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Raw Video / Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III

« on: October 16, 2013, 04:43:43 AM »

5D3 October 6th build.

Where should we look for new 5d3 builds ?

thanks

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Raw Video / Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III

« on: September 12, 2013, 10:27:04 PM »

Load up file_man module (File Manager).  This is a very handy module to preview, delete, copy, and move files. 
Once it is loaded you can find it in the Debug Menu

Amazing , thanks !

will give this a try

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: September 12, 2013, 10:53:02 AM »

is there a way to delete the RAW files from within the camera or at least cancel/delete the current recording ? This would be really useful

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Raw Video / Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III

« on: September 12, 2013, 07:01:06 AM »

is there a way to delete the RAW files from within the camera or at least cancel/delete the current recording ? This would be really useful

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: September 04, 2013, 07:05:34 PM »

On 5D3 if you enable:
Preview: Hacked
Memory hack: ON
Small hack: ON

I get 126 frames on 5D3 on Lexar 1000X

On 7D I only get 95-110 on same card

Awesome , will test that out !

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Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: Preventing Color/Luma Shifting When Processing DNGs in Adobe Camera RAW

« on: September 04, 2013, 07:03:34 PM »

I tried the 2010 with ACR8.2RC and flicker is still there. 

would you mind sharing a short sequence (4-5 DNG frames) where you have flickering so we can do some testing, people seem to get different results, i got rid of flickering on all my shots yesterday

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Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: Preventing Color/Luma Shifting When Processing DNGs in Adobe Camera RAW

« on: September 04, 2013, 12:27:53 PM »

Of course, ACR is the same in After Effects )

awesome thanks

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Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: Preventing Color/Luma Shifting When Processing DNGs in Adobe Camera RAW

« on: September 04, 2013, 11:44:35 AM »

If I switch to 2010 process, there isn't flickering for me!

Interesting , but i open my DNGs in after effects with ACR , is ther ea way to change to 2010 there ?

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Raw Video Postprocessing / Re: Preventing Color/Luma Shifting When Processing DNGs in Adobe Camera RAW

« on: September 04, 2013, 10:14:54 AM »

I was doing some test and on one shot i was getting really bad flickering in the sky , so after some messing around in ACR 8.1 i found out that the only setting that was causing it was contrast , pushed highlights and shadows to the max , no flicker , put everything back to default with contrast to -20% , lots of flickering

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: September 04, 2013, 09:15:39 AM »

I decided to pull the trigger on the Mk3 and was really surprised to only get 51 frames in crop 2560x1164 (without FPS override) , the 7D can get almost double that in 2512x1200 , (buffer size ?)

Fortunately the continuous 1080p with no aliasing and moire in non crop is just amazing , i just expected it to perform decently in crop at higher resolutions

Highest i could do continuous was 2048x1152 24p in crop with FPS override (94.5 MB/s)

By the way has 1% received his 7D ?

Best

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 29, 2013, 09:02:21 PM »

Cool video, raw is amazing

kh3naz, really nice composition and color there. Looks excellent

Much appreciated , not much interesting to see from my balcony , however 2.5k RAW makes anything pleasant to watch

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 29, 2013, 08:24:37 PM »

Very nice... what resolution spec and aspect ratio and fps did you use? crop mode? did you use any moire filter? love those bricks...

I'm glad you liked , all crop mode , some shots with burst mode and some with the newest build with the raw module , all in 2520\2512 x 1200 , i did some really zoomed in handheld shots with my IS lens to see what it would look like

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 29, 2013, 07:58:52 PM »

New test , watch in "Original" quality if possible

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 29, 2013, 06:01:45 AM »

At what max resolution and framerate can the 5D MK3 record continuous both in crop and noncrop ?

anyone ?

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 27, 2013, 05:50:27 PM »

How does the dynamic range in raw mode compare to h.264?

no tests charts here but this will give you an idea

H264 Cinestyle (flat)


H264 Cinestyle (S-Curve)


RAW

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 26, 2013, 10:09:14 PM »

without FPS override the default fps for 5X zoom mode is 29.97 = less recording time
in normal live view fps is 24 = continuos recording time on 1000x cards
Fps override it's not yet implemented

You are right i forgot about the different framerates , this makes sense

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 26, 2013, 09:36:20 PM »

Thanks for your quick reply kh3naz, 2.5k is beautiful indeed and I have run my own tests with it last weekend with beautiful results also but its not very useful in a real filming situation where you need to record continuously least I could not get more than a few seconds of footage.

