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what about the new streaming that a1ex released? is gonna improve buffering on the 600d?

Where is that located? curious about that. I would like to locate someone that has that filter and see what the results are with RAW. Trying to message the maker of the video test to see if they would be willing to try it and see how it does.

ok, possible game changer.... Expensive, but Is now on my short list of things to get.....



http://store.mosaicengineering.com/VAF-TXi-Moire-Aliasing-Filter_p_14.html


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Okay, since I seem to have a bit more female in me than I realized, I can't make up my mind.    With RAW in mind, which camera (Canon DSLR) is the best for using this feature. I would like to avoid the MKIII cost, so which of the "lower" cost DSLR's is best so far (Current product line).

Looking for the biggest bang for the buck and good low light in the h264 modes as well.

thinking I'm gonna use raw on the 600D for some greenscreen tests and see what happens... Just went back and looked at some h264 footage, and compared the two directly, and I like the h264 better overall. However, I looked at some footage from the MKIII and OMG. I just don't want to spend that kind of money. I'm thinking the BMPC and tokina 11-16 eos mount and a eos to mft adapter...

Shot some test footage in 720p mode. Aliasing and moire are present, but the added dynamic range is worth it. Had a few "blinky sky" moments, but looking at the individual dng files to see if I can correct them individually in ACR. The other flickering is due to the lens I used... Sigma 18-50 without constant aperture, so zooming is a no no, but hey this was only a test of dynamic range and flexibility in RAW.

Where is this raw footage? I've only seen Prores and I haven't seen any official BM announcements about final release specs

Final release specs are on the site, and the camera is still scheduled for production release in late July. From what I can gleen, the firmware is still a work in progress, so I guess they better get their butts in gear for the release dates. All point to being able to shoot Cinema DNG (Raw) on high speed SD cards, which is the whole point of the camera and pricepoint. If they don't deliver, then, well, too bad for them. I did find that there are a few "DNG" sequences out there, but they are only available to view as compressed streaming files, and until the firmware is finalized, you won't see camera files released to the public

The BM Pocket CC doesn't shoot raw video yet and it will not ship with raw recording features afaik. It's a concept and you don't know what additional equipment you may actually need ....but yes, I still want one too

Where are you seeing this information? Everything I've seen on the camera, including sample footage from the "previews" sent to certain people, show raw recording is functioning on these cameras, and will ship with the feature fully functional. 

If the .h264 is good enough for broadcast television and feature films**, then this, even though lower resolution, opens up a number of possibilities. There are "optical" ways to limit aliasing and and other issues, plus using higher resolution raw for shorter shots (planning) then this is a viable tool, even on the 600D/T3i. I've gotten wonderful results at higher resolutions in 720 mode, even with the line skipping, and using 40+ year old lenses minimizes the aliasing without additional filters. As with all tools, there is a time and place to use them. Forget about looking at 100% crops, look at the overall aesthetic of what you are shooting. Granted, the 600D/T3i is not as robust as the 7D or especially the 5DII or III, but for my purposes, which are primarily DVD, Standard Def Television, or web, this raw mode is a godsend. I will be using it for very specific purposes, such as greenscreen (where you can never have too much data, and shots that require high latitude. but for general shooting, I will likely stay with the .h264. Granted, the 600D is no 5D, but is close to the 7D in many ways with the exception of dual processors. Same line skipping, same codec, very similar latitude, and if you use high quality glass I would hazard a guess anyone would be hard pressed to tell the difference. I routinely crank up the bitrate (thanks ML team) for certain projects, and raw is just another tool. Remember, a few short years ago, many of us were either stuck with DV or HDV for professional work. Though I've used a Cine-Alta on a few occasions, there are far smaller, and more manageable cameras that yield similar if not superior quality these days. Just trying to keep perspective here.

