gb - Out of top 8 buffer sizes, 5 will do continuous OK.... probably, 2 of them are on the edge... so probably more like 3 out of 8.


The 64gb card is just way more consistent across the different buffer sizes.  I was convinced to get the 128gb 1050 card.. and i wish i just got the 64gb from the start. Don't get me wrong, the 128gb card is great.. inexpensive.. and fast... but not quite fast enough to be used in RAW with consistent performance.

And remember, if you are recording at High FPS those modes transfer even slower than in 1080p mode(at least i cant find a way for it to do it at the same speed) Regardless of card recording at high FPS seems to stay below 80mb/sec even though in 24p 1080p mode it tapes 110mb/sec on the 64gb card.
#14
I've tried the KomputerBay 128gb 1050x card that bench marks at about 92mb/sec with Global draw on. I could record 1080p RAW 24p with sound on a 5d3 for about 4-8gbs and it was kind of "iffy" with reliability, because of the data rate. When it was recording i never saw the data rate jump above 95mb/sec while recording.

I recently got a KomputerBay 64gb 1000x card and it bench marks at almost 100mb/sec and records continuously till the card fills up with sound 1080p 24p. Its very reliable in terms of being confident that the card Will not skip frames. 

I'm sure the Lexar  64gb 1000x cards are just as good or "better" but I'm not sure how much better for the price difference. 

And if you are worried about reliability of the card... The customer service at Komputerbay is awesome and the cards are lifetime warranty. I'm sure some people have had cards fail.. but that could happen with any brand since you are pushing the limits of the cards and your camera.  My card was barely "warm" after recording 60gb of raw straight.

All that said.. If the 90mb/sec card maxes out at that. I'm sure you can record short 10-20 sec clips for B-roll, but I wouldnt try to take anything on a paid gig unless i knew it was going to not skip frames 99.9% of the time.
#15
I've got all these settings. even with the exfat it only lasts till about 7-8gb. The card isn't really fast enough to be a reliable choice. If you used the KB 128gb 1050x and then used the 64gb 1000x you would know what I mean. I would be very nervous using the 128 on a paid gig and I would feel confident with the 64gb... That's the difference for me.
#16
Quote from: MichaelHeiland on January 21, 2014, 07:18:48 PM
add the Komputer Bay 128gig 1050x

It handles 1080x1920 at 30fps flawlessly.  Even with the new .MLV format to dump out a .WAV audio file.

I have this card and i don't agree at all. "flawless" would be that it can consistently record past the 4gb file mark and switch to next file without skipping frames. And at the beginning of the recording , for the first 10 seconds or so the buffer is struggling to keep up, then it smooths out till 45 sec (4gb mark) and then skips frame. A friend of mine gto the same card and has the same issues if not worse. If you are really getting this please share your settings as to how you got this.

I ordered a KB 64gb 1000x to try and THAT card is flawless. as soon as you press record in MLV with audio it says "Continuous OK" and the buffers never fills up more than 2/4 during file switching.

#17
Unless you are doing some crazy shadow and highlight corrections you should probably use day Da vinci Resolve.

I watched a tutorial online recently and it dramatically increased my workflow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jASBwVSOlXk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The "highlight recovery" box really does make a difference. If uou as rent on mac you can use Michael browser to rip all the dng and audio files into one folder. Then in da vinci you open the one folder and ot recognizes all the clip sequences. And on windows using DNxHD 422 is cross platformfor mac use where pro res is not with resolve. You will need to install the codec if you dont have it. Its from Avid and is free. 

After finding this I sont use ACR unless I have a complete turd of a shot that needs polishing.

Nofilmschool did a great job on the tutorial. You should check it out.  They go through it all.. even making proxies for editing and everything if you dont want to go street to a HQ intermediate format like prores 422 HQ.

Hope that helps.
#18
Thanks so much for the info about the KB 64gb 1000x card. I got it today and was able to record till the card was filed up with Raw 1080p 24fps with MLv sound.

As soon as I press record it says continuous record OK. And when it switches over from one 4gb file to the next the buffer only fills up 1 out of 4 then goes back to almost no buffer being used.

I wonder if KB will take back my 128gb 1050x card even though I've had it for a months. I'd gladly send it back to get 2 64gb cards and pay the difference... I think the 128gb card is about $170... And 2 64gbs are about $225.
#19
If anything, they probably told a friend, who told a friend, who told a friend etc... that they tried to do something and the camera froze... seemingly "bricking" the camera... But... just take the battery out and put it back in and its back on.

Or take battery and SD card with ML out and then put the battery in and its stock.

Ps. I'm not responsible for your hardware if you brick it using ML.. and neither are they. ;-) With that said.. I don't know if they have anything released to public that could do so.
#20
Raw Video / Re: MLV + Sound
February 04, 2014, 06:01:57 PM
OK, yeah I understand how to use it as is. Just wanted to see if there were any update to it that I missed.
#21
Raw Video / MLV + Sound
February 04, 2014, 03:18:12 PM
Hey guys, I've been wondering if there is an updated mlv_and.MO that doesn't have a fee extra frames of audio at the end.

Right now when I pull my footages into resolve and pull the audio in as well it offsets the next audio since each audio file is a bit longer than the video file.

Any help would be appreciated.
#22
Ok, so I just ordered a 1000x 64gb Komputerbay card. I'll see how it goes compated to the 1050x 128gb KB i have already.

The 128 seems to need just a tad more speed and it would be solid. Hopefully this 64gb card will do it.
#23
I've seen many reports of people using the komputerbay stuff will success.

What are the tests with 64gb lexar vs KB on movie mode with and without GD on at 1080 24p
#24
I just loaded up the Nightly build for today 2/3/14

Both tests done in Mode: Movie 1920x1080 24p

2 fastest with GD ON
Write speed (buffer=16384k): 90.7MB/s
Write speed (buffer=15625k): 91.2MB/s

2 fastest with GD OFF
Write speed (buffer=16384k): 92.0MB/s
Write speed (buffer=15625k): 91.7MB/s

On this build I was able to record past 4gb once and skipped at 11gb. then when i tried again it stopped at 4 gb at 1920x1080.

I'm doing all the video recording tests with sound since thats why i would need to record more than 4gb.

It says that 1080p should only require about 82.9mb/sec and my cards are benching at 90s for there fastest buffer. shouldnt that be enough to cover audio and be stable?  What do the 64gb cards test at on a fresh format? is it in the 100s?

I'm not sure how realistic it is to want the buffer meter to jsut stay in the first bank instead of shooting up to 3.5 bars and then slowly going down every so often. Am I wanting something that isn't possible?
#25
What are the proper steps to benchmarking? Playback mode gives an un realistic result compared to video mode with live view up.