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Using Magic Lantern => Raw Video => Raw Video Postprocessing => Topic started by: baldand on December 09, 2013, 06:10:19 PM

Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 09, 2013, 06:10:19 PM
(https://bitbucket-assetroot.s3.amazonaws.com/c/photos/2013/Dec/13/mlrawviewer-logo-999853879-7_avatar.png)

MlRawViewer 1.3.3

(https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewerScreenshot.png)

MlRawViewer is a cross-platform viewer for raw video files produced by Magic Lantern.

It supports both the original RAW format, and the newer MLV (RAW v2.0) format in both single and multi-file versions.

It also supports sound playback from embedded MLV_SND audio, or external WAV files.

It also supports playback of directories containing sequences of "CinemaDNG" .DNG files, as produced by mlv_dump or raw2cdng.

It also supports 2 x 1D and 1 x 3D LUT for display and ProRes export.

Features/usage
Full Key Control List
Linux Installation & Usage

Any normal Linux distribution (32 or 64bit) should work, but only Ubuntu 12.04 64bit has been extensively tested. NVIDIA or AMD GPUs using properietary drivers should work best. You may be able to use Intel GPUS, but problems may increase the older the GPU.

You should get the source code either with git (see below) or from a snapshot: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/get/master.tar.bz2 (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/get/master.tar.bz2)

You should use python 2.7 (not python 3), and install pyOpenGL and numpy package. On Ubuntu/Debian do:


sudo apt-get install build-essential python-opengl python-numpy
python setup.py build_ext --inplace
chmod +x mlrawviewer.py
./mlrawviewer.py /path/to/file.MLV [/path/to/encodedfile.MOV]


Then the video should appear and playback immediately. See above for keys.

Mac OS X 10.7-10.9 Installation and Usage

A binary release or source build can be used. The binary release is known to work with 10.7.x, 10.8.x and 10.9.x. Source builds may work with earlier OS X releases.

NVIDIA and AMD GPUs will work best. Intel GPUs may work, but problems have been reported with e.g. HD3000.

Download the DMG from https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_3_3_mac.dmg (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_3_3_mac.dmg)

Click the DMG to mount it, and drag the icon to your Applications folder.

Drag an MLV or RAW or DNG file into the app, or open a file using the app.

Windows 7 Installation and Usage

A binary release or source build can be used. The binary release is known to work properly with Windows 7 (32bit or 64bit). It should also work with Window 8. Source builds may work with earlier Windows versions.

NVIDIA and AMD GPUs will work best. Intel GPUs may work, but problems have been seen with some older chips.

Download the zip from https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_3_3_win32.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_3_3_win32.zip)

Open the zip, and copy the mlrawviewer folder to somewhere in your machine. That folder contains mlrawviewer.exe, which is the program to run.

Drag an MLV or RAW file into the mlrawviewer.exe app icon (or a shortcut), or set up a file association so it opens when you double click a video file. Alternatively run the app and select a file from the file dialog.

A log file (mlrawviewer.log) is generated in the USER\.mlrawviewer directory when the program is run. In case of problems, please check and share the log to help the developers identify the causes.

Implementation details

The program is written in python, and makes use of OpenGL for image processing in order to be able to display videos at their intended frame rate. This also depends on you having good file read speed in your computer.

Almost everything (apart from bitunpacking and CPU demosaicing) is written in python, so it is quite easy to install, modify and extend in case you are familiar with that language.

The license for the program source code excluding AMaZE is BSD-style.
The license for the AMaZE demosaicer (amaze_demosaic_RT.c) is GPLv3
The license for ffmpeg is GPLv3.
Hence, binary releases of MlRawViewer must be GPLv3.

Testing, feedback and code contributions are welcome.

Home page: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer)
Git repo: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer.git (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer.git)
Bug tracker: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues)
IRC: Freenode:#mlrawviewer
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 10, 2013, 12:39:04 AM
Did you make that program baldand (haven't it tested yet).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 10, 2013, 10:31:00 PM
Quote from: ItsMeLenny on December 10, 2013, 12:39:04 AM
Did you make that program baldand (haven't it tested yet).

Yes, I did.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: g3gg0 on December 11, 2013, 12:00:27 AM
cool :)
couldnt try because i couldnt set it up on my win7 system.
i must admit, i have no experience with python in general and didnt want to search too much :)



D:\Users\g3gg0>"c:\Program Files (x86)\Python\python.exe" d:\Users\g3gg0\Desktop\y\setup.py build
running build
running build_ext
building 'bitunpack' extension
error: Unable to find vcvarsall.bat

D:\Users\g3gg0>"c:\Program Files (x86)\Python\python.exe" d:\Users\g3gg0\Desktop\y\mlrawviewer.py
  File "d:\Users\g3gg0\Desktop\y\mlrawviewer.py", line 32
    except Exception,err:
                    ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 11, 2013, 10:46:30 PM
I'm guessing you tried to run it with a Python 3.x runtime (which doens't support that Exception syntax)?

If so, try a Python 2.x runtime, like 2.7.6 from http://www.python.org/getit/

You may still have compiler or module troubles. When I tested it on Windows, I actually used the WinPython distribution, which includes all needed external modules, and also mingw for compiling the bitunpack module. See the end of my blog post for pointers: http://thndl.com/?20  (http://thndl.com/?20)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 12, 2013, 03:52:14 AM
for me I got;

cosmo@cosmo:~/Downloads/mlrawviewer-1-0-0$ ./mlrawviewer.py ~/Videos/M12-1345.MLV
Falling back to Numpy for bit unpacking operations.
Consider compiling bitunpack module for faster conversion.
Opening MLV file /home/cosmo/Videos/M12-1345.MLV
Could not open file /home/cosmo/Videos/M12-1345.MLV. Error:1280922707


and with the bitunpack.so

cosmo@cosmo:~/Downloads/mlrawviewer-1-0-0$ ./mlrawviewer.py ~/Videos/M12-1345.MLV
Opening MLV file /home/cosmo/Videos/M12-1345.MLV
Could not open file /home/cosmo/Videos/M12-1345.MLV. Error:1280922707
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 12, 2013, 09:42:11 AM
Quote from: ItsMeLenny on December 12, 2013, 03:52:14 AM
for me I got;

cosmo@cosmo:~/Downloads/mlrawviewer-1-0-0$ ./mlrawviewer.py ~/Videos/M12-1345.MLV
Falling back to Numpy for bit unpacking operations.
Consider compiling bitunpack module for faster conversion.
Opening MLV file /home/cosmo/Videos/M12-1345.MLV
Could not open file /home/cosmo/Videos/M12-1345.MLV. Error:1280922707


and with the bitunpack.so

cosmo@cosmo:~/Downloads/mlrawviewer-1-0-0$ ./mlrawviewer.py ~/Videos/M12-1345.MLV
Opening MLV file /home/cosmo/Videos/M12-1345.MLV
Could not open file /home/cosmo/Videos/M12-1345.MLV. Error:1280922707


That was due to an unrecognised block type in the MLV file.

Now I got round to putting the source code to bitbucket, and fixing that bug. If you have a chance to pull a new version from there, it might work for you now.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer




Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 12, 2013, 10:13:22 AM
It works!! And was very smooth.

I think you'd know these facts already;
(but also just in case other people who haven't tested the program and want to know a little more);

I shot: 640x320 (2:1) @ 25fps
played back: 960x540 (16:9) @ ~28fps


which I just noticed it detects:
Using Bilinear demosaic algorithm
Width: 640 Height: 320 Frames: 715


also, It's very easy to edit the python source code to change white balance (by using RGB multipliers) <-- for anybody wondering
and same with resolution


one note baldand, I think the brightness may be wrong, it at 50 blows things out, haven't done extensive testing, but that may be due to a logarithmic vs linear scale or something, maybe it should be more something like 33.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 12, 2013, 11:53:27 AM
Bug:
When using nearest to de-mosaic instead of bi-linear, everything comes out blue


Found the solution:
You didnt "-black" on the other colours.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 12, 2013, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: ItsMeLenny on December 12, 2013, 11:53:27 AM
Bug:
When using nearest to de-mosaic instead of bi-linear, everything comes out blue


Found the solution:
You didnt "-black" on the other colours.

Thanks! I pushed the fix for this now.

I'm using a simple Reinhard global tone map function (x/(x+1)) for the display, so the brightness value needed depends very much on the content. At the moment I tend to just go in and modify the value manually for each clip I view.

A step up from that would be to make it a command line parameter, and a step up from that would be to let you change it while viewing the clip, and a step up from that would be to measure a histogram of the data and calculate a suitable value along with auto colour balance and the rest. All possible, but needs a bit more development.

Contributions/pull requests most welcome :-)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 12, 2013, 01:40:03 PM
Yeah, a gui would be great, I'm really impressed by this tool.
And then the step up after that would be output or piping to avconv/ffmpeg maybe.

I'm not sure if I exposed my test I did properly so I will have to try again.
At the same time, I'm not sure if your tool does work entirely right with the brightness and colour multipliers,
not that it matters because it is a viewer and only newly released.
But in the future it may have to be altered.

But yes, I'm very impressed.
I wonder if a gui could be done with wxpython, as I've programmed with that before.

(I don't have a bitbucket (yet), only a github.)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: g3gg0 on December 12, 2013, 03:41:44 PM
@baldand:

do you pre-index the MLV blocks before processing?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 12, 2013, 04:11:09 PM
Quote from: g3gg0 on December 12, 2013, 03:41:44 PM
@baldand:

do you pre-index the MLV blocks before processing?

No. I tried that at first, but it was a bit painful to wait a few seconds each time while it indexed e.g. a 20Gb set of files.

Now it builds an internal temporary index as it goes, and also tries to preload the next frame while the current one is rendered. I have a slighty better version not yet pushed which can do more look-ahead.

Of course it would be good if it would generate and persist an IDX file at the same time.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: g3gg0 on December 12, 2013, 05:27:59 PM
it doesnt matter how you pre-index - if using mlv_dump or internally.
just wanted to make sure you do it at all :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 13, 2013, 09:27:47 PM
(moved to top post)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: a1ex on December 13, 2013, 10:10:44 PM

alex@thinkpad:~/src/mlrawviewer$ python mlrawviewer.py ./M08-1336.RAW
MlRawViewer v1.0.1
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013
Falling back to Numpy for bit unpacking operations.
Consider compiling bitunpack module for faster conversion.
Opening MLRAW file ./M08-1336.RAW
Width: 1920 Height: 1080 Frames: 60
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/alex/src/mlrawviewer/GLCompute.py", line 223, in __draw
    self.onDraw(w,h)
  File "mlrawviewer.py", line 186, in onDraw
    self.init()
  File "mlrawviewer.py", line 178, in init
    self.demosaic = DemosaicScene(self._raw,size=(self._raw.width(),self._raw.height()))
  File "mlrawviewer.py", line 93, in __init__
    self.rawUploadTex = GLCompute.Texture((self.raw.width(),self.raw.height()),rgbadata=frame0.rawimage,hasalpha=False,mono=True,sixteen=True)
  File "/home/alex/src/mlrawviewer/GLCompute.py", line 85, in __init__
    glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D,0,GL_R32F,self.width,self.height,0,GL_RED,GL_UNSIGNED_SHORT,rgbadata)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/PyOpenGL-3.0.2-py2.6.egg/OpenGL/latebind.py", line 45, in __call__
    return self._finalCall( *args, **named )
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/PyOpenGL-3.0.2-py2.6.egg/OpenGL/wrapper.py", line 792, in wrapperCall
    raise err
GLError: GLError(
err = 1281,
description = 'invalid value',
baseOperation = glTexImage2D,
pyArgs = (
GL_TEXTURE_2D,
0,
GL_R32F,
1920,
1080,
0,
GL_RED,
GL_UNSIGNED_SHORT,
array([[16382, 16382, 16382, ..., 163...,
),
cArgs = (
GL_TEXTURE_2D,
0,
GL_R32F,
1920,
1080,
0,
GL_RED,
GL_UNSIGNED_SHORT,
array([[16382, 16382, 16382, ..., 163...,
),
cArguments = (
GL_TEXTURE_2D,
0,
GL_R32F,
1920,
1080,
0,
GL_RED,
GL_UNSIGNED_SHORT,
array([[16382, 16382, 16382, ..., 163...,
)
)


Python 2.6.5, PyOpenGL 3.0.2.

Tried to print the arguments before the call to glTexImage2D:

            print self.width, self.height
            print rgbadata
            print glGetIntegerv(GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE)
=>

1920 1080
[[16382 16382 16382 ..., 16382 16382 16382]
[16382 16382 16382 ..., 16382 16382 16382]
[16382 16382 16382 ..., 16382 16382 16382]
...,
[ 9928  6171 11226 ...,  6250 11173  6021]
[10345  6163 10482 ...,  5800 10179  6075]
[10423  5907  9725 ...,  5539 10362  5808]]
4096


Also tried smaller textures (64x64) and 8-bit, didn't help.

NeHe lesson 6 (texture mapping) runs fine (it has a call to glTexImage2D and seems to work).

Will keep looking, but maybe you have any suggestions on what to try?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 13, 2013, 10:44:39 PM
What kind of platform are you running on, e.g.

Native Linux or under a VM? (VirtualBox/VMWare often have more limited OpenGL implementations)

What kind of graphics card/drivers - Intel, AMD, NVIDIA?

For reference, I've used it on (low end integrated) AMD & (mid range) NVIDIA, but not Intel (though I think it should generally work also there).

My suspicion here is the GL_R32F as the internal format. Your environment might not support floating point textures. One thing to try might be to change that to R16F or just R16 and see if that helps.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 13, 2013, 10:56:00 PM
I just pushed a change for that line to use R16 internally, which should be ok for the raw bayer data.
Would be good to know if your env now fails on the next texture create which is RGB float.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: a1ex on December 14, 2013, 06:26:07 AM
It's Ubuntu Lucid, native, and the card is Intel 4500MHD integrated. Not exactly the best choice for OpenGL.

Got it somewhat working with this change:

diff --git a/GLCompute.py b/GLCompute.py
index 161cc79..73575f6 100755
--- a/GLCompute.py
+++ b/GLCompute.py
@@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ class Texture:
         elif not hasalpha and not mono and fp:
             glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D,0,GL_RGB32F,self.width,self.height,0,GL_RGB,GL_FLOAT,None)
         elif mono and not sixteen:
-            glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D,0,GL_RED,self.width,self.height,0,GL_RED,GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE,rgbadata)
+            glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D,0,GL_RGB,self.width,self.height,0,GL_RED,GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE,rgbadata)
         elif mono and sixteen:
             glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D,0,GL_R16,self.width,self.height,0,GL_RED,GL_UNSIGNED_SHORT,rgbadata)
         elif not mono and sixteen:
diff --git a/ShaderText.py b/ShaderText.py
index dd82c4b..dbcc56e 100644
--- a/ShaderText.py
+++ b/ShaderText.py
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ attribute vec4 axyuv;
attribute vec4 argba;
attribute vec4 actmg;
varying vec2 texcoord;
-uniform mat4x4 matrix;
+uniform mat4 matrix;
uniform float opacity;
uniform vec4 urgba;
varying vec4 rgba;
diff --git a/mlrawviewer.py b/mlrawviewer.py
index d7609b1..d3082b4 100755
--- a/mlrawviewer.py
+++ b/mlrawviewer.py
@@ -90,8 +90,8 @@ class DemosaicScene(GLCompute.Scene):
         frame0.convert()
         self.raw.preloadFrame(f)
         print "Width:",self.raw.width(),"Height:",self.raw.height(),"Frames:",self.raw.frames()
-        self.rawUploadTex = GLCompute.Texture((self.raw.width(),self.raw.height()),rgbadata=frame0.rawimage,hasalpha=False,mono=True,sixteen=True)
-        self.rgbImage = GLCompute.Texture((self.raw.width(),self.raw.height()),None,hasalpha=False,mono=False,sixteen=True,fp=True)
+        self.rawUploadTex = GLCompute.Texture((self.raw.width(),self.raw.height()),rgbadata=frame0.rawimage,hasalpha=False,mono=True,sixteen=False)
+        self.rgbImage = GLCompute.Texture((self.raw.width(),self.raw.height()),None,hasalpha=False,mono=False,sixteen=False,fp=False)
         demosaicer = Demosaicer(raw,self.rawUploadTex)
         print "Using",demosaicer.shader.demosaic_type,"demosaic algorithm"
         self.drawables.append(demosaicer)


Of course, the pixel format is incorrect, but hey, it's playing!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: a1ex on December 14, 2013, 06:40:35 AM
I've split the topic; feel free to add a link to it in the old one, and edit the first post to keep things updated.

Small remark: I've noticed you are updating the black level on the fly, and you are computing it as MIN(all_pixels). This is incorrect for the following reasons:

- some cameras have bad pixels with raw value = 0 (okay, you can filter these out easily)
- if the image is exposed to the right, you will end up with a black value much higher than normal, and this will cause strong green cast in shadows
- if the image is exposed to the left, you will read something way below the real black level (you have a Gaussian noise, stdev something around 15, so you can end up easily 100 units below the correct value => pink cast; also, the minimum is not statistically robust so the level will change while playing).

So, I strongly recommend you to use the "EXIF" black level. If that one is wrong, it's a bug in ML, and must be reported and fixed there, not worked around in post software.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 14, 2013, 06:54:00 AM
Quote from: a1ex on December 14, 2013, 06:40:35 AM
I've split the topic; feel free to add a link to it in the old one, and edit the first post to keep things updated.

Small remark: I've noticed you are updating the black level on the fly, and you are computing it as MIN(all_pixels). This is incorrect for the following reasons:

- some cameras have bad pixels with raw value = 0 (okay, you can filter these out easily)
- if the image is exposed to the right, you will end up with a black value much higher than normal, and this will cause strong green cast in shadows
- if the image is exposed to the left, you will read something way below the real black level (you have a Gaussian noise, stdev something around 15, so you can end up easily 100 units below the correct value => pink cast; also, the minimum is not statistically robust so the level will change while playing).

So, I strongly recommend you to use the "EXIF" black level. If that one is wrong, it's a bug in ML, and must be reported and fixed there, not worked around in post software.

I reported this as a bug already as one video I tried it blew into this light washed out purple.
I'd prefer it without the black level update. But the EXIF isn't a bad idea.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: a1ex on December 14, 2013, 07:34:33 AM
Fixed my video card issues and the black level problem.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/pull-request/4/small-fixes
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 14, 2013, 07:44:57 AM
Quote from: a1ex on December 14, 2013, 07:34:33 AM
Fixed my video card issues and the black level problem.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/pull-request/4/small-fixes

I'll leave it for baldand to merge to make sure he is happy.


(Also I just added different white balance values, changeable by using the numpad or number keys [0 1 2 3 4])
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 14, 2013, 12:31:21 PM
Thanks for all the great contributions so far. It's already working way better than just a few days ago.

Next up , I'm planning to integrate CPU-based AMaZE demosaicing (which is much slower than GPU demosaicing, but better looking) for using to export sections of a video through ffmpeg, e.g. to ProRes files.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 14, 2013, 12:35:04 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 14, 2013, 12:31:21 PM
Next up , I'm planning to integrate CPU-based AMaZE demosaicing (which is much slower than GPU demosaicing, but better looking) for using to export sections of a video through ffmpeg, e.g. to ProRes files.

Sweet!
On a similar note; would it be worth bicubic and/or synclancoz, rather than bilinear?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: a1ex on December 14, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
@baldand: you can take the AMaZE code from cr2hdr (it's already tweaked to compile as standalone C object).

If you make it export high-quality data (where I'm sure AMaZE is very hard to beat), I'll want my modified soft film curve from ufraw (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5197.msg91513#msg91513) :D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 14, 2013, 12:52:27 PM
Quote from: a1ex on December 14, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
I'll want my modified soft film curve from ufraw (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5197.msg91513#msg91513) :D

And I'll want a no curve :P But highlight clipping will be needed.


In fact; I like what your curve does, just viewing your examples. Canons picture styles do the opposite, which is what I don't like.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 14, 2013, 07:50:45 PM
Ok, AMaZE is in.

It's now used to display frames when paused, or during playback if explicitly turned on with the Q key.

I will try to add encoding output next (which will also use AMaZE).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: a1ex on December 14, 2013, 08:04:59 PM
Looks great, no artifacts at all! Only one little problem: the image is pitch black.

The progress bar does get slower, and CPU usage jumps to around 90%, so I guess it's trying to do something.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 14, 2013, 08:48:49 PM
I would take a wild guess that this is texture-upload related again.

The output from the CPU demosaicing is floating point, so we need to be able to upload in RGB float format to an RGB texture (instead of 16 bit uint as with bayer data).

Looking again at the patches you made, was the conclusion that your Intel GPU doesn't support floating point textures at all?


Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: a1ex on December 14, 2013, 08:53:58 PM
Yes, it seems so. I should probably rescale the data somehow, but with previous code I didn't have to do any conversion (it just worked).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 14, 2013, 08:55:35 PM
Ok, let me try and rework it to support this setup.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 14, 2013, 09:26:16 PM
I just pushed a change to remove the need for uploading float textures in the CPU demosaicing case.

It means doing a little more work in the CPU-side, but should work now in more environments.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 15, 2013, 01:03:02 AM
Wow, the amaze works great, my videos are only small 640x320 and similar sizes, but I can really see the difference.

I am getting some artifacts though. Bright purple lines and similar in some places.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tin2tin on December 15, 2013, 01:47:16 AM
Would it be possible to use this to compile it for the various platforms?
http://www.pyinstaller.org/
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: g3gg0 on December 15, 2013, 01:54:19 AM
Quote from: tin2tin on December 15, 2013, 01:47:16 AM
Would it be possible to use this to compile it for the various platforms?
http://www.pyinstaller.org/

+1 from my side
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 15, 2013, 04:58:48 AM
Quote from: tin2tin on December 15, 2013, 01:47:16 AM
Would it be possible to use this to compile it for the various platforms?
http://www.pyinstaller.org/

I would think it would be. py2exe for windows, py2app for mac, and I think most linux users would just run it from the python files.

The best option would most probably be cx-freeze, for all platforms http://cx-freeze.sourceforge.net/


What am I saying >_<

It only runs on linux afaik.

Edit: Yeah, just tried windows, failed:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
C:\Documents and Settings\Cosmo\Desktop\mlrawviewer>python -B mlrawviewer.py "c:
\Documents and Settings\Cosmo\Desktop\M14-2120.MLV"
MlRawViewer v1.0.1
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013
Falling back to Numpy for bit unpacking operations.
Consider compiling bitunpack module for faster conversion and export.
Opening MLV file c:\Documents and Settings\Cosmo\Desktop\M14-2120.MLV
Black level: 2048
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "mlrawviewer.py", line 307, in <module>
    sys.exit(main())
  File "mlrawviewer.py", line 302, in main
    rmc = Viewer(r)
  File "mlrawviewer.py", line 182, in __init__
    super(Viewer,self).__init__(width=userWidth,height=int(userWidth*self.vidAsp
ect),**kwds)
  File "C:\Documents and Settings\Cosmo\Desktop\mlrawviewer\GLCompute.py", line
183, in __init__
    glutInit(sys.argv)
  File "C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\OpenGL\GLUT\special.py", line 324, in glut
Init
    _base_glutInit( ctypes.byref(count), holder )
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not callable
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 15, 2013, 09:12:57 AM
No, it does work on Windows. But getting it working needs a few steps.

First, I can't say anything about Windows 8 as I haven't used it at all. But I know that there have been problems with OpenGL based apps there. So Windows 8 might be out unless you know you have working OpenGL.

However, I just tested the latest code on an ACER Aspire One 522 with AMD C-50 & integrated Radeon 6250 with Win7 whatever version it came with - 32bit, limited to 2Gbytes of RAM(!??!)

I used WinPython 2.7.5.3 https://code.google.com/p/winpython/downloads/detail?name=WinPython-32bit-2.7.5.3.exe (https://code.google.com/p/winpython/downloads/detail?name=WinPython-32bit-2.7.5.3.exe)

I had to add the included mingw to the path, e.g.:

set PATH=C:\WinPython-32bit-2.7.5.3\tools\mingw32\bin;%PATH%

Then (from the mlrawviewer direcory) I built the bitunpack module:

\WinPython-32bit-2.7.5.3\python-2.7.5\python.exe setup.py build_ext -c mingw32 --inplace

Finally I ran it:

\WinPython-32bit-2.7.5.3\python-2.7.5\python.exe mlrawviewer.py \Users\andrew\Downloads\mlr\M15-1647.RAW

The video comes up and plays. I can navigate with cursor keys, change brightness, fullscreen with TAB.

But I also had some problems which would need investigating by someone -> it crashed whenever it tried to use AMaZE. Which means pausing, or Q button.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 15, 2013, 09:23:10 AM
ah. I was using win XP 32 bit for the record.
I don't know why it didn't work then.
I might investigate further, but considering my machine is linux.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: a1ex on December 15, 2013, 09:33:36 AM
I need one more little change:

diff --git a/GLCompute.py b/GLCompute.py
index 811afb7..4e6601a 100755
--- a/GLCompute.py
+++ b/GLCompute.py
@@ -86,7 +86,8 @@ class Texture:
             try: glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D,0,GL_R16,self.width,self.height,0,GL_RED,GL_UNSIGNED_SHORT,rgbadata)
             except GLError: glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D,0,GL_RGB16,self.width,self.height,0,GL_RED,GL_UNSIGNED_SHORT,rgbadata)
         elif not mono and sixteen:
-            glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D,0,GL_RGB32F,self.width,self.height,0,GL_RGB,GL_UNSIGNED_SHORT,rgbadata)
+            try: glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D,0,GL_RGB32F,self.width,self.height,0,GL_RGB,GL_UNSIGNED_SHORT,rgbadata)
+            except GLError: glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D,0,GL_RGB16,self.width,self.height,0,GL_RGB,GL_UNSIGNED_SHORT,rgbadata)
         else:
             glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D,0,GL_RGB,self.width,self.height,0,GL_RGB,GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE,rgbadata)
         if mipmap:


Now it works; you can see it's changing the algorithm if you open a dual ISO movie :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 15, 2013, 10:02:32 AM
Ok, I applied the patch. Glad to hear it is working now.

(Proper Dual ISO playback support would be great, even if I would never be able to make use of it with my 7D... sob)

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tin2tin on December 15, 2013, 10:31:27 AM
I can test an exe on win 8 if you can provide one?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 15, 2013, 11:57:17 AM
Quote from: tin2tin on December 15, 2013, 10:31:27 AM
I can test an exe on win 8 if you can provide one?

Thanks. I will take closer look at pyinstaller soon for Win/Mac packaging. Of course it might be good if you or another Win8 user could try it first with https://code.google.com/p/winpython/ (https://code.google.com/p/winpython/) to see does it even work.

I just pushed a fix for the crash on Windows+mingw32 with CPU demosaicing. For me the current tip is now working fine on Win7.

I will try also with Mac tomorrow to see if there are any new problems there (it was working earlier).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 15, 2013, 12:11:15 PM
Mac  :P ::)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 15, 2013, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: Danne on December 15, 2013, 12:11:15 PM
Mac  :P ::)
Start coding then :P
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 15, 2013, 09:43:34 PM
I added encoding to ProRes using ffmpeg. It needs a newish versions of ffmpeg for that to work. Only tested on Linux so far.

To use it, optionally add an output name as a 2nd command line argument.
Then adjust the white balance and brightness, find the starting frame, and press "E".
To end encoding, press "E" again.
It will also stop automatically at the end of the file.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 16, 2013, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: baldand on December 15, 2013, 09:43:34 PM
I added encoding to ProRes using ffmpeg. It needs a newish versions of ffmpeg for that to work. Only tested on Linux so far.

Yeah "broken pipe" for me. Do note that I'm using avconv, which the ffmpeg command just references avconv.
Must need a newer ffmpeg for the codec, as I got; Unknown encoder 'prores_ks'
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 16, 2013, 07:23:02 AM
I pushed a small change now so it will use an ffmpeg in the same directory as the script in preference to one on the path.

I strongly recommend downloading a suitable static binary from one of the links on http://www.ffmpeg.org/download.html and putting it to the same directory as mlrawviewer.py

That's what I did in order to get a version which could encode 10bit 444 ProRes.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 16, 2013, 08:14:10 AM
Mac update: I just tested the latest version on Mac and it can be made to work with small changes.

I know these steps are not suitable for all Mac users, but maybe an installable package will come later as a result of this.

I used OSX Mavericks with the system python. Assuming you have git and the command line compiler....clone the source code.

Install pyOpenGL like this:

sudo easy_install pip && sudo pip install pyOpenGL

You should already have numpy installed (I did, and I hadn't installed it myself).

Then you need to edit setup.py to remove the 2 openmp references. Clang does not yet support openmp (maybe there is a way to use gcc instead and hence get openmp and faster CPU demosaicing - I'm not sure).

Then:

python setup.py build
ln -s build/lib.macosx-10.9-intel-2.7/bitunpack.so .


Download ffmpeg static binary from http://www.evermeet.cx/ffmpeg/ (http://www.evermeet.cx/ffmpeg/) and:

7z x ffmpeg-2.1.1.7z

(if you need 7z, use homebrew and "brew install p7zip")

Finally from the source dir:

python mlrawviewer.py /Volumes/RAWVIDEOS/M01-2345.MLV MyEncodedFilm.MOV

I was able to encode a ProRes MOV and play it back fine with Quicktime.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 16, 2013, 08:48:48 AM
Quote from: baldand on December 16, 2013, 07:23:02 AM
I pushed a small change now so it will use an ffmpeg in the same directory as the script in preference to one on the path.
That's a good idea. There are plenty of static daily builds around.

http://ffmpeg.gusari.org/static/
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 18, 2013, 02:26:41 PM
I had a go at making an installable version of the app for Mac.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1.0.1_alpha.dmg

This was made using pyinstaller, and it has been tested on a couple of machines running 10.9 (Mavericks).

Once it is installed to you Application directory, you should be able to click on a MLV or RAW file to open them with it. Alternatively, drag the raw file onto the App icon to open it.

It's mostly keyboard driven at the moment - keys are described here: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/overview

Addtionally: ESC exits the app.

There is no way to supply a file name for the ProRes encoding, so by default when you press E, it will encode to the same filename as the source with .MOV appended.

Please report crashes/problems/issues to https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/overview using the Issues button.

Questions/feature requests etc can be here.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 18, 2013, 03:15:33 PM
Fantastic work. Can watch rawfiles in realtime in high quality with my macbook pro. Amazing.
Had issue when hitting spacebar and wants to encode. I have created an issue report. Looks like this.
Big thanks for this!

(http://s23.postimg.org/d46l2lio7/Ska_rmavbild_2013_12_18_kl_15_26_22.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/d46l2lio7/)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 18, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
@Danne, thanks - can you post a bit more info the issue report if possible. See the responses there.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 18, 2013, 03:35:13 PM
Thanks! Posted additional info
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on December 18, 2013, 04:06:46 PM
Fantastic!!!
How to install the ffmpeg?Unzip and click on it?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 18, 2013, 04:10:41 PM
@baldand
Here,s a short clip I tried with if it will help on the issue?
http://sprend.com/uploadfinished.htm?TransactionKey=4355583:9fd364c90db4ee618d77bbd8ad4ec6c3
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on December 18, 2013, 04:16:33 PM
@baldand

Thank you for helping out Mac! My install crashes as soon as I drag a .raw file onto the app icon. Do I still need to install Python etc. before I install this app? I'm a little confused – sorry!

I'm on OSX 10.7.5

Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 18, 2013, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: ouuzi on December 18, 2013, 04:06:46 PM
Fantastic!!!
How to install the ffmpeg?Unzip and click on it?

The Mac install package includes ffmpeg.

For Windows or Linux you should download a version from http://ffmpeg.org/download.html

Quote from: timbytheriver on December 18, 2013, 04:16:33 PM
@baldand

Thank you for helping out Mac! My install crashes as soon as I drag a .raw file onto the app icon. Do I still need to install Python etc. before I install this app? I'm a little confused – sorry!

I'm on OSX 10.7.5

Thanks!

It should include everything needed - no need to install a python unless you are building it from source. I've only been able to test on 10.9/Mavericks. I really have no idea will this package work at all on an earlier OS X version. (Mavericks is a free upgrade, and you should be able to upgrade direct from 10.7.x)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 18, 2013, 04:57:24 PM
also tested the viewer with a clip from a 550D at work.(my 5d mark 3 is at home)
Seems the issue with strange frameissue/encoding is because of the framerate. 24fps is ok but 25fps causes the same issue as on my 5d mark 3.
This viewer/encoder is amazing
Thanks!
/D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on December 18, 2013, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 18, 2013, 04:26:35 PM
The Mac install package includes ffmpeg. ... It should include everything needed - no need to install a python unless you are building it from source.

Thanks for the clarification – I'll persevere! :)

@baldand – PS Should the 'Frameworks' folder inside the package be empty? Mine is! :o
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 18, 2013, 05:58:36 PM
Quote from: timbytheriver on December 18, 2013, 05:25:15 PM
Thanks for the clarification – I'll persevere! :)

@baldand – PS Should the 'Frameworks' folder inside the package be empty? Mine is! :o

Yes, frameworks folder should be empty.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on December 18, 2013, 06:13:12 PM
I have checked the exported .mov but it is 422 (HQ) Is this expected behaviour?
OSX 10.9
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 18, 2013, 06:24:07 PM
Quote from: ouuzi on December 18, 2013, 06:13:12 PM
I have checked the exported .mov but it is 422 (HQ) Is this expected behaviour?


I haven't checked that. On Linux, the same parameters produce 10bit 444. I'll take a look and see what's going on.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on December 18, 2013, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 18, 2013, 02:26:41 PM
I had a go at making an installable version of the app for Mac.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1.0.1_alpha.dmg

Thank you, this is awesome and definitely a step in the right direction.

.raw files play back smoother on my (aging) 2ghz MBP than .mlv files, is this expected behavior?

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on December 18, 2013, 07:23:06 PM
@Midphase Can you check the codec in the exported files please?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 18, 2013, 07:40:40 PM
Quote from: Midphase on December 18, 2013, 07:21:02 PM
Thank you, this is awesome and definitely a step in the right direction.

.raw files play back smoother on my (aging) 2ghz MBP than .mlv files, is this expected behavior?

This could just be the indexing. RAW files frames come in order. MLV frames can be spread out through the whole set, so they need indexing first - this can take a few seconds during which playback might be slower (if for example you have a HD rather than an SSD). But once indexed, it should play at the same speed as RAW. At the moment the indexes are not persisted, but that might come later as MLV has a format for external IDX files.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 18, 2013, 07:52:55 PM
Quote from: Danne on December 18, 2013, 04:57:24 PM
also tested the viewer with a clip from a 550D at work.(my 5d mark 3 is at home)
Seems the issue with strange frameissue/encoding is because of the framerate. 24fps is ok but 25fps causes the same issue as on my 5d mark 3.
This viewer/encoder is amazing
Thanks!
/D

I tried the sample RAW file you uploaded, and unfortunately that is playing back and encoding fine for me.

Would you be able to make similar examples at 24 & 25 fps that I could try to compare for a clue what the problem could be?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on December 18, 2013, 08:21:23 PM
Anyone on OSX 10.7.5 able to run this and help me get it working? It crashes for me...

It looks great though! (Thanks to @baldand)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 18, 2013, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: ouuzi on December 18, 2013, 06:13:12 PM
I have checked the exported .mov but it is 422 (HQ) Is this expected behaviour?
OSX 10.9

If I play back the encoded MOV files with ffplay, it's reported decoded as yuv444p10le.

If I change the ffmpeg parameters to use explicitly yuv422p10le, ffplay playback also reports yuv422p10le.

What tool are you using to check the encoding? I see that Resolve is claiming all the files are "ProRes 422 (HQ)" even when ffplay reports 444.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 18, 2013, 08:24:31 PM
THanks for looking into. Still at work but did a little more testing with a 550D. Seems both 24 and 25fps works with smaller sizes. Tried 640x360 I believe. Turns out the last test was done in 24fps and with smaller size that,s why it worked.

But, when playing recorded 1280x720 both 24 and 25fps fails and recreates the problem I had with the first 5d mark 3 file.
Here,s one of the failing 24fps examples
http://sprend.com/download.htm?C=2b1ff5b9b7484b2e9f18c83b04f9f72b

By the way. My encoded file shows ProRes422(HQ) I Checked info from file by rightclicking


Thanks!
/D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 18, 2013, 08:39:27 PM
Quote from: timbytheriver on December 18, 2013, 08:21:23 PM
Anyone on OSX 10.7.5 able to run this and help me get it working? It crashes for me...

It looks great though! (Thanks to @baldand)

Another option for you is to try to run the binary version from the command line. All you need to do it open a command prompt,
cd /Applications/mlrawviewer.app/Content/MacOS
./mlrawviewer /path/to/file.MLV

Then see what errors are printed to the command line.


Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 18, 2013, 08:43:10 PM
Quote from: Danne on December 18, 2013, 08:24:31 PM
But, when playing recorded 1280x720 both 24 and 25fps fails and recreates the problem I had with the first 5d mark 3 file.
Here,s one of the failing 24fps examples
http://sprend.com/download.htm?C=2b1ff5b9b7484b2e9f18c83b04f9f72b
/D

Hmmm... size related? Is there any possibility this is connected with GPU RAM?
Do you know what kind of GPU you have, and how much RAM it has?

Also, could you maybe try the same thing I just suggested to timbytheriver, and run the app from command line, to see if it reports any errors there.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on December 18, 2013, 08:44:15 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 18, 2013, 08:39:27 PM
try to run the binary version from the command line.

That's clever! Thanks. It crashes again, but terminal reports:

Segmentation fault: 11

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 18, 2013, 08:59:10 PM
Probably size.
I have an
Intel HD Graphics 3000 512 MB
I,ll try the command line prompt a little bit more, didn,t get it to work through in terminal though.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 18, 2013, 09:05:50 PM
I get this info from runnin the encoder.

itgusers-MacBook-241:ny itguser$ /Users/itguser/Desktop/ny/mlrawviewer.app
-bash: /Users/itguser/Desktop/ny/mlrawviewer.app: is a directory
itgusers-MacBook-241:ny itguser$ /Users/itguser/Desktop/ny/mlrawviewer.app/Contents/MacOS/mlrawviewer /Users/itguser/Desktop/ny/M18-0657.RAW
MlRawViewer v1.0.1
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013
Opening MLRAW file /Users/itguser/Desktop/ny/M18-0657.RAW
Black level: 2047
2013-12-18 21:29:19.236 mlrawviewer[11638:507] NSDocumentController Info.plist warning: The values of CFBundleTypeRole entries must be 'Editor', 'Viewer', 'None', or 'Shell'.
2013-12-18 21:29:19.237 mlrawviewer[11638:507] NSDocumentController Info.plist warning: The values of CFBundleTypeRole entries must be 'Editor', 'Viewer', 'None', or 'Shell'.
Width: 1280 Height: 720 Frames: 70
Using Bilinear demosaic algorithm
/var/folders/rt/c1mvkpt904q_fgq6fcn63btr0000gn/T/_MEITzLzOM/ffmpeg
Encoder args: ['/var/folders/rt/c1mvkpt904q_fgq6fcn63btr0000gn/T/_MEITzLzOM/ffmpeg', '-f', 'rawvideo', '-pix_fmt', 'rgb48', '-s', '1280x720', '-r', '25', '-i', '-', '-an', '-f', 'mov', '-vf', 'vflip', '-vcodec', 'prores_ks', '-profile:v', '3', '-r', '25', '/Users/itguser/Desktop/ny/M18-0657.RAW.MOV']
ffmpeg version 2.1.1-tessus Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the FFmpeg developers
  built on Nov 21 2013 13:33:40 with llvm-gcc 4.2.1 (LLVM build 2336.1.00)
  configuration: --prefix=/Users/tessus/data/ext/ffmpeg/sw --as=yasm --extra-version=tessus --disable-shared --enable-static --disable-ffplay --enable-gpl --enable-pthreads --enable-postproc --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid --enable-libspeex --enable-bzlib --enable-zlib --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libxavs --enable-version3 --enable-libvo-aacenc --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libvpx --enable-libgsm --enable-libopus --enable-fontconfig --enable-libfreetype --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-filters --enable-runtime-cpudetect
  libavutil      52. 48.101 / 52. 48.101
  libavcodec     55. 39.101 / 55. 39.101
  libavformat    55. 19.104 / 55. 19.104
  libavdevice    55.  5.100 / 55.  5.100
  libavfilter     3. 90.100 /  3. 90.100
  libswscale      2.  5.101 /  2.  5.101
  libswresample   0. 17.104 /  0. 17.104
  libpostproc    52.  3.100 / 52.  3.100
Input #0, rawvideo, from 'pipe:':
  Duration: N/A, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1105920 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Video: rawvideo (RGB0 / 0x30424752), rgb48le, 1280x720, 1105920 kb/s, 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc
Output #0, mov, to '/Users/itguser/Desktop/ny/M18-0657.RAW.MOV':
  Metadata:
    encoder         : Lavf55.19.104
    Stream #0:0: Video: prores (prores_ks) (apch / 0x68637061), yuv444p10le, 1280x720, q=2-31, 200 kb/s, 12800 tbn, 25 tbc
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (rawvideo -> prores_ks)
frame=    3 fps=0.0 q=0.0 size=     266kB time=00:00:00.12 bitrate=18131.8kbits/frame=    5 fps=3.6 q=0.0 size=     443kB time=00:00:00.20 bitrate=18130.8kbits/frame=    5 fps=2.3 q=0.0 size=     443kB time=-577014:-32:-22.-77 bitrate=N/A  frame=    5 fps=2.2 q=0.0 Lsize=     443kB time=00:00:00.20 bitrate=18158.4kbits/s   
video:443kB audio:0kB subtitle:0 global headers:0kB muxing overhead 0.160182%
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 18, 2013, 09:43:13 PM
@Danne thanks. Unfortunately no clues there. I suppose it's something in the data transfer from CPU to GPU. We've had trouble with Intel GPUs on other platforms due to texture formats and this could be another instance of that.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 18, 2013, 09:46:42 PM
Quote from: timbytheriver on December 18, 2013, 08:44:15 PM
That's clever! Thanks. It crashes again, but terminal reports:

Segmentation fault: 11
Thanks. Sadly not enough to pinpoint the problem.

At this point, if you are really keen to get it working and happen to have XCode with the command line compiler installed (or be willing to install that) I would suggest trying to follow the instructions from http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91924#msg91924 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91924#msg91924) to compile it from source.

I have had an earlier version working that way on 10.7.x before I upgraded to 10.9.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 18, 2013, 10:05:48 PM
Cool! Thanks anyway. Being able to view the files with this quality is really good. Eventually gonna upgrade to a machine with nvidia graphic card. Should work better than what I got now.
/D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on December 18, 2013, 10:21:09 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 18, 2013, 09:46:42 PM
I would suggest trying to follow the instructions from http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91924#msg91924 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91924#msg91924) to compile it from source.