**Canon DSLR's have been used on:

House - 5D Mark II

24 - 5D Mark II

127 Hours - Canon 1D Mark IV, Canon 5D Mark II, Canon 7D

Act of Valor - Canon 5D Mark II, Canon 7D, & Canon 1D Mark IV

The Avengers - Canon 5D Mark II & Canon 7D

Black Swan - Canon 7D & Canon 5D Mark II

Captain America - Canon 5D Mark II

Iron Man 2 - Canon 5D Mark II

Like Crazy - Canon 7D

The Pirates! Band of Misfits - Canon 5D Mark II

Red State - Canon 7D

Red Tails - Canon 1D Mark IV, Canon 5D Mark II, & Canon 7D

etc...

shot this yesterday. Though there is moire and some aliasing I can live with it. Did some minor tweaking in ARC but otherwise untouched. Getting great results in 720 mode at 1408x352. scales to 1280x536 just fine. My favorite aspect ratio anyway, so I'm geeked. Just random shots highlighting the dynamic range.

P.S. No magenta and a few shots over 1700 frames in length. Perfect for narrative shooting. Going to run a continuous shot today to see how it holds up over time, but I'm thinking I found my "sweet spot" for my needs.

6/5/13 update. shot several more shots... (2 over 3 minutes in length) only one corrupt frame, but was only the last frame, on only one of the shots. Completely usable now. I'm beside myself with glee. This is the most amazing thing since ML released it's first stable release. Absolutely amazing. Thanks 1% and anyone else for putting so much hard work into this. I'm hoping Canon, if anything, adopts this as a factory option, and compensates your work accordingly.

I will be watching for updates, as they seem to get better with each release. Now I just need a few more 16GB cards and a little more patience and planning while shooting. I was planning on getting the BM Cine 4k cam, but now, I'm going to get another T3i, and rent the other if I need it. going to shoot some more, and pull a favor in from a friend, and get some projected at the local theater to see what it looks like on the big screen. Their Christie system is amazing, and is rather easy to deal with, so when I get this done, I will let you all know how it turns out.

Yes I can confirm the exposure shifting is an ACR issue. The recording is ok.
Still have to find a solution... 

I've found that if you use the "auto" selection in ACR, it makes the funny exposure shifts. When I have a difficult shot, I open it through bridge first, then ACR and pick the frame I want the exposure a specific way on, and then synchronize the rest.

Through After Effects, it makes it difficult because (unless someone knows otherwise) I can only see the first frame of the clip. Also, by using Bridge, if you have the "carryover" frame from the previous clip, it makes it easy to delete it.

Also, commit to a white balance. If you use auto, it really goofs things up.

DCRAW or UFRAW should open them. Yea, they are sraw sized.

Also try dcraw -e *.CR2

Thanks a bunch....

Apparently my joy was premature. several other shots...all have magenta frames. trying a fresh low level format and reinstall. Fingers crossed

Okay, first shot no reformat, in fact I have a question I will pose in a minute because I did a dufus thing. But anywhoo, 1280x382 in 720 mode came out AMAZING!!! no magenta, no skips. decent record time. In fact I stopped it before it quit because I didn't want to wait to see the results. Heading out for more shots. If this one stays consistent, I will be ecstatic, and this will be my primary res for my narrative projects. 


forgot to ask the question.... I was in a rush this morning heading to a photo shoot, and forgot to change my card and the quality setting from sRAW. I shot several photos before realizing this, and since it was a timely thing, I cannot replicate the shots for several days. They review fine in camera, but bridge and ACR do not recognize them. Is there any way to save these images, Or am I stuck re-shooting them?

Apologies..... Even though I've been pointing out issues, I want to just say how thankful I am for the work being done, and how absolutely amazing this is.

I haven't had this happen, how fast is the card?


Going to try less aggressive allocation on this camera and see if it helps since now its not eating memory away. 6D is fine with 4MB backup. If pink frames got worse some maybe this is why.

