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#1
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
July 10, 2013, 06:09:19 AM
There is a 600d_102.sym file located in the modules folder of the latest build. I just thought I'd ask around to see if anyone else had this problem and had a fix for it.  I only found one other post regarding this and it is still unanswered.  I'll just stick with what I know works for now lol. Thanks for the quick response.
#2
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
July 10, 2013, 05:07:27 AM
Forgive me for the stupid question but what am I replacing the symbol file with?  I tried replacing it with the Six Thirty version symbol file and I am now getting a memory full error.  Ive tried different versions of the symbol file from previous builds and no luck.
#3
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
July 09, 2013, 09:35:21 PM
The latest nightly build has raw modules in it.  When I try loading them I am getting this error:

tcc: error:undefined symbol 'edmac_copy_rectangle_finish ... [E] failed to link modules

has anyone else with a 600d come across this problem and does anyone know what the fix for it is?
#4
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
July 01, 2013, 07:04:25 AM
Just wanted to report that I have tried both of the new posted builds and am still getting pink frames. It does seem to be less but it also seemed to be almost every 1st frame was pink.  I tried in 640x480 & 1920x1080 Canon menu setting. The 640x480 didn't lag in the lcd which is how I usually can tell that there is going to be pink frames present, but they were still there.  I tried having the extra hacks on and off and same result.  I didn't use the kill live view hack because I need live view lol so I'm not sure what the results would be. I'm still a fan of the newsystem ( June 15th) build. Which is strange because it's the last build before the variable buffering was implemented correct? I have tried all variables that I know of on freshly formatted new 45mbps sandisk cards and for now am still going to stick with the earlier build.
#5
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
July 01, 2013, 01:20:44 AM
Yes the latest build has pink frames for me as well.  That's why I reverted back to the last build on bitbucket as it has been the most stable for me. I was just answering Wartburgs question as to a work around (which for me was reverting back to an earlier build).  I did not fare well with the latest build at all and I suspect a lot of other people w/ the 600d have went back to the build from the 15th by just looking at the number of downloads it has lol.  I did find the latest build to be faster and squeeze a little more umphh out of the 600d but at the expense of littered pink frames here and there. I think we pretty much hit the wall with this camera but who knows.  ML devs seem to be consistent about surprising us.
#6
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 30, 2013, 01:43:23 AM
I'm not getting any pink frames on the NewSystem build from the 15th on 960x544. This has been the most stable build for me. I do get pink frames and the lcd lags on the first recorded file but everything after that is a gravy train with biscuit wheels.
#7
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 26, 2013, 07:11:50 PM
thank you for the detailed breakdown it is exactly what I was looking for. I think I'll stick to H.264 unless something new gives in the way of RAW.  I really didn't know much about the GOP and slice control features.  I'm looking more into them now.  What build are you using?
#8
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 26, 2013, 07:35:50 AM
So now that this has been out and tested for a little while.  I'm wondering what peoples opinions are when it comes to H.264 vs the RAW on the t3i.  I am by no means a pro and pretty new to DSLR (been doing it for only a year) but it seems like the RAW does look a little more rich and we know that there is more dynamic range with it.  I'm obsessed with shooting it I guess because it's new and the whole thing is just fun testing a feature that was never intended by Canon.  With the RAW @ (940x544) lower reso vs. the H.264 at 1080p which picture do you guys consider to better when they are both correctly lighted and graded?  Is one better than the other or are there pros and cons of each one. I'm not meaning straight out of the camera but rather what the potential end results in post are compared to one another.  Is there a winner?
#9
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 24, 2013, 12:47:00 AM
Quote from: far.in.out on June 23, 2013, 02:41:04 PM
How do you get rid of the pinkies again?

My problem was fixed by just reformatting my card and that took care of them. I am only getting pink frames when I run a reso that is not one of the sweet spot resolutions.  If you change the setting in the Canon menu to the 640x480 that should eliminate most if not all of the magenta frames. It did for me.  I am getting continuous at 940x544 w/ no pink frames all the time since a few builds back.  With this new build I can go a reso or 2 higher and get a decent amount of frames with no magenta at the 640 setting and even sometimes the 1920x1080 Canon setting. It seems to be hit and miss.
#10
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 23, 2013, 03:26:23 AM
The latest RAW should be the one that 1% linked a page or so back in the thread due to not being able to upload it to bitbucket.
#11
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 22, 2013, 09:49:56 PM
Does anyone here have any experience with using the Ginger HDR plugin with After Effects or Premiere Pro?  The quality between the RAW imported directly into Adobe vs. the DNG imported in and rendered seems to be not as good as the DNG imported.  It just seems fuzzy, grainy  or whatever. It is pretty noticeable too.  It's a shame because it is so much easier of a workflow that way.  I'm hoping I am just doing something wrong. I have tried it with denoiser and without denoiser and it is still crappy compared to the rendered DNG method.
#12
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 21, 2013, 01:54:32 PM
 I got 800 frames on 1024x576 before it stopped and about 67 frames on 1280x720, so it did add a small pop to it.  The magenta frames are back for me though.  The Canon menu is set to 1920x1080 24p. I'm going to try some other variations but these are the first magenta frames I have seen in a while now =( .
#13
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 21, 2013, 07:38:28 AM
Are we about maxed out on the RAW abilities of the 600D?
#14
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 16, 2013, 12:18:53 AM
Make sure you place the Modules folder into the ML directory.
#15
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 08, 2013, 01:14:24 AM
*edit - I apologize, I found someone with the same issue on the second page of this thread. My bad for not reading through more thoroughly before posting.