I have had an earlier version working that way on 10.7.x before I upgraded to 10.9.

Thanks! I'll take a deep breath and have a go. :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 19, 2013, 11:36:53 AM
I also had a go at making a win32 exe version of MlRawViewer using pyinstaller.

You can get it from here https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer-1_0_2_alpha-win32.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer-1_0_2_alpha-win32.zip)

Unzip the package, look at the README for key controls, and run the exe with the name of an MLV and RAW file.

You should be able to manually set a file association in the system to launch it automatically for any RAW or MLV file.

It's a win32 binary. I've tested this only on one Windows 7 machine with low-end AMD GPU. I have no idea what other Windows environments it will work on (e.g. it may not work in Windows 8 or WinXP).

You may well have trouble if you only have an Intel GPU, especially if it is old or low-end.

Please post issues to bitbucket: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues

Features and questions here.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 19, 2013, 12:54:52 PM
And you don't need a bitbucket to be able to post an issue (afaik).

Also; pushed an aspect ratio fix earlier, so I hope people enjoy resizing their video screen :P :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: g3gg0 on December 19, 2013, 01:48:15 PM
win7 x64, nvidia card: works like a charm
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: RenatoPhoto on December 19, 2013, 03:07:24 PM
Excellent work!!

@ baldand:  Can you please update your opening post with the latest links and findings of you research?  By doing this the new comers do not have to read the entire post to get up-to-speed.

Thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on December 19, 2013, 03:21:13 PM
I have tested with quicktime and final cut pro,it show as a codec ProRes 442 (HQ).Do you have any other alternatives?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 19, 2013, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: RenatoPhoto on December 19, 2013, 03:07:24 PM
Excellent work!!

@ baldand:  Can you please update your opening post with the latest links and findings of you research?  By doing this the new comers do not have to read the entire post to get up-to-speed.

Thanks

Sure. I've been trying to update it already with features and links to the binaries. Maybe I will try to add also e.g. installation instructions for different platforms.

Quote from: ouuzi on December 19, 2013, 03:21:13 PM
I have tested with quicktime and final cut pro,it show as a codec ProRes 442 (HQ).Do you have any other alternatives?

Since we are using ffmpeg and feeding it rgb48 data, it should be possible to use any parameters that work for that normally. The current arguments are:

ffmpeg -f rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb48 -s <width>x<height> -r <fps> -i - -an -f mov -vf vflip -vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 3 -r <fps> <outfilename>

The key arguments to play with here are "-vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 3"

Later it would be good to expose those as a configurable parameter so that the container, codec and quality can be tweaked.

@ouzzi perhaps you could try playing with an ffmpeg binary from http://www.ffmpeg.org/download.html (http://www.ffmpeg.org/download.html) and see if you can find some better alternative arguments?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on December 20, 2013, 02:27:11 PM
I can not make it work.How do you play a file in ffplay?I am a noobie.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 20, 2013, 03:11:35 PM
If you have homebrew installed (http://brew.sh/), then you can get ffplay on Mac by doing, from a command line:

brew install ffmpeg --with-ffplay

Then launch ffplay with the name of the file e.g.

ffplay /Volumes/MyVideos/video.mov

It will print out details such as the codec and frame format.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dariSSight on December 20, 2013, 04:01:50 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 09, 2013, 06:10:19 PM
(https://bitbucket-assetroot.s3.amazonaws.com/c/photos/2013/Dec/13/mlrawviewer-logo-999853879-7_avatar.png)

MlRawViewer

MlRawViewer is a cross-platform viewer for raw video files produced by Magic Lantern.

It supports both the original RAW format, and the newer MLV (RAW v2.0) format in both single and multi-file versions.

Features/usage


  • RAW and MLV playback at up to 25FPS (if you have fast file read and modest GPU), single and multi-file
  • Progress bar and timestamp overlay
  • Pause playback using SPACE key
  • Step forward and backward through frames by one second (LEFT/RIGHT cursor keys) or one frame (,/. keys) while playing or paused
  • Brightness control while playing using UP/DOWN cursor keys
  • Fast GPU Bilinear demosaicing for playback
  • High-quality (but slow) CPU demosaicing (AMaZE) when paused or enabled (Q key)
  • Encoding frame sequences to ProRes using ffmpeg with E key
  • White Balance adjustments. Keys: 1=WhiteFluoro,2=Daylight,3=Cloudy,4=Tungsten,0=None
  • Exit viewer with ESC key

Linux Installation & Usage

Any normal Linux distribution (32 or 64bit) should work, but only Ubuntu 12.04 64bit has been extensively tested. NVIDIA or AMD GPUs using properietary drivers should work best. You may be able to use Intel GPUS, but problems may increase the older the GPU.

You should get the source code either with git (see below) or from a snapshot: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/get/master.tar.bz2 (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/get/master.tar.bz2)

You should use python 2.7 (not python 3), and install pyOpenGL and numpy package. On Ubuntu/Debian do:


sudo apt-get install build-essential python-opengl python-numpy
python setup.py build_ext --inplace
chmod +x mlrawviewer.py
./mlrawviewer.py /path/to/file.MLV [/path/to/encodedfile.MOV]


Then the video should appear and playback immediately. See above for keys.

Mac OS X 10.9 Installation and Usage

A binary release or source build can be used. The binary release is only known to work with 10.9.x. Source builds may work with earlier OS X releases.

NVIDIA and AMD GPUs will work best. Intel GPUs may work, but problems have been reported with e.g. HD3000.

Download the DMG from https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1.0.1_alpha.dmg (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1.0.1_alpha.dmg)

Click the DMG to mount it, and drag the icon to your Applications folder.

The application cannot be opened directly. Instead, drag an MLV or RAW file into the app, or open a file using the app.

Windows 7 Installation and Usage

A binary release or source build can be used. The binary release is only known to work properly with Windows 7 (32bit or 64bit). Source builds may work with earlier Windows versions.
It has been run on Windows 8 with some success - files can be viewed, but it crashes when SPACE or Q key are pressed (problem in CPU demosaicing).

NVIDIA and AMD GPUs will work best. Intel GPUs may work, but problems have been seen with some older chips.

Download the zip from https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer-1_0_2_alpha-win32.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer-1_0_2_alpha-win32.zip)

Open the zip, and copy mlrawviewer.exe to somewhere in your machine.

The application cannot be run directly. Instead, drag an MLV or RAW file into the app icon (or a shortcut), or set up a file association so it opens when you double click a video file.

Alternatively you can run it from a command line, which also allows you to specify the encoding file name.

A log file (mlrawviewer.log) is generated when/where the program is run. In case of problems, please check and share the log to help the developers identify the causes.

Implementation details

The program is written in python, and makes use of OpenGL for image processing in order to be able to display videos at their intended frame rate. This also depends on you having good file read speed in your computer.

Almost everything (apart from bitunpacking and CPU demosaicing) is written in python, so it is quite easy to install, modify and extend in case you are familiar with that language.

The license for the program source code excluding AMaZE is BSD-style.
The license for the AMaZE demosaicer (amaze_demosaic_RT.c) is GPLv3
The license for ffmpeg is GPLv3.
Hence, binary releases of MlRawViewer must be GPLv3.

Testing, feedback and code contributions are welcome.

Home page: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer
Git repo: https://[email protected]/baldand/mlrawviewer.git
Bug tracker: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues

I just join the MlRawViewer movement and I just want to say this app on my Mac is much need so thanks, I've been trying to view my video .RAW File but now I have a stable viewer.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on December 20, 2013, 04:11:11 PM
ffplay
  libavutil      52. 18.100 / 52. 18.100
  libavcodec     54. 92.100 / 54. 92.100
  libavformat    54. 63.104 / 54. 63.104
  libavdevice    54.  3.103 / 54.  3.103
  libavfilter     3. 42.103 /  3. 42.103
  libswscale      2.  2.100 /  2.  2.100
  libswresample   0. 17.102 /  0. 17.102
  libpostproc    52.  2.100 / 52.  2.100
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from '/Users/Work/Desktop/M20-0822.RAW.MOV':
  Metadata:
    major_brand     : qt 
    minor_version   : 512
    compatible_brands: qt 
    encoder         : Lavf55.19.104
  Duration: 00:00:07.28, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 147273 kb/s
    Stream #0:0(eng): Video: prores (apch / 0x68637061), yuv444p10le, 1920x818, 147266 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn, 12800 tbc


This is the printout.Prores 444 right?Why OSX is show the file as 422 any thoughts?Is it really usable as 444 now,or limited because of osx ?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: g3gg0 on December 20, 2013, 06:22:02 PM
i am really impressed, very good work :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bluebit25 on December 20, 2013, 06:52:35 PM
I can confirm that the MlRawViewer does not work in 10.8.5, I drag the MLV file onto the program and the program quits unexpectedly. Tried other ways to open it, nothing. Guess I'll have to install a separate linux system and dual boot it on my macbook pro, not going to be upgrading to Apple's stupid 10.9.X

LINUX ALL THE WAY
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 20, 2013, 07:01:30 PM
Quote from: bluebit25 on December 20, 2013, 06:52:35 PM
I can confirm that the MlRawViewer does not work in 10.8.5, I drag the MLV file onto the program and the program quits unexpectedly. Tried other ways to open it, nothing. Guess I'll have to install a separate linux system and dual boot it on my macbook pro, not going to be upgrading to Apple's stupid 10.9.X

LINUX ALL THE WAY

I think you probably would be able to get it working ok on 10.8.5 by building from source following the steps here (assuming you have XCode & the command line compiler):

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91924#msg91924 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91924#msg91924)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 20, 2013, 07:11:39 PM
Quote from: g3gg0 on December 20, 2013, 06:22:02 PM
i am really impressed, very good work :)

Thanks!

The colour processing is still very simple compared to the camera matrix, white balance and LUT support in MLVViewSharp. And it needs a working GUI - not just key controls. But hopefully some of those features can be added in time.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pavelpp on December 22, 2013, 09:39:29 AM
Crashes on OSX 10.7.5 . Will wait for a stable version, but I like the idea ))
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MvM on December 22, 2013, 11:48:51 AM
  :D :D :D :D Works perfectly here on win 7 64 when playing raw and mlv from my ssd ! Just a maybe : how about support for mlv.snd Sound ? Would  be the absolute point of maturing of MLV and Magiclantern RAW !

Thanks for reading and your amazing work !
Title: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: djfremen on December 22, 2013, 12:21:07 PM
This is really close to something great. Wish the "e" key command would launch a customized output setting where ProRes 4444 was selectable. Also the frame-rate is currently locked to 25 FPS.

Lastly, this is a pipe dream - once you hit "e" key ACR launches ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 22, 2013, 10:59:34 PM
Quote from: MvM on December 22, 2013, 11:48:51 AM
  :D :D :D :D Works perfectly here on win 7 64 when playing raw and mlv from my ssd ! Just a maybe : how about support for mlv.snd Sound ? Would  be the absolute point of maturing of MLV and Magiclantern RAW !

Thanks for reading and your amazing work !

I would like to add audio support, both for mlv_snd embedded in the mlv, and separate wav files made with an external recorder like a ZOOM H1 (which is what I use).

One problem with mlv_snd is I don't have any MLV examples with audio embedded to test with, because it's not yet working with 7D. If someone could put an example online I could work on that.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 23, 2013, 01:17:38 AM
Hi Baldand. Here,s a .MLV containing audio. Short and in 1280x720p since I,m on a mobilephone network.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4tCJMlOYfirOW95a3NHeHE5cGM/edit?usp=sharing
Thanks for efforts!
/D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nigel on December 23, 2013, 02:25:00 AM
Quote from: g3gg0 on December 19, 2013, 01:48:15 PM
win7 x64, nvidia card: works like a charm

Same here. Win 7 x64 pro and nvidia gpu.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 23, 2013, 09:23:36 AM
Quote from: Danne on December 23, 2013, 01:17:38 AM
Hi Baldand. Here,s a .MLV containing audio. Short and in 1280x720p since I,m on a mobilephone network.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4tCJMlOYfirOW95a3NHeHE5cGM/edit?usp=sharing
Thanks for efforts!
/D

Thanks. That's exactly what I needed.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ch_d on December 23, 2013, 01:59:20 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 20, 2013, 07:01:30 PM
I think you probably would be able to get it working ok on 10.8.5 by building from source following the steps here (assuming you have XCode & the command line compiler):

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91924#msg91924 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91924#msg91924)

any luck on 10.8? are there any compiled versions for 10.8?

on 10.9 it works like a charm, but my super-power-machine runs 10.8 and i don´t want to upgrade this machine (to many glitches on 10.9)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on December 23, 2013, 03:54:54 PM
Is it possible to apply a LUT during export?That would be awesome.
imagine the workflow.
Load the file with MlRawViewer>apply LUT>export as ProRes 444>Grade in your favourite application!!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 23, 2013, 05:22:16 PM
Quote from: ouuzi on December 23, 2013, 03:54:54 PM
Is it possible to apply a LUT during export?That would be awesome.
imagine the workflow.
Load the file with MlRawViewer>apply LUT>export as ProRes 444>Grade in your favourite application!!!

I would like to make that possible eventually.

There's an enhancement issue for it in bitbucket. Feel free to attach a LUT file as an attachment that I can use for testing the feature if/when it gets implemented.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/18/log-output-and-3d-luts-should-be-supported (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/18/log-output-and-3d-luts-should-be-supported)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on December 24, 2013, 11:15:33 AM
sorry i was in a hurry and did not noticed my text.I wanted to say if you apply a log curve during conversion.This is even better because after you can grade with an LUT in your favourite application.
I think i saw in ffmpeg an option for this.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on December 24, 2013, 01:04:45 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 23, 2013, 05:22:16 PM
I would like to make that possible eventually.

There's an enhancement issue for it in bitbucket. Feel free to attach a LUT file as an attachment that I can use for testing the feature if/when it gets implemented.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/18/log-output-and-3d-luts-should-be-supported (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/18/log-output-and-3d-luts-should-be-supported)


It's a great idea.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: AnotherDave on December 24, 2013, 06:04:27 PM
Any chance you can update this to play the embedded audio? :-)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on December 24, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
1. merry christmas to everyone..
2. great viewer.

it could for sure become a great tool when the development still goes on.. very nice.

would it be possible to add the following functions:

1. select in/outpoint
2. convert that selection to dngs
3. audio support
4. a lightweight gui with a small file browser and the possibility to select the files directly..
5. a way to select an output folder
6. convert button
7. spanned files


thank you so much - a really great tool and it would perfectly work on the set and in the studio if those functions would be included.

thx. peace&love.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 25, 2013, 05:30:50 AM
1. This is something I want to work on for the GUI, which still isn't functioning how it needs to.
2. Possibly, it can essentially convert to anything, at the moment only ffmpeg is coded in.
3. Being worked on (not by me).
4. Being worked on by me. If you pull the latest git and run: mlrawgui.py
5. Should already be available, when you're typing where you want it to be saved to.
6. Eventually in the gui, still being worked on.
7. I personally can't answer this one.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: AnotherDave on December 25, 2013, 05:41:08 AM
Quote from: ItsMeLenny on December 25, 2013, 05:30:50 AM
1. This is something I want to work on for the GUI, which still isn't functioning how it needs to.
2. Possibly, it can essentially convert to anything, at the moment only ffmpeg is coded in.
3. Being worked on (not by me).
4. Being worked on by me. If you pull the latest git and run: mlrawgui.py
5. Should already be available, when you're typing where you want it to be saved to.
6. Eventually in the gui, still being worked on.
7. I personally can't answer this one.

We all know he was stating the obvious, but there is no need to be a jerk about it.  This viewer is amazing, and the developer doesn't seem to NOT be asking for user feedback.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 25, 2013, 09:22:04 PM
Quote from: AnotherDave on December 25, 2013, 05:41:08 AM
We all know he was stating the obvious, but there is no need to be a jerk about it.

I think you misunderstood. ItsMeLenny has also been contributing to the development of MlRawViewer.

Quote from: AnotherDave on December 24, 2013, 06:04:27 PM
Any chance you can update this to play the embedded audio? :-)

It's being worked on. There is already support for parsing the audio blocks in the latest code, but it's not yet playing them.

Quote from: swinxx on December 24, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
1. select in/outpoint
2. convert that selection to dngs
3. audio support
4. a lightweight gui with a small file browser and the possibility to select the files directly..
5. a way to select an output folder
6. convert button
7. spanned files

1. Maybe, so ItsMeLenny answer earlier
2. Could be added, though my feeling is that's quite well covered by existing tools
3. In progress
4. Agree this is needed, see ItsMeLenny answer
5. It's there in command line args, but GUI version needed
6. Needed in GUI
7. Should be supported already fine - if you mean .M00/M01 or R00/R01 files. Have these not worked for you?

Please post enhancement requests to the bitbucket issues page (mark as type "Enhancement" instead of bug) or vote on the existing ones listed to get them done sooner :-)

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues)

Finally, I made a new version of the Mac installer which I've tested on 10.7 and 10.9. I'm hoping it will work ok on 10.8 also. Anyone on an earlier OS X release than 10.9 that had troubles earlier, please try it out to see if you have more luck.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1.0.3_alpha.dmg (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1.0.3_alpha.dmg)

Happy Christmas!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 25, 2013, 09:50:53 PM
Spanned files works totally fine. This means it will convert spanned files to ProRes on the fly? Still waiting for my upgaded computer with nvidida graphic card :).

Nice to hear all these things being worked on. Such a perfect tool for working with rawfiles.
Thanks!
/D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ch_d on December 25, 2013, 11:16:09 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 25, 2013, 09:22:04 PM

Finally, I made a new version of the Mac installer which I've tested on 10.7 and 10.9. I'm hoping it will work ok on 10.8 also. Anyone on an earlier OS X release than 10.9 that had troubles earlier, please try it out to see if you have more luck.


YES! worx here on 10.8.5 ... Thank you!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on December 25, 2013, 11:27:58 PM
Thank you so much, this is a lifesaver in OS X, believe it or not it's a critical missing element which makes a huge difference in the usability of ML raw in film productions.

You rock!!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 26, 2013, 02:18:42 AM
Quote from: AnotherDave on December 25, 2013, 05:41:08 AM
We all know he was stating the obvious, but there is no need to be a jerk about it.  This viewer is amazing, and the developer doesn't seem to NOT be asking for user feedback.
To this I am going to say; WTF?
And see baldand's response.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on December 26, 2013, 09:49:34 AM
@baldand, ItsMeLenny

thx for the replies.

add on point 2: i know that there are some tools available for the conversion to dngs, i  however would prefere a solution within only your app. ;) why? cause you have made the by far best available viewer!
so the great thing within your app is that the files can be greatly previewed :) if there would be a possibility to select in and out points, and then put them into a batch file list for later conversion, the tool would be the most useful tool for a production in the new mlv format.. why not offering a conversion of those in and out point segments to dngs or cinemadngs for workflows with e.g. davinci resolve. we could then have the advantage of adjusting the white balance later on - which is a main raw feature for me

add on point 7: works with the latest version.. ;) thx

i have seen that you have implemented 1.4 stretch factor for high fps stuff. great.. would it be possible to implement anamorphic squeeze too, for the anamorphic shooters..? the anamorphic material is stretched vertically (1.5x, 2x, or in special cases 1.4x) so it must be squeezed in the oposite direction as the high fps material
would be nice for previewing that..

thx for all the effort.

sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MA Visuals on December 28, 2013, 07:02:38 PM
Awesome viewer!  The performance and quality of playback is really amazing.  Is there a way to change the encoding output to 23.976 fps?  If not, is this something that is planned?  Also, are there plans to allow vertical scaling of the prores output to unsquash 50/60p files?  Again, well done!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 28, 2013, 08:42:20 PM
Quote from: MA Visuals on December 28, 2013, 07:02:38 PM
Is there a way to change the encoding output to 23.976 fps?  If not, is this something that is planned?  Also, are there plans to allow vertical scaling of the prores output to unsquash 50/60p files?  Again, well done!

The current code in git should pass the frame rate from the source file to the encoder, but only the Mac 1.0.3 DMG binary includes that - not the current windows binary - and I have to admit I haven't tested it with 23.976. If you are using Mac, upgrade to the 1.0.3 to try that. If you are using Win, you'll need to wait for a new installer or install from source.

It would be possible to up-scale the content when encoding, but I suppose we aren't 100% confident right now that we know the correct scale factors for all cameras so that this could work reliably automatically.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MA Visuals on December 28, 2013, 09:14:23 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 28, 2013, 08:42:20 PM
If you are using Win, you'll need to wait for a new installer or install from source.

I'm running Window 7 64bit.  It always outputs 25fps, even though my source files are 23.976.  I understand why now.   I guess I'll wait for the new windows installer.

Quote from: baldand on December 28, 2013, 08:42:20 PM
It would be possible to up-scale the content when encoding, but I suppose we aren't 100% confident right now that we know the correct scale factors for all cameras so that this could work reliably automatically.

Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 29, 2013, 01:25:16 AM
Quote from: MA Visuals on December 28, 2013, 07:02:38 PM
Also, are there plans to allow vertical scaling of the prores output to unsquash 50/60p files?
You can watch the video un-squashed by pressing 'A' (whether it un-squashes it correctly though).
Although un-squashed output is probably more sought after it's usually better to keep the pixels square when editing and un-squash in your video program.
(Just a suggestion).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: AnotherDave on December 29, 2013, 07:31:34 PM
When I run the latest version on OS 10.7, it produces a random .WAV file in the source folder...  why?  Any chance we'll get sound playback soon?

BTW, you are the man!

Quote from: ItsMeLenny on December 26, 2013, 02:18:42 AM
To this I am going to say; WTF?
And see baldand's response.
Sorry, I think at first glance it just appeared to be someone complaining. 
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on December 30, 2013, 01:53:43 AM
Quote from: AnotherDave on December 29, 2013, 07:31:34 PM
Sorry, I think at first glance it just appeared to be someone complaining.
Yes... I was complaining how I was working on the gui...
I merely answered the questions, the numbers matched up.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Sganzerla on January 01, 2014, 10:56:08 PM
Thank you very much for this, baldand!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pind on January 01, 2014, 11:47:18 PM
thank you baldand i wil try it out
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on January 02, 2014, 05:29:19 PM
@baldand Just caught up with your latest package for Mac. It's now working well on OSX 10.7.5!

Thank-you so much! This is a gem of a project. :)

tim
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jakobmen on January 02, 2014, 06:51:20 PM
bald can we do Encoding frame sequences to ProRes & DNxHD? because the codec is free.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on January 02, 2014, 07:07:29 PM
I am not sure if it has been mentioned or maybe I am missing something, but can we extract a raw/mlv to automatically go to the folder where the raw/mlv file is located? Currently, I have to navigate a loy to relocate it. And also have the ability to create a new subfolder using  the name of the raw/mlv file?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on January 02, 2014, 08:27:12 PM
Thank you very much for this program, Baldand.

This was exactly what I was looking for.

I can do clean playback on my laptop now. Amazing!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dubzeebass on January 03, 2014, 02:04:57 AM
Quote from: gary2013 on January 02, 2014, 07:07:29 PM
I am not sure if it has been mentioned or maybe I am missing something, but can we extract a raw/mlv to automatically go to the folder where the raw/mlv file is located? Currently, I have to navigate a loy to relocate it. And also have the ability to create a new subfolder using  the name of the raw/mlv file?

Gary, check my thread here it does it: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9731.0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on January 03, 2014, 02:21:17 AM
Thanx dubzee, but I am using a PC and this looks like Mac. I also need an all in one exe app since I don't know dev stuff.  :(  Maybe I am in the wrong thread. I am asking about the MLV Browser.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on January 14, 2014, 02:51:55 PM
@baldand Please excuse my ignorance, but has the mac.app package on your bitbucket site been updated now to read dngs, and mlv with audio? This is far and away the neatest viewer so far. Thanks a million!

tim
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 14, 2014, 04:15:56 PM
Quote from: timbytheriver on January 14, 2014, 02:51:55 PM
@baldand Please excuse my ignorance, but has the mac.app package on your bitbucket site been updated now to read dngs, and mlv with audio? This is far and away the neatest viewer so far. Thanks a million!

tim

Not yet. The current status for the source code in bitbucket is:

- Directories containing "CinemaDNG" sequences can be played the same as RAW and MLV files
- Also 16bit RGB TIFF sequences can be played (much slower though -> 4x bigger files)
- Embedded sound packets in MLV are read and a WAV file is created
- There is an audio playback thread (but nothing feeding it yet)
- There is a simple python script for converting RAW or MLV files to DNG sequences, similar to mlv_dump etc. This functionality is not yet integrated with the viewer.
- I've worked out and can fix CPU demosaicing crashing on Win8

The main blocker currently for audio playback is that I need to be able to make playback truly real-time, e.g. to be able to drop frames to keep up with the audio. That needs a bit more rework in the core viewer code but I hope to get it done soon.

Rather than bug people with a lot of small releases containing in-progress functionality, I chose to hold off until there was a bit more to include. But if there is demand for just CinemaDNG playback I could of course make new Mac/Win packages from the current code.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on January 14, 2014, 05:33:33 PM
Quote from: baldand on January 14, 2014, 04:15:56 PM
Rather than bug people with a lot of small releases containing in-progress functionality, I chose to hold off until there was a bit more to include. But if there is demand for just CinemaDNG playback I could of course make new Mac/Win packages from the current code.

@baldand Thanks so much for the update, and I understand your philosophy! Will keep watching this space on this project – as my code help would be about as useful as oxygen in a fire! ;)

PS CinemaDNG playback would always be welcome in the mac app though...  :P
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: revast on January 17, 2014, 03:30:39 PM
hi,

QuoteBut if there is demand for just CinemaDNG playback
There is.... but does that mean I cannot (right now) play back a folder with ( non-cinema) DNG's that I converted with mlv_dump or raw2dng?

So right now I must use raw2cdng via wine or your new commandline converter (I guess its tests/ml2dng.py)  to convert to CinemaDNG to be able to play them back?

QuoteDirectories containing "CinemaDNG" sequences can be played the same as RAW and MLV files
and how do I specify that? best would be if it would work when I give the path to one DNG and also if I give the path to the surrounding folder

Quote./mlrawviewer.py ../Canon_5D_Mark_III_Magic_Lantern_Raw_Video_files/
MlRawViewer v1.0.3 alpha
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013
Using GLUT instead of GLFW. Some features may be disabled.
outfilename for CDNG: ../Canon_5D_Mark_III_Magic_Lantern_Raw_Video_files.MOV
Opening CinemaDNG ../Canon_5D_Mark_III_Magic_Lantern_Raw_Video_files/
Could not open file ../Canon_5D_Mark_III_Magic_Lantern_Raw_Video_files/. Error:51044
does that mean it generates a .mov for playing back the DNG's?

QuoteUsing GLUT instead of GLFW. Some features may be disabled.
what am I missing there? I just have glfw2 (libglfw.so.2.6) in ubuntu 12.04...,even 14.04 just has 2.7.2-1 would that be also sufficient?


nevertheless, thanks for MlRawViewer! May it live long and prosper
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 17, 2014, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: revast on January 17, 2014, 03:30:39 PM
There is.... but does that mean I cannot (right now) play back a folder with ( non-cinema) DNG's that I converted with mlv_dump or raw2dng?

mlv_dump, raw2dng and RAWMagic (on Mac) should all produce DNG sequences it can display.

Quote from: revast on January 17, 2014, 03:30:39 PM
how do I specify that? best would be if it would work when I give the path to one DNG and also if I give the path to the surrounding folder

This is how it should currently work.
Give it the directory name and it will play every DNG the dir contains in sorted order (so ideally they should be numbered in sequence with 0 padding to sort correctly).
Alternatively, give it the name of the first DNG file.

My wild guess, from the error code, is you are using an old version of raw2dng to make your dngs? Anyway, it looks like they are missing the CinemaDNG FrameRate tag which recent versions of mlv_dump and raw2dng do include.

Quote from: revast on January 17, 2014, 03:30:39 PM
does that mean it generates a .mov for playing back the DNG's?

Not by default. Initially it just decodes and plays the files directly. But if you press "E", it should start to create a ProRes file with AMaZE demosaicing using the outfilename it made up or one you suppled.

Quote from: revast on January 17, 2014, 03:30:39 PM
what am I missing there? I just have glfw2 (libglfw.so.2.6) in ubuntu 12.04...,even 14.04 just has 2.7.2-1 would that be also sufficient?

No, it's looking for libglfw.so.3 in the local directory (which has a quite different API to 2.x). Right now there is not actually much functional difference between GLUT and GLFW. In fact for me GLFW is not working so well in fullscreen mode either on Mac or Linux with AMD drivers. I need to work on that backend a bit more.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MA Visuals on January 18, 2014, 05:50:42 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 28, 2013, 08:42:20 PM
The current code in git should pass the frame rate from the source file to the encoder, but only the Mac 1.0.3 DMG binary includes that - not the current windows binary - and I have to admit I haven't tested it with 23.976. If you are using Mac, upgrade to the 1.0.3 to try that. If you are using Win, you'll need to wait for a new installer or install from source.

Will the next release you are working on contain the new installer for Windows that supports Prores output encoding to 23.976?  This is the only thing preventing me from utilizing the encoding capablility.  Also, will there be a way of batch encoding a group of files, such as all the files in a folder (I'm a windows user)?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 18, 2014, 06:00:14 PM
Quote from: MA Visuals on January 18, 2014, 05:50:42 PM
Will the next release you are working on contain the new installer for Windows that supports Prores output encoding to 23.976?  This is the only thing preventing me from utilizing the encoding capablility.  Also, will there be a way of batch encoding a group of files, such as all the files in a folder (I'm a windows user)?

Yes, next Windows installer should have that.

Batch encoding and a browser (which you would need to select the batch) are both on the enhancements list, and should be added in the future, but they are both not currently imeplemented.
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/21/batch-encoding (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/21/batch-encoding)
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/19/browser (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/19/browser)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MA Visuals on January 18, 2014, 06:17:27 PM
Looking forward to it!  I just voted up batch encoding and browser file listing in Bitbucket, as well as Log output.  With that combination of enhancements, this would likely become my goto post-processing workflow... bye bye After Effects.  :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on January 19, 2014, 01:31:01 AM
I guess my gui was basically already doing that browser thing.

I think I discovered how to get my gui to work, but I have to do more work on it to get it running.
Also, there's really no GL canvas for Tcl/Tk, so it's probably not the best toolkit to use, it has it's downfall in that case.
But I'm still seeing what I can make.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pilgrim on January 20, 2014, 01:52:47 AM
It's work great on Windows 7 - 64bit.
Now, I don't need to pass the DNG and TIFF files anymore but directly from MLV or RAW to ProRes. Even if the encoding is slow (because my computer) but still more comfortable and faster than passing DNG or TIFF, by RAWanizer, EyeFrame , Son of batch, etc; with all my respect to they who make these apps. I even try to get better conversion for resize or colour with Fast Stone on Windows 7 and Rawker (nice program for RAW even if not famous) on MacOS.
It's nice to read that there will be batch, browser... and the LUT  ;) that is a happiness in advance. I can not do coding. I will wait patiently, in the mean time I can clean the harddisk from the RAW files witch disperse with the "mlrawviewer". Thank you very much all who make this possible.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on January 20, 2014, 07:27:10 AM
I usually rename Mlrawviewer so I have about four or more which can encode simultaneously. It, s a great program. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on January 20, 2014, 01:06:06 PM
I have checked that if you drop the exposure in the viewer you get pink highlights.Can you do any highlight recovery with the application?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 20, 2014, 01:20:01 PM
Yes, I've seen the pink highlights too. All the raw data is available so it should be possible in the future to do some kind of highlight recovery.

I added that now to the enhancements list in bitbucket:https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/30/highlight-recovery (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/30/highlight-recovery)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on January 20, 2014, 01:35:47 PM
Also I would like to make a recommendation about white balance.We do not need presets, we need 4 keys (2 for temperature up/down  and 2 for green/magenta +/- like all RAW Converters).what do you think?
I have checked the quality vs ACR and I found that if you post sharpen you get a really nice sharp file,the only problem for me it's the white balance.If you fix that I will ditch ACR completely.It is way faster as well.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on January 20, 2014, 02:10:07 PM
Quote from: ouuzi on January 20, 2014, 01:35:47 PM
Also I would like to make a recommendation about white balance.We do not need presets, we need 4 keys (2 for temperature up/down  and 2 for green/magenta +/- like all RAW Converters).what do you think?

It was something I was trying to work on as part of the Gui.
At the same time I was doing multipliers. I could go through now and add multiplier buttons for RGB.
But I think temp keys would be harder. Also, the more things that are added the more key combos one has to remember,
which is why I'm meant to be making a gui :P
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on January 20, 2014, 02:20:37 PM
@baldand
Why is brightness only equal to 16.0 now? Obviously it's correct, but it used to be 50.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on January 20, 2014, 03:33:58 PM
All in a nights work, the ability to adjust RGB multipliers;
4, 7 = R-, R+
5, 8 = G-, G+
6, 9 = B-, B+

However they adjust linear (I think), which isn't correct, they should adjust on a logarithmic scale.
But for the moment, they're there.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: katerlouis on January 23, 2014, 05:53:29 PM
Don't be mad if my question already occured or even was already answered since i only read the last site-
As awesome as this tool is for mac (and it really f***ing is!) just going through the footage to find the right clip isn't that comfortable. Maybe it's only me, but I first have to exit the current clip via ESC, then drag the next clip onto the app which then appears right behind my finder window and already plays back. "Always open with" doesnt work whatsoever and I would have to exit the app anyways to watch a new clip. Even with a shotlist it's hard to check which take is best.

My question:
is there any way to get this app to work with the Finder Quick View? Maybe it's to utopic but the performance of the playback is amazingly fluid on my new MBPr 15''
Or what about a shortcut for "next" and "prev" clip in the folder?


That we even talk about such picky things here makes me really happy!
Thx to all of you Magic Lantern guys!


k.louis
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 23, 2014, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: katerlouis on January 23, 2014, 05:53:29 PM
Or what about a shortcut for "next" and "prev" clip in the folder?

This will eventually be solved with an integrated file browser, but the next/prev shortcut is a nice idea. I'll see if that can be added already now before the browser mode is made.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 23, 2014, 11:17:49 PM
MlRawViewer 1.0.4 alpha for Win/Mac now available

I've made new MlRawViewer binary 1.0.4 alpha releases for win32 (Win7+) and OS X (10.7+). See the top post of the thread for links and updated info -> http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165)

New headline features vs previous binary releases:
Please give feedback and bug reports either to this thread, or the bitbucket isues list: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on January 23, 2014, 11:52:36 PM
Oh man! THis is so friggin awesome. Log! White balance, sound, colour. Amazing! Just tried it and what a moment :)
Love the keyboard workflow.

Bug.
Tried to the change to previous/next file and on my computer and it works fine going from .MLV files to both .RAW and .MLV but when starting out from a .RAW file I can,t use the change to previous/next file. I tried with files filmed with a 5d mark 3, Mac os X 10.9.

The log is awesome and to be able to change brightness and whitebalance works very good. So nice!
Exporting works fine and with audio too. Sweet
Can,t thank you enough
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on January 23, 2014, 11:58:51 PM
whow. so great.
i am looking forward to test it out.
thx so much.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on January 24, 2014, 12:39:38 AM
update*
changing from .mlv to the next clip (O,P buttons) results in the next clip keeping the first played clips name. This results in merging the audio from the first file to the next file being exported. For now I have to close down the app and restart to get the names from the files played in the app. GOing from .RAW won,t let me change to the next clip at all.
Mac os X 10.9, 5d mark 3
Otherwise, it,s the finest exporter out there.
Big, big thanks
//D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on January 24, 2014, 12:43:54 AM
This update got me out of bed!
Going to try it straight away!
Impressive stuff guys!!!

1)When you try to convert to log ,the shadows get a pattern noise.Needs fine-tuning.Let me know if I can help.
2)When you try to export from a later frame it does not create a file and goes to loop.

Also I would like to mention that highlight recovery looks very good.

10.9 5D MkIII
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: g3gg0 on January 24, 2014, 01:22:20 AM
i am impressed what you implemented there.
wow. a really cool player!

btw - can you try to honor the MLVI videoClass field?

    uint16_t    videoClass;    /* 0=none, 1=RAW, 2=YUV, 3=JPEG, 4=H.264 */

if it is compressed video, the field will contain a combination of these flags: (see mlv.h)

#define MLV_VIDEO_CLASS_RAW          0x01
#define MLV_VIDEO_CLASS_YUV          0x02
#define MLV_VIDEO_CLASS_JPEG         0x03
#define MLV_VIDEO_CLASS_H264         0x04
#define MLV_VIDEO_CLASS_FLAG_LZMA    0x80
#define MLV_VIDEO_CLASS_FLAG_DELTA   0x40
#define MLV_AUDIO_CLASS_FLAG_LZMA    0x80


currently the player crashes when you try to play a compressed video file.
i would just show an error message telling that the video format isnt supported.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 24, 2014, 08:22:12 AM
Quote from: Danne on January 24, 2014, 12:39:38 AM
update*
changing from .mlv to the next clip (O,P buttons) results in the next clip keeping the first played clips name. This results in merging the audio from the first file to the next file being exported. For now I have to close down the app and restart to get the names from the files played in the app. GOing from .RAW won,t let me change to the next clip at all.
Mac os X 10.9, 5d mark 3

Thanks, I will see if I can reproduce that.

Quote from: ouuzi on January 24, 2014, 12:43:54 AM
1)When you try to convert to log ,the shadows get a pattern noise.Needs fine-tuning.Let me know if I can help.

There's no pattern noise processing so far. I agree something is needed, mainly for the vertical stripes. I would be happy to get a good sample file from you to test with.

Quote from: ouuzi on January 24, 2014, 12:43:54 AM
2)When you try to export from a later frame it does not create a file and goes to loop.

I'll see if I can reproduce. Was this with or without sound, MLV or RAW?

Quote from: ouuzi on January 24, 2014, 12:43:54 AM
Also I would like to mention that highlight recovery looks very good.

It's still quite simple, mainly filling in green from red/blue if that exceeds the white level in the file. It seems to get rid of the worst magenta skies, but it can also cause some visible banding if there is a gradient so it probably needs more work.

Quote from: g3gg0 on January 24, 2014, 01:22:20 AM
btw - can you try to honor the MLVI videoClass field?
...
currently the player crashes when you try to play a compressed video file.
i would just show an error message telling that the video format isnt supported.

Good point. I will make sure this is handled more gracefully. I'll also will see if I can get it to play back those LZMA and delta encoded files, but I'm not sure if real time playback will be feasible.

I have some ideas for an alternate MLV frame compression algorithm which would allow real time compression (e.g. when importing from a CF card) and decompression (for real time playback). Would be interested to hear your thoughts e.g. if I would try to contribute support for something like that to mlv_dump. See https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/29/fast-de-compression-of-mlv-files (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/29/fast-de-compression-of-mlv-files)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on January 24, 2014, 08:31:02 AM
I think this app is pretty sweet and I appreciate your efforts so much in filling a void which needed to be filled.

One of the things I wish is that the app would open when you double-click on it on the Mac and perhaps display a window where files can be dragged on as opposed to dragging the file on the app icon itself.

It would be extra awesome if, say I dragged 5 .raw files in the app, and it played them back sequentially. This would be extremely handy for reviewing takes.

Many thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 24, 2014, 08:38:38 AM
Quote from: Midphase on January 24, 2014, 08:31:02 AM
One of the things I wish is that the app would open when you double-click on it on the Mac and perhaps display a window where files can be dragged on as opposed to dragging the file on the app icon itself.

It would be extra awesome if, say I dragged 5 .raw files in the app, and it played them back sequentially. This would be extremely handy for reviewing takes.

At least basic drag&drop support would be good, but I've had some toolkit challenges trying to get that to work on any platform, so not sure if it's doable.

Have you tried the new O/P keys to go to previous/next file in the same dir? If your takes are sequential files then that should achieve something similar.

(Eventually however, there should be an integrated browser view for this kind of thing. And a proper UI instead of keyboard commands only.)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: g3gg0 on January 24, 2014, 09:22:14 AM
Quote from: baldand on January 24, 2014, 08:38:38 AM
(Eventually however, there should be an integrated browser view for this kind of thing. And a proper UI instead of keyboard commands only.)

i will add support for your player to my crude and basic raw browser.
its not really high sophisticated as it was ~20 hrs of work, but at least this will provide a simple browser.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on January 24, 2014, 09:29:43 AM
Quote from: baldand on January 24, 2014, 08:38:38 AM(Eventually however, there should be an integrated browser view for this kind of thing. And a proper UI instead of keyboard commands only.)

Would it be perhaps possible for the commands to be superimposed on the screen at least temporarily?

For instance, when pressing Q, it would say "High Quality On" for a couple of seconds, or when pressing the White Balance numbers it would say "White Balance Tungsten" for a couple of seconds.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on January 24, 2014, 11:23:17 AM
Quote from: baldand on January 24, 2014, 08:22:12 AM
Thanks, I will see if I can reproduce that.

There's no pattern noise processing so far. I agree something is needed, mainly for the vertical stripes. I would be happy to get a good sample file from you to test with.

Do you need a MLV file?

QuoteI'll see if I can reproduce. Was this with or without sound, MLV or RAW?

MLV with sound.

One more suggestion is to try to emulate the vision log ACR preset so we can use the Osiris LUT.This will make happy a lot of people.

I can replicate the audio "bug".After a few seconds audio drops out in the viewer,but the wav separate file is intact and full.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on January 24, 2014, 12:22:07 PM
@baldand Thank you to all involved for this next release. So excited; Christmas has come again!!  :)

Some bugs to report on my platform (Mac OSX 10.7.5)

– After indexing, the audio plays a few seconds (5s or so) then drops out while the image stream continues to play. Is this correct, or just my slow mac? (Toggling Drop frame works as intended)
– Can't judge the effect of the nudge audio sync keys because of above

– When Encoding (E) to a folder I am getting: myfile.mov, myfile.wav, and an extra timestamped .wav myfile_10.54.24.wav Is this expected behaviour?

– Also when encoding I randomly / sometimes get a myfile.mov.wav of a few bytes that doesn't open – but no completed movie. I then have to delete all files and start again.

Any thoughts on the above?

