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Hey, great to see these new features.

I'm having an issue when I try the preview function however:

Line 9508 file batchelor_3.0alpha3.exe

error: array variable has incorrect number of subscripts or subscript dimension range exceeded.

Any ideas? Thanks!

Be careful with iPad clappers. I was working on a music video that tried to use a clapper app and it ended up becoming way more trouble than it was worth.

Regardless, good luck!

@fatpig
Actually, I didn't rename the .RAW, just the output file from its default, if based on the original RAW. It created the folder from these new files but they were all very strange formats. something like .p #@% or something. So I turned off the rename option and then it worked fine creating proper dngs.

So, when I tried to change the file names to something other than default, it created all these .p or something files instead of dngs...

Smart slates are expensive. 

A few seconds to get that clap in there in a short .wav would be great.

Build is great but I'd also love to see an option for sound back. I understand that it causes issues with the buffer but as fatpig suggested, perhaps a few seconds? With the 5DmkII the audio in previous builds seemed to match up very easily with the start of the clip, making syncing external audio MUCH easier. I'm trying to think of this in terms of shooting a low-budget film, and audio syncing would be a constant.

On the newest build, or what was newest about a week ago I guess, I managed to record 1880 x 800, until the card stopped (about 2.5 minutes) with a SanDisk 60 MB/s card. Has anyone else had these results? If so it seems like the newer builds are really getting amazing.

The ffmpeg libx264 can be picky about video resolutions. 940x353 sounds like it could be problematic. In the preset for mp4 I added a scale setting that has worked for me. Can you check that you have -vf "scale=1920:trunc(ow/a/2)*2" in the preset you are using. This scales up to 1920 and may cut some lines to make it work.

You can change the 1920 width to something you like better.

Sorry, didn't see this! Thanks. I didn't have anything like that in my preset so I added it as the bottom line under the other settings, and I'll give it a test soon to see if that helps anything.

John,
Thanks, but the shot I'm talking about wasn't taken for proper exposure of the interior since I was only playing around with bringing out the highlights of the sky and brought up the darker areas to test where they stood, only.  I was really just seeing how long the 5DmkII could record on my CF card on the newest build. (over two minutes on a 60mb/s card until the card was full!! Very impressive.)

My concern with the image, which is by no means clean and well exposed, is that it looked much worse when processed through Ginger, than ACR, when rendered out in after effects. As you can see by the two examples I posted, the first being from Ginger, there's a large difference in amount of grain or noise and I simply wanted to figure out why. I'd love to be able to use native dng support in both AE and PPro, but there's no way I could do that currently with the way it added noise to my files. I don't believe Ginger's clean version of the raw file is it, either, as the files looked better in a image preview than when they were imported through the wrapper. And the same files, when opened with only ACR's base processing, looked about the same as the preview. Ginger added noise and color distortion.

I'm hoping it's simply a setting I haven't set properly.

Thanks!

Any idea why I'm getting my error?

Thanks!

Sure,

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-tH0mvjEp1Ka2M1ajl1TjJ4X2M/edit?usp=sharing

I forget the ISO exactly, but it was fairly low for how grainy the image is. I've found that it looks bad in whatever image viewer I have for Windows, but renders, normally, out great in After Effects, or at least very decent. It's possible it's something to do with the processing.

This was my first attempt at a long recording. With the new ML build I got near continuous shooting on the 5DmkII at 1880x800, so this file was spanned over a few clips, and then processed using Rawanizer. Maybe somewhere down the line it had grain added, but as of now when I import the same file into AE, without the wrapper, I don't get all that noise. And since there is a bit of noise reduction added in ACR it looks much better than the normal image viewer preview.

Thanks for your help!

Hey,
I am/was pretty excited about this workflow and I've been playing around with it. However, a recent video I shot, which looks fine in the ACR editor, when imported into premiere looks extra grainy. When imported into AE, it looks really bad. Is this something that's on-going or is it something I could fix/change about the workflow? The DNGs were first edited through ACR and then imported into AE with the GingerWrapper.



https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-tH0mvjEp1Kbm5WSGI4Sko2Njg/edit?usp=sharing

I love the program as the proxy files can be extremely helpful for an editing workflow. However, about half the time I get this sort of message when trying to make the videos. If I'm converting two RAW files sometimes the first will get a working proxy video, the second will give this error. And repeated attempts don't change it. Is it the file or maybe a setting? Using 5.3