I have a question a little off topic but still RAW related.  I have been following this forum from day one and trying to learn as much as possible about the RAW capability.  My question is related to a pixel that I have recently noticed in my videos that kind of stands out.  I had never noticed this before until last night after recording 4.5gb of continuous raw @ 960x544 on my 600d. The camera got very hot so I stopped it. I processed the video and noticed this small blue pixel standing out. I freaked out and thought that the camera getting hot may have had something to do with this.  So after doing a lot of side by side tests and reading up on hot vs dead pixels I have noticed that I can't see this pixel in regular recording H.264.  In RAW pictures I have taken I cannot see this pixel either.  I tried the body cap on and manual sensor cleaning option for a couple of minutes multiple times and the pixel is no longer blue but kind of transparent to darkish colored.  I can only see this pixel in RAW recorded video. My question is is this due to RAW being so detailed that it is picking this up possibly?  It bugs me nonetheless and not sure if I should get it serviced, which I've heard is expensive. Sorry for the wall of text, I can post pictures if anyone is interested in seeing.
#16
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 07, 2013, 02:50:51 AM
960x540
16:9
sound off
GD off
frame skipping off
framing Center
Preview Canon
Start delay 2 secs

ML settings are set for SRAW, everything and anything set to off.  I have tried different combos with no luck. The lag is like the picture jumps to catch up with itself.  Even on really slow pans this happens.  This wasn't an issue before these last four builds or so.  I will just start using the 640 mode in Canon menu.
#17
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 07, 2013, 02:13:55 AM
Im not sure if I'm doing something wrong but when RAW is enabled I am still getting a sort of lag on the viewfinder when panning. It just seems jumpy. When it is like this there are almost always magenta frames. I tried it having the Canon menu set to the 640x480 and it doesn't do this. Just when the Canon menu is set to 1080. I have everything turned off in ML.  It doesn't seem to happen much on a fresh formatted card, but it seems hit and miss. Is anyone else having this issue?  Also, is my understanding correct that there is no image difference between the having the setting on 1080 or 640 in the Canon menu?
#18
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 05, 2013, 08:51:06 AM
With this new build I am shooting continuous 960x544 with zero magenta frames. The videos even seem more smooth and look amazing after processing through AE.  Thanks for all the hard work you are putting in on all of this. I know there is the 21mb hardware limitations and all but things seem to be getting better with every build. 

*edit- just wanted to add that my speed stays steady between 21.5-21.8 on 960x544
#19
Tragic Lantern / Re: Uncompressed 600D Raw Video
June 03, 2013, 08:50:26 PM
Quote from: N/A on June 03, 2013, 07:11:22 PM
Shot my first music video with raw today  ;D

The shoot went amazingly smooth, nothing huge but there were lots of tight angles and low lighting shots. The build ran great, I got a few corrupt frames but they're almost always right at the beginning before the action starts.

Biggest concern is if the music will sync with the vids. Guess I'll find out soon.

Could you please post your exact settings that let you work continuously.  I have tried different variations and the pink frames seem hit and miss.  There have been times that I have been able to record continuously @ 960x544 on ocassion and get zero magenta frames and other times it happens one after another.

Another couple of questions I have are as follows:

Is there any degradation of image quality between the options in the Canon menu, 640x480 vs 1920x1080

Second question is, what would make the live view lag when panning. The image seems to lag or stutter when panning around, even at a really slow speed. This had never been an issue on previous builds and I just started noticing it after the latest build. The lag almost always indicates that there will be magenta frames.

The image also seems really grainy when it is finally rendered into video.

The settings I use most are 960x544 (Canon Menu set to 1920x1080)
-SRAW
-GD off
-FPS override off
-Video Hacks off
- freshly low level formatted with EXFAT Sandisk Extreme 45 /mbps
-current build of tragic on top of current Nightly.
-RAWNIZER used to retrieve DNGS
-DNG imported to AE AF and rendered at lossless

Any advice at all would be great. I have read this forum from back to front and still had these questions. I am aware that this is still in the very early stages. I'm just trying to figure out what everyone else that is getting semi stable and consistent video is using. Thanks in advance.