EDIT -------

– White Balance keys no longer operating at all
– Ditto above fine colour balancer keys

EDIT: They *do* work but but have discovered that they seemed to have moved from the numeric keypad on the right, to the one above the keyboard on my mac! ::)


Thanks again. You is baaaaad! :P

tim
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: katerlouis on January 24, 2014, 03:54:03 PM
Wooh- my first post and it turns out a great idea. Proud the lil kater is :>
Thrilled to test myyy feature! Have to wait for the footage to come back, grr-

Question: next / prev uses MY finder order or simply alphabetic?
This info is useful because we think of renaming the clips according to whats in there so I may end up ordering them by creation date for some reason-

just curious.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 24, 2014, 07:06:33 PM
Quote from: katerlouis on January 24, 2014, 03:54:03 PM
Question: next / prev uses MY finder order or simply alphabetic?
This info is useful because we think of renaming the clips according to whats in there so I may end up ordering them by creation date for some reason-

Currently alphabetic. That's good for RAW or MLV files copied straight from the camera. If you rename to include date, make sure you do it something like YYYY_MM_DD_HH_SS with zero filling.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 24, 2014, 07:18:01 PM
Quote from: timbytheriver on January 24, 2014, 12:22:07 PM
– After indexing, the audio plays a few seconds (5s or so) then drops out while the image stream continues to play. Is this correct, or just my slow mac? (Toggling Drop frame works as intended)
What CPU and GPU you have? How long is the WAV file that is created - is that full length?

Quote from: timbytheriver on January 24, 2014, 12:22:07 PM
– When Encoding (E) to a folder I am getting: myfile.mov, myfile.wav, and an extra timestamped .wav myfile_10.54.24.wav Is this expected behaviour?
– Also when encoding I randomly / sometimes get a myfile.mov.wav of a few bytes that doesn't open – but no completed movie. I then have to delete all files and start again.

Not exactly. When encoding, another wav is created for exactly the length and sync. That's the one in the non-working case it seems....Not sure what's going on there. Is it totally random or connected to the clip?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on January 24, 2014, 08:08:57 PM
Can't seem to figure out how to playback CDNG sequences. If I drag the first file on top of the app, the app doesn't recognize it and the Mac Finder simply thinks I want to move or copy my CDNG file to a new folder.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 24, 2014, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: Midphase on January 24, 2014, 08:08:57 PM
Can't seem to figure out how to playback CDNG sequences. If I drag the first file on top of the app, the app doesn't recognize it and the Mac Finder simply thinks I want to move or copy my CDNG file to a new folder.

Yes, I found out today that might need a bit more work on Mac since it doesn't have ".DNG" in its app info. I'll fix that in the next release. After that you should be able to select one of the DNGs and do "Open with" MlRawViewer.

For now you would have to use the command line to run the mlrawviewer binary inside the app directory and give it the CDNG directory as an argument. Sorry!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on January 24, 2014, 08:56:20 PM
Quote from: baldand on January 24, 2014, 07:18:01 PM
What CPU and GPU you have? How long is the WAV file that is created - is that full length?
Slow machine here: MacMini 2.5khz i5 8gb AMD Radeon HD 6630M 256 MB. Will test it on my Mac Book Pro. Rogue WAV file is always 44bytes!
Quote from: baldand on January 24, 2014, 07:18:01 PM
Is it totally random or connected to the clip?
Seems random. Have tried several clips. *But* I notice that if I play a file say half way through and press E the encode fails in the way I described. If I press E right at the start of the play the file encodes properly! Maybe that's a clue?

Apart from this – your app is a thing of beauty! :)

tim
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on January 28, 2014, 08:32:58 PM
Awesome app!!!! I included it in my batch MLV converter...

I've been using the 1.0.4 in windows.. and when I open an MLV file, sometimes it opens fine, but other times the program opens and closes in a second, quitting, the audio file is created. When I go again, there it is fine! Here is a log:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kj33bt0iihq6ef0/mlrawviewer.log

Would it be too much trouble to add a bar with controls? Or maybe that the overlay progressbar shows then the mouse is over the window? Or a key shortcut to hide and unhide it? When shooting 2.35:1, the video is not too tall, and the bar covers a good amount of the frame!

Also, the repeat function.. can it be disabled??

Another.. would it be too much trouble for the program to delete the .wav file after we close it? It happens that if you have a neat folder structure with MLV files, some will have wav files and some won't..

And last but not least.. in windows, do I have command line options? As I have my batch converter.. maybe those can be useful for comunicating with your program..

Thanks and cheers!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 28, 2014, 09:09:25 PM
Quote from: tonybeccar on January 28, 2014, 08:32:58 PM
I've been using the 1.0.4 in windows.. and when I open an MLV file, sometimes it opens fine, but other times the program opens and closes in a second, quitting, the audio file is created. When I go again, there it is fine! Here is a log:

Thanks for the log. I think I have an idea what's going wrong (with the wav handling).

Quote from: tonybeccar on January 28, 2014, 08:32:58 PM
Would it be too much trouble to add a bar with controls? Or maybe that the overlay progressbar shows then the mouse is over the window? Or a key shortcut to hide and unhide it? When shooting 2.35:1, the video is not too tall, and the bar covers a good amount of the frame!

A proper UI (and browser) is high on the list of things to do next. See the issue list and please vote up ones you'd like to see tackled sooner: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open)

Quote from: tonybeccar on January 28, 2014, 08:32:58 PM
Also, the repeat function.. can it be disabled??

I think it could be made optional, probably later with a persistant setting.

Quote from: tonybeccar on January 28, 2014, 08:32:58 PM
Another.. would it be too much trouble for the program to delete the .wav file after we close it? It happens that if you have a neat folder structure with MLV files, some will have wav files and some won't..

You don't think it's at all useful that the embedded sound data is extracted to a WAV? Again though, this could be made an option.

Quote from: tonybeccar on January 28, 2014, 08:32:58 PM
And last but not least.. in windows, do I have command line options? As I have my batch converter.. maybe those can be useful for comunicating with your program..

There are 3 command line args. First is the name of the video (or CinemaDNG directory). Second [optional] is the name of an external wav file to use if there is no embedded wav (if you have an external recorder like I do). Third is the base name to use for an exported file. At the moment there are no more args, e.g. to launch with certain settings or modes. But feel free to suggest some that you might like to have available either here or on the issues list above.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ted ramasola on January 28, 2014, 09:38:19 PM
This is great. Fast and responsive. Nice to see it incorporated with Tonybeccar's MLV converter.

Have to vote +1 also that the wav file generated by the viewer be deleted when viewer is closed as this clutters the folders when the DNGs and WAV will eventually be extracted from the MLV later on.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on January 28, 2014, 10:20:15 PM
Wow, yes! very fast and responsive! :D Thank you!!!

Agree with Ted, the wav file will eventually be extracted with the dng's, so we dont need it on the mlv folder, the mlv container is supposed to have the audio included!

Thanks for the issue list, didnt know about that one! Cheers!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: PTRush on January 29, 2014, 04:42:58 PM
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but here goes- can I export mlv's to cinema dng's with sound on my Mac? Can't seem to find the answer anywhere.
Thanks for the great app!!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on January 30, 2014, 05:50:31 PM
I think someone else posted similar like this, but believe that was on Mac. I am on Windows.

On version 1.0.2 I could choose RAW/MLV files to open default with MLRawViewer, but on 1.0.4 I have to drag and drop each file and next/prev does not work.

Am I doing something stupid?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mario1000 on January 31, 2014, 04:56:22 PM
When I record a video with 21 fps I get the following MLV Viewer protocol:

MlRawViewer v1.0.4 alpha
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013-2014
Using GLFW
Opening MLV file C:\Users\ich\Desktop\M31-1206.MLV
Black level: 2047 White level: 15000
FPS: 29.776
Audio frame count 346
Set indexed. Frames missing: 3
Audio loop running
Width: 2560 Height: 1090 Frames: 728
Using Bilinear demosaic algorithm
Indexing completed
Stopping Audio

So the FPS number is interpreted as 29.776 instead of 21 fps. Have you got any ideas about how to fix this?

Best regards
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 31, 2014, 09:57:20 PM
Quote from: mario1000 on January 31, 2014, 04:56:22 PM
So the FPS number is interpreted as 29.776 instead of 21 fps. Have you got any ideas about how to fix this?

How did you set the frame rate? Did you use the "exact framerate" FPS override option, or something else?
Which camera, and how recent is your software?

If you record with "exact framerate", does it still report the wrong framerate?

At least on 7D I am able to record with 21 fps and the correct rate is reported. My guess is that the rate is recorded wrongly in the MLV file for some reason.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 31, 2014, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: Kharak on January 30, 2014, 05:50:31 PM
On version 1.0.2 I could choose RAW/MLV files to open default with MLRawViewer, but on 1.0.4 I have to drag and drop each file and next/prev does not work.

You should be able to configure Windows to open mlrawviewer by default for any .RAW or .MLV files.

Try right clicking on a file, and choose "Open with..." to bring up the association options.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 31, 2014, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: PTRush on January 29, 2014, 04:42:58 PM
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but here goes- can I export mlv's to cinema dng's with sound on my Mac? Can't seem to find the answer anywhere.
Thanks for the great app!!!

The DNGs produced by mlv_dump should be *almost* Cinema DNGs - at least they have the CinemaDNG FrameRate tag and Resolve/AE are able to open them as sequences. mlv_dump will create a WAV file from the MLV, but I'm not sure if that combination quite qualifies counts as a "CinemaDNG with sound".

Anyway, in theory mlrawviewer should be able to play that combination, though you probably need to launch it from the command line giving the directory for the DNGs followed by the full path to the WAV file.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on February 01, 2014, 03:59:17 AM
Quote from: baldand on January 31, 2014, 09:59:38 PM
You should be able to configure Windows to open mlrawviewer by default for any .RAW or .MLV files.

Try right clicking on a file, and choose "Open with..." to bring up the association options.

Yeah I did that. Maybe I did a bad delete of 1.0.2 ?

EDIT: I opened CCleaner, did registry cleanup and there I could see "Problem with 'open with'" for mlvview. Fixed it and now it works fine.

Bad delete indeed :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dpiximaj on February 02, 2014, 02:42:57 AM
Thanks so much! So helpful!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on February 03, 2014, 09:33:00 PM
Hi, i have try the last version and it open some window and then it close, almost you can't see it...

Here the log

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ed82osoc80rdlxa/C773hIXtJS 

Thanks for the good work  :))
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on February 04, 2014, 12:08:39 AM
Same as arinkiiii, uploading a new log with different errors I think... also the Next and Previous functions are messed up too!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kj33bt0iihq6ef0/mlrawviewer.log

Cheers!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on February 04, 2014, 08:34:47 AM
Quote from: arrinkiiii on February 03, 2014, 09:33:00 PM
Hi, i have try the last version and it open some window and then it close, almost you can't see it...

@arrinkiiii - that looks like a problem with OpenGL on your PC. Was an earlier version of MlRawViewer working for you on the same system? Has your system changed in any way since then? What version of Windows are you using?

@tonybeccar - I see 2 problems. One is related to the new audio playback functionality. Then later you have an opengl memory problem (possible after using Next/Previous buttons many times).
Can you describe what you see when opening the program. Does the window close immediately or does it show the first frame for a few seconds while indexing, then close? Is the disk with the videos full or read-only?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on February 04, 2014, 10:56:16 AM
Hi baldand,

It's the first time that im testing the MlRawViewer, im in win 7 32bits. Today, later, i will try in my desktop to see how it works, it got a nice graphic card and will report here =))


Edit: Today i try to open MLV files in my desktop win7 64bits and it works good. For sure that the problem is my laptop/graphic card... or the absence of a good one.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 1% on February 05, 2014, 06:32:24 AM
Does encoding start from where you press E? I'm trying to save time and dump out to pro-res, but want to tweak sync/wb first. Just pause it and seek around?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on February 05, 2014, 08:03:16 AM
Quote from: 1% on February 05, 2014, 06:32:24 AM
Does encoding start from where you press E? I'm trying to save time and dump out to pro-res, but want to tweak sync/wb first. Just pause it and seek around?

Yes, that's how it should be working right now. Pause with SPACE, skip with LEFT/RIGHT, nudge with COMMA(,)/PERIOD(.), then press E again to start encode from there. Press E again to stop, or leave it alone and it will encode to the end of the file.

Encoding is done with what you see (plus some extra bits your monitor can't display), so tweak the white balance with number keys, brightness with UP/DOWN and pick the mapping with T (Log, Linear or Global tone map).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 1% on February 05, 2014, 06:23:02 PM
I guess GUI will do wonders here for doing it in batch... The videos are coming out 4:4:4 and keying nicely. Decided to nudge after I pick whichever takes I want, i think its only a few frames difference. Its much slower than raw2cineform but the results are de-bayered correctly. Would be cool if the amazed frames could be sent to cineform since they're taking forever to implement any decent debayer.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on February 05, 2014, 08:37:59 PM
Quote from: 1% on February 05, 2014, 06:23:02 PM
I guess GUI will do wonders here for doing it in batch... The videos are coming out 4:4:4 and keying nicely. Decided to nudge after I pick whichever takes I want, i think its only a few frames difference. Its much slower than raw2cineform but the results are de-bayered correctly. Would be cool if the amazed frames could be sent to cineform since they're taking forever to implement any decent debayer.

Are you using Windows? I had to disable multithreaded AMaZE on Windows as it was crashing on Win8 (doh). On Linux it should use all cores and be a bit faster.
In a later version I'll try to do multithreaded CPU demosaic in a cross-platform friendly way so all platforms go a bit faster.

For me, something like AMaZE seems to be essential to get reasonable looking results in non-crop mode on anything but 5d3.

(At first glance, cineform doesn't really look like an option for integration since it's a commercial codec, and raw2gpcf only takes .RAW as input. But maybe I'm wrong?).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on February 05, 2014, 11:35:16 PM
First of all, many thanks for all your hard work.

When could we expect a new update? Particularly the DNG playback on Mac?

I realize that you're probably quite busy with other life demands, but I'd love more frequent updates with smaller tweaks rather than more time between updates but with larger upgrades. No need for nightlies or anything of the sort, but maybe weeklies?

BTW, if this was a pay app, I would totally buy it. Not necessarily saying that you need to start charging, but if you did it wouldn't hold me back from buying. So if you want to add a PayPal link...go for it!

PS.

One last thing...should this thread be moved to the Post Production section? It seems like this app belongs there rather than in this section...thoughts?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 1% on February 06, 2014, 01:31:20 AM
QuoteAre you using Windows? I had to disable multithreaded AMaZE on Windows as it was crashing on Win8 (doh). On Linux it should use all cores and be a bit faster.

Win7, the 1.04 alpha version. It looks like amaze is on when its encoding but really slows down if you try it with playback. FFmpeg uses 2 cores and then the player uses 1.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 1% on February 07, 2014, 03:34:42 AM
Should have edited but... bump: I can't nudge the audio backwards only forwards... ie audio needs to go back 4 frames and its not possible. Some audio at the beginning would have to be cut off.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mrd777 on February 10, 2014, 09:08:50 AM
Awesome tool.

My question is, to get the best quality from this, should we use the build in encoder, or should we export as dng and then render video using something like avid DNxHD codec?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on February 10, 2014, 12:10:46 PM
Quote from: mrd777 on February 10, 2014, 09:08:50 AM
My question is, to get the best quality from this, should we use the build in encoder, or should we export as dng and then render video using something like avid DNxHD codec?

The built in encoder is ffmpeg/avconv. The settings can be tweaked so you can get whatever quality you like, and it essentially be the equivalent of exporting to dng then converting.
It all depends on your preferred work flow really.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mrd777 on February 10, 2014, 09:54:18 PM
Quote from: ItsMeLenny on February 10, 2014, 12:10:46 PM
The built in encoder is ffmpeg/avconv. The settings can be tweaked so you can get whatever quality you like, and it essentially be the equivalent of exporting to dng then converting.
It all depends on your preferred work flow really.

Is there a thread showing how to pull the best quality out of the mlv using MlRawViewer? I haven't seen it. Maybe I missed it?

Thank you
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Luzestudio on February 11, 2014, 09:39:21 AM
Thanks a lot for this great program.
It works fast and right now Im studing the possibility to adapt my workflow with it.

MLV->MlRawViewer (as neutral as possible white balance - Logaritmic Maping - ProRes)->Premiere.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on February 11, 2014, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: mrd777 on February 10, 2014, 09:54:18 PM
Is there a thread showing how to pull the best quality out of the mlv using MlRawViewer? I haven't seen it. Maybe I missed it?

It's somewhat set up to render in best quality.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: katerlouis on February 11, 2014, 04:32:00 PM
Hey folks,
sittin here with my director on a Win7 64bit Setup usin the 1.0.4 alpha and everythin seems to work great so far, buuut O / P (next , prev clip) isn't workin why so ever :o

Is it me or just Windows?

Thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jose_ugs on February 11, 2014, 07:00:17 PM
Awesomenesssssss!!! Smooveee mlv playback, spanned, sound, etc... i was using DrasticPreviewer and thought there's no way we'll ever get smooth raw playback... Hugeee bow to all being involved!!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on February 11, 2014, 07:21:32 PM
Really Great so far..
Would be great if you could set in out points and convert the selected material to cdng or dng ;)
Combined with a batch function it would be a game changer!!
Thx for your hard work!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jose_ugs on February 11, 2014, 08:12:03 PM
If you read the whole thread u'll see it's heading that way ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Markus on February 11, 2014, 08:17:31 PM
Extremly good viewer! I'm only missing a Fullscreen mode. You can maximize the window but fullscreen would be nicer. I would vote for Ctrl+f to toggle as in resolve   :D.

/Cheers!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jose_ugs on February 11, 2014, 08:21:46 PM
+1
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on February 11, 2014, 08:26:09 PM
Quote from: Markus on February 11, 2014, 08:17:31 PM
Extremly good viewer! I'm only missing a Fullscreen mode. You can maximize the window but fullscreen would be nicer. I would vote for Ctrl+f to toggle as in resolve   :D.

/Cheers!

Pressing TAB key should toggle between full and windowed mode on all platforms.

On Mac, there is also the Fullscreen icon at the top right of the window frame which might work better.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Markus on February 11, 2014, 09:32:50 PM
NICE!  :D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: aace on February 12, 2014, 01:35:11 AM
Quote from: Markus on February 11, 2014, 08:17:31 PM
Extremly good viewer! I'm only missing a Fullscreen mode. You can maximize the window but fullscreen would be nicer. I would vote for Ctrl+f to toggle as in resolve   :D.

/Cheers!

Hit the TAB key to toggle full screen. All the shortcut key functions are on the first page.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Markus on February 12, 2014, 05:29:11 AM
aace: I did actually look for that on the first page. And now that you say It's there I still cant find it? Am i blind or is the shortcut for fullscreen missing?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: aace on February 12, 2014, 06:19:07 AM
Quote from: Markus on February 12, 2014, 05:29:11 AM
aace: I did actually look for that on the first page. And now that you say It's there I still cant find it? Am i blind or is the shortcut for fullscreen missing?

You're right brother. Check the main site here: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on February 12, 2014, 07:43:42 AM
Quote from: Markus on February 12, 2014, 05:29:11 AM
aace: I did actually look for that on the first page. And now that you say It's there I still cant find it? Am i blind or is the shortcut for fullscreen missing?

Good find, thanks! I added a "TAB for fullscreen" line now to the top post.

BTW there is also now a freenode IRC channel for questions: #mlrawviewer
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: katerlouis on February 13, 2014, 02:45:38 PM
Sorry to bother again guys, but now I'm on my Mac again and with the newest version (TAB Fullscreen is workin) I still can't switch clips with O / P.

So I kindly ask again: is this just me, do I have to set some settings or is this feature currently not workin? :)


kl
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on February 14, 2014, 02:18:52 AM
Quote from: katerlouis on February 13, 2014, 02:45:38 PM
So I kindly ask again: is this just me, do I have to set some settings or is this feature currently not workin? :)

Wasn't working for me either last time I tried. And that's on Gnu/Linux with the latest source.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: naturalsound on February 16, 2014, 04:34:07 PM
Hi everybody,

first of all: Great tool!! I never even dreamed of being able to preview MLV on my old Thinkpad T400 in realtime.

unfortunately I encountered a little but annoying problem:
This happens after closing the viewer (clicking the red cross on Windows or using ESC-key). When I afterwards drop another MLV onto the .exe the window appears, but is black. RAM usage increases and after about 10sec mlrawviewer closes.
If I drop the file again, it will be played without problems.

I noticed when I double click the .exe between each MLV (of course producing an error in the log) the next MLV I drop will be played without issues.
Surprisingly the black window problem does not create an entry inside the error log.
This happens on an ATI MobilityRadeon Maybe the OpenCL / OpenGL is not shut down cleanly??

Another very little issue: I notice pink bars of about 10 pixels at the right and bottom edge of the footage during playback. I haven't seen them on my desktop PC with NVIDIA GPU ( but I will double check).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on February 16, 2014, 06:46:23 PM
Quote from: naturalsound on February 16, 2014, 04:34:07 PM
This happens after closing the viewer (clicking the red cross on Windows or using ESC-key). When I afterwards drop another MLV onto the .exe the window appears, but is black. RAM usage increases and after about 10sec mlrawviewer closes.
If I drop the file again, it will be played without problems.

I noticed when I double click the .exe between each MLV (of course producing an error in the log) the next MLV I drop will be played without issues.
Surprisingly the black window problem does not create an entry inside the error log.
This happens on an ATI MobilityRadeon Maybe the OpenCL / OpenGL is not shut down cleanly??

Hard to know what's happening here. Can you check with the Windows task manager if the task has really shut down after the first time you closed it?

Might be worth trying to update your OpenGL/graphics card drivers if that's in any way possible.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: naturalsound on February 16, 2014, 07:53:32 PM
Thanks for the quick reply.

mlrawviewer is running as 2 threads. Both close when I hit ESC.
I am currently downloading the newest driver ...was really surprised that my current one is more than one year old. I will update this post with my results.

UPDATE:
- newest ATI driver installed: Still a pink frame and still the black window.
- I noticed that the black window does not appear when I drop the same MLV file on mlrawviewer again. It only happens with different files. Btw I have version 1.0.4 _alpha32 from the .zip as I can not build it on my own from the repository.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on February 17, 2014, 12:55:31 AM
Just Used it on my Mac.
Great tool!
Easy to install, easy to use, work fast, great video quality And it rendered to prores with E key on the fly.
Thank you so much.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: llirik on February 21, 2014, 01:58:39 PM
Quote from: baldand on January 31, 2014, 10:04:23 PM
Anyway, in theory mlrawviewer should be able to play that combination, though you probably need to launch it from the command line giving the directory for the DNGs followed by the full path to the WAV file.

How would I do this on the mac?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on February 21, 2014, 04:30:35 PM
Quote from: llirik on February 21, 2014, 01:58:39 PM
How would I do this on the mac?

Open a terminal, and go into the /Applications folder, and from there into the MlRawViewer.app directory to find the mlrawviewer binary (it's in a subdirectory).

Then launch it with (replacing the path names...):

./mlrawviewer /path/to/CDNG/directory /optional/path/to/audio.wav

(In case the paths have spaces in, put quotes around them, e.g. "/path/to/dir with spaces/")
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: llirik on February 21, 2014, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: baldand on February 21, 2014, 04:30:35 PM
Open a terminal, and go into the /Applications folder, and from there into the MlRawViewer.app directory to find the mlrawviewer binary (it's in a subdirectory).

Then launch it with (replacing the path names...):

./mlrawviewer /path/to/CDNG/directory /optional/path/to/audio.wav

(In case the paths have spaces in, put quotes around them, e.g. "/path/to/dir with spaces/")

not working. i don't know terminal too well though, so may be missing obvious steps.

is there a guide anywhere on how to do this? getting the wav out of the .MLV is easy enough (tho its one at a time... no batch options?)... but i still need the DNGs, instead of a prores file.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on February 21, 2014, 09:21:35 PM
Quote from: llirik on February 21, 2014, 08:29:07 PM
not working. i don't know terminal too well though, so may be missing obvious steps.

is there a guide anywhere on how to do this? getting the wav out of the .MLV is easy enough (tho its one at a time... no batch options?)... but i still need the DNGs, instead of a prores file.

Hold on, are you trying to play DNGs, or extract DNGs from your MLV?

MlRawViewer can play CDNG (though it's not well integrated on Mac yet). It can't yet extract them but there are other tools that can - mainly mlv_dump.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: llirik on February 22, 2014, 06:14:13 AM
Quote from: baldand on February 21, 2014, 09:21:35 PM
Hold on, are you trying to play DNGs, or extract DNGs from your MLV?

MlRawViewer can play CDNG (though it's not well integrated on Mac yet). It can't yet extract them but there are other tools that can - mainly mlv_dump.
ah, yes. found thread on MLV converter.

thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: naturalsound on February 25, 2014, 10:00:53 PM
Hi baldand,

I've seen a lot of changes in your bitbucket repo since 1.0.4. Do you have any plans to compile a new build in near future?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pilgrim on February 25, 2014, 10:54:20 PM
Quote from: naturalsound on February 25, 2014, 10:00:53 PM
Hi baldand,

I've seen a lot of changes in your bitbucket repo since 1.0.4. Do you have any plans to compile a new build in near future?

Hi baldand !
Yes, I wait and check this thread regularly but still the version 1.0.4 32bit.exe . Unfortunately I don't know how to compile.
It will be nice if moving to 64 bit or with the GUI even if not perfect, I am ready to give feed back or close my mouth  :-X   or even still 32 bit but fix the last bug.
By the way, thank baldand; it's very good tool. I use in win7 an Mavericks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on February 26, 2014, 02:32:21 AM
Quote from: naturalsound on February 25, 2014, 10:00:53 PM
I've seen a lot of changes in your bitbucket repo since 1.0.4. Do you have any plans to compile a new build in near future?

The changes probably aren't significant enough as of yet.
As in it seems there are some new features, but it's not enough to warrant the process of compiling for mac and windows :P
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: naturalsound on February 26, 2014, 08:52:46 AM
I see! It indeed is not straightforward to run the new version from source under windows. I doubt I will manage to do it, so I have to wait for the 1.0.5  :-X
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on February 26, 2014, 01:54:04 PM
Quote from: naturalsound on February 25, 2014, 10:00:53 PM
Hi baldand,

I've seen a lot of changes in your bitbucket repo since 1.0.4. Do you have any plans to compile a new build in near future?

Yes.

Quote from: pilgrim on February 25, 2014, 10:54:20 PM
Hi baldand !
It will be nice if moving to 64 bit or with the GUI even if not perfect, I am ready to give feed back or close my mouth  :-X   or even still 32 bit but fix the last bug.

A better GUI will be the next major improvement. It is already implemented in bitbucket.
But is there some reason why you need a 64bit build for Windows? The program is not so memory hungry that it would benefit much, and performance is mostly depending on your GPU.

I hope to make a 1.1.0 binary release for Mac and Windows during next week with the code that is in bitbucket now. I have problems with the Mac build though, so I need to work out those first.

Main features:
- Progress bar can be clicked to jump in the file
- Clickable icons for play/pause, fullscreen, quality, colour mapping, drop frames
- Brightness control
- Colour balance control

Bug fixes:
- Next/prev file (O/P) should be more robust and not mix up the audio
- Audio can be shifted freely for resyncing
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on February 26, 2014, 02:43:52 PM
That is Good news. Thanks for the good and sharing  work. If possible please put some option for upload mlv file for make the subtractive black frame  :D

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on February 26, 2014, 04:16:05 PM
We are surely waiting for it !!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: katerlouis on February 26, 2014, 10:44:23 PM
Yeah! New build- with O & P-Keys! :D
Next Clip, Prev Clip For presidents!

Thx.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pilgrim on February 26, 2014, 11:21:00 PM
Quote
Yes.

A better GUI will be the next major improvement. It is already implemented in bitbucket.
But is there some reason why you need a 64bit build for Windows? The program is not so memory hungry that it would benefit much, and performance is mostly depending on your GPU.
...........


Baldand,

Thank you for your reply. It's clarify that GPU is the main worker. On Mac Mavericks I try to convert one file and then 6 different files, after copied and rename 6 mlrawviewer apps (I think Danne who point out that idea, thanks  ;) ) and when I see the occupation of CPU on the "activities windows" it's more process so I thought it influence the CPU. Yes, its work very fast  :) :). And it's nice to see many files working/transcoding together, like batch file of many 5DtoRGB transcoding.
Again, thank you very much for the program and the good news which will arrive.  :) :)  :-X
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on February 27, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
I am also looking forward to the next release, and please add in and out points!! I think that would be a main feature for converting stuff
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on February 27, 2014, 03:12:12 PM
Quote from: swinxx on February 27, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
I am also looking forward to the next release, and please add in and out points!! I think that would be a main feature for converting stuff

I was thinking about this - would it be enough to be able to add a single mark in the timeline and then use the current frame as the second (implicit) mark when starting encoding?

If the current frame would be before the mark, encoding would run from current frame until the mark.
If the current frame would be after the mark, encoding would run from the mark to the current frame.

Or do you see some use case for having both in and out marks independent of the current frame?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on February 27, 2014, 03:57:02 PM
Hi Baldand. Really like your app. Looking forward for your upcoming achievements. One question on my mind is about batchfunctionality. If It,s like now a simple inpoint and to start encoding from current frame would do fine. However, the question is what to do next when the conversion starts. Instead of waiting for conversion to finish I want to get on with the rest of my files. Would be awesome to maybe queue the files and when all settings are applied to all files being able to start the conversion queue from there. This might be too hard to implement and maybe this little "dream" have been discussed already.
Thanks again for all your work on this. Still the best rawviewer by far.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on February 27, 2014, 05:59:25 PM
Quote from: Danne on February 27, 2014, 03:57:02 PM
Hi Baldand. Really like your app. Looking forward for your upcoming achievements. One question on my mind is about batchfunctionality. If It,s like now a simple inpoint and to start encoding from current frame would do fine. However, the question is what to do next when the conversion starts. Instead of waiting for conversion to finish I want to get on with the rest of my files. Would be awesome to maybe queue the files and when all settings are applied to all files being able to start the conversion queue from there. This might be too hard to implement and maybe this little "dream" have been discussed already.
Thanks again for all your work on this. Still the best rawviewer by far.

Batch encoding or DNG conversion will first need a browser to allow files to be picked.

The browser is on the enhancements list https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/19/browser (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/19/browser) and will probably be the major focus of the release after the coming 1.1.0

After that is in, then I can look at a batch queue, and I agree that this will need the in/out point recorded in the queue entry.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on February 27, 2014, 07:48:04 PM
Hello baldand!

The easiest scenario for the "user like me ;)" would be the possibility to  set in AND out points, then take the clip into a queue for later conversion to dng or cdgn or whatever. So you can look through your recorded clips from a session and select only the parts which are important for later editing!
The raw recording takes really so much disc space that conversion of only the important parts will save conversion time and disc space;) thank you so much.
Greets swinxx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dubzeebass on February 27, 2014, 08:02:40 PM
I agree with swinxx.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jcs on March 03, 2014, 06:22:41 AM
Hi- great tool!

Testing with MLV and audio (ML Feb 10 build) on OSX (latest): for a ~23GB recording (> 4GB+exFat), during playback the audio cuts out at 1:50; when encoding to ProRes it cuts out around the same time. The fully extracted .wav file is OK (4m30s). Full audio file matched video correctly in PPro CC.

CPU utilization shows ffmpeg running around 143% and the host app running at 97%. If there's any way to multithread deBayer, that would help speed up ProRes output (tested on 4-core MBP (late 2013- fast CPU option)). My 2010 MacPro 12-core with AE+ACR runs 1/4 real-time (full CPU utilization): I believe this MBP has faster CPUs and SSD, so I don't think the MacPro will run your tool faster (will test). Would be nice if this tool ran as fast or faster than ACR+AE :) (MlRawViewer is about 1/2 as fast currently).

The AMaZE deBayer looks very good- appears to do a better job than ACR (AHD variant?), especially on super high contrast edges (where ACR looks strange- color/edge issue).

Vertical line removal, denoise, and perhaps sharpening during deBayer would be nice to see (looks reasonably sharp as is, and sharpens OK in post; might be possible to get higher quality sharpening as part of deBayer step (e.g. ACR sharpening looks better than post sharpening).

A film-like highlight roll-off option would be more useful than the current tone-mapping option...

A command line option to allow direct converting to ProRes would allow for scripting/batching (tried calling the compiled exe from the shell- didn't work).

Your tool brings the 5D3 one step closer to being a (useful) baby Alexa 8)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 03, 2014, 07:48:52 PM
Thanks for the great feedback!

General comment: the bitbucket page has an issues list for defects and enhancements, and you can also vote up other issues already posted. See https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues)

Quote from: jcs on March 03, 2014, 06:22:41 AM
Testing with MLV and audio (ML Feb 10 build) on OSX (latest): for a ~23GB recording (> 4GB+exFat), during playback the audio cuts out at 1:50; when encoding to ProRes it cuts out around the same time. The fully extracted .wav file is OK (4m30s). Full audio file matched video correctly in PPro CC.

There are 2 wav files written. One has the name of the original MLV, and the other the name of the MOV. Were they both of the correct length?

Unfortunately my 7D doesn't support exFat, so I may have some problems reproducing this one, but I'll see what I can do.

Quote from: jcs on March 03, 2014, 06:22:41 AM
CPU utilization shows ffmpeg running around 143% and the host app running at 97%. If there's any way to multithread deBayer, that would help speed up ProRes output (tested on 4-core MBP (late 2013- fast CPU option)). My 2010 MacPro 12-core with AE+ACR runs 1/4 real-time (full CPU utilization): I believe this MBP has faster CPUs and SSD, so I don't think the MacPro will run your tool faster (will test). Would be nice if this tool ran as fast or faster than ACR+AE :) (MlRawViewer is about 1/2 as fast currently).

Linux uses OpenMP for this, but neither of the Mac or Win compilers I have support OpenMP for multithreading the AMaZE debayering. I hope to rework the multithreading in a later version so that it's cross platform and demosaicing is faster on multicore machines. Also there is one post processing step I can push to the GPU in most cases, which might speed it up slightly.

Quote from: jcs on March 03, 2014, 06:22:41 AM
The AMaZE deBayer looks very good- appears to do a better job than ACR (AHD variant?), especially on super high contrast edges (where ACR looks strange- color/edge issue).

Really?! That's interesting to hear. I haven't closely compared ACR output.

Quote from: jcs on March 03, 2014, 06:22:41 AM
Vertical line removal, denoise, and perhaps sharpening during deBayer would be nice to see (looks reasonably sharp as is, and sharpens OK in post; might be possible to get higher quality sharpening as part of deBayer step (e.g. ACR sharpening looks better than post sharpening).

Vertical line removal I will try to address in the future for sure, since I suffer a lot of that on 7D. Sharpening might be quite easy to add later. Denoise would be great, but may be too big a challenge to do well.

Quote from: jcs on March 03, 2014, 06:22:41 AM
A film-like highlight roll-off option would be more useful than the current tone-mapping option...

Much more flexible colour handling is a target for a future version.

Quote from: jcs on March 03, 2014, 06:22:41 AM
A command line option to allow direct converting to ProRes would allow for scripting/batching (tried calling the compiled exe from the shell- didn't work).

That should be posted to the issues list. I think there may be a few different users for that so it would be good to capture all the requirements for command line options different people would like.

Quote from: jcs on March 03, 2014, 06:22:41 AM
Your tool brings the 5D3 one step closer to being a (useful) baby Alexa 8)

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 03, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
Heads up: I had a go at 1.1.0 binary builds for Mac and Windows. See the top post of the thread for links: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165)

Headline feature is a real UI (with icons).

DNG sequences should now be playable on Mac.

I sneaked in IN/OUT marks, so encoding now uses the marked range rather than the current frame.

Please report problems to the bitbucket issues pages: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 03, 2014, 09:00:18 PM
Wow...awesome!!!

You rock.  8)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on March 03, 2014, 09:58:55 PM
Oh man, I, m on it, sweet!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 1% on March 03, 2014, 10:18:54 PM
why does it keep connecting to bit bucket?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 03, 2014, 10:24:19 PM
Quote from: 1% on March 03, 2014, 10:18:54 PM
why does it keep connecting to bit bucket?

To check if a newer binary release is available. If there is, it shows an update icon. It shouldn't check more than once a day though.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on March 03, 2014, 10:36:57 PM
hi baldand!

whow great. thank you.

i like the way the in and out points are set.. (would it be also possible to play the loop within those points?)

greets. rene
ps. so if it gets the batch queue and a possibility to extract dngs it would not only be the ultimate player but also the ultimate converter tool.

thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pilgrim on March 04, 2014, 02:36:28 AM
Hi baldand !

It's great work :)  It's really great  :) :) :)  Definitely the best.
It's works very well on Win7 64b and Mac 10.9.2 and the output quality is very good.
The icon on the screen is very nice, beautiful and it's very intuitive.
The colour box is very nice. It's a new think  ;) ... so we don't say colour wheel anymore now  ;)
The mark IN and OUT are very good, on the beginning I didn't see it clearly (on Win7) but later I seen more clearly on Mavericks, it's maybe also because my screen.

Thank you very much.

Here is my suggestion for next version :
Can we have a coordinate for the position correction on "colour box" : (x,y) for example  (12,7) ? Maybe not so far from the box, or even inside the box. In this way if we have some clips with the same scene, light, colour, etc we can make the same set correction. For the brighness control, maybe similar way, but for that at least I can remember how many time pressing the arrow up or down.
Maybe you already have other plan for that also, by the way.
Again, big thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jcs on March 04, 2014, 04:30:26 AM
Hi Andy!

M02-1932.WAV is full length (4:31)
M02-1932.MLV.MOV.WAV is short (1:51)

M02-1932.MLV is 23.6GB

Thanks!

New version looks cool- looking forward to getting more color/saturation/accuracy closer to ACR defaults and vertical-stripes-be-gone :)
Simple region-based threading might be easy to implement (rows at time etc.) to increase performance...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on March 04, 2014, 06:36:57 AM
Very cool!!Can somebody explain what the third icon from top does?Only the pattern needs fixing,after that no more adobe for me!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 04, 2014, 07:13:39 AM
Thanx for all your work on this app.

the play and pause icons seem backwards to me. i expect the pause icon to show while the clip is playing and the play icon to show when the  clip is paused. most app works like that.

when I click on the exe file, i expect the app to open up and nothing happens. i see that i can drop a file onto that exe and then it works. am i missing something on the way this works? i have mlv files in separate folders. do i have to copy and paste your exe to every mlv folder and then drag n drop on it? that seems to be a tedious way. isn't here a way to just open your app and then use an import function of some sort for single files? groups of files?

again, excuse my lack of understanding on this, but what else does the app do? It seems to only play back mlv raw files, some brightness control and color adjust. but then what? can i extract dng's? make prores proxies? i don't see any more menu items , drop downs or right click menus anywhere.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: andy kh on March 04, 2014, 07:44:33 AM
i could not use version 1.0.4. it dint work for me. this version 1.1.0 is fantastic. love it
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 04, 2014, 08:34:49 AM
Quote from: ouuzi on March 04, 2014, 06:36:57 AM
Very cool!!Can somebody explain what the third icon from top does?Only the pattern needs fixing,after that no more adobe for me!

When the icon is a clock it will try to play in real time, dropping frames if needed. This mode is needed for playing audio
When the icon is a frame, it will play all frames so you don't miss anything (useful for checking if any frames are bad). This mode cannot play audio.

When you say "pattern", do you mean fixed pattern noise, or stripes, pink dots? Or something else?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 04, 2014, 08:49:08 AM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 04, 2014, 07:13:39 AM
the play and pause icons seem backwards to me. i expect the pause icon to show while the clip is playing and the play icon to show when the  clip is paused. most app works like that.

I understand, as I had to think for a while when designing this.

The model I went for is for all icons to consistently show the current app state rather than another state you can get to by clicking that icon. That means the play icon shows the arrow when playing, not when paused.  It also means the icons can have more than two states (like the colour mapping).

Quote from: gary2013 link=topi:c=9560.msg104846#msg104846 date=1393913619
when I click on the exe file, i expect the app to open up and nothing happens. i see that i can drop a file onto that exe and then it works. am i missing something on the way this works? i have mlv files in separate folders. do i have to copy and paste your exe to every mlv folder and then drag n drop on it? that seems to be a tedious way. isn't here a way to just open your app and then use an import function of some sort for single files? groups of files?

On windows you should set the file associations for .MLV, .RAW and .DNG to the mlrawviewer.exe so that you can just click on the files to be opened automatically in the the viewer.

Make one copy of the MlRawViewer_1_1_0 directory, for instance in "c:\Program Files\"

Then find an example MLV/RAW/DNG file, right click, select "Open with" then "Choose default programs..." from the sub menu. Click "browse" on the dialog that opens, then find and select the mlrawviewer.exe.

In case this doesn't work for you (I've had problems in Win7), find the mlrawviewer.exe, right click and "Pin to taskbar", and drag the MLV/RAW/DNG file to the taskbar icon to teach Windows about the association. After that, you should be able to set the defaults.

Quote from: gary2013 link=topi:c=9560.msg104846#msg104846 date=1393913619
again, excuse my lack of understanding on this, but what else does the app do? It seems to only play back mlv raw files, some brightness control and color adjust. but then what? can i extract dng's? make prores proxies? i don't see any more menu items , drop downs or right click menus anywhere.

It's primarily a real time player for MLV/RAW/CDNG files, which does not require the files to be converted first.
It can also convert marked regions of the files to ProRes (click the red button or E key).

More features may come in later versions.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ouuzi on March 04, 2014, 10:07:25 AM
Quote from: baldand on March 04, 2014, 08:34:49 AM
When the icon is a clock it will try to play in real time, dropping frames if needed. This mode is needed for playing audio
When the icon is a frame, it will play all frames so you don't miss anything (useful for checking if any frames are bad). This mode cannot play audio.

When you say "pattern", do you mean fixed pattern noise, or stripes, pink dots? Or something else?
Stripes and pattern noise in shadow areas.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on March 04, 2014, 10:41:12 AM
Nice work Baldand! Really like this app more and more.
Questions. Anybody experienced problems with "unexpected error -10813" when trying to "change all" ponting to the app?
I,m on osx 10 mavericks on a macbook pro. I have older builds present as well but can,t seem to find any cache preferenses to clean. Maybe that,s what needed? Suggestions?
How do I play dng files by he way? Tried drag all of the to the app and also only the first one. Didn,t work.

*tried to "kill all" preferences and then open with but the app still doesn,t seems to be able to "change all" for a simplier workflow. Maybe not working on mac
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on March 04, 2014, 12:01:16 PM
Great tool,

noticed:
Sound play in sync when playing in the app, but after exporting to prores it looses sync.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 04, 2014, 09:07:36 PM
Quote from: DavidSh on March 04, 2014, 12:01:16 PM
Sound play in sync when playing in the app, but after exporting to prores it looses sync.

Thanks for the report. Some more information could be useful:
- Is it obviously out of sync from the start (offset), or does it get more out of sync as the file plays (stretched)?
- Have you tried playing the ProRes file with different players and see the same thing?
- If you process the same file with e.g. mlv_dump and some DNG tool, is it in sync without any manual offset?
- Did you convert the whole file, or just a marked subsection? Is it out of sync in both cases?
- Which camera was the file made with?