16GB Sandisk Extreme 45MB/s U1 Class 10

I shot for over 50 seconds in 1080 (canon settings) at 1120x468 2.39:1. First shot no magenta at all. Rock solid... Second through fourth shots progressively got worse, and shorter. Fresh format (exFat) using EOScard, with stable 2.3 and the newest files from 1% as of the morning on the 30th.

The magenta issue seems to be getting worse on my T3i, and I have had no consistency as far as shot reliability. The best luck I had was in 720 mode at 1320x400. a little moire and aliasing, but fantastic dynamic range. then something odd happened. Every other file would read 1320x544, and when played back after importinig into AE, the image would roll like a film projector with a bad film gate. I've tried the 480 mode with several settings with no luck as far as magenta frames, or usable record times. sRAW, hacks on and off. same outcomes. Any thoughts?

Robrock, go to the first post of this thread, to the link where you get TL 2.0. Download the top two on the page, paste the contents of "aspect lock" onto your card, then replace the existing raw_rec module with the new one (edmac kill, have to rename it to just raw_rec.mo).

Got it, thanks a bunch

I installed everything again carefully and now things are working ok for 640 x 640 in my Sandisk Extreme 45MB/s (I have three of these so I would like to avoid buy another card) It works for 960 x 402 also, but does not work for 920 x 518 (skip frames), so...

Fingers crossed for the 854 x 480 because it is the same datarate of 640 x 640, my only hopes for 16:9 now !!!

where do I find these resolutions. I only have the originals mentioned previously, and cant seem to fine the files to enable these other resolutions

Finally!!!!! Getting great quality, no magenta. Getting happy 

ok, finally got it working after a few different tries. not really impressed with the raw though. tons of color shift and odd artifacts. also I'm getting the magenta frames at low res. More playing with settings I guess, unless someone has a list of settings/suggestions that work consistently.

I've done this and it still doesn't work. Any ideas?

Okay, RAWanizer doesn't work for me, I've posted on the other thread with the error I get. Is there another option for windows that doesn't have these issues? I would hate to build a linux box just for converting video files.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm pretty savvy with computers.

Raw plays back choppy and in black and white on the camera.

I keep getting an "unhandled exception" error, which gives me the option to continue or quit. If I hit continue, nothing happens. if I hit quit, well,, you get the idea... It says "Length cannot be less than zero. Parameter name: Length

I misunderstood your question earlier. My apologies

When others are referring to the modes they mean they are shooting raw but video mode (normal Canon video mode) is set to 720p or 1080p etc. In 720p it will line skip and the image will look squashed in a similar way to anamorphic but squashed vertically as opposed to horizontally. You can correct this by multiplying the height by x1.66 but leave the width the same. This is more prone to aliasing but means you save a little on filesize (i.e. get more frames/time or be able to shoot a wider frame). 1080p and 480p will appear in a normal aspect ratio. The video size does not correspond to the raw video size. You set that independently in the raw_rec module.

Gotcha, thanks a bunch. Not sure I like the crop of the raw, but will be trying other lenses to see what I can get. I get good record times on the low res side, but need to try a reformat to see if I can eek out a little more speed on the card. Oddly, the camera shuts down as if I'm not shooting at all. Guess I need to modify my power saving settings or something.

I've been using ML for over a year, but some of the settings are a little harder to find than before. No offense taken. The thing that is confusing me is I read that "so and so" used 640x480 mode, 1280x720 mode, and so on while trying high resolution raw cappture. I'm familiar with all video standards in general, but some of the posts are a tad confusing. I've been shooting professionally since 1984.

Okay, installed and working...sort of. Where do I find the enable/disable frame skipping, and how do I convert this .RAW to something usable in Windows. I downloaded the raw2dng and dragged a raw file to it, but my cmd window just flashes, and goes away.... any help would be greatly appreciated. also what is meant by 640/720/and 1080 recording modes? Is this the canon menu settings? If so, what difference does this make.

So much of this seems disjointed to me. Sorry for my ignorance

Rob