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#1
Archived porting threads / Canon 70D
September 20, 2013, 03:04:17 PM
I'm considering buying one but i wonder if it ll be complicated to port ML on the 70D ?
It uses Digic 5+, is in the 60D's lineup...

Just an early opinion ?

Thank u guys !
#2
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
August 17, 2013, 11:26:59 PM
Yes Noisyboy... give up the beach, come back to work on ML !!!
#3
Anyone compared dualISO with a regular 2 expo HDR picture ?
Cause dualISO is fine, you don't need a tripod (!) but it costs in aliasing and resolution.

As read in posts, dualISO enhance pic's DR.
Anyone knows how DR can be estimated from a HDR (ISO shift, not aperture shift) of 2/3/5 pics ?

On the video side, would be interesting to test DualISO with Mosaic Engineering filter...
About aliasing mainly.

Update: Spent a few hours in Photomatix Pro, mixing 2 or 3 expo "classical" HDRs..... (ISO shift)
i never get even close to the result of DualIso....

How are mixed the 2 expo in cr2hdr ???
It's a fusion, of course, not a tone map but i sould miss something !

Someone knows ?
#4
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
August 14, 2013, 05:16:08 PM
Anyone compared dualISO with a regular 2 expo HDR picture ?
Cause dualISO is fine, you don't need a tripod (!) but it costs in aliasing and resolution.

As read in posts, dualISO enhance pic's DR.
Anyone knows how DR can be estimated from a HDR (ISO shift, not aperture shift) of 2/3/5 pics ?

On the video side, would be interesting to test DualISO with Mosaic Engineering filter...
About aliasing mainly.

Update
: Spent a few hours in Photomatix Pro, mixing 2 or 3 expo "classical" HDRs..... (ISO shift)
i never get even close to the result of DualIso....

How are mixed the 2 expo in cr2hdr ???
It's a fusion, of course, not a tone map but i sould miss something !

Someone knows ?
#5
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
July 22, 2013, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: Cloud_Walker on July 22, 2013, 10:55:58 AM

1. What SD cards do you recommend, and is that the current bottleneck?

2. When I had the build with RAW video installed, the ML menu would spontaneously close itself out after only a few seconds - quite annoying.  Had to switch it back to a previous release (glad I kept those file and their instructions on my computer!).  What am I doing wrong?

1. Forget Transcend, use Sandisk Extreme 32/64/128GB or Extreme PRO 32/64GB
2. Long time bug... When ML menu is displayed, if you don't click any button, it quits. Normal behaviour for now.

(you can record continuously only at resolutions like 1536x636 or 1600x640)
#6
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
July 04, 2013, 02:07:20 AM
Guys, u can't be serious !

You are again talking about the last ****ing pixels from HD when, 2 month ago, we were able to shoot only 34 frames YUV422 by sequence....

Look around you, search another camera with a ML project equivalent, adding more and more features to your camera, days after days.... for free ! Look any camera firmware update to realise what ML team already gave to us...

IMO, be patient or buy a 5D Mark III...


#7
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 29, 2013, 08:54:27 PM
32GB Sandisk Extreme PRO (95MB/s): video mode, all hacks activated except preview Canon, disp timers disabled before LV

1600x670 40.1MB/s: 1m20, 1930 frames till drops
1600x680 40.4MB/s: 1m12, 1500 frames till drops
1664x666 40.4MB/s: 1m01, 1400 frames till drops
1792x750 40.4MB/s: 15s, 400 frames till drops
1808x756 40.5MB/s: 15s, 400 frames till drops
1808x770 40.3MB/s: 14s, 280 frames till drops

Make me wonder.... with the ultimate card (this Sandisk 95MB/s), it always displays 40.xMB/s in every resolution....
How is calculated this speed ? It is writing speed to the card (out of buffers) or the speed used to feed the buffers ?

Re-tested the Toshiba EXCERIA with ML benchmark, it seems non stable concerning writing speed...
I don't have those jumps from... 22.5MB/s to 40.7MB/s while testing the card with ATTO on PC... only happends in the cam....
I'm testing with files of 2048MB and 4096MB.... same result. Strange.
There's also another thing: Toshiba Exceria, Lexar Pro 600x, lexar 200X .... are all SDXC cards... The sandisk extreme pro is SDHC...
Still this PC50 PC104 thing....