(You can use the V/B/N/M keys to slide the audio, but I know that's not ideal if every track is out of sync for you)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 04, 2014, 09:10:59 PM
Quote from: Danne on March 04, 2014, 10:41:12 AM
Questions. Anybody experienced problems with "unexpected error -10813" when trying to "change all" ponting to the app?
I,m on osx 10 mavericks on a macbook pro. I have older builds present as well but can,t seem to find any cache preferenses to clean. Maybe that,s what needed? Suggestions?
How do I play dng files by he way? Tried drag all of the to the app and also only the first one. Didn,t work.

*tried to "kill all" preferences and then open with but the app still doesn,t seems to be able to "change all" for a simplier workflow. Maybe not working on mac

Oh sounds bad. Have you tried moving or deleting the old versions of the tool? I'm not a heavy mac user, but this associating has been working for me with Mavericks, also with DNGs.

You should be able to drag one DNG file from a sequence onto the app icon, or doing "Open with". If that's not working, it may indicate another problem with the file associations or installation, since the app had to declare it handles .DNG files.

Maybe you should just delete all copies of MlRawViewer (including emptying the trash..) and reinstall 1.1.0?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 04, 2014, 09:33:55 PM
Quote from: baldand on March 04, 2014, 08:49:08 AM
I understand, as I had to think for a while when designing this.

The model I went for is for all icons to consistently show the current app state rather than another state you can get to by clicking that icon. That means the play icon shows the arrow when playing, not when paused.  It also means the icons can have more than two states (like the colour mapping).

On windows you should set the file associations for .MLV, .RAW and .DNG to the mlrawviewer.exe so that you can just click on the files to be opened automatically in the the viewer.

Make one copy of the MlRawViewer_1_1_0 directory, for instance in "c:\Program Files\"

Then find an example MLV/RAW/DNG file, right click, select "Open with" then "Choose default programs..." from the sub menu. Click "browse" on the dialog that opens, then find and select the mlrawviewer.exe.

In case this doesn't work for you (I've had problems in Win7), find the mlrawviewer.exe, right click and "Pin to taskbar", and drag the MLV/RAW/DNG file to the taskbar icon to teach Windows about the association. After that, you should be able to set the defaults.

It's primarily a real time player for MLV/RAW/CDNG files, which does not require the files to be converted first.
It can also convert marked regions of the files to ProRes (click the red button or E key).

More features may come in later versions.
thanx for the reply. about the play/pause icons, it is obvious that the clip is playing by seeing it playing in the window and the frame numbers are changing as it plays to also confirm it is playing. So, do we also need to see the play arrow icon to know if a clip is playing? :-)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 04, 2014, 09:41:09 PM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 04, 2014, 09:33:55 PM
thanx for the reply. about the play/pause icons, it is obvious that the clip is playing by seeing it playing in the window and the frame numbers are changing as it plays to also confirm it is playing. So, do we also need to see the play arrow icon to know if a clip is playing? :-)

Yes, for the play icon this is the case. But it isn't for the other state icons like frame dropping & colour mapping. Those need to show the current state. The design decision I made was for all the icons to consistently show the current state.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on March 04, 2014, 10:45:29 PM
Quote from: baldand on March 04, 2014, 09:10:59 PM
Oh sounds bad. Have you tried moving or deleting the old versions of the tool? I'm not a heavy mac user, but this associating has been working for me with Mavericks, also with DNGs.

You should be able to drag one DNG file from a sequence onto the app icon, or doing "Open with". If that's not working, it may indicate another problem with the file associations or installation, since the app had to declare it handles .DNG files.

Maybe you should just delete all copies of MlRawViewer (including emptying the trash..) and reinstall 1.1.0?

Thanks! Will do some more investigating. Tried on my computer at work. I will check my own computer when home. Just wanted to know whether or not it was possible or not to associate the files. Sounds promising and when it works it will be exactly the tool for a fast workflow I,ve been looking for.
Donationlink?
//D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on March 04, 2014, 11:14:29 PM
Quote from: baldand on March 04, 2014, 09:07:36 PM
Thanks for the report. Some more information could be useful:
- Is it obviously out of sync from the start (offset), or does it get more out of sync as the file plays (stretched)?
- Have you tried playing the ProRes file with different players and see the same thing?
- If you process the same file with e.g. mlv_dump and some DNG tool, is it in sync without any manual offset?
- Did you convert the whole file, or just a marked subsection? Is it out of sync in both cases?
- Which camera was the file made with?

(You can use the V/B/N/M keys to slide the audio, but I know that's not ideal if every track is out of sync for you)

Thanks for answering.
-out of sync from the start.
-Played in vlc, Quicktime.
-didnt try
-out of sync on both cases
- 600d, last night build, sandisk 95mbs.

Cheers
David
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on March 04, 2014, 11:52:31 PM
Quote from: baldand on March 04, 2014, 09:07:36 PM

- If you process the same file with e.g. mlv_dump and some DNG tool, is it in sync without any manual offset?

export to dng using mlv_dump
import to ae cs6
import wav to ae cs6
wav looks a bit shorter from video on the timeline
export with sound

came out of sync.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 05, 2014, 02:27:49 AM
Quote from: baldand on March 04, 2014, 09:41:09 PM
Yes, for the play icon this is the case. But it isn't for the other state icons like frame dropping & colour mapping. Those need to show the current state. The design decision I made was for all the icons to consistently show the current state.
So, the button with the arrow icon indicates the clip is playing, as well as we can see it is playing and the frames numbers are changing at the bottom. What icon do we now click on to make it stop since there is nothing that shows this? Anyone else who knows the answer cannot reply.  :) And, when the clip is paused and the well known symbol for pause is showing (a box usually means to stop), what icon do we click on to make it play the clip since there is nothing that shows indicating play?  :)

I am just trying to point out some logic and what is intuitive. Keep up the good work. Many people, and my self appreciate, what you are doing.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: naturalsound on March 06, 2014, 10:59:16 PM
Works like a charm :-)
Also the freezing problem:
Quote from: naturalsound on February 16, 2014, 07:53:32 PM
Thanks for the quick reply.

mlrawviewer is running as 2 threads. Both close when I hit ESC.
I am currently downloading the newest driver ...was really surprised that my current one is more than one year old. I will update this post with my results.

UPDATE:
- newest ATI driver installed: Still a pink frame and still the black window.
- I noticed that the black window does not appear when I drop the same MLV file on mlrawviewer again. It only happens with different files. Btw I have version 1.0.4 _alpha32 from the .zip as I can not build it on my own from the repository.
is now gone!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on March 07, 2014, 01:40:21 AM
This is wonderful! Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on March 07, 2014, 10:21:15 AM
@baldand

This app is fast becoming a thing of beauty to use – as well as functionally great! Thanks soo much! :)

Mac 10.7.5
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on March 07, 2014, 02:07:43 PM
Hi all! Could people using mac confirm that "change all" for use with latest MLRawviewer is working on their computer using osx mavericks? When I,m trying all I get is an errorcode -10813 and all I get changed is the one file I want to open automatically with Mlrawviewer. Tried on two computers with no success.
Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: noix222 on March 08, 2014, 06:37:18 AM
great app!!! really liked... its possible to export more than one file at one time to prores?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on March 08, 2014, 09:24:31 AM
Hi!
My solution to get the file association working on mac is now working. Not by right clicking and choosing change all but by doing following:
- Select all .raw and .mlv files and right click. Then press option(alt) key. Choose "always open with" and choose  the app. This gives no errorcode.
Sweet!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mrterpstra on March 10, 2014, 06:18:55 AM
I just tried to run this app and it crashes on loading. I'm on OSX 10.9.2 on a current gen Macbook Pro retina 15" with 750M Nvidia card. Let me know if there's a fix. Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on March 10, 2014, 07:29:00 AM
Quote from: mrterpstra on March 10, 2014, 06:18:55 AM
I just tried to run this app and it crashes on loading. I'm on OSX 10.9.2 on a current gen Macbook Pro retina 15" with 750M Nvidia card. Let me know if there's a fix. Thanks.

The complete lack of information you provide is incredibly helpful.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.0 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on March 10, 2014, 08:59:10 AM
Quote from: mrterpstra on March 10, 2014, 06:18:55 AM
I just tried to run this app and it crashes on loading. I'm on OSX 10.9.2 on a current gen Macbook Pro retina 15" with 750M Nvidia card. Let me know if there's a fix. Thanks.
I run the same setup. Works great. You do know you have to drag/drop the file onto the app?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 10, 2014, 10:22:39 AM
1.1.2 is now available for Mac and Win: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165)

This includes a couple of new features:

1. Drag and drop MLV/RAW/DNG files to the existing player window to play the new video. Drag a WAV file to play with the current video.

2. *EXPERIMENTAL* DNG export as alternative to MOV.
To use DNG export, click the MOV/DNG icon to say DNG, or press D. Then press E or the red button to export the current marked range to a target directory. DNG exports are added to a queue which is processed immediately. There can be multiple items in the queue either from the same file or different files. A WAV file is created in the same directory as the DNG sequence.
The DNGs are currently light on metadata and always claim to be 25FPS. I will add more detailed and correct metadata in a later release. Please let me know if you have any need for any specific tags in the DNGs.
To set the target directory press W. The setting is persisted so you don't need to set it every time if you always use the same one.

3. If you run the program without giving it a file, it will not launch a file dialog asking you to choose one. This avoids the problem many had seen where the app could not be run just by clicking on it. Contributed by ItsMeLenny

4. Mark setting logic has been slightly refined - when you try to move the current range you can set the new marks in any order.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nick.p on March 10, 2014, 10:38:53 AM
It would be awesome if you could include a JPEG preview for those people on mac 10.9 mavericks. Not entirely sure how that works
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 10, 2014, 11:15:32 AM
i have the latest win 7 ver 1.1.2. Is it just me or is anyone else having trouble reading the new mov/dng icon? I have yo lean in closer to read it all the time.  :) Can you make the text whiter and a little larger? The other items are easy to see since the are bigger simple graphic symbols.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: andy kh on March 10, 2014, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 10, 2014, 11:15:32 AM
i have the latest win 7 ver 1.1.2. Is it just me or is anyone else having trouble reading the new mov/dng icon? I have yo lean in closer to read it all the time.  :) Can you make the text whiter and a little larger? The other items are easy to see since the are bigger simple graphic symbols.

i dont have that problem.  my pro is i cant see the mark In and Out white bar clearly when i play clips that i shoot in bright sunlight.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 10, 2014, 11:27:22 AM
Quote from: andy kh on March 10, 2014, 11:24:05 AM
i dont have that problem.  my pro is i cant see the mark In and Out white bar clearly when i play clips that i shoot in bright sunlight.

Ouch. A workaround for now would be to reduce the brightness of the clip while you are marking. I'll try to give the mark bar more contrast in a later release.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 10, 2014, 11:28:11 AM
Quote from: nick.p on March 10, 2014, 10:38:53 AM
It would be awesome if you could include a JPEG preview for those people on mac 10.9 mavericks. Not entirely sure how that works

Do you mean thumbnails in the individual DNG files, or something else?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 10, 2014, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 10, 2014, 11:15:32 AM
i have the latest win 7 ver 1.1.2. Is it just me or is anyone else having trouble reading the new mov/dng icon? I have yo lean in closer to read it all the time.  :) Can you make the text whiter and a little larger? The other items are easy to see since the are bigger simple graphic symbols.

Yes, I think you are right there. Plus there is not much other difference between the 2 states. I'll try to improve that in the next release.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nick.p on March 10, 2014, 11:34:09 AM

Quote from: baldand on March 10, 2014, 11:28:11 AM
Do you mean thumbnails in the individual DNG files, or something else?
Yeah, essentially the option found in the adobe dng converter.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on March 10, 2014, 12:50:10 PM

Good work Baldand =))
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on March 10, 2014, 01:50:15 PM
Quote from: nick.p on March 10, 2014, 11:34:09 AM
Yeah, essentially the option found in the adobe dng converter.

People don't know what that means, you have to provide examples.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: RenStarFilm on March 10, 2014, 03:06:16 PM
I love the fact that it now has thumbnails so i cant see what DNG file I'm working with!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on March 10, 2014, 03:20:34 PM
Good work man!

Great tool.
You really take post and on set preview to other level.

noticed:
mouse cursor disappear after resize application window.

Mac OS Mavrickis.
Title: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on March 10, 2014, 03:32:50 PM
Anamorphic desqueeze would be a very great addon ;)

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/38/desqueeze-anamorphic-material-with-ratio
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jose_ugs on March 10, 2014, 06:28:22 PM
@swinxx... which is a good reminder to add this:
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/39/50-60fps-squashed-mode
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 10, 2014, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: baldand on March 10, 2014, 10:22:39 AM
2. *EXPERIMENTAL* DNG export as alternative to MOV.


This is really fantastic, thank you so much!

However, as you move forward on refining this, could I lobby you to consider CDNG instead of regular DNG? The reason why is that Adobe is likely about to fully support CDNG in Premiere Pro, and thanks to Blackmagic it's quickly becoming the de-facto standard for raw video files. My understanding is that the difference between DNG and CDNG is just in the header information which includes specific information as it relates to video.

Right now, on the Mac, there is a need for some sort of .mlv to CDNG solution since none of the current apps can do it. It would be a fantastic option to have MLRawViewer do it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 10, 2014, 07:00:56 PM
Quote from: Midphase on March 10, 2014, 06:46:54 PM
However, as you move forward on refining this, could I lobby you to consider CDNG instead of regular DNG? The reason why is that Adobe is likely about to fully support CDNG in Premiere Pro, and thanks to Blackmagic it's quickly becoming the de-facto standard for raw video files. My understanding is that the difference between DNG and CDNG is just in the header information which includes specific information as it relates to video.

Of course. I don't see any reason not to aim for making CDNG-compatible DNG sequences. I already set the FrameRate tag from the CDNG spec, and IIRC there are only 3 other (optional) tags there that might be needed.

(DNGs embedded in MXF files  - the alternate format of CDNG - is a totally different story I won't be doing that.)

@midphase could I ask you (or somebody else) to try out the DNG sequences being produced currently in Premiere Pro (which I don't have access to) and tell me what doesn't work or what needs adding? I've already tested in Resolve 10 and After Effects and they seem to import the sequences ok.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: aace on March 10, 2014, 07:36:12 PM
Is there a change log I can reference somewhere? I'm trying to keep track of the progress of this app. Which is awesome by the way.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on March 10, 2014, 07:37:47 PM
 
Quote from: baldand on March 10, 2014, 07:00:56 PM
@midphase could I ask you (or somebody else) to try out the DNG sequences being produced currently in Premiere Pro (which I don't have access to) and tell me what doesn't work or what needs adding? I've already tested in Resolve 10 and After Effects and they seem to import the sequences ok.

You get an error message after importing, saying:
The file appears to have no media data.

Premiere do not know how to handle DNG, only CDNG

Hope it helps...

Best
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: andy kh on March 10, 2014, 07:51:20 PM
yeah premiere doesnt support dng files
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: chmee on March 10, 2014, 07:55:01 PM
@baldand
the mystery behind cdng for premiere are not really the cdng-tags, but debiasing and maximizing values. possibly the delinearizationtable from bmcc-files can help. AND: of course the dng-files should be converted to 16, 12 or 10bit, because 14bit is no typical video-bitdepth, only supported by resolve (and acr as a photo->converter)

https://infogr.am/bmcc-delinearization-curve?src=web
and
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.msg105445#msg105445

regards chmee
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on March 11, 2014, 12:45:06 AM
Quote from: aace on March 10, 2014, 07:36:12 PM
Is there a change log I can reference somewhere? I'm trying to keep track of the progress of this app. Which is awesome by the way.

All changes https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/commits/all
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 11, 2014, 02:03:47 AM
Quote from: DavidSh on March 10, 2014, 03:20:34 PM
noticed:
mouse cursor disappear after resize application window.

I also saw that happen here yesterday trying the latest 1.1.2 ver on my win 7.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 11, 2014, 07:10:50 AM
Quote from: chmee on March 10, 2014, 07:55:01 PM
@baldand
the mystery behind cdng for premiere are not really the cdng-tags, but debiasing and maximizing values. possibly the delinearizationtable from bmcc-files can help. AND: of course the dng-files should be converted to 16, 12 or 10bit, because 14bit is no typical video-bitdepth, only supported by resolve (and acr as a photo->converter)

https://infogr.am/bmcc-delinearization-curve?src=web
and
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.msg105445#msg105445

regards chmee

Thanks chmee. That should be enough info for me to work out what's needed for Premiere. I expect it's the 14bit data. I can easily make an option to pad to 16bit (though that will waste disk space)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: KMA_WWC on March 11, 2014, 07:55:04 AM
Baldand, this is quickly turning into an ultimate tool for ML users. Just want to say huge thanks for both making this awesome software and supporting it. Many people started, but many never finished and left their creations raw and unusable (I'm talking about some converters on this forum). Besides fixing bugs you add new features. Incredible! I really appreciate your, devs and simple user contribution work on this forum.

Keep up the great work and can't wait for CDNG 16bit format option.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on March 11, 2014, 08:08:20 AM

Yes indeed. Some app that do the conversion  from MLV to CDNG and import directly to Premiere will be the ultimate tool !!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MA Visuals on March 11, 2014, 08:25:49 AM
When I use the "A" key to desqueeze my 1920 x 672 (60p) footage, the 1.4x de-squeeze is not enough to reach a vertical height of 1080.  I believe you would need a 1.61 (1.6072 to be more precise) vertical stretch in order to bring the vertical height from 672 to 1080.  Would it be possible for you to add 1.61 as another vertical stretch factor when toggling using the "A" key?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ATP on March 11, 2014, 10:59:42 AM
Wow, what an amazing update Baldand  8)!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on March 11, 2014, 11:00:52 AM
Quote from: MA Visuals on March 11, 2014, 08:25:49 AM
When I use the "A" key to desqueeze my 1920 x 672 (60p) footage, the 1.4x de-squeeze is not enough to reach a vertical height of 1080.  I believe you would need a 1.61 (1.6072 to be more precise) vertical stretch in order to bring the vertical height from 672 to 1080.  Would it be possible for you to add 1.61 as another vertical stretch factor when toggling using the "A" key?

The problem here is it would change between cameras. (Replying as I was the one who put it in, and I based it off the squeeze that the camera claimed).
Let's work it out :P






CameraMax 1080Max 720Squeeze
5d31920x12801920x6721.9x
6D1808x12161792x568?wat
650D1728x11501728x6941.657x
7,60,600,550D1728x11561728x6941.66x

well in that case, it probably should be 1.6x. No idea who suggested 1.4x (maybe it said it in camera), i was just doing what the people wanted!!!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 11, 2014, 06:50:12 PM
Quote from: baldand on March 11, 2014, 07:10:50 AM
Thanks chmee. That should be enough info for me to work out what's needed for Premiere. I expect it's the 14bit data. I can easily make an option to pad to 16bit (though that will waste disk space)

That's the way RAWMagic handles it, but despite all the CDNG files being 16bit, Premiere still reads the files wrongly (they will import and playback, but there is a nasty pink overcast on all the footage which makes it kinda unusable).

Something is going on with the way Premiere is reading files generated by the Blackmagic Cameras vs. the files generated by ML CDNG.

PM me if you want me to give you some Blackmagic CDNG files to study.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: andy kh on March 11, 2014, 06:54:30 PM
Quote from: Midphase on March 11, 2014, 06:50:12 PM
That's the way RAWMagic handles it, but despite all the CDNG files being 16bit, Premiere still reads the files wrongly (they will import and playback, but there is a nasty pink overcast on all the footage which makes it kinda unusable).

Something is going on with the way Premiere is reading files generated by the Blackmagic Cameras vs. the files generated by ML CDNG.

PM me if you want me to give you some Blackmagic CDNG files to study.

problem solved with raw2cdng
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: a1ex on March 11, 2014, 07:06:43 PM
Quote from: ItsMeLenny on March 11, 2014, 11:00:52 AM

5d31920x12801920x6721.9x

Wrong. LiveView coverage at 1080p is not identical to 720p, and the exact behavior is camera-specific.

Some better approximations are here, but I can't bet on them: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6215
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 11, 2014, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: Midphase on March 11, 2014, 06:50:12 PM
That's the way RAWMagic handles it, but despite all the CDNG files being 16bit, Premiere still reads the files wrongly (they will import and playback, but there is a nasty pink overcast on all the footage which makes it kinda unusable).

Something is going on with the way Premiere is reading files generated by the Blackmagic Cameras vs. the files generated by ML CDNG.

PM me if you want me to give you some Blackmagic CDNG files to study.

I got hold of PremierePro for testing and I have the basics working now thanks to chmee's tips. All that was needed was 16bit DNG, a non-default LinearizationTable (PP seems to need this even though it *should* be optional - surely Adobe's bug) and BlackLevel/WhiteLevel tags to be Short instead of Long (another Adobe bug - both Long and Short are allowed in the DNG spec).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: chmee on March 11, 2014, 09:27:08 PM
the dng-support in premiere is a shame - its fixed on bmcc files. so best would be converting to 12bit/log (with the inverted table i linked) and leaving reconvertion to 16bit inside premiere with the same delinearizationtable..

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 11, 2014, 09:42:07 PM
Quote from: chmee on March 11, 2014, 09:27:08 PM
the dng-support in premiere is a shame - its fixed on bmcc files. so best would be converting to 12bit/log (with the inverted table i linked) and leaving reconvertion to 16bit inside premiere with the same delinearizationtable..

Actually it seemed to work fine for me with the changes I listed. There was no need for any actual data conversion apart from the cheap and lossless 14->16bit padding. The LinearizationTable I made was just integer values from 0 to 2^14-1, so, still linear. 
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 1% on March 11, 2014, 09:45:45 PM
I still get pink/dark/awful DNGs in premiere. It really sucks and destroys the point of raw. The AE-> to premiere looks much much better. Also I tried premiere CC and the AE-CS6 projects don't work there. So you need AECC for premiere CC.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: chmee on March 11, 2014, 10:10:24 PM
@baldand
for me as well - make a test with (real) strong highlights, i get pinkish inside them. i mean really outside the normal white :) does your table behave stable?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 1% on March 11, 2014, 11:36:08 PM
My dngs are coming out Canon EOS instead of canon EOS 7D. Also 2 files got stuck converting... I tried to run a bunch of MLrawviewers at once, bad idea.

Changing the tag with exiftool gui causes a lockup after a certain number of files, gah. Its > ~420 files, exiftool hangs, then gui hangs.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 12, 2014, 07:28:40 AM
Quote from: 1% on March 11, 2014, 11:36:08 PM
My dngs are coming out Canon EOS instead of canon EOS 7D. Also 2 files got stuck converting... I tried to run a bunch of MLrawviewers at once, bad idea.

Changing the tag with exiftool gui causes a lockup after a certain number of files, gah. Its > ~420 files, exiftool hangs, then gui hangs.

Re the model, I have put the correct make/model writing into git (however I have a personal problem - most of my MLVs made with TL for 7D have "Failed to get properties." as the model name  :'(

I wouldn't recommend multiple DNG exports from different mlrawviewer instances at the same time unless they are all using different disks for both read and write (or if the read disks together would be much slower than the write disk).The operation is mostly disk I/O bound because it uses different threads for reading and writing. Because of that it should work best when the read & write disks are different. Of course if you are converting between 2 fast SSDs it might become CPU bound.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: sarotaz on March 12, 2014, 12:15:42 PM
baldand can you integrate the code posted by escho here http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9700.msg98302#msg98302 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9700.msg98302#msg98302) for dng extraction? This tool removes cold pixel usefull in Davinci Resolve workflow with some cameras (like 60D) affected by this problem.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 1% on March 12, 2014, 05:27:16 PM
mlv to cdng showed the correct FPS and cam name. ml raw viewer cut it off at Canon EOS
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kolumban on March 14, 2014, 02:36:02 PM
Very cool ,
:)
A light in the tunnel of handling MLV  files !
I hope you find a way  to make this beautiful piece  of software  able to make batch processing.
If there is a way to contribute  let me know
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jose_ugs on March 15, 2014, 10:11:59 AM
@ baldand, could you add the keyboard keys functions to your first post please? somewhere at the end of your first post, for example :)... The way you have them in your Readme file(archive) gives a much easier view of which does what.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on March 15, 2014, 10:41:11 AM
And please a mouse fly over info bar.. With the keystroke and a short explanation whats what.. Thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: thisisentourage on March 16, 2014, 12:51:26 AM
I shot a video on the Canon 50D.
I played it off the cf reader and the playback was smooth.

Now that I took the files off the cf card and put them on a hard drive, the play back is slow, skipping, and lagging.

I Downloaded
Mlrawviewer
Ffmpeg
And the Python 2.7 code added on the 1st page...

Now, in lament terms, how do I get this functional?

U guys are all extremely knowledgeable based off what I'm reading in the forum.
I'm 4 months new to ML Software and 4 days in this forum.

So. Really do apologize if my inquiries come off appearing to sound basic.

Thank you everyone for your help.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: frakas1 on March 16, 2014, 06:16:34 PM
hi Guys,

I start to use mlraw viewer to export to .mov,its worked perfectly.
since yesterday,its impossible to export anymore,the program freeze or crashes.
In the meantime I changed the preset on camera,and installed some program on the mac,like raw2dng.Since it doesnt work I re-install Mlraw viewer but no better.
I use a macbook air last version,I was wondering if its something to do with CPU?
the files to convert are on the local SSD and I try from an USB3 HDD.
the export button sometimes is vivid red,sometimes I cant click it,any case nothing exports.
Also when I play the mlv,it freeze after 3-4 seconds...Any help is welcome,cheers!

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 16, 2014, 10:13:20 PM
Quote from: frakas1 on March 16, 2014, 06:16:34 PM
hi Guys,

I start to use mlraw viewer to export to .mov,its worked perfectly.
since yesterday,its impossible to export anymore,the program freeze or crashes.
In the meantime I changed the preset on camera,and installed some program on the mac,like raw2dng.Since it doesnt work I re-install Mlraw viewer but no better.
I use a macbook air last version,I was wondering if its something to do with CPU?
the files to convert are on the local SSD and I try from an USB3 HDD.
the export button sometimes is vivid red,sometimes I cant click it,any case nothing exports.
Also when I play the mlv,it freeze after 3-4 seconds...Any help is welcome,cheers!

If you are using 1.1.2, check your target directory is valid -> Press W key to bring up the target directory or choose a new one.
Also if you want MOV exports, make sure the "MOV" icon is displayed, not the "DNG" icon.

If nothing else works, you could try deleting the hidden directory ".mlrawviewer" in your home directory and see if that helps.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 16, 2014, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: thisisentourage on March 16, 2014, 12:51:26 AM
I shot a video on the Canon 50D.
I played it off the cf reader and the playback was smooth.

Now that I took the files off the cf card and put them on a hard drive, the play back is slow, skipping, and lagging.

It might help to have a few more details:
- What kind of computer you have (ago, CPU, GPU, memory, hard disk size & interface type - IDE or SATA)
- Is the card reader USB2 or USB3?
- What resolution and frame rate are you recording at?

It sounds as though your hard disk could be slow at reading for some reason. The needed read speed depends on the video resolution and frame rate, but if you have less than 50Mbyte/second reads speed, you can experience the symptoms you describe.

Another possibility could be too little RAM, e.g. causing the system to use swap files, though that seems less likely if it works from card reader ok.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 16, 2014, 10:25:00 PM
Quote from: jose_ugs on March 15, 2014, 10:11:59 AM
@ baldand, could you add the keyboard keys functions to your first post please? somewhere at the end of your first post, for example :)... The way you have them in your Readme file(archive) gives a much easier view of which does what.

Done now.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: StefanKeller.AC on March 16, 2014, 10:42:43 PM
great prog, thx !!!
can it run on Android?  8)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on March 16, 2014, 11:59:32 PM
Quote from: StefanKeller.AC on March 16, 2014, 10:42:43 PM
can it run on Android?  8)
It can if you port it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 17, 2014, 09:20:58 PM
1.1.3 now available


See top post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on March 17, 2014, 10:01:25 PM
Quote from: baldand on March 17, 2014, 09:20:58 PM
1.1.3 now available


  • Now exports 16bit DNGs with per-frame metadata. Should directly import into PremierePro as well as Resolve/AE.
  • S key switches between different anamorphic squeeze ratios (viewing only)
  • MOV/DNG icon made clearer
  • Mark line red instead of white so it shows up in bright scenes

See top post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165)
As always... Great!
import well to pp (regular wb issue)
mouse cursor still disappear on mac

Thank you for this beautiful software...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MA Visuals on March 17, 2014, 11:29:11 PM
I just tried the new version 1.1.3 of MlRawViewer, exported a couple of DNG sequences, and then imported the DNG sequences into Premiere Pro CC.  Unfortunately, the highlights are pink, making footage unusable in Premiere unless there are no strong highlights in the footage.  I tried both MLV and RAW files and both had the same issue.  I can send you sample DNGs exhibiting this issue if you find it useful to your development.  You are soooo close to providing a post processing tool that allows working directly with the DNGs in Premiere.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 18, 2014, 07:44:54 AM
Quote from: MA Visuals on March 17, 2014, 11:29:11 PM
I just tried the new version 1.1.3 of MlRawViewer, exported a couple of DNG sequences, and then imported the DNG sequences into Premiere Pro CC.  Unfortunately, the highlights are pink, making footage unusable in Premiere unless there are no strong highlights in the footage.  I tried both MLV and RAW files and both had the same issue.  I can send you sample DNGs exhibiting this issue if you find it useful to your development.  You are soooo close to providing a post processing tool that allows working directly with the DNGs in Premiere.

I know about the pink highlights. As I understand chmee is also seeing similar results with his raw2cdng and Premiere.

The same files works fine in ACR and Resolve. In an overexposed area (with at least one channel - usually green first - clipped) I see those tools reconstructing highlight detail as white levels. In MlRawViewer itself, I take a slightly different approach to try and recover some of the original colour in the highlight areas (though that depends on having the right white balance for the highlight).

Premiere appears to suffer a similar problem that MlRawViewer had before it had highlight recovery - the white balance colour correction is applied afterwards so the clipped channel(s) take on the wrong colour. This is usually pink/magenta if green was clipped. 

Reconstructing the raw data is the task of the tool reading the DNG files. In this case, MlRawViewer is not doing anything to the original raw bayer data apart from padding it with 2 zero high bits and writing it to a series of DNGs with the correct black and white levels, along with other meta data taken from the MLV file if available.

To me, it's appears the problem is with Premiere's highlight reconstruction and white balance. But since that's a tool you are paying money for, you shouldn't have any trouble raising the defect with the developer and getting it quickly fixed. Right? ;-)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MA Visuals on March 18, 2014, 08:32:55 AM
I always suspected that it would ultimately require Adobe to fix this on their end.  Thank you for your thoughtful explanation.  It seems the most practical method of post processing for Premiere users then would be then to export to ProRes using your Log curve, and then import into Premiere.  Well at least that will be my preferred workflow unless the pink highlight issue is eventually solved.  Just a few questions....

-Will the ProRes exports eventually support queuing just like DNGs? 
-Is the brightness control equivalent to an exposure control?
-Just wondering why there is no Tungsten white balance option.  Also, it may be too much to ask, but would it be possible to add a white balance eyedropper/picker such as found in ACR, etc. to make it easier to find the correct white balance?

Anyway, terrific progress on your tool.  So professionally developed and very efficient and refined.  Much respect.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: sarotaz on March 18, 2014, 08:57:36 AM
Quote from: baldand on March 17, 2014, 09:20:58 PM
1.1.3 now available


  • Now exports 16bit DNGs with per-frame metadata. Should directly import into PremierePro as well as Resolve/AE.
  • S key switches between different anamorphic squeeze ratios (viewing only)
  • MOV/DNG icon made clearer
  • Mark line red instead of white so it shows up in bright scenes

See top post: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165)

GREAT JOB!!! this version resolves the bad pixel problem in Davinci Resolve importing (cdng) with some camera. (60D)
Thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 18, 2014, 09:00:18 AM
Quote from: sarotaz on March 18, 2014, 08:57:36 AM
GREAT JOB!!! this version resolves the bad pixel problem in Davinci Resolve importing (cdng) with some camera. (60D)
Thanks.  ;D

That's good to hear! There is a very simple dead pixel detection/hiding I put in a while ago when I was doing something with raw from a 60D. I'm glad it's still working.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: sarotaz on March 18, 2014, 09:09:05 AM
Quote from: baldand on March 18, 2014, 09:00:18 AM
That's good to hear! There is a very simple dead pixel detection/hiding I put in a while ago when I was doing something with raw from a 60D. I'm glad it's still working.

In old version 1.1.2 i've tested but bad pixel still exist. This is the news of the day man. I was waiting this fix since raw shooting is released.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 18, 2014, 09:15:31 AM
Quote from: MA Visuals on March 18, 2014, 08:32:55 AM
It seems the most practical method of post processing for Premiere users then would be then to export to ProRes using your Log curve, and then import into Premiere.  Well at least that will be my preferred workflow unless the pink highlight issue is eventually solved. 

It's quite a shame, especially since Premiere is so close to handling the DNGs as-is.

Quote from: MA Visuals on March 18, 2014, 08:32:55 AM
-Will the ProRes exports eventually support queuing just like DNGs? 

I would like to do this change so that the export queue can accept any kind of job and it runs independently of the currently viewed file. But it may involve quite a change to get the OpenGL processing pipeline running either in a separate hidden window or offscreen buffers, so I'm not sure how long it will take or if it will work.

Quote from: MA Visuals on March 18, 2014, 08:32:55 AM
-Is the brightness control equivalent to an exposure control?

It's just a global multiplier. The visual bar is in log space to give it a wide effective range. So it is effectively an exposure control.

Quote from: MA Visuals on March 18, 2014, 08:32:55 AM
-Just wondering why there is no Tungsten white balance option.  Also, it may be too much to ask, but would it be possible to add a white balance eyedropper/picker such as found in ACR, etc. to make it easier to find the correct white balance?

The whole colour & white balance area needs much more work. It probably should be converting into a standard colour space using the camera matrices, but it currently doesn't. A dropper and/or auto white balance algorithm, temperature/tint sliders, sRGB output, and LUTs could all be useful. These are all possible tasks for the future.

Quote from: MA Visuals on March 18, 2014, 08:32:55 AM
Anyway, terrific progress on your tool.  So professionally developed and very efficient and refined.  Much respect.

Thanks! :-)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 18, 2014, 09:17:08 AM
Quote from: sarotaz on March 18, 2014, 09:09:05 AM
In old version 1.1.2 i've tested but bad pixel still exist. This is the news of the day man. I was waiting this fix since raw shooting is released.

Oh I understand now. In 1.1.2 I was copying 14bit raw data as is to the DNG. But 1.1.3 has to unpack it to 16bit with MlRawViewer's usual unpacking code which it uses for display. So this new version inherited the bad pixel fixing code also. Useful!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: OObner on March 18, 2014, 07:14:25 PM
Finally!
Bad pixels gone from 60D footage!
Heaven!
(I'm getting emotional now, I know)

Please don't make it disappear! please!

Only one thing need to perfection - batch conversion from the GUI.
This is all I ask.

Great Job!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Frank7D on March 19, 2014, 03:53:14 AM
Using 1.1.3 on a pc.
Hitting "W" key does nothing (I expected to select a directory).

Edit: I guess because I'm on Windows Vista?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 19, 2014, 06:45:34 AM
Quote from: Frank7D on March 19, 2014, 03:53:14 AM
Using 1.1.3 on a pc.
Hitting "W" key does nothing (I expected to select a directory).

Edit: I guess because I'm on Windows Vista?

Vista hasn't been tested, but I would expect it to work OK.

If you run MlRawViewer without giving it a video file, do you see a file selector then? If you can supply an "mlrawviewer.log" file from when you pressed W that might show something.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 19, 2014, 10:38:33 AM
I am using MlRawViewer 1.1.3 . Is there anyway to select which version of ProRes we can use use for a proxy export? Which version is it currently using? 444, HQ, etc.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 19, 2014, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 19, 2014, 10:38:33 AM
I am using MlRawViewer 1.1.3 . Is there anyway to select which version of ProRes we can use use for a proxy export? Which version is it currently using? 444, HQ, etc.

At the moment it is fixed. The ffmpeg argument currently is "-vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 3". The colour format that uses is YUV444 10bit. The quality is quite high, and of course it's using (slow/expensive) AMaZE for demosaicing.

Fast/lower quality proxies is not a feature that anyone has requested to the enhancements list: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 19, 2014, 05:34:06 PM
Quote from: baldand on March 19, 2014, 04:38:39 PM
Fast/lower quality proxies is not a feature that anyone has requested to the enhancements list: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues)

If you can figure out the whole CDNG Premiere Pro thing, I'm not sure proxies would be even needed (assuming that other NLE's will also support CDNG).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 19, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
Quote from: Midphase on March 19, 2014, 05:34:06 PM
If you can figure out the whole CDNG Premiere Pro thing, I'm not sure proxies would be even needed (assuming that other NLE's will also support CDNG).

Do you mean the pink highlights? It sounds like @chmee may have found a solution for those. If so, I'm curious to hear what it is.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 19, 2014, 06:28:32 PM
Yeah, the pink highlights. Kudos to get it this close though...it's working quite well for me (aside the pesky pink highlights).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Frank7D on March 20, 2014, 12:53:23 AM
Quote from: baldand on March 19, 2014, 06:45:34 AM
Vista hasn't been tested, but I would expect it to work OK.

If you run MlRawViewer without giving it a video file, do you see a file selector then? If you can supply an "mlrawviewer.log" file from when you pressed W that might show something.

It's working fine now. I may have been using the wrong version (file association issue). Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 20, 2014, 02:01:41 AM
Quote from: baldand on March 19, 2014, 04:38:39 PM
At the moment it is fixed. The ffmpeg argument currently is "-vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 3". The colour format that uses is YUV444 10bit. The quality is quite high, and of course it's using (slow/expensive) AMaZE for demosaicing.

Fast/lower quality proxies is not a feature that anyone has requested to the enhancements list: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues)
thanx. I wanted to use the highest quality prores.

Keep up the good work. this is a great app.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nandoide on March 20, 2014, 09:17:08 AM
Hi, baldand. With several fps overrides on source, for instance 36 fps on no crop mode over 1080p canon video mode (RAW or MLV), the resulting movs are NOK (the video flickers up and down). I think that it's not able to guess the source fps. The  DNG's are OK.

Perhaps it's not the solution, but in either case it will be useful that we can choose the mov fps (source, 24, 25, 30, 48, 60) for instance.

Another handy improvement will be that if we are viewing in anamorphic unsquetched(A), and we save to mov, the mov saved would be unsquetched also.

I've tested from a Canon 6D and 1.1.3 over Mac OSX.

Very good work!!!! Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 20, 2014, 08:55:05 PM
Quote from: nandoide on March 20, 2014, 09:17:08 AM
Hi, baldand. With several fps overrides on source, for instance 36 fps on no crop mode over 1080p canon video mode (RAW or MLV), the resulting movs are NOK (the video flickers up and down). I think that it's not able to guess the source fps. The  DNG's are OK.

Thanks. I'll try to reproduce this and work out what's going wrong.

Re anamorphic - I wouldn't like to rescale the source material, but maybe there is something that can be done with pixel aspect ratio metadata?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 20, 2014, 09:09:46 PM
Here's a simple one:

Just about every NLE software out there uses the shortcuts I and O to set the in and out points. I think using those keys for those familiar assignments might make your app a bit more intuitive for people used to working in FCP or Premiere?

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DitOnTheLoose on March 24, 2014, 02:22:08 PM
PLS can we have a Frameexport to high quality JPEG without overlays on button press? That would be awesome!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on March 24, 2014, 02:32:04 PM
Quote from: DitOnTheLoose on March 24, 2014, 02:22:08 PM
PLS can we have a Frameexport to high quality JPEG without overlays on button press? That would be awesome!

Who is we?

And why jpeg. Jpeg died a long time ago.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DitOnTheLoose on March 24, 2014, 04:17:24 PM
"we" all.

Because when working with RAW I send stills to the set via telegram so people can reference to those when talking about reshooting something or just for archiving. With Jpeg I can use JPEGmini to reduce filesize drastically with just a click, which helps to send the images to mobile phones on set.

Of course it would be nice to be able to choose between multiple file formats.

the quickest and easiest way of course would be if I could disable the overlays with a key, that way I could at least use a simple screenshot.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on March 24, 2014, 07:33:36 PM
Hi baldand, I wanted to report a simple bug, I don't know if anyone else has it:

Sometimes mlrawviewer won't open some files, it's random. So when you hit Next key, it skips sometimes 1, 2 or 3 files until it finds one that can open. In the folder, you can see the .wav generated that is 1kb, so it failed. There is no way of opening those files with 1.1.3, will look for a log and try with an older version. Using Windows 7 here.

Cheers mate! AWESOME work!!!!! :D

Here's log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kj33bt0iihq6ef0/mlrawviewer.log
The files that wouldn't open are there listed in the log, maybe you can take a look.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on March 24, 2014, 08:17:56 PM
Quote from: tonybeccar on March 24, 2014, 07:33:36 PM
Hi baldand, I wanted to report a simple bug, I don't know if anyone else has it:

Sometimes mlrawviewer won't open some files, it's random. So when you hit Next key, it skips sometimes 1, 2 or 3 files until it finds one that can open. In the folder, you can see the .wav generated that is 1kb, so it failed. There is no way of opening those files with 1.1.3, will look for a log and try with an older version. Using Windows 7 here.

Cheers mate! AWESOME work!!!!! :D

Here's log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kj33bt0iihq6ef0/mlrawviewer.log
The files that wouldn't open are there listed in the log, maybe you can take a look.

I was just looking in the ML builds and it seems the one I used (March 13th) had problems with MLV header write. So that might be it. Anyone knows about this bug? (I just recorded a whole short with this build)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on March 24, 2014, 11:44:12 PM
Quote from: tonybeccar on March 24, 2014, 08:17:56 PM
I was just looking in the ML builds and it seems the one I used (March 13th) had problems with MLV header write. So that might be it. Anyone knows about this bug? (I just recorded a whole short with this build)

Ok in response to my posts: it was a mlv_rec bug. The field frameSpace of the first frame was invalid due to a bug in the build. Now g3gg0 fixed it in mlv_dump so it will skip any frame that has an invalid frameSpace. Any chance to incorporate it in mlvrawviewer?

Cheers and sorry for the trouble!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: schlemiel29 on March 25, 2014, 06:30:35 PM
I don't get it to work!
I downloaded the dmg version for Mac OS and copied it to application. I could start it, the MLV is shown in the window, but how I get a mov file out of it? I clicked on the red button, then the progress bar goes up to the end, but where is the file?
I selected mov or DNG, but neither of the produces an output. Any tips?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 25, 2014, 06:37:57 PM
Quote from: schlemiel29 on March 25, 2014, 06:30:35 PM
Any tips?

Read the first post.

