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Finally began working w/ the 5DIII more and I love it. Shot this in a 2.20:1 aspect for a 2.35:1 crop which worked w/ the 5D's full frame look. A bit of BMPCC mixed in there but mostly 5DIII

As a bonus, the same workflow but for a music video one-week later

General Help Q&A / Re: CF card nightmare, any help much appreciated
« on: January 19, 2014, 06:11:02 AM »
Soooo this thread was just ignored? NO ONE can help?

Feature Requests / Re: Lock 180 and 90 Degree Shutter.
« on: October 11, 2013, 06:49:59 AM »
This is actually a REALLY solid idea. I find myself doing the same thing and wishing for a feature such as this.

Raw Video / Re: How to review RAW footage?
« on: September 21, 2013, 11:12:05 AM »
ML raw isn't the best option for those kind of 'time critical' jobs. It's more like shooting on film.

Pretty much.

However, I've found from my experience that because we DO NOT have playback on set/location, the shoots move faster. If anything, the confidence stems from strong performances and the security of "did we get the shot and was it strong enough?", which brings it back to refusing to cut corners- like celluloid film. I enjoy that immensely, really.

"Chimping" on the camera is irritating as hell to me and the last thing we need as Cinematographers are everyone's opinions muddying up the focus on set. All that's need are for the Director to see the image (second monitor in hand), possibly 1st AC for pulling focus and of course the DP himself/herself.

Raw Video / Recovering a RAW file w/ 3 other files refuse to unpack
« on: July 19, 2013, 08:30:13 AM »
So after shooting a music video on the 50D, one scene spanned for more than 3min. or so, which lead to a .RAW chain of 3 files at 9.37GBs. However, for the life of me I cannot get the files to unpack. I've used Rawanizer, raw2dng and raw2cdng with no effect. The other files seem perfectly fine and they've all worked w/o a hit. But, this one actually contains a shot I would need, but cannot recover.

Is there any other way, or should I just cut my losses and leave well enough alone?

Raw Video / Re: 50D - 14bit raw video builds and test results
« on: July 06, 2013, 08:34:19 AM »
Wanted to share my latest piece using the 50D Raw (off of the June 28th build).
80% shot on raw, and slow mo pieces using 60D video.

It's becoming smoother using Davinci Resolve to start things off. The color matching gets a bit cluttered, but w/ a LOG export setup from the Raw sources (along w/ the video filmed in Vision Log), it streamlines things a bit.

Shot on Canon 50D w/ Magic Lantern 14bit DNG Raw.
Secondary shots on Canon 60D Raw (Super 16mm grade resolution) and 720p 60fps video (for slo-mo, using VisionColor picture style)

FILM GRAIN provided by VisionColor

Nikkor AI-S 28mm f2.8

Raw Video / Re: Turn your RAW footage into LOG
« on: July 06, 2013, 04:00:40 AM »
I can see the reason to do so; totally depends on your workflow.

You can easily have mixed media in the situation. For instance, I will shoot ML Raw for some shots and 60D's 720p 60p for slow motion work. Now if I'm shooting in Vision LOG or Cinestyle LOG for the Video work and mixing w/ the Raw frames, the images will obviously look DRASTICALLY different.

However, if you can covert the Raw files to a LOG profile, it's much easier to work with in post-edit color alongside the LOG-recorded Video clips (unless you're round tripping from the get go, which I don't like to do usually). Your final export would have the Raw and Video files all in a near-even LOG space, ready for a LUT and grade thereafter.

Raw Video / Re: 60D RAW video - it's working !!!
« on: July 02, 2013, 06:39:17 PM »
Hey guys here's my first video I shot using the raw format:

It was shot in 960x544 and then I output to 1280x720 (psd) from Lightroom and edit in Premiere Pro.

I have a few questions: Are there any simple solution to reducing/eliminating moire and aliasing? I know there's the VAF-60D, but it's way too expensive for me. Can anyone recommend a good efficient workflow? I don't know if my mind can handle going into 50+ folders in Lightroom, white balancing/tweaking them, and playing the waiting game while exporting each into PSD files again.


If you have a CUDA based card, then Davinci Resolve Lite is your best friend. Saves a TON of time processing the raw frames.

Raw Video / Re: 50D - 14bit raw video builds and test results
« on: June 20, 2013, 02:14:17 PM »
Alright so during a fashion shoot yesterday, I was getting pink frames all over the place. The last time this happened, I was shooting w/ the 60D in raw as well. Both environments here fairly hot, especially yesterday's ext. shoot. Does heat or battery power have anything to do w/ this? While I was using a full battery, it was a low MAH (about 1400), while the other was 1700 and zero pink frames.