#8
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 29, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
Quest for speed, act II:

This morning, i received 2 new SD cards and i can now recommand the BEST SD card for the 6D (in my case).

I tested every card formated exFat in a USB3 card reader with ATTO software.
Lots of benchs but one very important: 2048MB file read/write (numbers are the same with 4096MB files)

SANDISK Extreme PRO 32GB (95MB/s) => Read: 89.677MB/s  Write: 76.983MB/s
SANDISK Extreme 128GB (45MB/s) =>  Read: 49.765MB/s  Write: 42.881MB/s
LEXAR Professional 64GB (600X) => Read: 85.488MB/s  Write: 26.951MB/s
LEXAR 64GB (200X) = > Read: 45.420MB/s  Write: 34.195MB/s
TOSHIBA EXCERIA Type2 64GB (95/60MB/s) => Read: 88.690MB/s  Write: 64.839MB/s

The Sandisk Extreme PRO is just the best, as i expected but is, for now, limited to 64GB and cost a leg ! The extreme version costs lots less but... we could be limited speaking of RAW video recording... one day.

The LEXAR PRO is.... very disapointing in term of writing speed...

This TOSHIBA card is very promizing and in my opinion gets the best price/performance !!
With a write speed of 64+MB/s, we could get a lot of room to let ML grab some more MB/s !!!

Next episode: all those cards recording Raw... how long can they record... ??


Edit: Damned ! In camera, the Toshiba doesn't handle high writing speed as good as the Sandisk Extreme PRO....
At the end, it's a good 64GB card but.... not enough for raw video ! On the distance, the Sandisk Extreme PRO seems to handle better raw video by allowing about 10% more recording time.

For now, we are stucked with Sandisk !




#9
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 27, 2013, 02:37:52 PM
Tested rawtypes 0 to 9 this morning...... very long.

A script firing "Don't click me", changing RawType +1, firing "Don't click me"  ... etc would be nice.
5 scripts to test let's say 0-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80, 81-100

20 series x 100 dngs x 4MB = 8GB

Then another script to analyse results.... mesuring noise (counting non black pixels ?)
Moiré, banding... harder to mesure softly...
:)
#10
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 27, 2013, 01:14:36 AM
God, lots of combinations !

Just get the best result with rawtype hex32 = 1e
Quasi get rid of banding in every non breaked pic.

What's behind "rawtype" ?
#11
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 27, 2013, 12:18:46 AM
I love comics ! Books with pics !!

Thanks !

As an ideal i shall test from rawtype 20 to 30 ?
And with the "best raw type", in the 100 dngs i would get...

Overall less noise/banding ? Less breaked pics ?
#12
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 26, 2013, 10:56:20 PM
Sorry, definatly out of my understanding...

The HexDump is 6 digits
Quote from: 1% on June 26, 2013, 09:23:40 PM
7e024 is raw type, you have to set hexdump to go there, its a memory browser, it'll change right away.

Where must i set the raw type 7e024 ?
Once i reach the Raw type mem address, what do i have to modify ?
#13
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 26, 2013, 08:40:19 PM
OK, same test with HEXDump @ 5028

The test i made: noise & banding test

Cap on the lens, 1600 iso, f4 (full open)
In Lightroom +4 clicks on expo.

The best are imgs:
- 18 and 25
- 57 and 58, as you think, histograme is empty, so breaked pic.

It's hard to say again btw img #18 and #25. Noise and banding are there in both... but very close.

#14
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 26, 2013, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: 1% on June 26, 2013, 03:49:16 AM
Go to debug -> memory browser. Select 7e024.. turn on raw video, then you can try out raw type on the fly.
int32 type 16 is what 5d3 uses, default is hex 22 which is int 34 to keep it consistent.
check out raw zebra on int 23, which is close to the non working img25... also 28 is one up from img27.. they both seem to "clean out" the shadows.