W - File dialog to choose the export directory
D - Choose export type, MOV or DNG
E - Start exporting from the start of the marked range to the export directory. Will use the source name with ".MOV" or "_DNG" appended.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 25, 2014, 06:42:57 PM
I was typing the same reply and didn't see your post. LOL
Still, read the post to see all the key commands.  :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: schlemiel29 on March 25, 2014, 10:15:04 PM
Yes that I knew. But I solved it that way:
I created a new folder, copied MLV and MLRawViewer in it and then it works!?
Before I only get a WAV file but no DNG nor MOV.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: schlemiel29 on March 25, 2014, 10:26:34 PM
Before I used RAW, now MLV seems to be the same except that sound is included. Is there any reason to still use RAW or should I use always MLV?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 25, 2014, 10:53:28 PM
You might want to read my somewhat rant-ish thread asking the same question.

I find .raw gives me better performance and has stronger existing conversion tools in the form of RAWMagic on the Mac, but if you need in-camera sound then you really don't have a choice.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on March 26, 2014, 08:52:19 AM
uh oh spaghetti-o

new bug


Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./mlrawviewer.py", line 1478, in <module>
    sys.exit(main())
  File "./mlrawviewer.py", line 1468, in main
    rmc = Viewer(r,outfilename,wavfilename)
  File "./mlrawviewer.py", line 531, in __init__
    super(Viewer,self).__init__(width=userWidth,height=int(userWidth*self.vidAspectHeight),**kwds)
  File "~/*****/mlrawviewer/GLComputeGLUT.py", line 116, in __init__
    glutInitDisplayMode(GLUT_DOUBLE|GLUT_RGB|GLUT_DEPTH|GLUT_BORDERLESS)
NameError: global name 'GLUT_BORDERLESS' is not defined
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: blainesuque on March 26, 2014, 09:21:30 AM
Hey guys, just started using the MLV viewer and did a quick test today. everything is good and working. Just one question that is hard for me to figure out that maybe one of you can answer, What kind of proress does MLV viewer export to? And are the DMG's that the MLV viewer produces the same as what RAWmagic would produce? THANKS GREAT WORK>> AMAZING WORK!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Dreamer on March 26, 2014, 09:38:33 AM
Quote from: blainesuque on March 26, 2014, 09:21:30 AM
Just one question that is hard for me to figure out that maybe one of you can answer, What kind of proress does MLV viewer export to?


I opened one of the files in QuickTime.  It reads it as ProRes 422 HQ.
I opened it in VLC.  It reads it as ProRes 4:4:4 YUV 10-bit LE.  Based on comments from baldand, this is the most accurate answer.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Dreamer on March 26, 2014, 09:53:45 AM
Andrew, I just discovered your tool, and suffice to say I am incredibly impressed.  The last time I took a deep dive into ML Raw post-production tools, there was much function (great) with terrible design and layout choices.  This software is a breath of fresh air. When you package features with slick design, expect an audience to grow, good sir.  Again, very impressed.

I just submitted an enhancement issue requesting tool-tips.  First-time users often hover over buttons and want to know functionality before clicking.  While the text-based Readme file is useful for explaining the software's purpose and keyboard controls, it can't and doesn't break down the visual elements.  I hope to see a short description for each visual button on-screen.  If you would like, I can write the tool-tips up and PM them to you to save you time.  Let me know if that would be helpful or not for you.

Additionally, integrating the documentation (i.e. About--> Help/Manual) inside the software would be swell as well.  Many end-users don't think to check the Readme file (or keep it long enough to check it) and only go looking for help once they think a feature is missing or are running into a problem which is likely just a user error.

Anyway, I'm just being a proponent of fool-proofing the tool you've designed because the easier it is to use, the easier it is to just pass on to someone new without sending them to a forum / website to figure it out.

I would expect when MLV gets standardized and publicly released that a workflow standard will battle itself out.  At this rate, assuming batch encoding shows up soon for this application, I hope it becomes the, or one of the, gold standards.  Simplicity and beauty meets function.  Recognition is well deserved.

Edit: BTW, I endorse the earlier suggestion of making 'Mark In' and 'Mark Out' I and O respectively, as that is relatively standard for video prep and editing.  Again, if someone didn't read, that's what they would press on the keyboard.  Cheers!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 26, 2014, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: Dreamer on March 26, 2014, 09:53:45 AM
Edit: BTW, I endorse the earlier suggestion of making 'Mark In' and 'Mark Out' I and O respectively, as that is relatively standard for video prep and editing.  Again, if someone didn't read, that's what they would press on the keyboard.  Cheers!
It is also an industry standard to use the J K L keys where the K is for stop and play, J is Reverse and L is Forward. Tapping either J or L will increase speed in that direction. I think it is like 30% speed for each tap. I might be wrong, but there is a way for slow motion, fwd or rev. Maybe it is hold the K while tapping either J or L for slow motion increments in decreasing the speed.
Maybe these functions are not needed for this app. Take a vote from users if you are interested to add these functions.   
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 26, 2014, 03:01:23 PM
Quote from: Dreamer on March 26, 2014, 09:38:33 AM

I opened one of the files in QuickTime.  It reads it as ProRes 422 HQ.
I opened it in VLC.  It reads it as ProRes 4:4:4 YUV 10-bit LE.  Based on comments from baldand, this is the most accurate answer.
I would think that the LE indicates it is the Light Edition so it would then not be 422 HQ. I personally, would want to use 444 since we are coming form a raw file that is 14 bit. One of the main reasons for shooting raw is to have better color grading with the larger amount of data it records. Seems silly to throw all the data away after shooting raw. Yes, the files from 444 are larger, but so what when we now can buy a 4 TB drive for $157 or a 2 TB drive for $80.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 26, 2014, 03:14:26 PM
Quote from: Midphase on March 25, 2014, 10:53:28 PM
You might want to read my somewhat rant-ish thread asking the same question.

I find .raw gives me better performance and has stronger existing conversion tools in the form of RAWMagic on the Mac, but if you need in-camera sound then you really don't have a choice.
I have an M and it does not do audio, which is the big reason to use MLV at the moment. So, I use raw and it is also easier to get  Pink Dot Removal from a few apps that only use Raw files and not MLV.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 26, 2014, 05:23:15 PM
When i adjust the white balance for a MLV file in MLRawViewer, it doesn't seem to stay with the file. I load another MLV file and then adjust the white balance for that file and extract to a DNG sequence. Now when I load the first DNG seq, the white balance did not stay and it shows the white balance from the last file I adjusted. What am I missing about this?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 26, 2014, 06:47:58 PM
Quote from: Dreamer on March 26, 2014, 09:53:45 AM
I would expect when MLV gets standardized and publicly released that a workflow standard will battle itself out.

Dreamer, you sure do live up to your name.   ;D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 26, 2014, 06:50:38 PM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 26, 2014, 02:58:20 PM
It is also an industry standard to use the J K L keys where the K is for stop and play, J is Reverse and L is Forward. Tapping either J or L will increase speed in that direction. I think it is like 30% speed for each tap. I might be wrong, but there is a way for slow motion, fwd or rev. Maybe it is hold the K while tapping either J or L for slow motion increments in decreasing the speed.
Maybe these functions are not needed for this app. Take a vote from users if you are interested to add these functions.

Agreed, JKL is a known workflow that is used by many NLE's. I forgot about that, but I think it's a good point.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 26, 2014, 06:53:39 PM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 26, 2014, 05:23:15 PM
When i adjust the white balance for a MLV file in MLRawViewer, it doesn't seem to stay with the file. I load another MLV file and then adjust the white balance for that file and extract to a DNG sequence. Now when I load the first DNG seq, the white balance did not stay and it shows the white balance from the last file I adjusted. What am I missing about this?

Hello Gary,

My understanding is that CDNG files are white balance agnostic. What that means is that while the metadata might have information relating to what your preferred white balance setting is, it's not married to the actual image. I think that the white balance and tonal adjustments in MLRawViewer are only applied to the ProRes export.

Maybe Baldand could comment?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 26, 2014, 06:56:15 PM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 26, 2014, 03:14:26 PM
I have an M and it does not do audio, which is the big reason to use MLV at the moment. So, I use raw and it is also easier to get  Pink Dot Removal from a few apps that only use Raw files and not MLV.

Yup, if you don't need audio then .raw is IMHO superior performance-wise. On my 5D3 I can easily record continuous 1920X1288 on all of my CF cards in .raw. When I switch to .mlv, at times it seems like the camera can hardly keep up with 1920X1080 even with audio disabled.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on March 26, 2014, 07:13:58 PM
When i look at the material on my macbook pro 13", the material looks washed out. Like a blackmagic material.. Is that ok? When i try to change the curve on the upper left side of the menu to a straight line the video material is crushed..
Is that behavior normal, or is the iris gfx card the problem?
Thx. Sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 26, 2014, 07:16:16 PM
Quote from: Midphase on March 26, 2014, 06:56:15 PM
Yup, if you don't need audio then .raw is IMHO superior performance-wise. On my 5D3 I can easily record continuous 1920X1288 on all of my CF cards in .raw. When I switch to .mlv, at times it seems like the camera can hardly keep up with 1920X1080 even with audio disabled.
that's a bummer on the 5d3. especially since it can record audio with mlv. maybe they will eventually work it out.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 26, 2014, 07:19:32 PM
Quote from: Midphase on March 26, 2014, 06:53:39 PM
Hello Gary,

My understanding is that CDNG files are white balance agnostic. What that means is that while the metadata might have information relating to what your preferred white balance setting is, it's not married to the actual image. I think that the white balance and tonal adjustments in MLRawViewer are only applied to the ProRes export.

Maybe Baldand could comment?
if i use ACR and make any adjustments to a frame in the dng seq and the sync it to all the frames, i can save it out  as new dng seq with all the changes i made on every frame. that is why i was wondering if it is possible in mlrawviewer.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 26, 2014, 09:32:02 PM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 26, 2014, 07:19:32 PM
if i use ACR and make any adjustments to a frame in the dng seq and the sync it to all the frames, i can save it out  as new dng seq with all the changes i made on every frame. that is why i was wondering if it is possible in mlrawviewer.

Midphase got it correct. For now, the displayed white balance and brightness are only used for MOV encode. DNG export does not yet modify anything apart from the previously discusses dead pixels (mainly relevant for 60D).

It would be nice in future if the as shot RGB multipliers in the DNG files would reflect the visual setting when the export was made, but I need to do more work to get the mappings right since I think it should take into account the camera XYZ colour matrix so that you see the correct result e.g. in Premiere.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 26, 2014, 09:35:50 PM
Quote from: swinxx on March 26, 2014, 07:13:58 PM
When i look at the material on my macbook pro 13", the material looks washed out. Like a blackmagic material.. Is that ok? When i try to change the curve on the upper left side of the menu to a straight line the video material is crushed..
Is that behavior normal, or is the iris gfx card the problem?
Thx. Sw

Hard to say. There is currently no sRGB curve which might give the most "normal" looking output. The default global tone map can look a bite washed out, though I like for reviewing material because it brings up dark areas while preserving contrast. The log curve is of course very flat. The linear curve makes no effort to keep data in the visible range - with that you should use the brightness control to examine the lighter and darker areas.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 26, 2014, 09:36:55 PM
General comment... thanks everyone for the constructive suggestions e.g. for tool tips and key changes. I'm following it all and will see what can be added/changed/improved in future versions.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on March 26, 2014, 09:59:47 PM
Thank you for a gamechanger in workflow when working with raw and mlvfiles. Amazing tool.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on March 27, 2014, 05:13:59 PM
Hello baland! I wanted to ask why does 50fps footage sometimes play in slowmotion and sometimes in normal motion? Meaning 25fps or 50fps? Is there any shortcut that I am missing? Also, the audio does not stretch when it plays in slowmotion, it gets cut off at half of the clip, probably you know this, hehe.

Cheers!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 27, 2014, 05:27:33 PM
Quote from: tonybeccar on March 27, 2014, 05:13:59 PM
Hello baland! I wanted to ask why does 50fps footage sometimes play in slowmotion and sometimes in normal motion? Meaning 25fps or 50fps? Is there any shortcut that I am missing? Also, the audio does not stretch when it plays in slowmotion, it gets cut off at half of the clip, probably you know this, hehe.

Cheers!

The drop frames option (F key or clock/frame icon) can switch between "slow motion" (show every frame) and "play in real time" (drop frames if needed to keep up), though it shouldn't play audio in non-drop frame mode...

Of course this could be some other bug with 50fps content I don't know about...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 27, 2014, 05:43:06 PM
I am not sure if this has been covered, but is there some way in your app to eliminate the pink dots we get on the M camera using raw or mlv files?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on March 27, 2014, 05:58:52 PM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 27, 2014, 05:43:06 PM
I am not sure if this has been covered, but is there some way in your app to eliminate the pink dots we get on the M camera using raw or mlv files?
also here,
when i used dual iso on 600d i used to have pink dots, mlviewer solved this issue...

BTW:
Batch convert to cdng or prores will take this app great step forward.

best
David
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 27, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
Quote from: DavidSh on March 27, 2014, 05:58:52 PM
also here,
when i used dual iso on 600d i used to have pink dots, mlviewer solved this issue...

BTW:
Batch convert to cdng or prores will take this app great step forward.

best
David
PDR is solved? how is it being done?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on March 27, 2014, 06:12:53 PM
I really don't know... but i don't have pink dots when i use mlrawviewer to convert my dual iso mlv files.
600d.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 27, 2014, 06:16:05 PM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 26, 2014, 03:01:23 PM
I would think that the LE indicates it is the Light Edition so it would then not be 422 HQ. I personally, would want to use 444 since we are coming form a raw file that is 14 bit. One of the main reasons for shooting raw is to have better color grading with the larger amount of data it records. Seems silly to throw all the data away after shooting raw. Yes, the files from 444 are larger, but so what when we now can buy a 4 TB drive for $157 or a 2 TB drive for $80.
BUMP.  anybody?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on March 27, 2014, 06:57:35 PM
If this guys had mlv instead of raw it would be great...
but i think it is a nice referent for mlrawViewer
http://pomfort.com/cliphouse/ (http://pomfort.com/cliphouse/)

the idea is being able to view a pool of the files on the sd  or cf card from the left, being able to view them on the right, convert the one that you see or batch convert all the files on the card to a destination folder.

color correction is not that important as i see when you digitize
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 27, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
Quote from: DavidSh on March 27, 2014, 06:57:35 PM
If this guys had mlv instead of raw it would be great...
but i think it is a nice referent for mlrawViewer
http://pomfort.com/cliphouse/ (http://pomfort.com/cliphouse/)

the idea is being able to view a pool of the files on the sd  or cf card from the left, being able to view them on the right, convert the one that you see or batch convert all the files on the card to a destination folder.

color correction is not that important as i see when you digitize
Please indicate that this competing app for sale is only for Mac so Windows people do not waste time trying to get the demo and give out info with our email addresses for nothing.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 27, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 27, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
Please indicate that this competing app for sale is only for Mac so Windows people do not waste time trying to get the demo and give out info with our email addresses for nothing.

Come on Gary...how about you read up what you're signing up for instead of blaming someone for posting about it?

Pomfort Cliphouse has been around for a long time, in my tests it's clunky and never played back more than a couple of frames at a time. The guys who make it never quite had a response as to why the issue is happening, and if I can't get a good sense of how well the app works from a demo, I'm not going to buy it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 27, 2014, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: Midphase on March 27, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
Come on Gary...how about you read up what you're signing up for instead of blaming someone for posting about it?

Pomfort Cliphouse has been around for a long time, in my tests it's clunky and never played back more than a couple of frames at a time. The guys who make it never quite had a response as to why the issue is happening, and if I can't get a good sense of how well the app works from a demo, I'm not going to buy it.
Come on Mid, you can't expect everyone to know what you know. I never heard of it before and I research a lot. Probably more than most people ever do. You are probably a Mac guy, so of course you have heard of it. I bet you are more upset about something being said about Mac rather than just my request for a warning, which most people usually do. -_) Or you wouldn't have said anything. I am a PC and Mac person since the first PC and the first Mac. I am currently only PC. My post was not against Mac, just that I wasted time and handed out personal info for something that could have been avoided from a simple sentence of, BTW, it is only for Mac.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 27, 2014, 10:14:50 PM
All I'm saying is that before you sign up for something, that you look at the specs and make sure that it fits your system.

For instance, I'm still running 10.8.4 on my main machine, so I have to carefully read to make sure that my specs fit the required minimums or I'm wasting my time. So that means no Red Giant Universe for me!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gary2013 on March 27, 2014, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: Midphase on March 27, 2014, 10:14:50 PM
All I'm saying is that before you sign up for something, that you look at the specs and make sure that it fits your system.

For instance, I'm still running 10.8.4 on my main machine, so I have to carefully read to make sure that my specs fit the required minimums or I'm wasting my time. So that means no Red Giant Universe for me!
you're right. I was moving too fast to get the download started.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Dreamer on March 27, 2014, 10:44:32 PM
Quote from: gary2013 on March 27, 2014, 06:16:05 PM
BUMP.  anybody?

Quote from: baldand on March 19, 2014, 04:38:39 PM
The ffmpeg argument currently is "-vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 3". The colour format that uses is YUV444 10bit. The quality is quite high, and of course it's using (slow/expensive) AMaZE for demosaicing.

Quote from: Dreamer on March 26, 2014, 09:38:33 AM
I opened it in VLC.  It reads it as ProRes 4:4:4 YUV 10-bit LE.  Based on comments from baldand, this is the most accurate answer.

Gary, the question of what ProRes has been answered by both baldand and myself.  What more do you wish to know?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: edufiend on March 27, 2014, 11:41:13 PM
Hey guys, congrats on the app, works great. I skimmed through the thread and couldn't find anyone asking this so sorry if I missed it: I'm using the new 1.2.3 ML for the Mark iii and managed to get about a minute of RAW video but when I tried to convert the .M00 file the MlRawViewer does not accept it, it opens up and then crashes. I'm using OS X 10.8,5 btw. Any suggestions would be appreciated, as you may have noticed, kind of a n00b in the subject, thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on March 27, 2014, 11:47:48 PM
Quote from: Midphase on March 27, 2014, 10:14:50 PM
All I'm saying is that before you sign up for something, that you look at the specs and make sure that it fits your system.

mac users are minority we always read before we download.

use to be a win user for a long long time,
an IT man acutely and a programer.
So yes, people should read what they are downloading.

I love mlrawViewer it is the best thing that happened to raw on ml.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 28, 2014, 05:41:06 AM
Quote from: DavidSh on March 27, 2014, 11:47:48 PM
I love mlrawViewer it is the best thing that happened to raw on ml.

MLRawViewer is great, but you should take a look at what Thomas Worth has in store for us with the new version of RAWMagic too!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: fotosav on March 28, 2014, 09:21:44 AM
MlRawViewer is very nice tool! Love it!
I have a suggestion - it is very IMPORTANT for me: Add ability to embed ACR color profiles (flag ?) to DNG exported files.

I noticed when I convert MLV by mlrawviewer.exe (1.1.3) the Canon profiles are not available in "Camera Calibration" tab ("Embedded" is only available):
(http://fotosav.ru/temp2/CameraProfile.jpg)

When I convert MLV by MLVBrowseSharp.exe the Canon profiles are available (Camera Standard, Camera Portrait, Camera Landscape, etc)!

See also:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11100.0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on March 28, 2014, 09:43:38 AM
Quote from: Midphase on March 28, 2014, 05:41:06 AM
MLRawViewer is great, but you should take a look at what Thomas Worth has in store for us with the new version of RAWMagic too!

Looks promising,
Already watching after this topic but thanks for the update Midphase
But only thing that MlRawViewer is lack to be a great batch converter is the batch :)

maybe the two tools together is the solution.
one for on set review and the other for post studio.

about the cold pixel, pink dots whatever you would like to call them, they went away with MlRawViewer. hope RawMagic will perform the same.
BTW adobe pp cc opens the 16 bit dng quit well for editing, what exectly the problem with it?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: CF on March 28, 2014, 12:31:45 PM
Quote from: DavidSh on March 27, 2014, 11:47:48 PM
mac users are minority we always read before we download.

use to be a win user for a long long time,
an IT man acutely and a programer.
So yes, people should read what they are downloading.

I love mlrawViewer it is the best thing that happened to raw on ml.

Yes, this app is fantastic !!!! Best ML RAW Converter to date !!! And gets the cDNGs right, WB-Wise, unlike RAWMagic which does not !

Cliphouse by Pomfort is great but what really beats me in that app, is that they 'left out' export to cinemaDNG !!! PR4444 is great but still truncates 2 bits off the 14 bit RAWs coming off the camera.... But once/if they implement that feature, the app is fantastic !
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: raffal92 on March 28, 2014, 08:52:40 PM
This app is amazing finally resolved the dots problem on my 60d footage.... it exports in CDNG directly to premiere CC AWESOME
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on March 28, 2014, 09:33:54 PM
Oh my god I just realized this is exporting to CINEMA dng... jesus!!!! Amazing!!! Is there a command line option to start encoding? I would love to incorporate it on my MLV Converter... if not, can it be added please?

Cheers!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Canon eos m on March 29, 2014, 04:03:38 AM
Quote from: tonybeccar on March 28, 2014, 09:33:54 PM
Oh my god I just realized this is exporting to CINEMA dng... jesus!!!! Amazing!!! Is there a command line option to start encoding? I would love to incorporate it on my MLV Converter... if not, can it be added please?

Cheers!

How do I convert to cdng or is it that the dng converted are actually cdng files. The properties section doesn't say so.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on March 29, 2014, 05:51:08 AM
Quote from: Canon eos m on March 29, 2014, 04:03:38 AM
How do I convert to cdng or is it that the dng converted are actually cdng files. The properties section doesn't say so.
the dng converted are actually cdng files.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Canon eos m on March 29, 2014, 12:16:35 PM
I am really exited about my new  Nvidia Qodoro K2000 video card (replacing my old not so great and jerky Asus 600Ti. Why did I change? To get better viewing and converting experience on with MLViewer. The damn thing cost me US$900 to buy. It was a difficult decision to make choosing between the K2000 and the highly rated Nividia 780Ti especially since my PC is a mere i5.

But the salesman was kind. He let me run both these cards with the MLViewer running. The K2000 won hands down. The developer of MLViewer have really upped the bar and better deploying better hardware will be the only way to keep up.

Will report performance in a few days.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jose_ugs on March 29, 2014, 02:59:45 PM
How about those 2 compared when using Resolve, Adobe or NLE's in general? The 780 has like a ton of CUDAs
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Canon eos m on March 29, 2014, 05:29:29 PM
I am told the K2000 has more CUDA capabilities than the 780 Ti. I will find out in the coming days. Guess should start a new thread for this topic.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Audionut on March 29, 2014, 06:24:13 PM
@baldand.  The link to your repository in the OP is generating a phishing attempt error in firefox.  The username before bitbucket.org needs to be removed.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer.git

Cheers.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 29, 2014, 06:33:10 PM
Quote from: Audionut on March 29, 2014, 06:24:13 PM
@baldand.  The link to your repository in the OP is generating a phishing attempt error in firefox.  The username before bitbucket.org needs to be removed.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer.git

Cheers.

Whoops, fixed now. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: elfrabo on March 29, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Hi there,

I must be missing something completely here. I'm using MLV for the first time ever on a 5dII. When using mlrawviewer the video looks like crap: not sharp and colors are all washed out and sort of pinkish.

Please help: what am I doing wrong?

I've used the latest night build magiclantern-Nightly.2014Mar29.5D2212
and MlRawViewer 1.1.3

Cheers, Frank
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: raffal92 on March 29, 2014, 11:54:29 PM
MLRaw can conver also dual iso RAW?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on March 30, 2014, 04:31:46 AM
Quote from: raffal92 on March 29, 2014, 11:54:29 PM
MLRaw can conver also dual iso RAW?

Not yet.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: fotosav on March 30, 2014, 08:26:13 AM
Quote from: elfrabo on March 29, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
When using mlrawviewer the video looks like crap: not sharp and colors are all washed out and sort of pinkish.
Please help: what am I doing wrong?
It is preview.
Click "Export" (E key on keyboard or Red icon on left panel) to export to DNG and then look DNG :)
Also see issues about ACR color profiles:
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/48/write-correct-camera-model-metadata-it-is
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: elfrabo on March 30, 2014, 10:11:59 AM
Quote from: fotosav on March 30, 2014, 08:26:13 AM
It is preview.
Click "Export" (E key on keyboard or Red icon on left panel) to export to DNG and then look DNG :)
Also see issues about ACR color profiles:
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/48/write-correct-camera-model-metadata-it-is

Unfortunately the video quality is still very bad after exporting  :( . Some examples (password is MLV):

http://frankboekamp.smugmug.com/MLV/ (http://frankboekamp.smugmug.com/MLV/)

During recording in the viewfinder it looks all right. I must be doing something very wrong  :o
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 30, 2014, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: elfrabo on March 30, 2014, 10:11:59 AM
Unfortunately the video quality is still very bad after exporting  :( . Some examples (password is MLV):

http://frankboekamp.smugmug.com/MLV/ (http://frankboekamp.smugmug.com/MLV/)

During recording in the viewfinder it looks all right. I must be doing something very wrong  :o

The black level is wrong due to a bug in the version of mlv_rec you used, so those files would need to be manually fixed to be displayed or converted correctly.

You need to upgrade to a newer ML with correct black levels.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: elfrabo on March 30, 2014, 11:54:16 AM
great to hear there is a bugfix  :D. I downloaded the version that is in the first post of this thread.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_3_win32.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_3_win32.zip)

Where can I find a newer version?

For the record: I was able to correct the video using ACR but it was a lot of work!


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: elfrabo on March 30, 2014, 12:29:31 PM
Quote from: elfrabo on March 30, 2014, 11:54:16 AM
great to hear there is a bugfix  :D. I downloaded the version that is in the first post of this thread.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_3_win32.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_3_win32.zip)

Where can I find a newer version?

For the record: I was able to correct the video using ACR but it was a lot of work!

And to be more complete on this, I used the latest night build:

magiclantern-Nightly.2014Mar29.5D2212
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 30, 2014, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: elfrabo on March 30, 2014, 12:29:31 PM
And to be more complete on this, I used the latest night build:

magiclantern-Nightly.2014Mar29.5D2212

As I understand it, the bug was in Magic Lantern - not MlRawViewer. Sorry, but I don't know any of the details about the fix.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: elfrabo on March 30, 2014, 11:09:24 PM
Quote from: baldand on March 30, 2014, 12:37:50 PM
As I understand it, the bug was in Magic Lantern - not MlRawViewer. Sorry, but I don't know any of the details about the fix.

Hi baldand,

It's fixed: On Magic Lantern's Movie menu goto RAW (MLV) then go to the sub settings and find Fix black level turn it OFF

Thanks for your good work!  :D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bluewater on April 02, 2014, 10:21:53 AM
First, I want to say Thank you for making this marvelous tool.
BTW I have some questions about this program.

Any Plan making MLV browser which can browse thumbnails of all MLV files in a folder?
like
(http://imageshack.com/a/img829/4553/odjp.png)


+

Parallel processing at once per CPU core. (at least 4 converting processes at a time.)
such as
(http://imageshack.com/a/img843/7672/p5x7.png)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bluewater on April 02, 2014, 10:50:01 AM
Very Impressive tool :D
Baldand, which post-processing do you recommend after using your tool to make apch 4:4:4 MOV file?
(e.g. After effect? Da Vinci? premiere?)

OR

You may recommend to output DNG sequence not MOV file.

Any answer would help. Thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: stanley on April 02, 2014, 05:05:04 PM
Sorry if this has been posted before, I've done a search but couldn't find anything related.

Using MLRawViewer I can export to .MOV fine but nothing happens when I try to export DNG?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: stanley on April 02, 2014, 05:08:08 PM
Quote from: stanley on April 02, 2014, 05:05:04 PM
Sorry if this has been posted before, I've done a search but couldn't find anything related.

Using MLRawViewer I can export to .MOV fine but nothing happens when I try to export DNG?

Scratch that, working now.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: vaisse on April 02, 2014, 07:12:06 PM
i am on mavrick mac
the same for me
it work before but today nothing append when i click to export dng
I can not export to .MOV and
nothing happens when I try to export DNG?

thanks for help

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: fotosav on April 02, 2014, 08:30:55 PM
Quote from: bluewater on April 02, 2014, 10:21:53 AM
Parallel processing at once per CPU core. (at least 4 converting processes at a time.)
Some info:
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/21/batch-encoding
"There is now an export queue which processes jobs in sequence. However, the old MOV encoding doesn't use the queue yet, only new DNG exporting."
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on April 02, 2014, 09:34:37 PM
Btw, baldand, out of curiosity, how did you make the executables and package this for windows and mac?

Thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 02, 2014, 09:51:08 PM
Quote from: feureau on April 02, 2014, 09:34:37 PM
Btw, baldand, out of curiosity, how did you make the executables and package this for windows and mac?

Thanks

http://www.pyinstaller.org/ (http://www.pyinstaller.org/)

The pyinstaller config scipts for the mac and windows builds are in the git repo.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on April 04, 2014, 10:43:36 AM
The feature that I'm missing the most is the ability to use all the CPU power when exporting dngs, it would make a HUGE difference in my workflow and I suppose the ones of everybody!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 05, 2014, 03:24:13 PM
Quote from: togg on April 04, 2014, 10:43:36 AM
The feature that I'm missing the most is the ability to use all the CPU power when exporting dngs, it would make a HUGE difference in my workflow and I suppose the ones of everybody!

I don't think it would. In most cases the speed of conversion to DNG format should be limited mainly by your read or write speeds (whichever is slower) - it should be I/O bound, not CPU bound.

Of course if your MLV file is on a fast SSD, and your target directory is on a different SSD, then you might start to become CPU bound instead.

This might change if/when there is more processing being done to the raw data than just 14->16 bit unpacking and dead pixel hiding, at which point multithreading of the frame processing may help.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on April 05, 2014, 06:21:59 PM
I agree. People seem to forget that moving several Gb from a CF card unto a hard drive takes time in itself. Simply copying about 64Gb from the CF card to an internal 7200Rpm hard drive takes roughly a little over 10 minutes using USB 3.0 and a good card reader.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on April 05, 2014, 07:07:38 PM
I just have an internal ssd so I can't make any serious test, but I remember that once this software (which has multithread and sadly doesn't always work, http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7825.0) worked and it was *a lot* faster.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: chmee on April 05, 2014, 07:24:43 PM
optimizing the IO-threads is not that easy (but there are some good ideas out there :)), there are several possible bottlenecks. one of the simplest things is to convert straight from the card - it simply prevents the time consuming copy-process to a harddisk - if you summarize all copy/process time, its not that clear, what concept is ideal. i wouldn't focus that much on multithreading but more on one-click-batch-solutions, so you can start your main (editing) work straight after a unattended coffeetime.

and: baldand gave his sourcecode free to help and code, in contrast to me (yet). you're all able to help ;)

regards chmee
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: RAW on April 05, 2014, 08:01:01 PM
thanks for the software MLRawViewer. 

Does it remove pink/green dots for 650d?  Can it be builtin? :)

During an raw/mov export, Can video viewer/display be disable during an export just to save CPU/GPU?
Will there be waterdrop WB tool in future :) ? or I can enter the same numbers for WB so I can lock in the setting during mult clips export.
thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 05, 2014, 09:44:53 PM
Quote from: RAW on April 05, 2014, 08:01:01 PM
thanks for the software MLRawViewer. 

Does it remove pink/green dots for 650d?  Can it be builtin? :)

During an raw/mov export, Can video viewer/display be disable during an export just to save CPU/GPU?
Will there be waterdrop WB tool in future :) ? or I can enter the same numbers for WB so I can lock in the setting during mult clips export.
thanks

If possible please raise, vote and track the status of feature requests on bitbucket:  https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open)

I'm working on the white balance and colour related features right now. The white picker might just make it to the next release. Not sure about numeric entry.

For now viewer can't be disabled during export since it is partially creating the data to export... in future (not the next release) this might change if the MOV export moves to background task.

Pink dot removal is also a possible future feature, though I don't have any camera with pink dots so I have some trouble to develop this one...





Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on April 05, 2014, 10:13:50 PM
Quote from: baldand on April 05, 2014, 09:44:53 PM
If possible please raise, vote and track the status of feature requests on bitbucket:  https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open)

I'm working on the white balance and colour related features right now. The white picker might just make it to the next release. Not sure about numeric entry.

For now viewer can't be disabled during export since it is partially creating the data to export... in future (not the next release) this might change if the MOV export moves to background task.

Pink dot removal is also a possible future feature, though I don't have any camera with pink dots so I have some trouble to develop this one...
Dear Baldand,
Thank you for this great app
Right now you are the only tool that can be used as an mlv converter to cdng on mac
Please, add batch convert.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 05, 2014, 10:33:25 PM
Quote from: DavidSh on April 05, 2014, 10:13:50 PM
Dear Baldand,
Thank you for this great app
Right now you are the only tool that can be used as an mlv converter to cdng on mac
Please, add batch convert.

Just checking, but you know it's possible to queue up multiple DNG export jobs already in 1.1.3? Just load new clips with drag&drop or O/P keys, and press E to add a new item to the end of the queue.

I'm curious what additional features people would expect of a full batch mode (independantly from a browser, that is).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on April 05, 2014, 10:37:58 PM
Is this batchworkflow working with the prores files as well??
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 05, 2014, 10:44:46 PM
Quote from: Danne on April 05, 2014, 10:37:58 PM
Is this batchworkflow working with the prores files as well??

Not yet, only DNG
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on April 05, 2014, 10:46:25 PM
I see. The best app still
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on April 05, 2014, 11:27:15 PM
Dear Baldand,

I dont know if it has a connection or not, But after trying the batch que the app stop exporting at all.
when i press on the record button nothing is happen.
I tried to uninstall and install again, restart, uninstalled other apps realated like son of a batch and rawnizer.

Still nothing happen.


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on April 05, 2014, 11:40:08 PM
Acting very weird...
Now after i use "w" and set export directory it export the dng but the clip is halted (jumping between two frames - weirdly)
still when just trying to export without setting an export directory nothing is happening.

Update:
Came back to  life like nothing happened.
Weird.

This is still the best app for mlv :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on April 06, 2014, 12:51:01 AM
Btw,
embed cr2hdr for dual iso will be great :)

cheers
David.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kontrakatze on April 06, 2014, 09:27:13 AM
Hi,
a quick question I stumbled upon yesterday. The version of Prores Mlrawviewer uses is 4:2:2 LT, isn't it? Why not 4:4:4, or would that exceed the amount of information stored within the .mlv?

Regards,
kontrakatze
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Rewind on April 06, 2014, 09:43:44 AM
Quote from: kontrakatze on April 06, 2014, 09:27:13 AM
Hi,
a quick question I stumbled upon yesterday. The version of Prores Mlrawviewer uses is 4:2:2 LT, isn't it? Why not 4:4:4, or would that exceed the amount of information stored within the .mlv?

Regards,
kontrakatze

(http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/kiss_10kb.1396770035.png)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kontrakatze on April 06, 2014, 10:28:32 AM
Interesting, quicktime on my mac says prores 4.2.2. Bluerayplayer says prores 4.2.2 LT. What do I do wrong? Do I have to change any settings?

Regards,
kontrakatze
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kontrakatze on April 06, 2014, 06:19:53 PM
I tested it again using several different apps, like apple quicktime, FCPX and DaVinci Resolve. All apps state the same, the .mov I get from MlRawViewer on my mac are all ProRes 4:2:2 (OSX 10.9.2 and MlRawViewer 1.1.3).

The picture by Rewind is made on a linux machine (?), might this be the reason for the different results?

Regards,
kontrakatze
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on April 06, 2014, 08:13:15 PM
I do think that it's an exotic variant of ProRes 444 (which doesn't really exist in Apple's specs) so it's possible that it might be getting incorrectly defined by the likes of FCPX.

I do think though that it would be kinda neat to be able to choose the flavor of ProRes. For instance, many of us might just want to create some proxy ProRes files to edit to and do our final color timing on the CDNG's, so in that case ProRes LT or Proxy would be more than acceptable.


Thoughts?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kontrakatze on April 06, 2014, 08:20:19 PM
That was one of my first thoughts, too. But Bluerayplayer can not playback ProRes 4:4:4 (screen stays blue, no audio) and the files created by MlRawViewer are played back flawless. Fcpx is based on quicktime, as far as I know, therefore both show the same codec. But Davinci resolve also states, that it is 4:2:2.
By the way, the bitrate is 186.05 MBits/s @ 23,98 fps 1080p, that would be ok, or am I wrong?
Is there a pref file anywhere on macs?

Regards,
kontrakatze
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 06, 2014, 11:42:13 PM
MlRawViewer 1.1.4 is now available. See the top post for links and instructions: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165)

Main changes since 1.1.3:
- Uses sRGB colour space instead of camera raw colour space based on matrix in RAW or MLV file
- sRGB and Rec.709 gamma curves added (defaults to sRGB)
- White balance can be picked by clicking a neutral coloured object anywhere in a frame
- White balance and brightness are written to (and read from) exported DNG files
- MOV exporting when changing resolution no longer causes image corruption
- Confirmation dialog shown when closing while exporting is ongoing
- Mark In/Out keys changed from J/K to I/O (next/prev file changed to J/K)
- Next/prev works also for CDNG sets
- DNG model metadata fixed to allow profile matching in ACR
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on April 06, 2014, 11:53:34 PM
Quote from: baldand on April 06, 2014, 11:42:13 PM
MlRawViewer 1.1.4 is now available. See the top post for links and instructions: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165)

Main changes since 1.1.3:
- Uses sRGB colour space instead of camera raw colour space based on matrix in RAW or MLV file
- sRGB and Rec.709 gamma curves added (defaults to sRGB)
- White balance can be picked by clicking a neutral coloured object anywhere in a frame
- White balance and brightness are written to (and read from) exported DNG files
- MOV exporting when changing resolution no longer causes image corruption
- Confirmation dialog shown when closing while exporting is ongoing
- Mark In/Out keys changed from J/K to I/O (next/prev file changed to J/K)
- Next/prev works also for CDNG sets
- DNG model metadata fixed to allow profile matching in ACR
Thank you Baldand for all this hard work and for keep update MlRawViewer.

1. still loosing mouse  cursor on hover over vid
2. application halt or closed when clicking choose using "w" for export destination.
3. it looks like the new wb works o.k but i am going blind with no cursor visible over vid window.
4. at last acr open dng with correct wb :) thank you

update:
now mouse cursor is back, it looks like it came back after i went full screen but i cant be sure. also loosing mouse after resize app window. it came back after clicking out of the app window and clicking it again from dock.

osx mavericks.

Thanks again.
David
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on April 07, 2014, 12:23:39 AM
Nice work! All works except the whitebalance picker. I click and click but nothing is changed. Maybe I have too neutral clips.
I,m on macbook pro osx 15,5 retina  geforce nvidia.
Thanks again!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.3 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: RAW on April 07, 2014, 04:23:10 AM
thanks baldand
Quote from: baldand on April 05, 2014, 09:44:53 PM
If possible please raise, vote and track the status of feature requests on bitbucket:  https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open)

I'm working on the white balance and colour related features right now. The white picker might just make it to the next release. Not sure about numeric entry.

For now viewer can't be disabled during export since it is partially creating the data to export... in future (not the next release) this might change if the MOV export moves to background task.

Pink dot removal is also a possible future feature, though I don't have any camera with pink dots so I have some trouble to develop this one...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on April 07, 2014, 06:12:49 PM
Hi Baland!

thank you for such a great program and for that continuous progress!
every update is so great! unbelievable! Baland, i really appreciate your effort, cause you make MLV useful!
THANK YOU!

so, now here is my feedback.

- i have also the problem with the cursor (macbook pro 13 inch), it sometimes disappears when hovering over.
- the new color spaces look great, i think it is a huge step in the right direction. the possibility to apply luts would be great, but in my opinion not absolutly necessary.
- is the whitebalance really working? i think that after the wb the picture is colored here..?
- info box when hovering over the icons

wanted additional features:
- can you perhaps link the looper function with the In and Out points..   


thank you, i love your program!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: RAW on April 07, 2014, 11:58:43 PM
thanks for the new version.  The 1.1.3 allows dng files to be exported as mov.  1.1.4 doesn't. please don't remove feature. :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 08, 2014, 06:01:09 AM
Quote from: RAW on April 07, 2014, 11:58:43 PM
thanks for the new version.  The 1.1.3 allows dng files to be exported as mov.  1.1.4 doesn't. please don't remove feature. :)

Nothing was removed from 1.1.4. MOV export should still work as in 1.1.3.

If it is not working for you, can you give details of your system (Windows or Mac) and the problem you see happening? Have you set an export target folder using W key?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kontrakatze on April 08, 2014, 07:43:36 AM
I would like to ask if any other mac user has this problem with the ProRes files being 4:2:2 instead of 4:4:4.

By now these are the applications I tested:
- Finder info says ProRes 4:2:2 HQ
- Davinci resolve lite says 4:2:2
- FinalCut Pro X says 4:2:2
- Quicktime says 4:2:2
- Mediainfo says 4:2:2

I get the same results with MlRawViewer 1.1.3 and 1.1.4 regardless the .mlv I use as input.

(http://www.schoenharting.de/pic/mediainfo.tiff)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 08, 2014, 08:51:04 AM
Quote from: kontrakatze on April 08, 2014, 07:43:36 AM
I would like to ask if any other mac user has this problem with the ProRes files being 4:2:2 instead of 4:4:4.

By now these are the applications I tested:
- Finder info says ProRes 4:2:2 HQ
- Davinci resolve lite says 4:2:2
- FinalCut Pro X says 4:2:2
- Quicktime says 4:2:2
- Mediainfo says 4:2:2

I get the same results with MlRawViewer 1.1.3 and 1.1.4 regardless the .mlv I use as input.

(http://www.schoenharting.de/pic/mediainfo.tiff)

The answer to your question may be related to this: http://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2013-May/015095.html (http://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2013-May/015095.html)

Shortly: ffmpeg (which is used for the encoding) sets the wrong fourcc of "apch" instead of "ap4h".
This causes the format to be misidentified by QT as "422". But the data it contains IS in 444 format.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: SoulChildPaul on April 08, 2014, 01:33:27 PM
On Windows 7 new 1.1.4 update only shows a black screen although audio can be heard. Checked same files on older version are viewable
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: NedB on April 08, 2014, 01:54:52 PM
@baldand: Windows 7, 64-bit. All .raw files and .mlv files I throw at 1.1.4 seem to play perfectly. Laptop with ATI/AMD Mobility Radeon HD4570. What could be causing @SoulChildPaul's problem with a black screen? Anything I could help test? Cheers and thanks so much for your really fantastic software.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kontrakatze on April 08, 2014, 02:00:24 PM
So, if there is just a mismatch of ffmpeg put into the header, does apps like DaVinci actually use all bits given by the file?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nuke01 on April 08, 2014, 05:59:57 PM
Hi,

using 1.1.4. I also have a blackscreen/seems to doesnt load at all. I can't verify playing sound because I recorded without sound.