I have yet to test the latest build in crop mode so maybe I'm missing something, does it allow us to record more than a few seconds now?

If not for my purposes I am limited to using the camera in non cropped mode which still has issues and is why I'm looking for a solution.

I am no Magic Lantern geek so i can't really answer you , i didn't really get answers to my own questions but i think RAW in non crop has reached its limit with 1728 x 972 continuous , the only solution for moire/aliasing is the VAF filter as far as i know

In crop mode the image is just perfect , but i can only record ~400 frames in 1728 x 972 right now , i don't understand why it isn't continuous as in non crop , continuous 1080p in crop would be amazing , let's hope for the best

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 26, 2013, 08:59:04 PM »

First I just want to say fantastic work, I am still in disbelief that the 7D is recording raw after all the issues with the Dual Processors.
I spent the weekend playing with raw and now with the extra res and fixed live view I want to take time off work to just play more.

I have noticed that Aliasing/Moire is far more apparent with Raw, can anyone who has it tell me how well the VAF-7D Moire / Aliasing Filter works when using the latest build?
Is this something that the camera hardware is causing or could a lot of it be removed with future tweaks to Magic Lantern?
Moire and Aliasing has been driving me nuts and is pretty much the only thing making this camera next to perfect for me but I don't want to drop 300 dollars until I know it has a significant difference when shooting raw.

Once again thank you so much for keeping at the development of the 7D 

Aliasing/Moire is caused by line skipping , the camera  uses the whole sensor (18mp) but skips lines to output a lower resolution , ML has a solution for that and it's called crop mode , it only uses a part of the sensor without having to skip lines

This is from what i understand

Take a look at the test footage i have uploaded a while ago with lots of bricks and tiles shots , see if you can spot any moire/aliasing

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 26, 2013, 08:36:51 PM »

Yes I am shooting 1728 x 972 raw grading it with adobe camera raw and exporting it with AE CC with prores 4444 and upscaling it in premiere CC and exporting in h.264. Are my codecs right?

your workflow is fine , you could export uncompressed instead of prores if you got the space , if your final output in h264 does not look as good as what it should raise the bitrate a bit

but don't expect 1728 x 972 in non crop to look as good as some of the footage you might have seen

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 26, 2013, 08:17:55 PM »

Hi everyone, I'm using and trying all the modules you guys do and I am flattered, great job to ML and you guys. I Convert the files using RAWMagic and importing in AE CC and grading with Camera raw exporting using prores 4444 and editing in premiere CC upscaling to 1080p then exporting .h264.

So my question would be am I doing something wrong cuz I'm happy with the footage but not that much compared to some videos I see online.

Your workflow sounds good , what videos are you referring to , some of them are shot in burst mode with no line skipping in 2.5k , 1728 x 972 with the RAW module is much better than the original 1080p H264 , but nowhere near as good as 2.5k in crop !

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 26, 2013, 07:29:11 PM »

i was wondering why i can get 1728 x 972 continuous , but not in crop mode , not even close (~400 frames) , is recording in crop with no line skipping more demanding for some reason ?

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 26, 2013, 11:32:21 AM »

Cheers, that's the max resolution for the Canon 7D.

Higher resolutions in crop mode with hardware modification would be interesting in the near future.

I'm a little bit confused  , 1728 x 972 really is the limit in non crop with RAW ? is this a hardware limitation on the 7D ?

What about in crop mode , now that we can record 1080p and 2.5k etc , will it be possible to improve the duration or has the 7D reached it's limit with the write speed ?

 

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 26, 2013, 09:51:11 AM »

you can disable 10x magnify in ml menu.

Theres no10x crop only 3x crop by using 5x magnify .

Thanks for the tip !

yes i should have said 10x magnify instead of crop

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 26, 2013, 09:19:48 AM »

Holy cow you guys are amazing , did a quick test , continuous 1728-972 with working live view on my 1000x card

how are you guys doing 1080p it won't let me select it ?

there are no words to describe how excited i am !

EDIT : just realized other resolution are available in crop

1920-1080 = 223 frames

liveview still freezes in 10x crop

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Tragic Lantern / Re: 7D Raw Thread

« on: August 25, 2013, 11:22:53 PM »

Magic 7D we are extremely lucky to have your contribution , please let us know how we can contribute for the shipping (paypal?) , i don't know if anybody else agrees on paying a bit more for express shippping , i don't mind