Humm, only thing i can change in memory browser is select "5024" for Hexdump
#15
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 26, 2013, 02:56:32 AM
Quote from: noisyboy on June 26, 2013, 12:25:08 AM
Yeah! 2003 is the one that seemed to help things ;)
Noisyboy, take a pic @ 1600 iso with cap on, then push expo to +4 clicks in LR.
You can compare image switching processus 2012 and 2003....

For me a LOT of color noise added by processus 2003.
It's a lab test... perhaps acting differently with real life pics so... deep test it.
#16
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 26, 2013, 02:48:15 AM
The test i made: the best noise & banding test i think

Cap on the lens, 1600 iso, f4 (full open)
In Lightroom +4 clicks on expo.

The best are imgs:
- 25 and 27 exactly the same pictures
- 36 and 38 exactly the same pictures

- 57 and 58 exactly the same pictures. Perhaps an issue here. Pictures even with +10 clicks on expo are full black... as if the pic wasn't take.

I would choose img #25. Banding and color noise is in every pictures but imo, the #25 img shows less banding and color noise.

Others are breaked or show way too much color noise.
#17
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 25, 2013, 11:05:29 PM
Interesting so let's start googling what adobe changed btw process 2012 and 2013 !
#18
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 25, 2013, 08:48:13 PM
Personaly, banding is present in shadow areas. Make the test in a room with low ligh, you ll find it.

Edit: .... perhaps the best banding test is "cap on" :)
#19
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 25, 2013, 04:11:26 PM
I think while RAW video doesn't path thru Canon optimisations... it's part of raw data.

Testing those 100 dngs, i presume it's in fact testing diferent timer options to find
the best producing the less artefacts, no ? (1% ?)

Getting raw data, you also get sensor/electronic weirdness like color shift, artefacts....
Once you know them, some can be fixed while recording file in cam or while converting DNG
with raw2dng.

#20
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 25, 2013, 03:57:37 PM
Quote from: noisyboy on June 25, 2013, 02:56:15 PM
(which I guess is moire?) but I have never seen the horizontal dots in anything I've shot before...
This is a kind of moiré/artefact affecting edges.

"Real moiré", you can't miss it, just shoot something with a lot of vert/horz. lines.... you will find it easily...
You will also easily see aliasing...

Here, my favorite target is my slate roof.... I always know where to find some moiré & aliasing ....

In the 100 dng files.... quasi no difference concerning "real moiré"... :(


#21
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 25, 2013, 02:05:22 PM
With update: [6D] RawtypeTEST.zip
Sandisk Extreme Pro (95MB/s) formated exFAT - Exp Override ON - Global draw OFF - FPS Override 23.976 - Preview Canon
Debug: dialog timers disabled

[email protected]: 12.15 minutes / 30.31GB without frame drop ! => Card full (32GB)
[email protected]: 1.24 minute without frame drop
[email protected]: 1.12 minute without frame drop
[email protected]: 3.50 minutes without frame drop
[email protected]: 55 seconds without frame drop
[email protected]: 50 seconds without frame drop
[email protected]: 30 seconds without frame drop
[email protected]: 1.27 minute without frame drop EXTREME !
#22
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 24, 2013, 04:56:17 PM
In which order is it important ?

#1 - the less moiré (i presume)
#2 - the less banding
#3 - the less color noise
#4 - the less b/w noise

Will this pic choice be the same for all 6D cameras ?
#23
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 24, 2013, 02:45:51 PM
So we get 100 DNG files.

71 of them are breaked => trash
29 of them seems to have different expo/noise level

The goal is to find which one is the best ?
Less noise ? Best details ?

for myself, it's the #25
Sharpest, lowest noise, bit of vertical banding in blacks

So... we can modify a setting according to this choice ?
#24
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 24, 2013, 02:43:45 AM
Understood, with last update, when clicking "don't click me", a  bunch of raw tests begin
So it generates DNG files of different type.... (resolution ?) to let us check what is the best moireless type, right ?
#25
Tragic Lantern / Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
June 24, 2013, 02:27:10 AM
I'm also kind of lost