I'm on a Windows 7x64, 16gb ram, i5-2500k.

Things is, it does this only with one file, which is rather huge (.MLV up to .M07). Could this be the problem. An other file which only goes to .M03 plays just fine.

Also this is a snippet from the log, this lines get repeat a lot:

MlRawViewer v1.1.4
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013-2014
Using GLFW
wavnames []
wavfilename C:\Users\Joe\Work\movies\2014\ML Raw Test\M08-1426.WAV
Opening MLV file C:\Users\Joe\Work\movies\2014\ML Raw Test\M08-1426.MLV
Black level: 1791 White level: 15000
FPS: 25.0 (25000/1000)
Audio frame count 0
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Projects\mlrawviewer\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 283, in __draw
  File "<string>", line 755, in onDraw
  File "C:\Projects\mlrawviewer\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 234, in renderScenes
  File "<string>", line 414, in prepareToRender
ZeroDivisionError: float division by zero


Is the file corrupt or is it something with the player? When I convert it MLV Converter 1.9.2 it seems to only take the .MLV, but maybe that's just the converter.

ps.: thanks for your awesome work btw!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Frank7D on April 08, 2014, 06:56:37 PM
Quote from: nuke01 on April 08, 2014, 05:59:57 PM
Is the file corrupt or is it something with the player? When I convert it MLV Converter 1.9.2 it seems to only take the .MLV, but maybe that's just the converter.

When you convert with MLV Converter, do the DNGs total weight roughly equal the combined MLV-M07 file size? If so, it converted them all; if not, then not.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nuke01 on April 08, 2014, 07:45:00 PM
EDIT: whitout compression, it's roughly the same size (36GB). so this means, it's not the data it's mlrawviewer? anything I can do to help?


Unfortunatly I used loseless compression, I don't know how much it is suppose to compress.

Anyway the DNG are 19.4GB, the combined MLV about 35GB. Does that help you. Should I try to convert it again without compression and get back to you?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 08, 2014, 09:21:38 PM
Quote from: nuke01 on April 08, 2014, 05:59:57 PM

  File "<string>", line 414, in prepareToRender
ZeroDivisionError: float division by zero


Thanks for the details. It's a bit mysterious. That line suggests the frame count for the set of files (made from summing the framecounts of the individual .M** files) is zero. That seems quite unlikely to me, so I'm not sure whats going on.

Has anyone else tried playing such large file sets with success or similar failure?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nuke01 on April 08, 2014, 10:44:13 PM
Thank you for your quick response. Interessting fact: MLV Converter also says it has 0 frames. Maybe there is an Integer Overflow happening, how long is the frame count integer?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: RAW on April 08, 2014, 10:44:39 PM
thanks for the fast reply. windows 7 64bit.
1.1.4 can't playback dir containing sequences of dng files.  I was able to in 1.1.3

Quote from: baldand on April 08, 2014, 06:01:09 AM
Nothing was removed from 1.1.4. MOV export should still work as in 1.1.3.

If it is not working for you, can you give details of your system (Windows or Mac) and the problem you see happening? Have you set an export target folder using W key?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pilgrim on April 09, 2014, 01:16:26 AM
Quote from: SoulChildPaul on April 08, 2014, 01:33:27 PM
On Windows 7 new 1.1.4 update only shows a black screen although audio can be heard. Checked same files on older version are viewable

This post reply some other similar problem with windows 7 64b. It's not a solving problem but maybe some trace of problem (for baldand).
I have similar problem, that version 1.1.4 doesn't work the output MOV file on my Win 7 64b. The 'W' key (destination folder) doesn't work either.
Some time the version 1.1.3 Win did similar thing, but the 1.1.3 on Mac/Maverick work nicely  :) :) :)

The same MLV file which have problem on Win (output MOV), if I send out DNG file work nicely. So, from the folder of that DNG I send out to MOV with this version 1.1.4 again and it's work.
Anyone of you who have the problem with MOV output can you try this ?

So, here are the notes :
1. Most MLV files which doesn't work : because the WAV file. Maybe because the length (video and audio) are different, this has an issue for some times. The MLV files of mine without audio work most of the time.
2. The mapping work not on the same level.
- The HDR work most of the time, and give very good image...  :)  thanks baldand, it's really great.
- The sRGB, 709 and log work also but less success than HDR. This is great for LUT and for more room of correction. But as the material RAW or MLV already rich in dynamic so HDR mapping is enough and very beautiful, even without grading (with lens Zeiss Planar 50mm/1.4).
3. The picker White balance working well. This is really time saving, especially for room with colorful lamp or colorful wall and spill the color the the environment. One white spot or shirt will save the whole image in short time.
4. On the landscape (outdoor), most of the time the color is good even without correction white balance. Of course, the white balance on the camera (cloudy, shade, sun, etc) should be correct. I think the metadata from camera is well translated by soft. Is it right ?

@ SoulChildPaul and others : Maybe some conversion has done well also. In my case, because button "W" version 1.1.4 which doesn't work, I use the older version, for example 1.1.2, to open the last folder with button "W" and... 'dang' ... I found on that folder some file which I thought doesn't work but already well converted. The program remember and keep the last folder for the next destination if we didn't change. So with this old version 1.1.2  I decide the present folder for the output and then I use 1.1.4 for converting and there the file arrive.
Maybe some of you who have the same problem can try which I have done : try change MOV and DNG, change mapping sRGB, 709, HDR, etc to confirm the problem.
By the way baldand, for ProRes : this program is the best out there  ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on April 09, 2014, 10:14:52 PM
The whiteblance picker only work with mlv-files right? Couldn,t get it to work with raw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 11, 2014, 03:39:45 PM
Quote from: Danne on April 09, 2014, 10:14:52 PM
The whiteblance picker only work with mlv-files right? Couldn,t get it to work with raw

You are right, sorry about that. It seems like the white balance picker was broken in 1.1.4 for both RAW and CDNG for different reasons. It will be fixed in the next release.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bluewater on April 11, 2014, 04:29:52 PM
Couldn't be better, Baland.

WB picker and MOV output works great. The only thing I hope is adding AdobeRGB mode.
(for taking RAW with Adobe RGB mode of 5D mark3.)
Do you think is it possible?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 11, 2014, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: bluewater on April 11, 2014, 04:29:52 PM
Couldn't be better, Baland.

WB picker and MOV output works great. The only thing I hope is adding AdobeRGB mode.
(for taking RAW with Adobe RGB mode of 5D mark3.)
Do you think is it possible?

Could you add that as an enhancement request on bitbucket (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open)) with a bit more explanation of the workflow you want to achieve.

I'm a little surprised to hear a request for AdobeRGB in a video context. Also, it would be quite independent of any other camera mode settings since the data recorded is raw and does not contain any colour profile. It would just be a different colour matrix and gamma applied afterwards to the data.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bluewater on April 12, 2014, 09:19:02 PM
a.a
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 12, 2014, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: bluewater on April 12, 2014, 09:19:02 PM
You refered to sRGB as a gmma tone not as a color chromacity. right?
(sRGB and Rec.709 share the same chromaticities and White point chromaticitiy.)

Yes. In 1.1.4 the same colour matrix is used in all modes - it's applies the given camera matrix to convert to XYZ, and then the XYZ to sRGB colour.

The only difference between the sRGB and Rec.709 modes is the gamma function applied after that.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on April 14, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
Hi! Created an issue report. Would like to see if more people have this problem?

Issue #62

Trouble with muxing audio from a 5d mark 3 exporting longer sequences of .MLV files. When previewing .mlv files it always creates a full wav audio file which contains the full audio. However when hitting export "E" converting to .mov, the then created wav file for muxing often is shorter missing a big portion of the audio. I had longer .mlv files (containing 3 files or more) that have half the clip muted. So, wav created in preview are fine. Wav created for export to .mov often shorter.

I,m on a macbook pro retina 15 inch, nvidia 750m graphic card. 5d mark 3
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on April 17, 2014, 04:51:17 AM
Is it possible to get full quality realtime playback? I'm planning on buying a pc i7 3770k 3.9ghz with a geforce gtx 660 2gb gddr5... will it work?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 17, 2014, 06:36:45 AM
Quote from: tonybeccar on April 17, 2014, 04:51:17 AM
Is it possible to get full quality realtime playback? I'm planning on buying a pc i7 3770k 3.9ghz with a geforce gtx 660 2gb gddr5... will it work?

No. High quality mode is currently CPU based, and too slow to be real time on most machines. Maybe a 12core MacPro could manage...

To be realtime, it should be on the GPU like the normal mode, but that would need quite some work.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on April 17, 2014, 08:14:28 AM
Ah alright.. I thought both were on GPU also.. would be so sweet. I can notice a huge difference on my big monitor.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Markus on April 17, 2014, 01:27:33 PM
I see that the program also supports cinema dng playback. Would it be possible so extend that support to regular dngs or is the 14bits a problem? Would be great to be able to preview the dng sequences in the same way as is possible with the mlv, raw and cdng-files.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 19, 2014, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: Markus on April 17, 2014, 01:27:33 PM
I see that the program also supports cinema dng playback. Would it be possible so extend that support to regular dngs or is the 14bits a problem? Would be great to be able to preview the dng sequences in the same way as is possible with the mlv, raw and cdng-files.

It should currently handle uncompressed 14bit or 16bit DNG sequences - "CinemaDNG" (e.g. few extra tags) are not a requirement. Certainly the output of raw2dng or mlv_dump should be playable as is.

What it won't handle yet is any kind of lossy or lossless compressed DNGs.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Markus on April 19, 2014, 07:45:19 PM
Oki Kewl! =)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: poromaa on April 20, 2014, 10:19:32 PM
Hi, just tried the latest version (1.1.4) - but if I do MOVs the files are created in an old directory (where i was using it the first time).
Is it possible to change output directory - or shouldn't it just save the output in the same directory as the source (if that is the case, I seem to have found a bug?) Anyway - great work! Use this alot!

OSX v.10.9.2
macbook air
tried several MLV files + MLVs from the latest nightly build

/J
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 20, 2014, 10:23:41 PM
Quote from: poromaa on April 20, 2014, 10:19:32 PM
Hi, just tried the latest version (1.1.4) - but if I do MOVs the files are created in an old directory (where i was using it the first time). N
Is it possible to change output directory - or shouldn't it just save the output in the same directory as the source (if that is the case, I seem to have found a bug?) Anyway - great work! Use this alot!

OSX v.10.9.2
macbook air
tried several MLV files + MLVs from the latest nightly build

/J

Press W to bring up the target directory selection dialog
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: poromaa on April 21, 2014, 06:22:59 PM
oh!
Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: filmio on April 22, 2014, 10:16:47 AM
I have one question, I just downloaded Version 1.1.4 and when I already have the DNGs in MLRawViewer I press W to select export directory it starts flickering and I'am unable to export  :-\ Help!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 24, 2014, 10:27:33 PM
MlRawViewer 1.1.5

I have made test builds of 1.1.5 for Win & Mac which would need a few people to try them out. They are available on bitbucket:
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_5_win32.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_5_win32.zip)
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_5_mac.dmg (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_5_mac.dmg)

The major new feature in this release is that the export queue now supports (background) exporting of both DNGs and ProRes MOVs.

Also, MOV exporting should now use all available CPU cores on Win and Mac, which should make it it significantly faster (my quad core 3770 i7 desktop encodes at 7FPS).

The usage of the queue has changed a bit since 1.1.4. As before, the E key adds an item to the queue using the current settings. But by default the export queue does not start processing as soon as you add something to it. Instead you need to click the red circle, or press the Y key. You can also pause the processing with another press.

The top item on the queue can be cancelled with the X key, and the queue can be reset with Z.

Also, pressing key C will add ALL files in the same directory as the current file, using the same colour balance settings. This might be useful for example if you are looking at a card full of takes from the same scene - one key will export or ProRes encode all of them.

Another feature in this release is a metadata info panel, which is most interesting for MLV files. It shows lens and exposure information.

Yet another feature is the H key, which saves the current colour balance and brightness, and the G key which restores a previously saved setting. This allow you to load one file, e.g. with a colour chart, save that balance, then close down the app and restart with other files from the same scene and restore the value.

There are also assorted other small changes, such as a dialog if you try to close the app while it's exporting, and improved drop-frame playback when disk IO is limited.

The reason it needs testing, is that I have seen some crashes already, possibly from the new multithreaded CPU demosaicing. Please try out the ProRes encoding and let me know details of any crashes you see.

Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on April 24, 2014, 10:48:28 PM
Amazing! Did a fast test queued up 4 mlv files. Exported smooth and fast, fans on my macbook pro working. No crash yet. Gonna do some heavy testing tomorrow when I have better time. I,m on a macbook pro retina 2.6 ghz intel core i7.
You,re the man Baldand!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on April 24, 2014, 10:49:57 PM
Quote from: baldand on April 24, 2014, 10:27:33 PM
MlRawViewer 1.1.5
Thanks!

You are the man Baldand,
Going to test it right now.

Just thought if you already use the metadata why dont you show shot name and take number when using ime module, it would be great.
Also maybe add option to export the files naming after shot name and take number from metadata.

this two adds can save a lot of time and frustration during post.

There are not enough words to describe my appreciation for what you are doing.

David
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on April 24, 2014, 10:59:21 PM
The batch processing use the c key works great for dng and mov.
rendered 7 mlv files

noticed:
1.when finish the pool, record icon stay pressed, so when using c again it start next batch immediately and not waiting for user to press.
2.also if hitting "c" again it ads the same pool again and again - maybe check if pool already aded and inform user to prevent user mistakes.
3.when leaving the app i get the dialog box even after i hit "x" or "z" and cancel or clear the pool.

so far no crashes when rendering both mov and dng.

specs:
5d3 1.2.3
90mps sd card (yes i know the cf are on the way :)
macbook air i5
4gig ram
mavericks

Best
David
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on April 24, 2014, 11:04:48 PM
crashes:
1.application crashes/not responding when hitting "w" to set export directory
*update - this does not happened if i launch the app and then choosing a file to open, it happened when double clicking an mlv to launch the app and then hitting "w".
*Update - after using "w" to set output folder "e" (file name to render) and "y" (render progres)  overlays not showing up but the export happened.
  Also after hitting "w" it takes something like 3-5 sec for dialog box to show up.
 
2.application crashes/not responding when in full screen mode trying to leave app while it rendered or pause rendered - not happening when not full screen - looks like maybe something with the dialog box event.

macbook air
i5 4 gig ram
mavericks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on April 25, 2014, 02:15:14 PM
Tried three instances of mlrawviewer 1.1.5 exporting to three different folders simultaneously trying to overheat my macbook pro. Worked fine though and probably all I need is one app since everything gets queued and now working with multiple cores. Sweet.

All works as advertised. Only bug I could find is when setting output folder "w" which sometimes causes the app to close. When reopening it usually works setting a destination folder. Hard to reproduce but I think it happens when selecting folder the first time. Not always though.
Fine to be able to use whitebalance picker also on .RAW now :)

http://(http://s28.postimg.org/b06cf5wvt/Screen_Shot_2014_04_25_at_14_07_51.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/b06cf5wvt/)

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on April 25, 2014, 02:55:34 PM
Hi!
Fooled around with different settings and now I can,t get any settings to apply to the files I want to export from queue on 1.1.5. Exposure, changing to log etc, doesn,t follow. Instead I get a default file exported with no settings changed? Any ideas? Tried with 1.1.4 and changed settings are applied just fine. Hmm, think this thing have started when I started fiddling with the "c" button. I,m not sure though...

*White balance seem to work, not brightness though. Strange
**tried another computer. Changes in brightness doesn, t follow when exporting from there too

macbook pro retina 15,5, nvidia geforce,
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 25, 2014, 05:37:13 PM
@Danne, @DavidSh

Many thanks for testing out the build and taking time to report the issues.


Quote from: Danne on April 25, 2014, 02:55:34 PM
*White balance seem to work, not brightness though. Strange

Good find! It looks like the brightness setting got lost on its way to the MOV export process during code change. I will fix this.

Quote from: DavidSh on April 24, 2014, 10:49:57 PM
Just thought if you already use the metadata why dont you show shot name and take number when using ime module, it would be great.
Also maybe add option to export the files naming after shot name and take number from metadata.

Sounds like a good pair of suggestions, and should be easy to do.
Quote from: DavidSh on April 24, 2014, 10:59:21 PM
1.when finish the pool, record icon stay pressed, so when using c again it start next batch immediately and not waiting for user to press.
2.also if hitting "c" again it ads the same pool again and again - maybe check if pool already aded and inform user to prevent user mistakes.
3.when leaving the app i get the dialog box even after i hit "x" or "z" and cancel or clear the pool.

I'll fix 1. Not sure about 2 - the user might want to do the whole batch again with different colour balance settings or something? Haven't managed to reproduce 3 yet.

Quote from: DavidSh on April 24, 2014, 11:04:48 PM
crashes:
1.application crashes/not responding when hitting "w" to set export directory
*update - this does not happened if i launch the app and then choosing a file to open, it happened when double clicking an mlv to launch the app and then hitting "w".
*Update - after using "w" to set output folder "e" (file name to render) and "y" (render progres)  overlays not showing up but the export happened.
  Also after hitting "w" it takes something like 3-5 sec for dialog box to show up.
 
2.application crashes/not responding when in full screen mode trying to leave app while it rendered or pause rendered - not happening when not full screen - looks like maybe something with the dialog box event.

The dialog boxes seem to cause many problems in differnt environments. They were only supposed to be a quick temporary solution, so it sounds like I just need to concentrate on replacing them in the next version with an integrated file browser & directory picker view.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: aace on April 25, 2014, 09:15:49 PM
Quote from: baldand on April 24, 2014, 10:27:33 PM
The usage of the queue has changed a bit since 1.1.4. As before, the E key adds an item to the queue using the current settings. But by default the export queue does not start processing as soon as you add something to it. Instead you need to click the red circle, or press the Y key. You can also pause the processing with another press.

The top item on the queue can be cancelled with the X key, and the queue can be reset with Z.

Also, pressing key C will add ALL files in the same directory as the current file, using the same colour balance settings. This might be useful for example if you are looking at a card full of takes from the same scene - one key will export or ProRes encode all of them.

Thanks!

Baldand can you add the new feature shortcut keys to the first page and the homepage? I've been using this app since the first alpha and I didn't know that the E key was changed to "add to queue". Heck didn't know that queuing was possible. I was under the impression that E was to export. Another question, how do we track what's in the render queue?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 25, 2014, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: aace on April 25, 2014, 09:15:49 PM
Baldand can you add the new feature shortcut keys to the first page and the homepage? I've been using this app since the first alpha and I didn't know that the E key was changed to "add to queue". Heck didn't know that queuing was possible. I was under the impression that E was to export. Another question, how do we track what's in the render queue?

I try to keep the front page updated with the latest version linked from. Currently, 1.1.4 is sill the "stable" release, so the information there links to and refers to that. When the link is update to a stable 1.1.5 build or a newer version, I will update the info.

The E key subtly changed function when the export queue was introduced for DNGs. In 1.1.5 it now works the same way for DNG and MOV. Also in 1.1.5, the list of files in the render queue is shown on screen. In 1.1.4, only the top item was shown.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on April 26, 2014, 11:50:49 AM
Quote from: baldand on April 25, 2014, 05:37:13 PM
@Danne, @DavidSh

Many thanks for testing out the build and taking time to report the issues.


Testing and reporting is the least i can do for you and this great app :)

Thought about something from day one i saw this app:
Hiding overlays by pressing a key,
The overlays dissolve is nice and slick, But when previewing a shot on the field or even on the edit table it takes time until they disappear. sometimes they are hiding an area that a user want to see and until they disappear, camera move or shot ended.

Btw,
Do you know on some way using dual iso and export to cdng?

Thanks man
David.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on April 26, 2014, 01:06:24 PM
When trying to convert from cdng to mov application crash.

macbook air
i5 4gig ram
osx mavericks.

Best
David.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: schlemiel29 on April 27, 2014, 02:25:59 PM
I'm a little bit lost.  :-[
Some month before I got it to work, but now I lost the red line.
I recorded MLV files and use MLRaw 1.1.5 to get DNGs. That's ok. Now I want to improve DNGs a little bit bit and create a movie from it.
I have CS5, so I like to use PS5. The new DNGs are not readable by PS5 anymore. But I updated Camera Raw for PS5 so I could open them again. But what next? Can I create a MOV directly with CS5 or do I have to cnonvert them to TIFF and later on use QT Player for putting TIF to MOV????
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on April 27, 2014, 03:22:25 PM
Quote from: schlemiel29 on April 27, 2014, 02:25:59 PM
I'm a little bit lost.  :-[
Some month before I got it to work, but now I lost the red line.
I recorded MLV files and use MLRaw 1.1.5 to get DNGs. That's ok. Now I want to improve DNGs a little bit bit and create a movie from it.
I have CS5, so I like to use PS5. The new DNGs are not readable by PS5 anymore. But I updated Camera Raw for PS5 so I could open them again. But what next? Can I create a MOV directly with CS5 or do I have to cnonvert them to TIFF and later on use QT Player for putting TIF to MOV????
And how this is got to do with MlRawViwer?

Save as tiff and then render to prores mov with qt is not a bad solution. but why dont you render straight to mov from mlRawViewer? prores is quit decent format for color grading.

Best
David
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: olliedale on April 28, 2014, 11:51:50 AM
I have 1.1.4 (n00b)

I started converting today's MLV files to DNG, got half way through, then suddenly I am unable to press the red record button to export the DNG files. Pressing E has no effect either.

I thought I might have a corrupt MLV file, but I can't even export the files I just completed successfully.

Have uninstalled, restarted, etc. Nothing seems to bring the functionality back...


17" MacBook Pro
Mavericks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: olliedale on April 28, 2014, 12:11:33 PM
Quote from: olliedale on April 28, 2014, 11:51:50 AM
I am unable to press the red record button to export the DNG files

17" MacBook Pro
Mavericks


Have tried 1.1.5 to see if the same issue - don't know if you changed the functionality of the little red button but now it just toggles on and off.

I typed W to open the Save To window but the app crashed.

Let me know where to send crash log cos I can't attach it here...

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 29, 2014, 09:11:45 PM
Quote from: olliedale on April 28, 2014, 12:11:33 PM

Have tried 1.1.5 to see if the same issue - don't know if you changed the functionality of the little red button but now it just toggles on and off.

I typed W to open the Save To window but the app crashed.

Let me know where to send crash log cos I can't attach it here...

In 1.1.5, you need to press E to add something to the export queue. The red button maps (or Y key) starts or pauses execution of the currently queued tasks. X & Z can also be used to remove one or all tasks on the queue.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bluewater on April 30, 2014, 04:50:10 PM
Baldand,  how many cores does MIRAWviewer support?
1.1.5 runs 3 times faster than 1.1.4 !!!

Plus, does it any chance to support
1. Noise Reduction 2. constrast adjustment(Auto mode is good, too.) in the FUTURE?

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on April 30, 2014, 05:28:18 PM
Quote from: bluewater on April 30, 2014, 04:50:10 PM
Baldand,  how many cores does MIRAWviewer support?
1.1.5 runs 3 times faster than 1.1.4 !!!

Plus, does it any chance to support
1. Noise Reduction 2. constrast adjustment(Auto mode is good, too.) in the FUTURE?

In 1.1.5 CPU demosaicing (used for MOV export) now uses all available cores.

As a 7D user, I would like to integrate a solution at least for stripe pattern noise and hot/dead pixels in a future release.

Contrast & saturation controls would also be nice to have eventually.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bluewater on May 01, 2014, 01:47:25 PM
Thanx, baldand

I think I don't have to use color grading programs e.g. Resolve or Speedgrade anymore if you have a plan to add some functions; 1. sharpen 2. NR

WB adjustment already makes a decent RAW clips.



=====================================
BTW, I don't know why I got a message like

"This message is awaiting approval by a moderator."
for the first time.

Are there any requirements or something else(donation?) to leave a message here???
Then, I feel really sorry for that.
=====================================


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ted ramasola on May 01, 2014, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: bluewater on May 01, 2014, 01:47:25 PM
=====================================
BTW, I don't know why I got a message like

"This message is awaiting approval by a moderator."
for the first time.

Are there any requirements or something else(donation?) to leave a message here???
Then, I feel really sorry for that.
=====================================

Theres a bug in the system ;) No worries.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on May 01, 2014, 09:50:47 PM
Hey baldand! I can't believe all the feautres you are adding so fast! It's amazing!!!!!! I just exported a prores 444 relatively fast! (i have an i3 mobile, lol) and it looked AMAZING! Looking at the properties I found out that it was 85Mbps only, according to the Prores data rate table, a 1920x1080 23.976p video should be 264 Mbps. I use ffmpeg and I know it doesn't convert with the right bitrate in 444, maybe you can try to force it? Do I make sense?

Here is the table: http://documentation.apple.com/en/finalcutpro/professionalformatsandworkflows/index.html#chapter=10%26section=4%26tasks=true

If you someday add GPU acceleration to all the processes in your program well it will be the most powerful thing EVER!!!!!

Really happy man, thank you very much!!!
Cheers!

EDIT: Oh! And is it possible to add a root folder to the queue? Just like when you hit the C key? That's brillant!!! That would be the ultimate deal when you have your footage in different cards, days, and cameras folders!!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: herrtrigger on May 02, 2014, 10:37:03 PM
Ok I love 1.1.5 on the mac for going to ProRes.  On the PC (Win 8.1) it's really fast but it adds red dots to really black (I'm guessing 0) pixels in the scene.  Doesn't do this to the same clips on the mac.  I searched through this thread to find if someone had an answer but didn't see one.  I apologize ahead of time if this has been asked and answered.

Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nick.p on May 03, 2014, 11:04:30 AM

Quote from: baldand on April 30, 2014, 05:28:18 PM
In 1.1.5 CPU demosaicing (used for MOV export) now uses all available cores.

With my hackintosh overclocked to 4.7ghz I'm getting nearly real time playback. Thanks baldand
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 04, 2014, 12:45:16 AM
great job baland..?

is dual iso support planned on a further release?

thx. sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on May 05, 2014, 12:25:07 AM
Quote from: nick.p on May 03, 2014, 11:04:30 AM
With my hackintosh overclocked to 4.7ghz I'm getting nearly real time playback. Thanks baldand

WOW, can you share your Hackintosh specs? Thanks a lot! (I'm about to build one)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nick.p on May 05, 2014, 04:35:38 AM

Quote from: tonybeccar on May 05, 2014, 12:25:07 AM
WOW, can you share your Hackintosh specs? Thanks a lot! (I'm about to build one)

4770k and a gtx 770 4gb.

I would definitely go with a 780 if I had my time again (the place I bought my parts from didn't have it in stock)  as you can generally only use 4gb of ram on a 770 if it's in sli and davinci resolve lite doesn't support multiple graphics cards. 

I would guess my playback speed is approximately 20fps. Would be awesome to see some gpu processing.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bouncyball on May 07, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
Hi baldand

I've just tested 1.1.5 (win32) version and noticed that when playback paused, pressing the "F" key (Toggle between drop-frame/sequential mode) activates audio only playback from the current position. Then I went  back to version 1.1.4 and experienced the same behavior. Never tried this in earlier builds though. During playback everything is OK. This happens just in pause mode. Is it supposed to be that way or it's a bug?

Thanx for this fantastic app.
BB
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on May 10, 2014, 08:27:08 PM
Quote from: baldand on April 24, 2014, 10:27:33 PM
Also, MOV exporting should now use all available CPU cores on Win and Mac, which should make it it significantly faster (my quad core 3770 i7 desktop encodes at 7FPS).


I'm a noob, can I ask if the multithreading will be easy/possible to implement also for dng export or I can forget about that? :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: edge11 on May 12, 2014, 12:33:13 PM
Does 1.1.5 have chromasoothing?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 12, 2014, 07:22:40 PM
Quote from: edge11 on May 12, 2014, 12:33:13 PM
Does 1.1.5 have chromasoothing?

No, because it does not use mlv_dump or and code from ML for raw processing.

It is possible that a later version will include similar functionality to cover both dual-function (pink dot) pixel hiding and noise reduction.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 12, 2014, 07:28:01 PM
Quote from: togg on May 10, 2014, 08:27:08 PM
I'm a noob, can I ask if the multithreading will be easy/possible to implement also for dng export or I can forget about that? :)

In current versions of MlRawViewer, DNG export is mainly disk I/O limited, not CPU limited. In general, (more) multi-threading will not speed it up.

In later versions, there may be more processing done as part of the DNG export process. As much as possible, I will try to use the GPU for that, since for many operations it can be significantly faster than any CPU.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 12, 2014, 07:29:18 PM
Quote from: bouncyball on May 07, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
Hi baldand

I've just tested 1.1.5 (win32) version and noticed that when playback paused, pressing the "F" key (Toggle between drop-frame/sequential mode) activates audio only playback from the current position. Then I went  back to version 1.1.4 and experienced the same behavior. Never tried this in earlier builds though. During playback everything is OK. This happens just in pause mode. Is it supposed to be that way or it's a bug?

Thanx for this fantastic app.
BB

It's a bug. Thanks for the report. You can also report issues (and feature requests) directly to the issue tracker: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 12, 2014, 07:43:08 PM
Quote from: swinxx on May 04, 2014, 12:45:16 AM
great job baland..?

is dual iso support planned on a further release?

thx. sw

You can add it to the enhancements list on bitbucket, but it might be a challenge.

I don't have a 5d3, only a 7D, so I don't have and can't make any dual ISO recordings :-(

Also it would need to use or integrate cr2hdr for high quality processing, and I don't know how practical that would be.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 13, 2014, 06:36:01 AM
Great! I will do that! I could also send you some dual iso shots! Please pm your email. I can send you a wetransfer link of a 5dmk3 dual iso video. Greets
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: poromaa on May 13, 2014, 10:59:17 AM
Would be great if you had nightlies or compiled versions that one could test of the latest 1.1.5?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 5DanielMIII on May 13, 2014, 02:43:17 PM
Hi @baldand


I love this program and it has saved me so much time before editing.
So thanks!  :)

I just wanted to mention that on my MacBook Pro 10.9.2 when I hit W in 1.1.5 everything freeeeezes / hangs and I have to force close it.
So I can not choose where to save my export.

Anything I am missing here or I am doing wrong!?

Regards,
Daniel
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on May 13, 2014, 03:33:56 PM
check reply #483
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 5DanielMIII on May 13, 2014, 04:30:13 PM
Quote from: Danne on May 13, 2014, 03:33:56 PM
check reply #483

confirmed my only issue in life!
Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 13, 2014, 07:24:04 PM
Quote from: poromaa on May 13, 2014, 10:59:17 AM
Would be great if you had nightlies or compiled versions that one could test of the latest 1.1.5?

Yes that could be useful, especially if there would be more code contributions coming in.

Does anybody want to volunteer to set up that kind of automatic regular build & packaging for Mac and Windows?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on May 17, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: baldand on May 12, 2014, 07:28:01 PM
In current versions of MlRawViewer, DNG export is mainly disk I/O limited, not CPU limited. In general, (more) multi-threading will not speed it up.

In later versions, there may be more processing done as part of the DNG export process. As much as possible, I will try to use the GPU for that, since for many operations it can be significantly faster than any CPU.

oook, thanks for the answer and the great work :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 17, 2014, 09:42:23 PM
hi baland!

i wanted to try out mlrawviewer 1.1.5 on a macbook pro.. everything seems to work fine except "w"... (selecting directory)
when i press "w" the prog crashes.
strange..
thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on May 17, 2014, 10:16:15 PM
Quote from: swinxx on May 17, 2014, 09:42:23 PM
hi baland!

i wanted to try out mlrawviewer 1.1.5 on a macbook pro.. everything seems to work fine except "w"... (selecting directory)
when i press "w" the prog crashes.
strange..
thx
Dear swinxx,

It is a known issue wich Bladand is trying to solve...

Best
David
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jbowdach on May 18, 2014, 12:26:55 AM


Any chance of adding any type of metadata, ala tapename from the filename to assist with proxie workflow in resolve, etc?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: optik on May 19, 2014, 07:22:21 PM
Hi Baland

Here is my issue, I some how lost functionality on export I've been using MlRawViewer since the first version and always use the E key to export I understand the new changes that were made in
MlRawViewer 1.1.5 like making sure to click the red button then press the E for export and it was working fine for about 10-15 few clips but now I get no response when trying it out any suggestions would be awesome. Ive re-downloaded MlRawViewer older 1.1.4 and get the same thing  :-\

Anyone  :-[
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Budders on May 20, 2014, 09:54:30 AM
With 1.1.5, my DNG files look OK that I exported out of MLVMystic v0.5 look fine and have no video artifacts, as does the video when I open it in MLRawViewer 1.1.5, however when I export the clips out as MOV, anything dark in color artifacts horrible with colorful noise. The clips are still usable as proxies since they're just reference, but it makes it really tough to edit with...anyone else getting this issue? I tried searching but got no mention of this problem anywhere else.

EDIT: I have now found that it only does this using the sRGB and REC709 settings. The HDR setting seems to work just fine, the LOG setting has highlights that come out magenta where overblown.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: simulacro on May 20, 2014, 10:12:27 AM
Quote from: Budders on May 20, 2014, 09:54:30 AM
anyone else getting this issue? I tried searching but got no mention of this problem anywhere else.

I have a macbook and have the same problem, but it seems it's due to the graphic card. I can't use FCPX for the same reason (Intel GMA X3100 144 MB)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pettermannen on May 20, 2014, 02:19:20 PM
Hi! First of all, a great thank you for achieving making this software. As i scrolled down this topic i can´t find anything on how to extract the sound file from the mlv-file. How do i do that? I have enabled sound in the prefs though.

Best regards

Pettermannen
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Petter Sand on May 21, 2014, 02:21:51 PM
Hi! I found it, forgot to enable MLVsound in MLsound-menu.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: optik on May 22, 2014, 05:05:23 AM
Quote from: optik on May 19, 2014, 07:22:21 PM
Hi Baland

Here is my issue, I some how lost functionality on export I've been using MlRawViewer since the first version and always use the E key to export I understand the new changes that were made in
MlRawViewer 1.1.5 like making sure to click the red button then press the E for export and it was working fine for about 10-15 few clips but now I get no response when trying it out any suggestions would be awesome. Ive re-downloaded MlRawViewer older 1.1.4 and get the same thing  :-\

Anyone  :-[ I have went all the way back to 1.1.0 and still getting the same thing all buttons and functions seem to work except when I go to export it does nothing really appreciate if someone can point me in the right direction as this is extremely frustrating and annoying since I have used the app many times with no such problem. The only thing that I could think that happened was something got broke when I updated to 10.9.3 would love to hear feedback if anyone has it working under 10.9.3  However MLV Dumper v1.0 works fine :-\
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Johannes on May 26, 2014, 04:14:17 AM
Hey Guys,

at first thanks to the mlv create directory option.

I have since vers. 1.1.4 strange things with the Prores Codec.

with 1.1.3 fine   with 1.1.5 fine with dng 

but 1.1.4 and 1.1.5 ProRes green, blue and some red dots in the shadows.

longer rendertime - more blue also in the midtones.

strange for me.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: fascina on May 26, 2014, 10:46:22 PM
Did I unterstand it right that MlRawViewer does support MLV to DNG conversion for single files, but no batch conversion for several files?

So "MLV to DNG Batch Converter" and "MLV BrowseSharp" are the only Windows GUIs available for converting several MLV files to DNGs, right?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 26, 2014, 10:55:12 PM
Quote from: fascina on May 26, 2014, 10:46:22 PM
Did I unterstand it right that MlRawViewer does support MLV to DNG conversion for single files, but no batch conversion for several files?

So "MLV to DNG Batch Converter" and "MLV BrowseSharp" are the only Windows GUIs available for converting several MLV files to DNGs, right?

No, you didn't understand it quite right.

MlRawViewer has an export queue to which you can add many jobs (using E key), either for DNG or MOV exports, even different sections from the same file. Then you can independently control starting or pausing execution of the queue (using Y key of circle icon).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 26, 2014, 11:16:26 PM
MlRawViewer 1.1.6

You can now get MlRawViewer 1.1.6 packages for Mac and Windows from bitbucket:

Mac: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_6_mac.dmg (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_6_mac.dmg)
Win: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_6_win32.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_6_win32.zip)

Hopefully there will be no more crashes when using any of the file selection dialogs.
In addition, if the current target directory seems to be invalid, it will ask you for a new one.

I've added an icon - the "+" is the same as the E key for adding the current clip to the export queue. The red circle is used to start and pause the export queue.

Finally, there is one (big) experimental feature which I would be interested to hear feedback about.

If you press the 0 (zero) key, a GPU preprocessing pass will be enabled. This is used for display, and also when exporting DNGs or MOVs if it is enabled when you add to the queue.

Currently, the preprocessing attempts to suppress stripes and any "bad pixels" (hot, cold, or other use such as focusing) it can identify.
For those cameras with pink dots, it may be able to get rid of some of them without the need for chroma smoothing.

In later versions, it may also be able to do some kind of noise reduction.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 27, 2014, 12:27:25 AM
whow that sounds so great thank you very much..
i wonder if mlrawviewer also support vertical stripe correction?

thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Johannes on May 27, 2014, 12:49:00 AM
simply same prob with 1.1.6

but not when I use LOG gamma curve. others I didnt tried.

What ProRes Codec is it 444 or...?


Here how my problem look like..:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bzm-dWxWHoKWR2pLN3ROTUJmUkE&usp=sharing
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on May 27, 2014, 01:44:57 AM
Oboy is this welcome :)
I immidietaley had a problem with audio. When going through clips with k and J key and starting jumping looking through the clips adding to queue etc quite often I don,t get at preview with audio throughout the whole clip. It extracts the whole audiofile but the viewer doesn,t seem to recognize the whole audio part. SOmetimes it works, sometimes it doesn,t. It stops in the middle or at the end. It does, however exports the clip with the audio even though it can,t be heard so its a preview thing. Compared It to version 1.5, and the problem starts with version 1.6. 1.5 previews audio fine.
I ran three different .MLV files of different length on a macbook pro retina 15, OSX mavericks, 5d mark 3.
Thanks for your good work
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 27, 2014, 06:21:33 AM
Quote from: swinxx on May 27, 2014, 12:27:25 AM
whow that sounds so great thank you very much..
i wonder if mlrawviewer also support vertical stripe correction?

thx

Yes, the (experimental) preprocessing affects both vertical and horizontal stripes.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 27, 2014, 06:23:38 AM
Quote from: Johannes on May 27, 2014, 12:49:00 AM
simply same prob with 1.1.6

but not when I use LOG gamma curve. others I didnt tried.

What ProRes Codec is it 444 or...?


Here how my problem look like..:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bzm-dWxWHoKWR2pLN3ROTUJmUkE&usp=sharing

What camera do you use?

What OS?

What kind of GPU do you have?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 27, 2014, 06:24:13 AM
Quote from: Danne on May 27, 2014, 01:44:57 AM
Oboy is this welcome :)
I immidietaley had a problem with audio. When going through clips with k and J key and starting jumping looking through the clips adding to queue etc quite often I don,t get at preview with audio throughout the whole clip. It extracts the whole audiofile but the viewer doesn,t seem to recognize the whole audio part. SOmetimes it works, sometimes it doesn,t. It stops in the middle or at the end. It does, however exports the clip with the audio even though it can,t be heard so its a preview thing. Compared It to version 1.5, and the problem starts with version 1.6. 1.5 previews audio fine.
I ran three different .MLV files of different length on a macbook pro retina 15, OSX mavericks, 5d mark 3.
Thanks for your good work

Cannot reproduce yet, but I will look into this.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on May 27, 2014, 08:30:24 AM
Hi Baldand.
Since the .mlv clips I tested with used an older ml version I tried film a bunch of new .mlv clips with a newer firmware. With the newer build on my  canon 5d mark 3 firmware 1.1.3 I couldn,t reproduce the audio problem. Everything worked fine. It seems be related to older builds or something else must have corrupted the clips.
Have not tested everything yet but exposure changes working again. Awesome :).
massive thanks on this one!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pc_bel on May 27, 2014, 10:24:48 AM
Just a simple test if it can help.
For me vertical stripes correction doesn't work. First image is from 1.5 and second from 1.6. Same vertical stripes in both.

(http://i62.tinypic.com/1zekxsx.jpg)

(http://i61.tinypic.com/a4bix2.jpg)


Anyway, the rest of the improvements are great!!!

Thanks.
5Dmk3 1.1.3 KomputerBay 1000x 64Gb Nightly 6 may 2014

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 27, 2014, 10:58:34 AM
Quote from: pc_bel on May 27, 2014, 10:24:48 AM
Just a simple test if it can help.
For me vertical stripes correction doesn't work. First image is from 1.5 and second from 1.6. Same vertical stripes in both.


...

Anyway, the rest of the improvements are great!!!

Thanks.
5Dmk3 1.1.3 KomputerBay 1000x 64Gb Nightly 6 may 2014
Silly question, but did you turn on the correction by pressing the zero key? Did you see any difference on screen when you toggled it on and off?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pc_bel on May 27, 2014, 11:24:41 AM
Not a silly question... Not as silly as me!!!!

Now pressing 0 before export:

(http://i60.tinypic.com/9te4xf.jpg)

Not completely gonne, but much better!!!... Image is adjusted for a bad scenario, and the results are much better than before with 1.5

Thanks for the answer and sorry for the mistake.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 27, 2014, 02:53:03 PM
Ah, so it only corrects if gpu is working??
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 27, 2014, 03:34:20 PM
Quote from: swinxx on May 27, 2014, 02:53:03 PM
Ah, so it only corrects if gpu is working??

It's optional - zero key switches it on and off. It's off by default so you need to switch it on if you want it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 27, 2014, 03:46:33 PM
Would it be possible to implement it as always on? Is there a scenario where i dont want to correct the stripes vert/horiz?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 27, 2014, 03:52:10 PM
Quote from: swinxx on May 27, 2014, 03:46:33 PM
Would it be possible to implement it as always on? Is there a scenario where i dont want to correct the stripes vert/horiz?

In a later release the setting will become persistent, so once you turn it on it stays in. But first I want hear enough reports of it working OK, or not.

By the way, in case anyone is curious: The stripe correction is calculated (By the GPU) freshly for every frame, so it should handle the pattern changing over time, e.g. in a long clip.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 27, 2014, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: pc_bel on May 27, 2014, 11:24:41 AM
Not a silly question... Not as silly as me!!!!
No
Now pressing 0 before export:

...

Not completely gonne, but much better!!!... Image is adjusted for a bad scenario, and the results are much better than before with 1.5

Thanks for the answer and sorry for the mistake.