Just trying to narrow this down. Maybe I'm off somehow.

Raw Video / Re: 50D - 14bit raw video builds and test results
« on: June 18, 2013, 05:40:01 PM »
Upload a new build that fixes ETTR, ISO and Exposure Override issues that I was experiencing with manual lenses (thanks a1ex :) ):

This works and is up to date :)

Awesome sauce. Just tested this build and the two crucial functions that I needed are now added. Having the SET button to record, just the same was as it would for h264 video, and now finally it saves the RAW enabled function without my having to turn it on every time the camera goes to sleep or gets shut off.

As it states in the known issues in original post (easy to miss, I understand): Does not work with spaces in the file names. I think this is your problem.

Ooooohh, I see. GOTCHA, and thanks, man. Pardon my ignorance on that O_o

I'm getting the same error as everyone else beforehand.

13:54:30 Start converting tiff from Cntrl Park North.001.dng
13:57:32 Finished
13:57:32 Start creating proxy from Cntrl Park North.001.dng
13:57:32 Failed:
ffmpeg version N-35966-g1d0ae92, Copyright (c) 2000-2011 the FFmpeg developers
  built on Dec 19 2011 13:01:15 with gcc 4.6.2
  configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --disable-w32threads --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-bzlib --enable-frei0r --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libfreetype --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-librtmp --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-libtheora --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libx264 --enable-libxavs --enable-libxvid --enable-zlib
  libavutil    51. 32. 0 / 51. 32. 0
  libavcodec   53. 46. 1 / 53. 46. 1
  libavformat  53. 27. 0 / 53. 27. 0
  libavdevice  53.  4. 0 / 53.  4. 0
  libavfilter   2. 53. 0 /  2. 53. 0
  libswscale    2.  1. 0 /  2.  1. 0
  libpostproc  51.  2. 0 / 51.  2. 0
R:\Central Park North 110st\Cntrl Park North.001.dng\proxytiff\Cntrl Park North.001-%06d.tiff: No such file or directory

13:57:32 All items Finished

What's happening here? How do I prevent this?

Raw Video / Re: 50D - 14bit raw video builds and test results
« on: June 17, 2013, 02:32:08 AM »

In movie mode ETTR is not working correctly if Exposure Override is enabled. ISO is locked at 3200eq (Auto ETTR works OK in photo mode but raw must be selected)

re: raw_rec 'quick 'n' dirty' hack - Preview is fixed but now records pink frames (previously I had no pink frames)

1% has reported 'force left' (in raw_rec) is broken

I compiled a build to test this: In platform/50D.109/features.h I enabled 'FEATURE_LV_FOCUS_BOX_SNAP_TO_X5_RAW //compiles but not tested' It works OK on the 50d. Press joystick when in 5x zoom to correctly center the crop (no more off-center 1:1 shots  :))

I'm not sure how to push my commits to Bitbucket  :-\

Seeing same ISO issues as well. It's locked at a high ISO regardless of how I change it.

Sooooo I accidentally deleted the DNxHD option and now I cannot get it back. Is there any way of retrieving it (ver 0.5.4)? :-(

So I seem to have created a proper CC cocktail that works [for now] for a DNxHD transcode. I'm sure I'll change it more as time goes by, but so far this matches my custom settings in ACR.

-b 1.0 -o 1 -H 9 -6 -g 2.2 20.0

Is it also possible to have proxy jpeg alongside the option for proxy tiffs?

There are a few issues though.

I always tend to adjust the highlights, whites and color correct from Adobe Camera Raw before I want to create a usable video file. I started messing with the custom DNG option, which doesn't use the parameters from ACR, but instead it's own UI. However, the UI is extremely confusing. I would adjust the highlight recovery option and sometimes the highlights would dip down and other times the entire gamma of the image is affected. You cannot adjust the blacks specifically, only the gamma and then sometimes the slider (to the right) increases the exposure and other times (to the left) it decreases. Then other times, it does the opposite effect.

It's very confusing overall. Is there a way to use ONLY the ACR settings (which I setup in Bridge) and not the custom DNG "Build" UI settings? It's incredibly imprecise and I won't be able to use the DNG files the way they're meant to be (unless we're just doing this to batch convert solely).

