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Is it possible to have the EOS M display ON while using the HDMI cable for an external monitor?  I like to use an external monitor but the touch screen display of the EOS M then gets disabled and no "easy" touch screen changes is then possible.  Regards and thanks for all the great work done!

It means the FPS timer limits are wrong. Find out the safe values by changing the timers manually, and I'll update them.

Thanks - will do and let you know.  (By saying "timers" you mean manually upping the FPS till it creates issues?)

Bitrate doesn't really change anything on the EOS M. FPS Override may be useful, but it disables sound. Movie crop mode makes for less noise and other weird stuff by just using the middle of the sensor.

Of course, you can experiment with RAW video, but for that you should check out the subforum dedicated to it.

I bumped up the FPS but even going to as little as 35 FPS makes the camera "hang" - only way to rectify then is to take out the battery.  The "crop" mode is blanked out....  Any ideas?

What ML settings should I look at (change) to get the "best" video out of my EOS M using the 22mm lens??  Regards and tx for the fantastic work!!

Just checking again...  I took a video yesterday with two EOS M cameras.  One camera runs ML (Nightly latest version) and the other EOS M is standard.  Both cameras were on tripods, running in Manual mode and were started with a single remote.  After 30 seconds I ended the recording.  The EOS M running ML was bumped up to X 2.5 in the movie menu and had a *.mov file much larger than the EOS M running standard.  I could not see a difference between the two movies when I viewed them.  Should ML not provide a better movie when bit rates are set higher than normal?  Comments?

"You have to learn about video formats."

Walter:

So let me put this in another way then.  I have two EOS Ms. On the one I have ML (latest Nightly Build) and have taken the video option (H.264) to X2.0.  I have shot the same video (simultaneously) with both of the cameras.  The video on the ML camera has a *.MOV file much larger then the standard EOS (which is understandable).  When I compare the two videos in my mind the ML video should be better?  In fact I see very little difference.

I used Vegas Pro 12 to render both to a *.m2ts file, viewed both and they looked very much alike.  I also made a second render and put the two videos side by side.  I use a 120Hz latest generation 55" Samsung 1080p monitor for viewing.

Am I doing something wrong?

"You have to learn about video formats.

H.264 is a standard covering lots of options. Canon is using just one subset of those options.
Trying to understand what's under the hood may try to blow your mind.

There are different frame types (I-frames, B-frames), different chroma subsampling options and more."

Thanks Walter..... see below after another test video (please be patient - I'm still learning!)

When I shoot in H.264 (X2.5)  the file is copied from the EOS M as a *.MOV file.  If I now need to render it I use Adobe Premiere (or Vegas 12 Pro).  Here is my problem:  The original *.MOV file is for example 450Mb in size.  If I use Adobe Premiere and render it as "loss less" I get a very large *.AVI file of about 8Gb!  If I render, using H.246 the original file is shrunk from the mentioned 450Mb to 220Mb - indicating more compression...  Is this right?  Am I doing something wrong?  How do I get the best "true" copy of the original file I used after rendering?  Am I using the wrong rendering software?

Please help! 

In my playing around with ML (and I'm excited!!) I found that my EOS M suddenly did not want to display the ML menus any more.  When booted in M (manual) photo mode it used to display the ML menus when the screen is touched with two fingers.  This has stopped for no reason at all - it just displays the "Welcome" screen ending with "Enjoy"  So I could not change settings etc.  I removed ML, restored the OEM EOS M 2.02, then camera formatted the SD card and re-installed ML.

Same response - only got the "Welcome" screen but no ML menu!!!  Today after trying again, my hand slipped and I touched the SET dail's outer ring on the right side....  and MAGIC!  There my EOS M came alive with the ML menus!  I'm back in business!

I do not know if I posted in the right place or if this is even helpful to the forum members - it worked for me!

Regards.

In my playing around with ML (and I'm excited!!) I found that my EOS M suddenly did not want to display the ML menus any more.  When booted in M (manual) photo mode it used to display the ML menus when the screen is touched with two fingers.  This has stopped for no reason at all - it just displays the "Welcome" screen ending with "Enjoy"  So I could not change settings etc.  I removed ML, restored the OEM EOS M 2.02, then camera formatted the SD card and re-installed ML.

Same response - only got the "Welcome" screen but no ML menu!!!  Today after trying again, my hand slipped and I touched the SET dail's outer ring on the right side....  and MAGIC!  There my EOS M came alive with the ML menus!  I'm back in business!

I do not know if I posted in the right place or if this is even helpful to the forum members - it worked for me!

Regards.

After a long struggle and using a second EOS M's card, it booted.  I installed the OEM Canon 2.02 and it seems OK.  I'll try ML again and see what happens.

As I understood, ML lives in the SD card and not in the camera?  I saw something very strange while trying my EOS M to boot up.  After struggling for long and using a second M's card, I could get the EOS to boot.  I then did a FULL FORMAT on the card using the EOS.  It indicated FORMATTED OK etc. but when I checked on the PC via card reader, the complete ML was still there??  Could it be that the formatting malfunctioned or was it disabled by ML?

I then booted the EOS without a card and it came up with ML still in the camera...  Is this right?

I'm new here too - so I'm guessing:  It seems that either your mem card is not recording fast enough or you bumped up the bit rate too high?  I got the same results and took the bit rate down - it now seems better....

Hope this finds you well.

I installed the Nightly 2014-06-09 on my EOS M.  It stated up and I played with ML and found it great!  After a day or so the menu (when display is touched with two fingers in M mode) changed from being "large" letters to a menu now only appearing to be very small letters.  Yesterday, the ML menu just did not come up again - it just displayed the usual notice ending with "Enjoy" but no menu to make changes etc.

I downloaded the nightly 2014-06-11 and started the complete process over.  The EOS M now does not want to boot up.  Only the start up flickering green light keeps on flickering...  Any suggestions?

Regards & thanks

Wynand