Is there any chance you could provide me the MLV or a DNG (with preprocessing turned off) from that shot so I can see if the algorithm can be tweaked for better results?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jbowdach on May 27, 2014, 08:24:11 PM
The new GPU features are awesome!!! Def will be trying that on any line shots I have,

my apologies if this was asked,  but is ther any way to add the filename of the MLV as a reel\tape name metadata to the Proxies? That would make the round tripping process significantly easier, and I wouldn't need to make my proxies in Resolve (as it adds that metadata, which really helps ensure the return part of the round trip is easy). Is this something that can be implemented easily?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 27, 2014, 09:33:15 PM
Quote from: Jbowdach on May 27, 2014, 08:24:11 PM
The new GPU features are awesome!!! Def will be trying that on any line shots I have,

my apologies if this was asked,  but is ther any way to add the filename of the MLV as a reel\tape name metadata to the Proxies? That would make the round tripping process significantly easier, and I wouldn't need to make my proxies in Resolve (as it adds that metadata, which really helps ensure the return part of the round trip is easy). Is this something that can be implemented easily?

It depends on the details. Can you make an enhancement request to bitbucket specifying exactly how you would like it to work - e.g. exactly what metadata tags you expect to be set to what kind of values in which kind of files - with examples if possible. That will help.

Even better if you can tell me what ffmpeg command options should be used to achieve the right results.

Link: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jbowdach on May 27, 2014, 09:57:04 PM
Quote from: baldand on May 27, 2014, 09:33:15 PM
It depends on the details. Can you make an enhancement request to bitbucket specifying exactly how you would like it to work - e.g. exactly what metadata tags you expect to be set to what kind of values in which kind of files - with examples if possible. That will help.

Even better if you can tell me what ffmpeg command options should be used to achieve the right results.

Link: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open)
no problem, will put in features request w details
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bluewater on May 28, 2014, 08:56:14 AM
Thank you, baldand.
After testing 1.1.6 ver, today I found some weird thing about bitrate of clips.
If I put the setting default, the total bitrate of 7s-clip is 159Mbps.
While I changed WB and brightness the total bitrate skyrockets to 233Mbps (a whopping 46% up!)

I don't think the image quality of the WB-modified clip is 46% higher than the default clip. (no sharpening, no NR.)
If you didn't not intend to do this, could you fix it?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 28, 2014, 10:33:35 AM
Quote from: bluewater on May 28, 2014, 08:56:14 AM
Thank you, baldand.
After testing 1.1.6 ver, today I found some weird thing about bitrate of clips. by
If I put the setting default, the total bitrate of 7s-clip is 159Mbps.
While I changed WB and brightness the total bitrate skyrockets to 233Mbps (a whopping 46% up!)

I don't think the image quality of the WB-modified clip is 46% higher than the default clip. (no sharpening, no NR.)
If you didn't not intend to do this, could you fix it?

The current prores encoding is for a fixed qscale rather than fixed bitrate, because that encodes faster. What this means is that quality should stay constant, but the bitrate will rise and fall as needed.

By raising brightness, you probably made some dark pixels and noise more visible, and according to the visual quality measurement, that needed more bits.

Fix bitrate could be an option in the future if it is much in demand.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 28, 2014, 01:55:04 PM
Hi baland.. Have you got my dual iso mlvs??
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hdclip on May 28, 2014, 04:47:29 PM
Hello Baland!!!! I have this problem when i apply Srgb and Rec709 curve...there are points yellow and blue in movement in the frame, in this picture is not very apparent but when I play the footage is very visual...I have 7d camera with the last build 24/05/2014, windows 7 and nvidia geforce gtx295 graphic´s


Thank´s!!!!!!!!
(http://i59.tinypic.com/n4vchu.jpg)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/doqnf5.jpg)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 28, 2014, 04:57:13 PM
Quote from: hdclip on May 28, 2014, 04:47:29 PM
Hello Baland!!!! I have this problem when i apply Srgb and Rec709 curve...there are points yellow and blue in movement in the frame, in this picture is not very apparent but when I play the footage is very visual...I have 7d camera with the last build 24/05/2014, windows 7 and nvidia geforce gtx295 graphic´s


Thank´s!!!!!!!!

Which version of MlRawViewer? Linear and HDR modes look ok?

It sounds like it might be a GPU issue. Make sure you have the latest NVIDIA drivers you can get.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hdclip on May 28, 2014, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: baldand on May 28, 2014, 04:57:13 PM
Which version of MlRawViewer? Linear and HDR modes look ok?

It sounds like it might be a GPU issue. Make sure you have the latest NVIDIA drivers you can get.

Hello!!!!is the last version of MLRAWviewer 1.1.6 and with HDR work´s fine...I dont use the linear curve.I try the Rec709 and Srgb curves.I like very much the Srgb curve.
I change the graphic card and it make´s the same issue.

Thankyou very much and congratulation´s for the software, is very very very very nice!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 28, 2014, 10:20:43 PM
Quote from: swinxx on May 28, 2014, 01:55:04 PM
Hi baland.. Have you got my dual iso mlvs??

Yes, thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 28, 2014, 10:38:26 PM
perfect. so i hope it will help.. greets
is there a possibility to implement stripe correction into cpu mode? thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 29, 2014, 12:06:45 AM
i am just testing the new 0 key gpu function with one mlv file from a nightly build from january17.
when i try to change wb after i pressed zero the shot is tinted green, when i press zero again and change wb it looks good but can not be changed?
how can i now check if gpu is activated?
thx

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: djefaivre on May 29, 2014, 09:26:13 AM
Hi Thomas

I bought RawMagic 1.1 and tried to use it for a shooting I had last weekend. I shot with 7D in the legacy .raw format (I find it more stable and had no need for sound). This is the issue I came across : when converting spanned files, Rawmagic converted the images of the R00 R01 etc parts in totally black dng's. So my DNG sequences only had the images of the .RAW part and then it was filled with black...

I tried converting with rawmagic lite (1.1), and didn't had this problem : I got all the DNG of the R0* parts wright.

Did you notice this issue before ? Will it be fixed in the next version of RawMagic ?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 29, 2014, 09:52:49 AM
Quote from: swinxx on May 28, 2014, 10:38:26 PM
perfect. so i hope it will help.. greets
is there a possibility to implement stripe correction into cpu mode? thx

It already is. When it's switched on and you do a MOV export (which uses CPU demosaicing), the stripe correction is used.

It's also used when exporting DNGs.

Quote from: swinxx on May 29, 2014, 12:06:45 AM
i am just testing the new 0 key gpu function with one mlv file from a nightly build from january17.
when i try to change wb after i pressed zero the shot is tinted green, when i press zero again and change wb it looks good but can not be changed?
how can i now check if gpu is activated?
thx

Confirmed, it's a bug. As a workaround, do the white balance with the preprocessing turned off, then switch it on. I'll fix in the next release. Sorry about that!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 29, 2014, 10:00:43 AM
Quote from: djefaivre on May 29, 2014, 09:26:13 AM
Hi Thomas

I bought RawMagic 1.1 and tried to use it for a shooting I had last weekend. I shot with 7D in the legacy .raw format (I find it more stable and had no need for sound). This is the issue I came across : when converting spanned files, Rawmagic converted the images of the R00 R01 etc parts in totally black dng's. So my DNG sequences only had the images of the .RAW part and then it was filled with black...

I tried converting with rawmagic lite (1.1), and didn't had this problem : I got all the DNG of the R0* parts wright.

Did you notice this issue before ? Will it be fixed in the next version of RawMagic ?

Hi. I'm afraid you are in the wrong thread. You probably meant to post to the RawMagic thread: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6218.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6218.0)

However, while you are here in the MlRawViewer thread, you might be interested to try out MlRawViewer 1.1.6, which works on Mac, supports batch processing of multi part RAW files to CDNG sequences, and is free ;)  http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165)




Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 29, 2014, 01:59:36 PM
hi baland.
sorry to ask again but i have a lack of understanding..

so how can i turn on off the stripes correction?
is it turned on off with the zero key - cause if this is the case, when i turn off gpu the stripes correction is also turned of, no?

thx for your effort and time.
re
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 29, 2014, 05:29:36 PM
Quote from: swinxx on May 29, 2014, 01:59:36 PM
hi baland.
sorry to ask again but i have a lack of understanding..

so how can i turn on off the stripes correction?
is it turned on off with the zero key - cause if this is the case, when i turn off gpu the stripes correction is also turned of, no?

thx for your effort and time.
re

Don't worry about the GPU. Everything in MlRawViewer uses the GPU (with the exception of the higher quality demosaicing).

The zero key only turns on (at first) then off (if it is on) the extra processing to remove stripes & bad pixels.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 29, 2014, 05:39:44 PM
@Johannes & @hdclip

I've made a bug report for your coloured spots problem here: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/72/coloured-spots-in-mov-exports-with-114-115 (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/72/coloured-spots-in-mov-exports-with-114-115)

Please add there all additional information you can to help me track down the cause of the problem. Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 29, 2014, 05:56:51 PM
hello baland..

alright, thank you
so, can you ( in a further release) give us a hint if the correction is turned on or off..  cause now i only can guess.

thx.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 29, 2014, 06:00:35 PM
Quote from: swinxx on May 29, 2014, 05:56:51 PM
hello baland..

alright, thank you
so, can you ( in a further release) give us a hint if the correction is turned on or off..  cause now i only can guess.

thx.

Yes I will add a state icon that also toggles it. Just wanted to get feedback on it first (hence calling it "experimental").

Though if you can only guess if its on, that might be a bad sign that it's not actually working well for you? Do you see the (vertical) stripes go away or not?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: toniox on May 29, 2014, 06:27:25 PM
Hi Baldand. This is great news for Canon EOS M user, it remove pink dots nicely, but it is still visible if you watch carefully. I've test on two MLV of 160 frames, it remove pink dots after the 30 first frames.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 29, 2014, 06:29:34 PM
no, but i see no stripes at all :)

what i see is some pink and greenish dots (depends on the shot) when zero is pressed.. don´t know if it has something to do with wb issue..
greets.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hdclip on May 29, 2014, 09:16:42 PM
Here every curves test....


(http://i58.tinypic.com/v2s575.jpg)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on May 29, 2014, 09:28:51 PM
ah i found a clip with stripes - stripes correction with zero key seems to work well
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 29, 2014, 09:53:09 PM
Quote from: toniox on May 29, 2014, 06:27:25 PM
Hi Baldand. This is great news for Canon EOS M user, it remove pink dots nicely, but it is still visible if you watch carefully. I've test on two MLV of 160 frames, it remove pink dots after the 30 first frames.

Thanks for testing this out. You could also try some test shots where the camera is moved or the content changes quite much - it's possible the pink dots are detected better in that case.

It would be great if you could share a few test MLV files with me so I could develop it further.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: chmee on May 30, 2014, 01:27:21 AM
@hdclip
would you support our samples-library with such a 7d-file? please read here:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11899.0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hdclip on May 30, 2014, 06:31:27 AM
Quote from: chmee on May 30, 2014, 01:27:21 AM
@hdclip
would you support our samples-library with such a 7d-file? please read here:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11899.0

Of course, I will do!!! ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MA Visuals on May 30, 2014, 07:23:34 AM
Quote from: hdclip on May 28, 2014, 04:47:29 PM
Hello Baland!!!! I have this problem when i apply Srgb and Rec709 curve...there are points yellow and blue in movement in the frame, in this picture is not very apparent but when I play the footage is very visual...I have 7d camera with the last build 24/05/2014, windows 7 and nvidia geforce gtx295 graphic´s

I get the same exact thing as hdclip has reported.  Both the sRGB and Rec709 export to MOV have blue blotches (with some green blotches) in the dark areas with every clip I tested.  Highlights seem ok.   LOG, Linear, HDR export fine.  The clips were shot with the latest nightly build for 5D3 using MLV.   I had already downloaded the latest NVIDIA drivers.    I also tried the use the experimental 0 key prior to export and the issue remains either way. 

I can provide an MLV file that shows the issue if it helps... just let me know how you need me to send it to you.

(http://i62.tinypic.com/1zxxgty.jpg)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hdclip on May 30, 2014, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: MA Visuals on May 30, 2014, 07:23:34 AM
I get the same exact thing as hdclip has reported.  Both the sRGB and Rec709 export to MOV have blue blotches (with some green blotches) in the dark areas with every clip I tested.  Highlights seem ok.   LOG, Linear, HDR export fine.  The clips were shot with the latest nightly build for 5D3 using MLV.   I had already downloaded the latest NVIDIA drivers.    I also tried the use the experimental 0 key prior to export and the issue remains either way. 

I can provide an MLV file that shows the issue if it helps... just let me know how you need me to send it to you.

(http://i62.tinypic.com/1zxxgty.jpg)


Maybe Nvidia geforce problem????
Nice Parrot!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: GooD on May 30, 2014, 04:18:54 PM
Quote from: optik on May 19, 2014, 07:22:21 PM
Hi Baland

Here is my issue, I some how lost functionality on export I've been using MlRawViewer since the first version and always use the E key to export I understand the new changes that were made in
MlRawViewer 1.1.5 like making sure to click the red button then press the E for export and it was working fine for about 10-15 few clips but now I get no response when trying it out any suggestions would be awesome. Ive re-downloaded MlRawViewer older 1.1.4 and get the same thing  :-\

Anyone  :-[

I have the same issue:(
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 30, 2014, 04:20:13 PM
Quote from: GooD on May 30, 2014, 04:18:54 PM
I have the same issue:(
Also with 1.1.6?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: GooD on May 30, 2014, 04:27:23 PM
Quote from: baldand on May 30, 2014, 04:20:13 PM
Also with 1.1.6?
Yes
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 30, 2014, 05:57:09 PM
Quote from: GooD on May 30, 2014, 04:27:23 PM
Yes

Hmm... I was hoping this had been fixed in 1.1.6 as it now checks that the xport path is valid. But I guess the problem must be caused by something else.

Could you find the ".mlrawviewer" folder in your user home directory, send me a copy of the folder and all the files in it (it's small).

Then you can delete the folder, and that will probably work around the problem so that it doesn't fail on exports.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MA Visuals on May 30, 2014, 07:07:10 PM
Quote from: hdclip on May 30, 2014, 11:21:56 AM

Maybe Nvidia geforce problem????
Nice Parrot!!!! ;)

Could be... I'm using an Nvidia GeForce 560M.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hdclip on May 31, 2014, 12:38:25 AM
Quote from: MA Visuals on May 30, 2014, 07:07:10 PM
Could be... I'm using an Nvidia GeForce 560M.

I try with Nvidia geforce 210 and geforce gtx 295...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ariaelf on May 31, 2014, 06:18:59 AM
I can't get MlRawViewer to export... not sure if it's the program or I'm doing something wrong.

It just stays stuck at 0.0% for forever :/

Suggestions?

(http://s29.postimg.org/tbhvmizvb/MLviewerstuck.jpg)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 31, 2014, 06:34:08 AM
Quote from: ariaelf on May 31, 2014, 06:18:59 AM
I can't get MlRawViewer to export... not sure if it's the program or I'm doing something wrong.

It just stays stuck at 0.0% for forever :/

Suggestions?


Click the red circle icon, or press Y
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ariaelf on May 31, 2014, 06:39:08 AM
I finally figured that out :D Thanks though!

Okay, next quirk (because it can't be THAT easy, right?)

It exported *this*...
(the color should have been the same as in my last posted image)

(http://s13.postimg.org/nzjf0n3zr/wtf.jpg)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Rewind on May 31, 2014, 08:55:28 AM
Every time I try to export to mov, I get crash with the following:
(http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/kiss_46kb.1401519129.jpg)

The error is consistent for 1.1.4 - 1.1.6 versions , deleting the .mlrawviewer from user folder doesn't help.
Win 8.1 x64, UAC disabled
works with dng's though

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on May 31, 2014, 09:35:13 AM
Quote from: Rewind on May 31, 2014, 08:55:28 AM
Every time I try to export to mov, I get crash with the following:
[img...

The error is consistent for 1.1.4 - 1.1.6 versions , deleting the .mlrawviewer from user folder doesn't help.
Win 8.1 x64, UAC disabled
works with dng's though

Was this with .RAW files or .MLV? There was a bug with .RAW exports to MOV which will be fixed in the next release.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hdclip on May 31, 2014, 09:42:24 AM
Quote from: ariaelf on May 31, 2014, 06:39:08 AM
I finally figured that out :D Thanks though!

Okay, next quirk (because it can't be THAT easy, right?)

It exported *this*...
(the color should have been the same as in my last posted image)



Which Graphic card do you have???
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Rewind on May 31, 2014, 10:05:21 AM
Quote from: baldand on May 31, 2014, 09:35:13 AM
Was this with .RAW files or .MLV? There was a bug with .RAW exports to MOV which will be fixed in the next release.

Oh, forgot that — yes, it was *.raw. Thank you.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ariaelf on May 31, 2014, 12:04:24 PM
Quote from: hdclip on May 31, 2014, 09:42:24 AM
Which Graphic card do you have???

NVIDIA GeForce GTX-460
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hdclip on May 31, 2014, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: ariaelf on May 31, 2014, 12:04:24 PM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX-460
What do you think Baldand????another Nvidia... ::)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ariaelf on June 01, 2014, 12:20:08 PM
Quote from: hdclip on May 31, 2014, 01:13:12 PM
What do you think Baldand????another Nvidia... ::)

Very popular brand... no reason to assume it's the card. Never seen anything like this happen on any other kind of media or video rendering via AE or Premiere.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: JxM on June 01, 2014, 07:39:41 PM
Hey guys!

Firstly, thanks for this great app!

As I've noticed on some previous posts, some of user were having problems exporting DNGs. I also have this problem; when I open and add my file to the export que (or press E) and after it pops up in the que, I try to export it with the red button (or with pressing Y), nothing happens. The que just disappears. Same goes to exporting to MOV.

I'm using v1.1.6 on my Late 2011 17'' MacBook Pro.

Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: poromaa on June 01, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
JxM:
Have you tried to first set the output-directory (W)? I had this problem before in an earlier build where the output directory was pointing to a removed folder.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rrrmusic on June 01, 2014, 08:03:15 PM
Please add the 1.61x to unsqueeze the 5D 50/60 fps footage.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on June 01, 2014, 08:11:23 PM
If you press A you get a correst aspect ratio at least. Can,t convert though :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: JxM on June 01, 2014, 08:37:03 PM
Quote from: poromaa on June 01, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
JxM:
Have you tried to first set the output-directory (W)? I had this problem before in an earlier build where the output directory was pointing to a removed folder.

Well, I did. But now, mentioning this, I checked it again and, similar to your case, my folder was renamed. Setting the directory did the trick. So embarrassed right now. Thanks!! :D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rrrmusic on June 01, 2014, 11:08:32 PM
Hi Danne I tried that but is not 1.61x is 1.4x




Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on June 02, 2014, 12:39:36 AM
I see. You could try put it up here I think.
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Johannes on June 02, 2014, 04:57:57 AM
Quote from: baldand on May 27, 2014, 06:23:38 AM
What camera do you use?

What OS?

What kind of GPU do you have?


5D III

Win7 64

Phantom 770GTX 2GB

about .. the issue with the bad pixels in shadows and after longer render in more areas.

not with log and only after rendering with proRes.


Thanks for the great work !!!


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nick.p on June 02, 2014, 08:05:00 AM
I think I'm also experiencing it with a gtx 780
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mario1000 on June 02, 2014, 08:44:49 AM
I´ve got the same problem with a GT730M.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.4 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: GooD on June 02, 2014, 09:59:07 AM
Quote from: baldand on May 30, 2014, 05:57:09 PM
Hmm... I was hoping this had been fixed in 1.1.6 as it now checks that the xport path is valid. But I guess the problem must be caused by something else.

Could you find the ".mlrawviewer" folder in your user home directory, send me a copy of the folder and all the files in it (it's small).

Then you can delete the folder, and that will probably work around the problem so that it doesn't fail on exports.

Here you are: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0eKXjSwHrNGNkpLcTdwZ3lEeHM/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: poromaa on June 04, 2014, 09:37:58 AM
I reported an issue about encoder stopping if display goes to sleep.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: davegravy on June 05, 2014, 04:15:58 PM
Baldand, as requested I PMed you links to some sample RAW footage with pink dots from my 650D. Please let me know once you've dl/ed them so I can clear up some space on my Dropbox acct.

Thanks,

Dave
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kuky on June 05, 2014, 04:34:24 PM
Hi,

If you shoot crop mode (x5 zoom) with a 5D Mark III and use FPS override (for example 24 exact FPS) MlRawViewer will report 29,776 fps. Maybe it's a metadata mistake.

I verified shooting a timer watch in crop mode. It's actually using the override setting. Here is an actual file (2,2 Gb): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ncQl4hSqlnR096bXNWbk1PYTQ/edit?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ncQl4hSqlnR096bXNWbk1PYTQ/edit?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on June 05, 2014, 10:22:32 PM
Quote from: Kuky on June 05, 2014, 04:34:24 PM
Hi,

If you shoot crop mode (x5 zoom) with a 5D Mark III and use FPS override (for example 24 exact FPS) MlRawViewer will report 29,776 fps. Maybe it's a metadata mistake.

I verified shooting a timer watch in crop mode. It's actually using the override setting. Here is an actual file (2,2 Gb): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ncQl4hSqlnR096bXNWbk1PYTQ/edit?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3ncQl4hSqlnR096bXNWbk1PYTQ/edit?usp=sharing)

The MLV header data reports 29776/1000. mlv_dump also gives the FPS as 29.776000. The problem looks to be in the file.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kuky on June 05, 2014, 11:56:42 PM
Yeah, I wasn't sure, that's why I shot a timer  :)
But counting the frames it appears to respect FPS override
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mrsirio on June 08, 2014, 12:46:24 PM
Hey Baldand,

It's all working well for me, except that I miss a way to choose the dimensions (and with that the exact aspect ratio) of the exported movie. Any chance to see this implemented?

thanks for writing the best software one can dream of!

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: a13x on June 08, 2014, 05:42:24 PM
Hi everybody.
Maybe someone tell me how disable log file create? :-[
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ariaelf on June 09, 2014, 01:13:11 AM
This converter is working great for me as far as exporting to DNGs, but I'm wondering is there a way to do batch conversions with it or something else? I was using M L RAW Video Converter 1.9.1 previously, but now it's spitting out errors and not working now...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Frank7D on June 09, 2014, 01:40:13 AM
Quote from: ariaelf on June 09, 2014, 01:13:11 AM
This converter is working great for me as far as exporting to DNGs, but I'm wondering is there a way to do batch conversions with it or something else? I was using M L RAW Video Converter 1.9.1 previously, but now it's spitting out errors and not working now...

If you just need DNGs, there's MLV Mystic...
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10466.0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ariaelf on June 09, 2014, 01:43:10 AM
Quote from: Frank7D on June 09, 2014, 01:40:13 AM
If you just need DNGs, there's MLV Mystic...
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10466.0

Thanks for the heads up Frank! I will definitely give Mystic a try right now. Fingers crossed!

*UPDATE* Mystic worked great! YAAAY! Thanks again Frank - you saved my workflow bacon! ;D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ugo247548 on June 09, 2014, 04:02:23 AM
Hello,
I'm having problems with Mac version 1.1.6.

Here's an example - shot to *.MLV (/w sound) using 4Jun2014 Nightly for 5DMK3
48fps Override, 1920x503

Some ugly gradients in the grass, overexposed leaves on the right and on the top of the shot (yes, I know not to expose that way - it was a test).
And also, there are some pink dots on the overblown hair.

MlRawViewer exports to ProRes4444 that way.

http://postimg.org/image/ejcr5eoq5/

The CDNGs themselves are okay - ACR in PSCS6 opens them properly.

http://postimg.org/image/g3e9zzvg7/

Any advice on how to deal with this artefacts?
I can upload the original MLV if needed.

[EDIT] Here's what Son of Batch MLV (Beta) exports:
http://postimg.org/image/esjudkpl1/

Pity it's ProRes (HQ) Rec.709 with no control over Tint/Expo (and no sound).
What I like about MlRawViewer is that it exports ProRes4444 with LOG flat setting and decent WB/Tint/Expo Control prior the conversion (and with sound). Hope there will be a fix for the artefacts soon.

[EDIT2] Uploaded the MLV (420MB) http://yadi.sk/d/a3C99GZ7Sk3oA and a single .dng (2MB) http://yadi.sk/d/PphwlzA_Sk4Bf

Hope it helps and, baldand, thanks for already wonderful software which I hope is on it's way to become the best and only software anyone will ever need to work with ML RAW.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on June 11, 2014, 06:53:00 AM
Quote from: ugo247548 on June 09, 2014, 04:02:23 AM
Hello,
I'm having problems with Mac version 1.1.6.
...
Some ugly gradients in the grass, overexposed leaves on the right and on the top of the shot (yes, I know not to expose that way - it was a test).
And also, there are some pink dots on the overblown hair.

Things always get tricky when you are trying to recover detail (by reducing the exposure level) from overexposed areas which have a clear colour that is different from that of the main lightsource (or sky).

Green objects are the worst because the green channel is the one the is clipped first, so the actual hue information has gone.

The current MlRawViewer highlight recovery tries to keep some hue by guessing the green level from the other channels, taking into account the current white balance. That works well for avoiding pink skies. But this is one of those overexposure cases where that approach can never work.

(The alternative would to throw away colour entirely as the luminance approaches the overexposed region, and just try to recover luminance detail, which is what ACR seems to do).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Samario on June 11, 2014, 11:12:49 AM
Hi All

Firstly, MLRAWVIEWER is pretty amazing (so thanks to the dev team!), because I can take my MLV files with sound, quickly balance/correct the exposure/temperature and then exported out to a very easily editable ProRes 444.  The conversion for me is very fast.

Quick question though.  I have noticed that you allow export of adobeRGB, Log, and Rec709.  What standards/libraries are you using to define your "Log", "Rec709", etc.  I need to know because after I edit these files in Premiere and I'm ready to colour grade (I use FilmConvert and Osiris), it's very important that I identify the source material correctly, for the LUTs to work properly.  I am using a 5dmark3.

Is your Log output exactly the same as the Canon C-Log? or equivalent to some other log like VisionLog. 
Is your Rec709 the same as any other Rec709?
Is the adobeRGB the same as the ML RAW Standard input for FilmConvert (i.e. untouched colours)

Your insight would be helpful as then I know the correct input starting point when I begin my colour grade process.
Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on June 11, 2014, 05:14:23 PM
Quote from: Samario on June 11, 2014, 11:12:49 AM
Quick question though.  I have noticed that you allow export of adobeRGB, Log, and Rec709.  What standards/libraries are you using to define your "Log", "Rec709", etc.  I need to know because after I edit these files in Premiere and I'm ready to colour grade (I use FilmConvert and Osiris), it's very important that I identify the source material correctly, for the LUTs to work properly.  I am using a 5dmark3.

Is your Log output exactly the same as the Canon C-Log? or equivalent to some other log like VisionLog. 
Is your Rec709 the same as any other Rec709?
Is the adobeRGB the same as the ML RAW Standard input for FilmConvert (i.e. untouched colours)

Your insight would be helpful as then I know the correct input starting point when I begin my colour grade process.

MlRawViewer is open source so it's easy to see (and change or extend) what it does and can do.
The code for all the relevant conversions is almost fully self contained in this (OpenGL shader) source file:

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/src/b9ea6b768d663e431df7378f1a3b5bd241f89d02/ShaderDemosaicCPU.py?at=master

In addition, the colour matrix calculations are here:

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/src/b9ea6b768d663e431df7378f1a3b5bd241f89d02/mlrawviewer.py?at=master#cl-1722
(these were based on the ones done by dcraw).

The initial colour balance multiplier comes from you either directly or by clicking on a reference grey.
The colour matrix to convert to XYZ colour space comes from Magic Lantern in the MLV file, and that is multiplied with a matrix to convert from XYZ to sRGB linear values. That combined matrix is used to convert the raw colour into linear sRGB (note, NOT AdobeRGB) colour.
The log function simply maps & cĺips the colour into the range 1-1024, and takes log2. That results in a value in the range 0.0-10.0, so it divides by 10.0 to make that 0.0-1.0 (shader colour output should always be in that range)
The sRGB and Rec709 functions apply the standard linear+power gamma functions for those two specifications.

I hope that helps you out a bit.
Title: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rrrmusic on June 16, 2014, 12:22:46 AM
Anyone experience that.
http://tinypic.com/r/xbcked/8

Workflow
MLV - 5Dmk3 april 20 nightly
mlrawviewer 1.1.6 to mov log curve
premiere cc Windows
m31 lut LOG
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Rewind on June 16, 2014, 05:58:16 AM
Quote from: rrrmusic on June 16, 2014, 12:22:46 AM
Anyone experience that.
http://tinypic.com/r/xbcked/8

Strange. Banding artifacts are too harsh even for 8 bit workflow. Can you share this MLV file for testing or one of dng's made with mlv2dng?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rrrmusic on June 16, 2014, 06:40:31 AM
I think the problem is the mov convertion of mlrawviewer. Recently used raw2cdng and process in after effects. exported to mov prores and the problem is not present.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yrdap681f7smiap/M02-1703_000001_DNG.rar
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on June 16, 2014, 07:19:38 AM
Quote from: rrrmusic on June 16, 2014, 12:22:46 AM
Anyone experience that.
http://tinypic.com/r/xbcked/8

Workflow
MLV - 5Dmk3 april 20 nightly
mlrawviewer 1.1.6 to mov log curve
premiere cc Windows
m31 lut LOG

What PC & GPU do you have?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on June 16, 2014, 12:09:04 PM
Hi @baldand et al

I'm a regular user of the Cineform codec. Would it be a massive complication to add this to the export options some time?

Many thanks for your continued great work.


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rrrmusic on June 16, 2014, 03:37:25 PM
Windows 8.1 PC HP EliteBook 8760w GPU Nvidia Quadro 3000M
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rrrmusic on June 16, 2014, 03:39:33 PM
Windows 8.1 PC HP EliteBook 8760w GPU Nvidia Quadro 3000M
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on June 17, 2014, 10:36:21 PM
Hi baldand,

first of all, thank you for this great tool!

I have a few questions regarding the default exposure of the log curve.
I'm usually very careful about my exposures and just checked, with RawDigger, where 18 % grey falls in the linear space. It seems Canon places it in the area around 1024, which is at -4 stops.

The sRGB curve that you use for example, seems to use 2048 for it's grey value.

I've checked the code as you suggested, fired up good old Derive and plotted a chart, normalized to 10 bit output (0-1023).
This is what I got:
(http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/Log2%20Curve.png)

According to this, the 18 % grey, exposed with a light meter, should fall at 60 % or 614.
I tried checking the code for any default exposure correction value, but could not find it so far.

Could you maybe explain why the log curve is a bit darker?
Or did I overlook something?
Arri is putting grey at 40 % IRE for example, Sony with S-Log around 38 %:
http://blog.abelcine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/SRW_ITG_S-Log_001_IO_EN.pdf

My goal is to expose correctly, set WB, switch to the log curve and batch convert to ProRes.
In my NLE I would then apply a log2r709 curve, with an S to avoid clipping.

Just my thoughts/2c,
BR,
Michael
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: myneo on June 22, 2014, 02:48:11 AM
Hi,
I am a beginner for using Magic Lantern. When I convert mlv file into mov. using MIRawViewer Im getting red spots in the dark areas of the footage.

Secondly, for making a music video the external sound got in sync with the mov. footage I got from  MIRawViewer. But the colour grading is not as good as the one done by after effects.

If, I convert the Mlv file to dng through MLVMysticand take it to AE the colour grading becomes best but the external sound doesn't sync with it in the Final Cut Pro X.

Please guide me wht to do. Im a  magic Lantern lover andI dont wanna quit using it because of lack of proper information.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on June 22, 2014, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: myneo on June 22, 2014, 02:48:11 AM
Hi,
I am a beginner for using Magic Lantern. When I convert mlv file into mov. using MIRawViewer Im getting red spots in the dark areas of the footage.

Secondly, for making a music video the external sound got in sync with the mov. footage I got from  MIRawViewer. But the colour grading is not as good as the one done by after effects.

If, I convert the Mlv file to dng through MLVMysticand take it to AE the colour grading becomes best but the external sound doesn't sync with it in the Final Cut Pro X.

Please guide me wht to do. Im a  magic Lantern lover andI dont wanna quit using it because of lack of proper information.

The red (coloured) spots in dark areas is a known bug (seen mainly on Windows with Nvidia GPUs) which I have a fix for already. That will be included in the next release. (Link: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/72/coloured-spots-in-mov-exports-with-114-115)

I would be interested to hear which kind of colour controls or features would make MlRawViewer good enough for you to use instead of a more heavyweight tool. You can suggest ideas or vote for existing ones on the issues list: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on June 22, 2014, 10:07:06 AM
Quote from: timbytheriver on June 16, 2014, 12:09:04 PM
Hi @baldand et al

I'm a regular user of the Cineform codec. Would it be a massive complication to add this to the export options some time?

Many thanks for your continued great work.

I had a quick look at this and I'm not sure it would make sense. Easiest approach would be call the existing "raw2gpcf" convertor elsewhere on the forums, but, that would require first converting the file entirely into a .RAW file on disk. Since, for MLVs, that can be done now using mlv_dump, I'm not really sure what value MlRawViewer would be bringing other than a little bit of convenience.

It would be a different story if Cineform would be an (open, documented) "standard" codec, supported already by ffmpeg.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on June 22, 2014, 11:15:54 AM
Quote from: ToS_Maverick on June 17, 2014, 10:36:21 PM
I have a few questions regarding the default exposure of the log curve.

...(lots of good analysis here)...


Hi Michael,

My goal with the log curve was simply to have a reversible mapping function which prevents some of the detail in the darker areas being lost during the reduction from 14bits to 10bits that happens when encoding to ProRes. In theory, the data could be linearised afterwards with a matching inverse function. However, I haven't made such an inverse function (e.g. in a LUT file) to do this, so it's still just a theory.

It would be possible to change the existing log implementation, or add new ones, or add LUT support so that this could be made part of a tested workflow. But I would probably need some help with in terms of requirements, code contribution and testing.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on June 22, 2014, 11:42:14 AM
Quote from: rrrmusic on June 16, 2014, 06:40:31 AM
I think the problem is the mov convertion of mlrawviewer. Recently used raw2cdng and process in after effects. exported to mov prores and the problem is not present.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yrdap681f7smiap/M02-1703_000001_DNG.rar

I had a look at your data. I don't think there is anything functionally wrong here. It's all working as expected.

You are applying the log curve, which compresses the data in all regions of the brightness curve. The sky gradient is already very shallow, and then you convert from the original 14bit source, to 10bit ProRes. That combination of shallow gradient + log curve + 14->10 bit is where the banding is introduced.
Finally you apply a strong post processing curve which expands the colour range in the sky area you just compressed, so the banding becomes visible.

The solution here, for now, is to do the colour grading with the full 14bit range, e.g. with a tool that works with the DNGs.

(In the future, if MlRawViewer would gain LUT support, you might be able to apply your LUT to the original data with no quantising).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on June 22, 2014, 01:20:44 PM
I think the most important feature is gpu support, vertical stripes correction, in out points and cdng or dng export, perhaps 16 bit conversion like rawmagic provides and toolbox description of the different symbols. Great program. Thank you
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on June 22, 2014, 02:25:33 PM
Baland, i really like the idea to drag and drop multiple files to the batch process (rawmagic). Is this also working within mlrawviewer?  Cause for my understanding, you put all the files to the batch process one by one..
What i mean is:
Drag and drop to a queue, then all files are in a list where i can select e.g. Video1, set my in and out points, then video2,... Then select output format globally and the directory. Then convert button and voila.. That would be a great addition.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on June 22, 2014, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: swinxx on June 22, 2014, 02:25:33 PM
Baland, i really like the idea to drag and drop multiple files to the batch process (rawmagic). Is this also working within mlrawviewer?  Cause for my understanding, you put all the files to the batch process one by one..
What i mean is:
Drag and drop to a queue, then all files are in a list where i can select e.g. Video1, set my in and out points, then video2,... Then select output format globally and the directory. Then convert button and voila.. That would be a great addition.

@swinxx have you tried the "magic export" key "C"?

That adds all files in the same directory as the currently-viewed file to the export queue using the current settings.

So, to get almost the same results as you want, you would just drag one of the files to the viewer, choose the white balance, then press C.

(The current limitation is that you can't edit the in/out points of entries already in the export queue).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on June 22, 2014, 03:00:46 PM
Magic C!! Great. So do you think it would be possible to implement in out points to that queue?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MA Visuals on June 23, 2014, 03:58:55 AM
@baldand I have been revisting importing the cDNG files that MlRawViewer creates using the new version of Premiere CC 2014.  Since the last time I tried this, the experience seems much better than before.  There still remains some magenta highlight issues but there is a workaround for this (using the Video Limiter effect).   Also, it seems that finally, Adobe has acknowledged the pink highlights issue and are actively working a on a fix... see the Adobe forum thread here... https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1500841 (https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1500841).

In the new Premiere, the new source settings window does give as least some level of control for exposure, while balance, tint.  It's really great that the white balance set in MLRawViewer carries over pretty accurately in the cDNG files imported into Premiere.  I have read in a few places that Premiere appears to by applying rec.709 upon import of the cDNG files (shame that is doesn't allow selection of a LOG space upon import). 

I'm now trying to figure out the best way to retain the full 14-bit information in Premiere so I ran a few tests.   I purposely significantly overexposed a clip via the new source settings window in Premiere.  I then proceeded to try to bring back the highlight info as much as possible using Colorista II repeated this test using the new Speedgrade CC 2014.  Colorista could not retrieve much of the overexposed information but Speedgrade was able to recover dramatically much more of the highlight info.   I am guessing that Speedgrade is accessing the full 14 bits while Colorista may be limited by a the rec.709 imposed by Premiere upon import.  Here's a video test someone recently performed on Speedgrade which claims that Speedgrade is able to access the full 14 bits of information.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LFwNs6BDNg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LFwNs6BDNg).  Since Premiere now has the Lumetri LUT effect which utilizes the Speedgrade engine, it seems like the best option for maximizing the full 14bit of information would be to first apply a LOG-like LUT using Lumetri effect on all cDNG clips imported into Premiere. Then I would use Colorista for the rest of my grading.  I think what we need now is a good LUT for convert ML Raw to LOG.

I was just curious to know your thoughts about all this with regards to using a cDNG workflow.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hdclip on June 23, 2014, 11:31:38 AM
Hi Baldand!!!!maybe a Histogram or something like that to view the real exposure????
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Gerrit on June 23, 2014, 01:32:48 PM
Thank you Baldand. The Viewer is a very, very good tool.

Like my predecessor, I think a histogram and the whitebalance displayed in Kelvin would be a very good next step.
Without the color and exposure is always a little sloppy and sometimes off.
With exact control over these parameters a conversion to DNG would be obsolete in most productions
and you could go straight to editing with the log-gamma-applied-10 bit-almost-linear .movs.

That would be so great :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: aace on June 23, 2014, 02:37:04 PM
Quote from: Gerrit on June 23, 2014, 01:32:48 PM
Thank you Baldand. The Viewer is a very, very good tool.

Like my predecessor, I think a histogram and the whitebalance displayed in Kelvin would be a very good next step.
Without the color and exposure is always a little sloppy and sometimes off.
With exact control over these parameters a conversion to DNG would be obsolete in most productions
and you could go straight to editing with the log-gamma-applied-10 bit-almost-linear .movs.

That would be so great :)

If you want to have a feature added submit the request here: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jbowdach on June 26, 2014, 08:17:24 PM
Has anyone tested how the log converted prores files react when converted to VISIONLOG\ Cinelog? Im curious if we are still able to use that workflow for grading if we convert toREC709 or LOG Prores in the viewer (as that would save LOTs of space), then convert to standardize VISIONlog, and hand grade or add OSIRIS\Impulz LUTs as desired?

Anyone had success with that?

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on June 26, 2014, 09:59:37 PM
Quote from: baldand on June 22, 2014, 11:15:54 AM
Hi Michael,

My goal with the log curve was simply to have a reversible mapping function which prevents some of the detail in the darker areas being lost during the reduction from 14bits to 10bits that happens when encoding to ProRes. In theory, the data could be linearised afterwards with a matching inverse function. However, I haven't made such an inverse function (e.g. in a LUT file) to do this, so it's still just a theory.

It would be possible to change the existing log implementation, or add new ones, or add LUT support so that this could be made part of a tested workflow. But I would probably need some help with in terms of requirements, code contribution and testing.

Hi Andrew,

thank you for your kind reply!

Could you get back to me regarding the default exposure compensation in log mode?
It would be really helpful to have it preset so that 18 % grey is at 40 IRE without adjusting 8)

At the moment I have to press 13 times the UP key, which should be a factor of 3,45 if my math is correct (1 press = 1.1 times increase, right?).

The appropriate curve would look like that:
(http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/log2r709.png)

Quote from: Jbowdach on June 26, 2014, 08:17:24 PM
Has anyone tested how the log converted prores files react when converted to VISIONLOG\ Cinelog? Im curious if we are still able to use that workflow for grading if we convert toREC709 or LOG Prores in the viewer (as that would save LOTs of space), then convert to standardize VISIONlog, and hand grade or add OSIRIS\Impulz LUTs as desired?

Anyone had success with that?

We will be shooting a short movie where we will be going RAW => ProRes w/log curve => Edit => Color grade.
I'd like to keep things simple and still retain most of the quality. So far this workflow super easy once you are in ProRes and the quality due to the log space is amazing.
Also the color matrix seems to be really good! A liberation compared to the builtin H264 video ;)

Why would you go from Andrew's log implementation to Cinelog? Is it really that different?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on June 27, 2014, 03:49:47 PM

I think already some one talk about this but im having pink dot's in the highlight, probably in the overexpose areas. Even if i press 0 (zero) don't solve the problem. Recording directly to the sun it gives me a circle, if i down the brightness in MlRamViewer 1.1.6. If i upper the brightness this pink stuff disappear.

It's not also good to have something saying in the screen of the app the state (on or off) wend you press 0 (zero)? 

Sorry if im saying some dumb stuff here or if this already have been discuss but any help would be cool =)

Canon 7D

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rungunshoot on June 29, 2014, 06:32:44 PM
Hi, my ProRes conversion is very slow.  Probably 3-4 fps.  Is that normal, or is there something I'm not doing here?  I'm running v1.16 and converting 5dmkIII 1920x818 24fps footage on a Macbook Pro Retina with 16GB Ram.  Recording to internal SSD, so there shouldn't be a bus or read/write speed issue.

I get realtime transcoding from DNG with Resolve, so the issue must be the program.

Should I be expecting faster transcoding, or is this as good as it gets?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on June 30, 2014, 11:28:52 AM
Quote from: rungunshoot on June 29, 2014, 06:32:44 PM
Hi, my ProRes conversion is very slow.  Probably 3-4 fps.  Is that normal, or is there something I'm not doing here?  I'm running v1.16 and converting 5dmkIII 1920x818 24fps footage on a Macbook Pro Retina with 16GB Ram.  Recording to internal SSD, so there shouldn't be a bus or read/write speed issue.