13:30:55 Start converting tiff from join.dng
13:35:17 Finished
13:35:17 Start creating proxy from join.dng
13:35:18 Failed:
ffmpeg version N-35966-g1d0ae92, Copyright (c) 2000-2011 the FFmpeg developers
  built on Dec 19 2011 13:01:15 with gcc 4.6.2
  configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-bzlib --enable-frei0r --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libfreetype --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --enable-zlib
  libavutil    51. 32. 0 / 51. 32. 0
  libavcodec   53. 46. 1 / 53. 46. 1
  libavformat  53. 27. 0 / 53. 27. 0
  libavdevice  53.  4. 0 / 53.  4. 0
  libavfilter   2. 53. 0 /  2. 53. 0
  libswscale    2.  1. 0 /  2.  1. 0
  libpostproc  51.  2. 0 / 51.  2. 0
Input #0, image2, from 'G:\RAW video test\window\join.dng\proxytiff\M%06d.tiff':
  Duration: 00:02:24.41, start: 0.000000, bitrate: N/A
    Stream #0:0: Video: tiff, rgba, 940x353, 24 fps, 24 tbr, 24 tbn, 24 tbc
Input #1, wav, from 'C:\Program Files (x86)\RAWanizer\Tools\dummy1s.wav':
  Metadata:
    TCOD            : 0
    TCDO            : 9986848
  Duration: 00:00:00.99, bitrate: 706 kb/s
    Stream #1:0: Audio: pcm_s16le ([1][0][0][0] / 0x0001), 44100 Hz, 1 channels, s16, 705 kb/s
Incompatible pixel format 'rgba' for codec 'libx264', auto-selecting format 'yuv420p'
[buffer @ 03564FC0] w:940 h:353 pixfmt:rgba tb:1/1000000 sar:0/1 sws_param:
[buffersink @ 03565020] auto-inserting filter 'auto-inserted scale 0' between the filter 'src' and the filter 'out'
[scale @ 035650E0] w:940 h:353 fmt:rgba -> w:940 h:353 fmt:yuv420p flags:0x4
[libx264 @ 03589740] height not divisible by 2 (940x353)
Output #0, mp4, to 'G:\RAW video test\window\join.proxy.mp4':
    Stream #0:0: Video: h264, yuv420p, 940x353, q=-1--1, 5000 kb/s, 90k tbn, 24 tbc
    Stream #0:1: Audio: none, 44100 Hz, 1 channels, s16, 128 kb/s
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (tiff -> libx264)
  Stream #1:0 -> #0:1 (pcm_s16le -> aac)
Error while opening encoder for output stream #0:0 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height

iunknown,
What I do with this method, which has worked very well (thanks noisyboy!), is once I have the doubled edits in premiere I select the top track, send those to after effects and then once after effects opens all the proxies I simply select each clip and replace it with the DNG sequence. That way all the edits are still there, but now in Premiere I have identical tracks, one is RAW and one is proxy.

Just be careful if you're using something that creates proxies that are half the size of the final video. you'll need to make sure your premiere sequence is the correct larger resolution.

Canon 5DmkII
Rokinon 35mm Cine
SanDisk 60 MB/s

Hmm... I've been shooting with the 5dmkII and editing my shots in photoshop, then importing the sequence into after effects. Shooting indoors with pans from dark walls to windows, or direct sun, etc, and I haven't seen any flickering so far. I'm using photoshop cs6. I'm assuming that would be process 2012? What could be causing that issue for you guys?

You're actually probably using the module that records by pressing the joystick-like button near the top right of the screen. That's currently what starts and stops the recording, not the LV button or a "start" in the menu, like it used to.

That's true about the cards. I get fine 720 as well on my Extreme 60mb, just figured it was worth thinking about if someone wanted to record at lower resolutions with full use of their lens, for certain projects.

If not then that's all good.

Sorry, yeah, downscaling. With the 720 recording crop the mkII can record aps-c lenses great, but the problem is I don't have many of those. I just figured that since you can shoot raw stills downscaled on the camera, that video should also be possible. Perhaps this can be done with the 12/10bit that's being worked on. That way we could record lower resolution with the full viewing angle of the full-frame lens.

I'm sure it's not easy by any means but it seems like it should be possible.

Got ya, Alex. heh. Thanks. It's a shame Canon doesn't embrace all of this and help everyone make their cameras the best they can be. Luckily for all us nerds and independent filmmakers, you guys exist.

What I meant was if the camera can shoot in a lower quality RAW image, sRAW2, then would it be possible to do that with video. So for lower speed cards record in 720p but utilize the full lens view. The camera can do this just fine with RAW images.

Is this a feature that seems possible to anyone or am I just missing something pretty straight forward?

Long time ML user since my Powershot A630. Finally signed up for the forum since I spent all day geeking out about RAW.

I apologize if this has already been covered but I can't seem to have much luck with the forum searching.

Is it possible, or might it be at some point, to record a 720 RAW clip using the full 5DmkII sensor, instead of cropping the screen? If it's the same aspect ratio is it possible to basically treat it like a sRAW1 or sRAW2? For now I would love to play around with the RAW video, even at 720, but it's hard to get around the major cropping after using the full-frame for so long.