This is an INCREDIBLY useful software! Loving it so far and doing a test with today's footage :)

Raw Video / Re: 60D RAW video - it's working !!!
« on: May 28, 2013, 11:19:50 PM »
I'm madly in love with VisionColor, Tech and Log, but it doesn't have an affect on RAW the way I would want. However if I'm recording video, I ONLY use their picture styles.

I just picked up a 50D from Adorama an hour ago and installing ML on it now as we speak. We'll see how the "upgrade" works out :)

Raw Video / Re: 60D RAW video - it's working !!!
« on: May 28, 2013, 07:57:05 PM »
That makes sense. So the picture profile is only for LiveView and has no impact on the RAW frames..

Makes sense then :)

Someone also mentioned being able to shoot in 1120x468 resolution, though I'm not seeing this on the 60D. Is this possible here, or is it a product of the 600D and 550D?

Raw Video / Re: 60D RAW video - it's working !!!
« on: May 28, 2013, 07:06:39 PM »
@KahL - Picture Style choice does not affect raw video recording in any way :)

You're right for the most part, especially w/ this early code's magenta shift issues. However whenever I'm shooting stills in RAW, the picture style still shows through. It's not as heavy as it would be had it been in jpeg, but the characteristics remain somewhat I've seen.

Raw Video / Re: 60D RAW video - it's working !!!
« on: May 28, 2013, 06:49:50 PM »
My unscientific test using RAW on the 60D, off of the Vision Log and Vision Color profiles (not as detrimental in RAW as is w/ h264).

This was a shot test using the Magic Lantern early 60D code for RAW frame shooting. My main points of interest were in skin tones, resolution and latitude.
1.   The RAW workflow, for those who are unfamiliar w/ RAW still photography, is a very painstaking process. It is well worth it, but it isn’t as quick and immediate as in recording video. Keep in mind, filming in RAW is NOT video, they are still frames in a sequence (just to clarify that there isn’t such a thing as RAW VIDEO in the most literal sense).
2.   These were filmed at 960x408, a 2.35:1 frame crop, which lead to much longer scene filming through the 20MBps data cap limit of the 60D’s SD card buffer.
3.   The frame processing was done in Lightroom 4, which consisted of white balance correction (early code has a magenta shift), recovering highlights allowing from 1-2 stops of recovery and pulling up the blacks to flatten back to the Log look setup (shot on Vision Log).
4.   Finally, the frames were batch exported w/ a 1920px horizontal upscale in JPEG 100% quality, then imported as a frame sequence in premiere for editing.
5.   Color grading was done via a DPX export into AE CS6 and final delivery in h.264 at 28Mbps (Blu Ray quality).
This process reminds me SO much of processing film digitally. Additionally, the 960x408 upscale gives a very similar resolution to Super 16mm film. So as a fan of films such as The Hurt Locker, Hustle And Flow, The Wrestler and Black Swan, I’ve zero problem with the high latitude, but smooth-softened look of super 16 in a digital form :)
The resolution is MUCH better than the h264 files and the latitude isn't even comparable. Shooting in RAW gives such a large latitude advantage, it becomes a totally different conversation altogether. Much like shooting on film, you realize you can play much more w/ the imagery and don't need to be as protective of the highlights as you do when shooting video. It's a very different mindset and a much needed upgrade.
A GIGANTIC THANK YOU to the Magic Lantern team for putting all of their efforts into this!

Just a quick test, some awesome dynamic range.
May 16th nightly build

Very nice there :)

PS actually reads the 240 ppi of the RAW images but I think After Effects defaults to the 72 ppi of video. It should explain why the images don't upres equally:
After effects is resizing 1920x1080 72 ppi -> 4K (or whatever) 72 ppi
Photoshop should be using 1920x1080 240ppi -> 4K 72 ppi (supposing you are using video resolution)

Pretty much. And a better roundabout way of processing the images would be through Lightroom 4. Then export to TIFF frame sequence, then transcode to DNxHD/Prores, OR export as JPEG frame sequence and edit that natively.

This entire workflow of processing brings things to the days of film on a certain level. Most definitely not a workflow for many people asking for this feature and would be reserved for larger, more well developed production budgets.

In what way did you process this?

Well the POST work is my own private cocktail, and that's not the complete setup either.
But the DNG file was imported into photoshop, changed horizontal resolution to 1920 and then added some sharpening. They probably won't resolve very well beyond 1920, but like super 16, this is a great choice.

This is an overprocessed image, but I wanted to test it from Andrew Reid's 600D raw samples.
It's a 960x480, 240dpi resolution image. And when upscaled to 1920 horizontal resolution, it almost totally emulates the clarity of super 16 film!

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