I get realtime transcoding from DNG with Resolve, so the issue must be the program.

Should I be expecting faster transcoding, or is this as good as it gets?

ProRes conversion using the high quality AMaZE demosaicer which is CPU instead of GPU based. It does a very good job at recovering detail and reducing aliasing on shots with no aliasing filter (e.g. anything other than 3x crop or 5d3). But that's as fast as it goes I'm afraid.

Unfortunately I don't have a high quality GPU-based demosaicer yet.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: FBongcam on July 02, 2014, 03:04:31 AM
Hi,

First of all, great application and a great concept!

Sorry if this has been mentioned or asked before but does MlRawViewer correct the vertical stripes? I couldn't find any info about in the feature list.

Thanks,
Filip



Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on July 02, 2014, 04:42:36 PM
It can, if you press 0 (zero)  but this method it's only with an algorithm that baldand made ( i think). For better removing the vertical strips you need to upload a dark clip... hope baldand integrate this option in the app =)

Read the manual of the app.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 02, 2014, 07:32:52 PM
Quote from: FBongcam on July 02, 2014, 03:04:31 AM
Sorry if this has been mentioned or asked before but does MlRawViewer correct the vertical stripes?...

Some more notes on the stripe removal:

- Press zero key to turn the correction on or off. There will be an icon for this in later versions.
- When enabled, it will be applied for playback, DNG and MOV exporting.
- It's mostly tested & optimised for 7D low ISO stripes. It might be less effective for other models such as 5d3.

@arrinkiiii I think dark frames cannot help 7D vertical stripes because the pattern changes during a few frames. The current algorithm re-measures the stripe pattern for *every* frame, so it can correct for this change.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on July 03, 2014, 02:20:04 AM
Quote from: baldand on July 02, 2014, 07:32:52 PM
There will be an icon for this in later versions.
That will be nice =)


Quote from: baldand on July 02, 2014, 07:32:52 PM
@arrinkiiii I think dark frames cannot help 7D vertical stripes because the pattern changes during a few frames. The current algorithm re-measures the stripe pattern for *every* frame, so it can correct for this change.

That is good, that the algorithm re-measures the stripe pattern in each frame =)  I think each camera got there noise stripes, wend i say for upload a dark frame is like 5 or 10 seconds of video, the patern change but maybe after 5 or 10 seconds is the same. Wth this we can change the ISO and shutter speed and have a more correct subtract noise stripes maybe is not enough, maybe what im saying don't make sense but would like to try =) 

Anyway's, thanks for this tool, amazing!!! Good quality and easy to work... next update will be even better =D Hope be soon =))

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on July 08, 2014, 05:00:23 PM
Hi @Baldand

I'm suddenly experiencing a bug where thin magenta vertical lines appear on the viewer (see pic below) whenever I click on a GUI icon, which then subsequently appear on the render. Have tried both 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 and they are both doing it. Is this a known bug to yourself or anyone else? :o

Thanks again.

Tim

Mac OSX 10.7.5
5D MK2(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21590714/grab.jpg)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on July 08, 2014, 07:48:38 PM
Quote from: timbytheriver on July 08, 2014, 05:00:23 PM
I'm suddenly experiencing a bug where thin magenta vertical lines appear on the viewer (see pic below) whenever I click on a GUI icon, which then subsequently appear on the render.

Did MLRawViewer always do this or was it working just fine a few days ago? I have to wonder if it has anything to do with the OS you're using, but obviously not if it was working just fine a few days ago.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on July 08, 2014, 07:53:56 PM
Hi @Midphase

Fair call, but it's been working fine up 'til about a week ago!  :o



Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 08, 2014, 09:02:40 PM
Quote from: timbytheriver on July 08, 2014, 05:00:23 PM
I'm suddenly experiencing a bug where thin magenta vertical lines appear on the viewer (see pic below) whenever I click on a GUI icon, which then subsequently appear on the render. Have tried both 1.1.5 and 1.1.6 and they are both doing it. Is this a known bug to yourself or anyone else? :o

I haven't see anything quite like that before.

If you resize the window do you still see the lines?
Did you change any camera recording settings recently, for instance the frame size?
Do all files - old ones that have worked ok earlier - and new ones have the same problem?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nick.p on July 08, 2014, 11:43:33 PM

Quote from: timbytheriver on July 08, 2014, 07:53:56 PM
Hi @Midphase

Fair call, but it's been working fine up 'til about a week ago!  :o

If I had to have a wild guess, I'd say your gpu is on the way out :(
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on July 09, 2014, 10:19:45 AM
Thanks to all for your advice.

Further testing suggests the fault appears only on .RAW files of a certain res (1880 x 1058) and is fine on all .MLV files. The project I was working on was exclusively .RAW (from an early ML build ) which is why it was persisting.

Why though – I have no idea!

Thanks again for this great tool @Baldand

Tim



Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on July 09, 2014, 10:54:52 AM
@Badland Just a postscript on a possible bug...

I have an app called 'Memory Clean' which gives me stats on RAM usage and frees up unused RAM when needed. I've noticed that when I finish a session using ML Raw viewer and quit the app, the RAM gets 'stuck' as though the app is still running. If I then run the 'Memory Clean' app, the RAM returns to full.

I've checked Activity Monitor to see what process might be causing this but I can't see any direct reference to ML Raw viewer. Odd... but I though it might be useful to know.

Tim

Mac OSX 10.7.5
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rking on July 11, 2014, 06:59:54 AM
Ive read a lot of the thread.  Are the adjustments that you can make within the program not applied to the .mov export?  I am not seeing adjustments show up there.

Also Im seeing a lot of hot red pixels in the exported mov, but not the preview.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on July 11, 2014, 08:07:34 AM
Hey baldand,

Tried to contact you on IRC, but time-zones and all, I guess it's easier to answer here, then other people can know the response also, if they don't already.

I believe mlrawviewer can handle DNGs, is this correct?
In addition, should it be able to handle DNG raw video from a blackmagic camera? (Turns out there's no a lot out there to view blackmagic raw files on earlier versions of mac (or probably on linux) (I'm on ubuntu, a friend is on mac)).
If mlrawviewer doesn't support it, and there's the possibility that it could, I'm trying to get my hands on a blackmagic file (from my friend), and I'll try to code something to handle it to push to the main repo.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 11, 2014, 11:11:19 AM
Quote from: rking on July 11, 2014, 06:59:54 AM
Ive read a lot of the thread.  Are the adjustments that you can make within the program not applied to the .mov export?  I am not seeing adjustments show up there.

Also Im seeing a lot of hot red pixels in the exported mov, but not the preview.

What OS, GPU & version of the program are you using?

Everything in the MOV file files should look exactly as it does on screen when you turn on the high quality demosaicing (Q key or quality icon). All white balance, curve and brightness settings should be used.

The export uses the high quality demosaicing which shows much more detail than the preview. It's hard to say without seeing the material, but it's possible this is just making hot pixels more visible than the fast preview.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 11, 2014, 11:28:50 AM
Quote from: ItsMeLenny on July 11, 2014, 08:07:34 AM
I believe mlrawviewer can handle DNGs, is this correct?
In addition, should it be able to handle DNG raw video from a blackmagic camera? (Turns out there's no a lot out there to view blackmagic raw files on earlier versions of mac (or probably on linux) (I'm on ubuntu, a friend is on mac)).
If mlrawviewer doesn't support it, and there's the possibility that it could, I'm trying to get my hands on a blackmagic file (from my friend), and I'll try to code something to handle it to push to the main repo.

Yes, some (C)DNG sequences can be played back the same as MLV or RAW files.

The current restrictions are:
- Must be uncompressed
- Must be 14bit or 16bit
- Probably others I don't know about.

The reality is it has only been tested with it's own files and some from programs such as RAWMagic or raw2cdng.

12 bit support should be added in future now that some people are using that as their intermediate format. That will be easy to do.

Compressed DNG reading (and writing!) would be a great feature to add also in future, but it will be more work. dcraw.c is probably a good starting point for the decompression code. 

I suspect Blackmagic support will need either one or both of 12bit and compressed support, and maybe some other small changes to handle, for example, linearisation.

I would be really happy to see Blackmagic files supported with contributions, or indeed any other sources of raw bayer video files such as Odyssey7 captures from C500 or FS700.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 11, 2014, 11:40:18 AM
1.1.7 build needs testing

It would be great if a few people could try out 1.1.7 before I push it out more widely.

Mac: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_7_mac.dmg (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_7_mac.dmg)
Windows: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_7_win32.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_1_7_win32.zip)

1.1.7 is mainly a bug fix release. Main changes:

- Fix for coloured spots in dark areas of MOVs on Window+Nvidia
- Fix for magenta stripes in some sizes of frames
- Fix for white balance selection when stripe preprocessing in use
- Fix for infinite dialog loop when not providing an export folder
- Fix for default brightness of log output (it was 16 times too dark)
- Fix for misreading of CDNG frame rate
- Fix for framebuffer format (black screens) on Intel GPUs+Linux.
- Fix for crash when demosaicing some raw file
- Added icon for stripe reduction, and made stripe processing state persist

I've also changed my build environments for both Windows and Mac. It's possible this will cause some problems for some people, but I hope it won't.

Please let me know here if you have tried this version out, and if it worked ok, or if you saw some problems.

Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on July 11, 2014, 11:44:44 AM
Quote from: baldand on July 11, 2014, 11:28:50 AM
I would be really happy to see Blackmagic files supported with contributions, or indeed any other sources of raw bayer video files such as Odyssey7 captures from C500 or FS700.

I've asked my friend to send me a short (as short as possible, one second or the like) capture on his blackmagic pocket, when he gets around to it, although if the file size is still big I might just wait and get it directly from him on a flash drive (Australian internet is terrible), but once I do have that, if it's small enough to send I'll upload it somewhere.

The blackmagic site under tech specs for the pocket says "Lossless CinemaDNG RAW", so not incredibly helpful.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on July 11, 2014, 02:33:32 PM
hello baland.

i am on mac 10.9

here is my feedback:

- new icon is cool,
- when i open the prog, i can not see all icons, i have to resize it!
- then mouse pointer disappears when window size is changed.
- would it be possible to add tooltip mousover?
- when pressing w, the window where i can select the dir for export is behind the video window. perhaps you can make the window pop up in front of that window?
- is there a possibility to delete all jobs out of the mlrawviewer..?


all in all it looks really promising.

so when stripes correction is on, gpu processing is also on? right?
is it on when the icon is "stripes and cross"?
cause i exported 2 files and i think i can see stripes when the icon is stripes only and can not see them when the cross is seen too? is that right?


thank you so much for your effort. you are the best!!!

sw.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 11, 2014, 07:41:05 PM
Quote from: swinxx on July 11, 2014, 02:33:32 PM
- new icon is cool,
- when i open the prog, i can not see all icons, i have to resize it!
- then mouse pointer disappears when window size is changed.
- would it be possible to add tooltip mousover?
- when pressing w, the window where i can select the dir for export is behind the video window. perhaps you can make the window pop up in front of that window?
- is there a possibility to delete all jobs out of the mlrawviewer..?
...
so when stripes correction is on, gpu processing is also on? right?
is it on when the icon is "stripes and cross"?
cause i exported 2 files and i think i can see stripes when the icon is stripes only and can not see them when the cross is seen too? is that right?

Thanks for the feedback.
Vote for tooltips here: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/47/tool-tips (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/47/tool-tips)
You can cancel the current export job with X and all queued jobs with Z.
You got the stripes icon correct - the cross through the middle is supposed to mean that stripes are being removed.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on July 11, 2014, 08:28:19 PM
Nice work! Too bad I,m sitting on my crappy intel hd 3000 card all july. Will test thoroughly When I get home in august. Best viewer is now even better
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on July 11, 2014, 11:34:05 PM
hi baland!
ok, i voted for tooltips and hope that they will come in a further update.
everything else looks great. will test it the next days..

when using gpu processing is it also working with intel iris gpu? or is it turned off internally when the gpu is not supported?
thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on July 12, 2014, 12:39:06 AM
I noticed intel hd 4000 works fine but hd 3000 does not.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: SoulChildPaul on July 13, 2014, 10:37:22 AM
Testing 1.1.7 on new Mac pro base model and I am getting constant crashes when trying to export dngs. Same files exported fine on 1.1.6.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 13, 2014, 09:45:22 PM
Quote from: SoulChildPaul on July 13, 2014, 10:37:22 AM
Testing 1.1.7 on new Mac pro base model and I am getting constant crashes when trying to export dngs. Same files exported fine on 1.1.6.

Oh dear. Could you maybe collect a few more details:

Maybe you can get a log file of the crash.
Open a terminal and run the program from the command line with this command:
/Applications/MlRawViewer.app/Contents/MacOS/mlrawviewer/
Make it crash, then it should leave behind a file "mlrawviewer.log". Please share that.
Alternatively, if OS X says anything about debug information when it crashes, please try to get a copy of that to share.

Finally, anyone else seeing similar problems when DNG exporting with the Mac build of 1.1.7?

Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: SoulChildPaul on July 14, 2014, 10:42:06 AM
All seems to be working perfectly now after a restart, I am unable to get it to crash again. Great job! This is my go to app.

Am also able to run multiple instances.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 5DanielMIII on July 14, 2014, 10:46:16 AM
Hi,

Thanks for a great app!

I have been converting something like a 100 MLV`s over the past 2 days and not one single crash.
Worked perfectly for me.

I am on a MacbookBook Pro Retina Late 2013, OSX 10.9.4
5D Mark III
I tried several builds from June, all OK.
1920x1080 OK
25fps OK
Sound enabled OK
Stripe OK
Playback OK, it was a little buggy once playing back from the memory card.
I restarted the program and closed all my 100 other programs in the background and transferred the files to my SSD and playback was smooth again.

That was just once, I can normally playback the mlv`s from my Lexar 64gb 160mb/s card and my Lexar USB 3 reader without problems.

Regards,
Daniel
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 14, 2014, 11:02:49 AM
@SoulChildPaul, @5DanielMIII thanks for all the info. Sounds like the Mac version is working quite ok after all - good to know.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: morsafr on July 14, 2014, 12:12:27 PM
New Mac Pro here, no crash so far when converting to DNG with 1.1.7 version.

Thanks again for the great app!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on July 14, 2014, 12:17:57 PM
hello baland,

sorry but i have to inform you that my mlv (latest 4 july build / 5d mk3 / 23,976fps) files cause your program to crash.

tried to convert the files (the file structure is deep).
nearly every single conversion caused crashes.

my system is 10.9.3, mbp 13" retina late 2014

dont know why, sometimes it works, but most times not.
the 2nd problem is when a directory has a äöü inside, it does not open the file.

thx. re

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 14, 2014, 12:27:28 PM
Quote from: swinxx on July 14, 2014, 12:17:57 PM
hello baland,

sorry but i have to inform you that my mlv (latest 4 july build / 5d mk3 / 23,976fps) files cause your program to crash.

tried to convert the files (the file structure is deep).
nearly every single conversion caused crashes.

my system is 10.9.3, mbp 13" retina late 2014

dont know why, sometimes it works, but most times not.
the 2nd problem is when a directory has a äöü inside, it does not open the file.

thx. re

Is this DNG or MOV exporting?
What happens when it crashes - window just goes away?
Can you try to get an mlrawviewer.log file the same way I described for @SoulChildPaul yesterday?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on July 14, 2014, 01:49:07 PM
@baland:

i tried to export to dngs, and a window pops up when it crashes (see log file)

here are the log files: (mlrawviewer log file and crash report from mac)

http://we.tl/LRwEKu6GXD

greets. sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 14, 2014, 02:51:12 PM
Quote from: swinxx on July 14, 2014, 01:49:07 PM
@baland:

i tried to export to dngs, and a window pops up when it crashes (see log file)

here are the log files: (mlrawviewer log file and crash report from mac)

http://we.tl/LRwEKu6GXD

greets. sw

I got the crash rtf but the mlrawviewer.log file was empty. Was that what you see also?

If you run the program and just press W to bring up the export dir dialog, does it crash also then (not doing an export)?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on July 14, 2014, 03:39:02 PM
this was the exact log file.. sorry.
however, it crashes during the export of the dng files.

greets. sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 14, 2014, 07:23:48 PM
Quote from: swinxx on July 14, 2014, 03:39:02 PM
this was the exact log file.. sorry.
however, it crashes during the export of the dng files.

greets. sw

Hmm, from the Apple log, the crash seems to happen inside Apple's Intel HD5000 (Iris?) GPU driver. Maybe other people with Intel-GPU Macs & 10.9 are seeing similar problems?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Rewind on July 14, 2014, 08:03:04 PM
Any way to disable logging?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on July 14, 2014, 08:11:33 PM
hello,

@baland:

i have a iris gpu, yes.
my osx is 10.9.3, so its the latest stuff. i have another mac with a nvidia 680 gpu with 4gb ram but i can not test your app til end of july cause i am on holiday now :)

greets and thank you for you effort.
sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on July 16, 2014, 09:03:28 AM
Quote from: baldand on July 11, 2014, 11:40:18 AM
- Fix for default brightness of log output (it was 16 times too dark)

I've also changed my build environments for both Windows and Mac. It's possible this will cause some problems for some people, but I hope it won't.

Please let me know here if you have tried this version out, and if it worked ok, or if you saw some problems.

Thanks!

Hi baldand,
thank you for the fixes!

The brightness of the log output is correct now indeed! I'm mainly using OSX but was trying MlRawViewer on Linux as well and noticed the brightness difference in 1.1.6. Seems it was working correctly in Linux!
Does that only apply for the Win/Mac build?

Didn't test much else but it felt quite solid!
Was the WB/Exposure saving feature (G and H keys) persistent between sessions in the last build as well? Just noticed yesterday while playing around ;)

BR
Michael
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.6 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 16, 2014, 12:20:08 PM
Quote from: ToS_Maverick on July 16, 2014, 09:03:28 AM
The brightness of the log output is correct now indeed! I'm mainly using OSX but was trying MlRawViewer on Linux as well and noticed the brightness difference in 1.1.6. Seems it was working correctly in Linux!
Does that only apply for the Win/Mac build?

Didn't test much else but it felt quite solid!
Was the WB/Exposure saving feature (G and H keys) persistent between sessions in the last build as well? Just noticed yesterday while playing around ;)
Michael

If you pulled from git during the last couple of weeks, you probably had the brightness fix even the version number was 1.1.6. I only bump the version number when making Win/Mac binary releases.

WB/Exposure saving was also in 1.1.6 (binary releases).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mario1000 on July 17, 2014, 08:33:20 PM
Hi Baldand,

thanks for the update, everthing concerning the conversion of the MLV-Files works fine. But I would like to ask you whether it is possible to implement the following feature:
Every time I work with MLV and DROPPED FRAMES ALLOWED I get a black frame for this dropped frame. I think it would be very useful to replace this black frame with this picture:

http://www.uploadimages4free.com/browse_images/smpte_color_bars_ntsc_recreated_with_fml_test_card_maker-15600.html (http://www.uploadimages4free.com/browse_images/smpte_color_bars_ntsc_recreated_with_fml_test_card_maker-15600.html)

I found a script for After Effects which makes use of this picture to find and replace missing frames in After Effects (Framerestorer: http://aescripts.com/pt_framerestorer/).

Best regards
Mario
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 18, 2014, 09:44:39 AM
Quote from: mario1000 on July 17, 2014, 08:33:20 PM
...
Every time I work with MLV and DROPPED FRAMES ALLOWED I get a black frame for this dropped frame. I think it would be very useful to replace this black frame with this picture:
...

That's an interesting idea. Perhaps you could add it as an enhancement for people to vote on in the issues list: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues)

What does the replacing script use to replace missing frames? Does it just copy the previous frame?
Perhaps that would be a more useful option to add, e.g. to replace missing frames with the last good frame while exporting?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on July 18, 2014, 10:14:59 AM
It seems it uses the time warp effect which could use different methods.
http://helpx.adobe.com/after-effects/using/time-effects.html#timewarp_effect

Whole Frames, duplicates the last frame
Frame Mix, creates a new frame by blending existing frames.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on July 22, 2014, 10:35:29 AM
Hi Baldand. Quick question. I,ve been working with dual iso movie files and converting them with mlvmystic. Since they are developed I,d like to be able to export the dng,s once more to mov files with mlrawviewer going from mlvmystic DNG:s. However, mlvmystic dng:s seems to miss exif data and the mlvrawviewer defaults to exporting 25fps. My files has to be 24fps. Is there any way to set the fps manually?
Thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 22, 2014, 12:53:50 PM
Quote from: Danne on July 22, 2014, 10:35:29 AM
...Is there any way to set the fps manually?

Not at the moment. It hasn't been needed so far since most played files have a frame rate embedded.
Please add this is an enhancement request to bitbucket.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on July 22, 2014, 02:34:30 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Sidneywish on July 22, 2014, 06:02:35 PM
Sorry if this been answered before... any way to export to mov without the overexposed signs (colors) embedded in the video?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 22, 2014, 11:08:32 PM
Quote from: Sidneywish on July 22, 2014, 06:02:35 PM
Sorry if this been answered before... any way to export to mov without the overexposed signs (colors) embedded in the video?

Do you mean you want an option to disable the highlight reconstruction, or something else? Can you give some example?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: sgofferj on July 23, 2014, 03:18:13 AM
Can't export on kubuntu 14.04:

MOV export to /video/test/M23-0349_000001.MOV started
Opening MLV file /video/test/M23-0349.MLV
Black level: 2044 White level: 13000
FPS: 23.97 (23970/1000)
Audio frame count 0
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/sgofferj/mlrawviewer/ExportQueue.py", line 423, in doExportMov
    self.processExportMov(jobindex,filename,movfile,wavfile,startFrame,endFrame,audioOffset,rgbl,tm,matrix,preprocess)
  File "/home/sgofferj/mlrawviewer/ExportQueue.py", line 482, in processExportMov
    self.encoderProcess = subprocess.Popen(args,**kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 710, in __init__
    errread, errwrite)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/subprocess.py", line 1327, in _execute_child
    raise child_exception
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
Export job failed:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/sgofferj/mlrawviewer/ExportQueue.py", line 182, in run
    self.nextJob(self.jobs[self.currentjob])
  File "/home/sgofferj/mlrawviewer/ExportQueue.py", line 205, in nextJob
    self.doExportMov(job[0],jobArgs)
  File "/home/sgofferj/mlrawviewer/ExportQueue.py", line 430, in doExportMov
    if self.encoderProcess:
AttributeError: 'ExportQueue' object has no attribute 'encoderProcess'


Edit:
Can't export to MOV. Export to DNG works...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 23, 2014, 04:16:36 PM
Quote from: sgofferj on July 23, 2014, 03:18:13 AM
...Can't export to MOV. Export to DNG works...

You need a static binary build of ffmpeg in the same directory as the source. Get it from here: http://johnvansickle.com/ffmpeg/ (http://johnvansickle.com/ffmpeg/)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on July 23, 2014, 10:25:42 PM
@baldand:

I've been working on saving silent-pics and full resolution silent pics in MLV containers. The data from the full resolution silent pics has OB areas included. When using MLRawViewer to open these MLVs, it doesn't seem to be respecting the 'active_area' fields of struct raw_info (in the RAWI chunk) and outputs DNGs with the OB black bars in them. mlv_dump processes these correctly. For more information and some sample files see: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12733.0

here's an example of what I'm talking about:
File Header (MLVI)
    Size        : 0x00000034
    Ver         : v2.0
    GUID        : 5214970244131067897
    FPS         : 0.066667
    File        : 0 / 0
    Frames Video: 6
    Frames Audio: 0
Block: RAWI
  Offset: 0x00000034
    Size: 180
    Time: 23.117000 ms
    Res:  4832x3201
    raw_info:
      api_version      0x00000001
      height           3201
      width            4832
      pitch            8456
      frame_size       0x019D0508
      bits_per_pixel   14
      black_level      1023
      white_level      12932
      active_area.y1   24
      active_area.x1   62
      active_area.y2   3201
      active_area.x2   4832

      exposure_bias    0, 0
      cfa_pattern      0x02010100
      calibration_ill  1
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 23, 2014, 11:43:48 PM
Quote from: dmilligan on July 23, 2014, 10:25:42 PM
I've been working on saving silent-pics and full resolution silent pics in MLV containers. The data from the full resolution silent pics has OB areas included. When using MLRawViewer to open these MLVs, it doesn't seem to be respecting the 'active_area' fields of struct raw_info...

@dmilligan thanks for the heads-up. I have been following the thread and already got one sample file earlier from @barepixels. I already guessed the active_area would become a problem. I've added this as an enhancement request for a future release: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/83/should-support-active_area-params-of-mlv (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/83/should-support-active_area-params-of-mlv)

One other issue I noted is the frame rate. If the capture frame rate is stored in the file, then it is played back at the speed it was captured, e.g. 0.1 FPS is 1 frame every 10 seconds. I don't think this is useful since normally you would want to watch the video at a normal framerate, not the capture rate. Perhaps the MLV should have a normal playback rate instead?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on July 24, 2014, 12:02:45 AM
Quote from: baldand on July 23, 2014, 11:43:48 PM
One other issue I noted is the frame rate.
Yeah I was thinking about that. It's kind of a sticky situation. I figured it was more important to capture the information about what the real frame rate was, since you know it as the intervalometer is running, in case you ever needed it or wanted to know later. If you just put 24fps there or whatever, this information is lost (well, not totally lost, you could figure it out from the timestamps).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MA Visuals on July 24, 2014, 02:11:59 AM
My feeling is that the final embedded framerate in the DNGs should be a standard framerate since that would let the DNGs work well in Resolve and NLEs etc.  For example, when I extracting the silent pics using mlv2dng, it automatically embedded 23.976 as the frame rate which allowed me to bring the sequence right into resolve into my 23.976 timeline and I was able to play back the timelapse immediately without issues...super easy.

@baldand, A suggestion would be that any changes made to support silent pics should coincide with manual framerate support.  That way people would be able to choose between leaving the actual capture framerate in place as well accomodate those needing 23.976, 24, 29.970, 30 depending on what's needed for their project.

In case you need another test mlv containing just 5 full-res silent pictures....  https://copy.com/7pc7Tla4SAqx (let me know if you would like me to a upload larger mlv file I have containing 110 frames or so).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 24, 2014, 09:22:37 AM
Quote from: MA Visuals on July 24, 2014, 02:11:59 AM
@baldand, A suggestion would be that any changes made to support silent pics should coincide with manual framerate support.  That way people would be able to choose between leaving the actual capture framerate in place as well accomodate those needing 23.976, 24, 29.970, 30 depending on what's needed for their project.

Yes, I think you are right. Frame rate override would probably be the way to go here after all. There is already enhancement request for that. https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/82/manual-framerate-support (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/82/manual-framerate-support)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Petter Sand on July 26, 2014, 11:35:23 PM
Hi! I use A 5d mark III with ML for 1.1.3 firmware and a build from the 20th of may.
I recently switched to MlRawviewer 1.1.7 and exported som MLV files. When I exported I noticed these red artifacts in the yellow parts of the workers clothes.
Does anyone have clue why? Could it be a wrong setting? The red artifacts are not there if I look at DNG´s.

See frame here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4htmy976ni4c8j2/redareasx.jpg

Best Regards
Pettermannen
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: aace on July 27, 2014, 03:43:06 AM
Quote from: Petter Sand on July 26, 2014, 11:35:23 PM
Hi! I use A 5d mark III with ML for 1.1.3 firmware and a build from the 20th of may.
I recently switched to MlRawviewer 1.1.7 and exported som MLV files. When I exported I noticed these red artifacts in the yellow parts of the workers clothes.
Does anyone have clue why? Could it be a wrong setting? The red artifacts are not there if I look at DNG´s.

See frame here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4htmy976ni4c8j2/redareasx.jpg

Best Regards
Pettermannen

This is similar to an issue I had. You can check out how I got around it here: https://vimeo.com/94709318 The trouble ticket is here: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/66/overexposed-highlights-issue
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: sgofferj on July 27, 2014, 07:23:06 PM
Quote from: baldand on July 23, 2014, 04:16:36 PM
You need a static binary build of ffmpeg in the same directory as the source. Get it from here: http://johnvansickle.com/ffmpeg/ (http://johnvansickle.com/ffmpeg/)
Still doesn't work :(. Now it writes a 185bytes big MOV file and then idles.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 27, 2014, 08:40:47 PM
Quote from: sgofferj on July 27, 2014, 07:23:06 PM
Still doesn't work :(. Now it writes a 185bytes big MOV file and then idles.

My guess is that you are using GLUT rather than GLFW as the graphics toolkit. Unfortunately a few things don't work with GLUT - I think the MOV export is one of them.

Doubly unfortunately, MlRawViewer is using the latest version of glfw3 - 3.1 - which you will need to build for yourself from source from the git tree here: https://github.com/glfw/glfw.git

You will need cmake to build it. Make a "build" directory under the source tree, go in there and do "cmake ..". Then edit the generated CMakeCache.txt and change the line "BUILD_SHARED_LIBS:BOOL=ON" from OFF to ON.
Then build with "make", and copy the file "libglfw.so.3.1" into the mlrawviewer source directory with the name "libglfw.so.3"

After that your mov export should work.

Sorry for all the trouble. Hopefully in future, when GLFW3.1 is released and packaged by distros, this step will become as easy as "sudo apt-get install libglfw3".
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 27, 2014, 08:51:09 PM
Quote from: Petter Sand on July 26, 2014, 11:35:23 PM
...I recently switched to MlRawviewer 1.1.7 and exported som MLV files. When I exported I noticed these red artifacts in the yellow parts of the workers clothes.
Does anyone have clue why? Could it be a wrong setting? The red artifacts are not there if I look at DNG´s.

There is one thing to try, but I doubt it will help much. Turn on the stripe reduction (clip the icon with stripes) as this actually uses a slightly different highlight reconstruction algorithm.

However, the basic problem is that you have a green object with an overexposed (clipped) green channel, and the overall scene white balance is unrelated to that colour. It's not possible (AFAIK) to recover the colour correctly in that kind of case with any simple highlight reconstruction algorithm.

I suggest avoiding overexposing green objects (especially leaves in sunlight!) in future.

(I always keep an eye on the Raw histogram while recording and step up my ND filter to make sure none of those bright objects that are not in the sky are overexposed.)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: sgofferj on July 27, 2014, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: baldand on July 27, 2014, 08:40:47 PM
My guess is that you are using GLUT rather than GLFW as the graphics toolkit. Unfortunately a few things don't work with GLUT - I think the MOV export is one of them.

Doubly unfortunately, MlRawViewer is using the latest version of glfw3 - 3.1 - which you will need to build for yourself from source from the git tree here: https://github.com/glfw/glfw.git

You will need cmake to build it. Make a "build" directory under the source tree, go in there and do "cmake ..". Then edit the generated CMakeCache.txt and change the line "BUILD_SHARED_LIBS:BOOL=ON" from OFF to ON.
Then build with "make", and copy the file "libglfw.so.3.1" into the mlrawviewer source directory with the name "libglfw.so.3"

After that your mov export should work.

Sorry for all the trouble. Hopefully in future, when GLFW3.1 is released and packaged by distros, this step will become as easy as "sudo apt-get install libglfw3".

Ok, I'll test but I have to check first if that messes up my system. A number of things are running on openGL. No worries about the "trouble" - it's none. I like to test stuff and with the price going half this summer, I'll likely get myself a BMPCC for that $500... So my 6D would be for photos only then :).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 28, 2014, 06:40:32 AM
Quote from: sgofferj on July 27, 2014, 09:56:28 PM
Ok, I'll test but I have to check first if that messes up my system. A number of things are running on openGL. No worries about the "trouble" - it's none. I like to test stuff and with the price going half this summer, I'll likely get myself a BMPCC for that $500... So my 6D would be for photos only then :).

As long as you just copy the lib from the build directory to the mlrawviewer source directory, and do not do "make install", there should be no impact on anything else.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: N/A on July 29, 2014, 02:48:28 AM
MlRawViewer crashes whenever I try to export 7D .MLV or .RAW with stripe removal activated. Version 1.1.7, OSX 10.9.4, AMD Radeon HD 6770M. Crashes whether the MLV has sound or not, and resolution makes no difference. Funny thing is, rendering to .mov works just fine. Playback works just fine, and rendering without stripe removal activated works fine. I'll pm you the crash log.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 30, 2014, 06:12:35 PM
Quote from: N/A on July 29, 2014, 02:48:28 AM
MlRawViewer crashes whenever I try to export 7D .MLV or .RAW with stripe removal activated. Version 1.1.7, OSX 10.9.4, AMD Radeon HD 6770M. Crashes whether the MLV has sound or not, and resolution makes no difference. Funny thing is, rendering to .mov works just fine. Playback works just fine, and rendering without stripe removal activated works fine. I'll pm you the crash log.

Thanks N/A. I managed to reproduce this now. I think it's similar to the problem swinxx had - program crashes inside an OpenGL call in Apple's OpengGL library. I'll see if I can find some workaround for it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: N/A on July 30, 2014, 07:43:14 PM
Any way to replace or update the OpenGL library? I know OSX includes OpenGL but I'm sorta lost on the library part.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on July 30, 2014, 07:56:04 PM
Quote from: N/A on July 30, 2014, 07:43:14 PM
Any way to replace or update the OpenGL library? I know OSX includes OpenGL but I'm sorta lost on the library part.

No. But I found a workaround that seems to stop it crashing, and pushed that to git already. It will be fixed in the next release.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: N/A on July 30, 2014, 07:57:52 PM
Ok, I'll test it out as soon as its compiled.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: zacshome on August 05, 2014, 11:01:25 PM
Hey dude, anyway to turn the mov conversion into small proxie files? 444 is all well and good but i want cdng for resolve then small .mov files to edit in premiere with so i can just xml back to resolve and grade. so small .mov option would be amazing...unless i misses something...i read since page 11 :)

Also, when grading in resolve with BMD color spacing etc.. is it best to use log space? i am used to using raw2cdng.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 06, 2014, 07:35:28 AM
Quote from: zacshome on August 05, 2014, 11:01:25 PM
Hey dude, anyway to turn the mov conversion into small proxie files? 444 is all well and good but i want cdng for resolve then small .mov files to edit in premiere with so i can just xml back to resolve and grade. so small .mov option would be amazing...unless i misses something...i read since page 11 :)

Also, when grading in resolve with BMD color spacing etc.. is it best to use log space? i am used to using raw2cdng.

Hi. There is no option for low res proxies at the moment.

The colour mapping options options like Rec.709 and LOG only affect the MOV output, not DNG (which is what you should use to export to Resolve).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: zacshome on August 06, 2014, 07:59:00 AM
Totally cool, my only issue now is getting the .mov files to link to my DNG files back in resolve. xml and edl are being a real pain. Any ideas?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: oc_masta on August 07, 2014, 11:44:04 AM
When clicking around on the frame, why does it change the colour/tint of the video?
Should I be setting the grey point for WB when clicking at a point on the frame? If so, thats amazing but not sure yet?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on August 07, 2014, 02:12:25 PM
Quote from: baldand on August 06, 2014, 07:35:28 AM
Hi. There is no option for low res proxies at the moment.

I saw in the code that FFMPEG is executed with "-profile:4". No need for another symbol in the UI, but it would be really cool to switch between profiles or even the constant quantizer mode (maybe a config file?). I think ProRes 422 would sufficient for most cases...
http://transcoding.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/prores-ffmpeg/
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 07, 2014, 02:32:27 PM
Quote from: oc_masta on August 07, 2014, 11:44:04 AM
When clicking around on the frame, why does it change the colour/tint of the video?
Should I be setting the grey point for WB when clicking at a point on the frame? If so, thats amazing but not sure yet?

Read the whole thread. This app deserves it as a lot of many other contributions on this forum.
And yes. Whitebalance is only a click away. Amazing.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: khayyamkhan on August 07, 2014, 05:14:30 PM
I love what the HDR option does to my footage. What is it actually doing to the footage?  I would like to recreate this effect in Resolve.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: flostro on August 07, 2014, 05:34:47 PM
Quote from: ToS_Maverick on August 07, 2014, 02:12:25 PM
I saw in the code that FFMPEG is executed with "-profile:4". No need for another symbol in the UI, but it would be really cool to switch between profiles or even the constant quantizer mode (maybe a config file?). I think ProRes 422 would sufficient for most cases...
http://transcoding.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/prores-ffmpeg/

That would be great! Rawanizer had the option to write the ffmpeg code in a textbox or use presets, but config file would be good for mlraviewer.

I tried to modify the prores profile in the python source, but i don't know anything about compiling it to an executeble.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 07, 2014, 06:36:10 PM
Quote from: khayyamkhan on August 07, 2014, 05:14:30 PM
I love what the HDR option does to my footage. What is it actually doing to the footage?  I would like to recreate this effect in Resolve.

It applies the simple "Reinhard" global tone map function x -> x / (1+x) which maps input from the range 0-inf to the range 0-1, i.e. it never clips. The brightness (exposure) multiplier can then be applied as much as you like to bring out the darker areas, and compress the brighter areas.

(Sorry, I've no idea how to achieve the same result in Resolve).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 07, 2014, 08:58:49 PM
Quote from: flostro on August 07, 2014, 05:34:47 PM
That would be great! Rawanizer had the option to write the ffmpeg code in a textbox or use presets, but config file would be good for mlraviewer.

I tried to modify the prores profile in the python source, but i don't know anything about compiling it to an executeble.

Done: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/commits/845b561366761c351aadad057f99efd669179f74 (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/commits/845b561366761c351aadad057f99efd669179f74)

Will be in the next release. This should allow you try to try different ProRes variants and bitrates (e.g. for proxies), as well as any other container or codec like H.264, or even JPG/PNG/TIFF output. Some examples are in the commit message.

In a later version I may take some of the best examples people make and offer them as standard options in the UI.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 07, 2014, 10:07:26 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jbowdach on August 08, 2014, 02:00:38 AM
Quote from: baldand on August 07, 2014, 08:58:49 PM
Done: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/commits/845b561366761c351aadad057f99efd669179f74 (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/commits/845b561366761c351aadad057f99efd669179f74)

Will be in the next release. This should allow you try to try different ProRes variants and bitrates (e.g. for proxies), as well as any other container or codec like H.264, or even JPG/PNG/TIFF output. Some examples are in the commit message.

In a later version I may take some of the best examples people make and offer them as standard options in the UI.

Ridiculously awesome. Many thanks!!

Quick question: When you decode to DNG, are you using any type of standard decoding method? Im trying to compare it to raw2cdng decoding quality and see which is better and I was curious if you decoded to DNG ? Long story short, should I execpect any quality difference when decoding using methods?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jbowdach on August 08, 2014, 02:02:17 AM
Quote from: zacshome on August 06, 2014, 07:59:00 AM
Totally cool, my only issue now is getting the .mov files to link to my DNG files back in resolve. xml and edl are being a real pain. Any ideas?

If the files are named the same as the DNG folders it should be quite easy to relink back in Resolve. Use an XML, not an edl as EDL only supports ONE track of video. The KEY is making sure the filenames are identical, ensuring a setting in resolve is set to assist using file\folder names, and ensure you uncheck import media, as you MUST have already imported your CDNG files before you import your XML. The below should assist

This should help: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11379.msg122149#msg122149 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11379.msg122149#msg122149)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 08, 2014, 06:48:12 AM
Quote from: Jbowdach on August 08, 2014, 02:00:38 AM
Quick question: When you decode to DNG, are you using any type of standard decoding method? Im trying to compare it to raw2cdng decoding quality and see which is better and I was curious if you decoded to DNG ? Long story short, should I execpect any quality difference when decoding using methods?

MlRawViewer has two different data paths for converting into DNG. In both cases a DNG container is created with tags extracted from the source file metadata.
1. When stripe reduction is NOT in use, the source raw data is copied and, if needed, padded to 16bit values with zero bits. In addition, (bad) pixels with zero value are hidden with surrounding data. This path should have very minimal impact on the data.
2. When stripe reduction IS in use, the data is loaded to the GPU and 3 shaders are run to estimate and correct any stripe patterns in the data due to different amplifier settings, as well as hot pixels. The result is written out as 16bit values. This path can touch all pixel values, but is intended not to cause an overall visible change in the image, other than reducing stripes and spots.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 08, 2014, 08:52:52 AM
Excelent Sofware for use in the set.
Congrats.

I cannot Export (C letter, doesn't happen).

I use with Mavericks 10.9.4. .MLV

Everything works like a charm except export.

Any Ideas?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 08, 2014, 11:07:54 AM
Quote from: budafilms on August 08, 2014, 08:52:52 AM
Excelent Sofware for use in the set.
Congrats.

I cannot Export (C letter, doesn't happen).

I use with Mavericks 10.9.4. .MLV

Everything works like a charm except export.

Any Ideas?

Press Y, or click the red circle to start processing the export queue.

In the next version this will happen by default.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jbowdach on August 08, 2014, 05:11:34 PM
Many thanks for the detailed explanation!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Markus on August 08, 2014, 06:33:48 PM
Quote from: khayyamkhan on August 07, 2014, 05:14:30 PM
I love what the HDR option does to my footage. What is it actually doing to the footage?  I would like to recreate this effect in Resolve.

Set clip settings to "bmd film" in resolve and work from there. Also be sure to check "highlight recovery" box. Manipulate raw input settings and I would recommend using an s-curve.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jbowdach on August 08, 2014, 11:12:39 PM
HDR is using an specific algorithm, it was discussed previously in this thread. Here is a quote opf wat its doing
Quote
It applies the simple "Reinhard" global tone map function x -> x / (1+x) which maps input from the range 0-inf to the range 0-1, i.e. it never clips. The brightness (exposure) multiplier can then be applied as much as you like to bring out the darker areas, and compress the brighter areas.

(Sorry, I've no idea how to achieve the same result in Resolve).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 09, 2014, 08:50:01 AM
Quote from: baldand on August 08, 2014, 11:07:54 AM
Press Y, or click the red circle to start processing the export queue.

In the next version this will happen by default.

This tool is absolutely amazing.
I work on sets and it's absolutely useful, I'm Really impressed in the same level as ML is.

A questions: the DNG created to work in Davinci or ACR, it's the same as for example, MLV Mystic or Magic Raw? Or I have to know something about quality?

Thanks and congrats!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 09, 2014, 04:35:02 PM
MlRawViewer 1.2.0 available for testing

1.2.0 did not produce ACR-compatible DNGs. Replaced by 1.2.1. See http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg125253#msg125253 (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg125253#msg125253)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: N/A on August 09, 2014, 05:32:22 PM
Ahhhhh, perfect timing. Danke!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 09, 2014, 10:12:50 PM
Thanks a lot Andrew. You are really good at this. This is one funky app. The manual fps toggling works fenomenal. Additional changes also makes the app even more professional now.
I created some fast Mlrawviewer exports to log setting in 2560x1090(2,5k) using the 24fps setting on mlvmystic converted dual iso dngs and the results are really awesome.
However, if proceeding with ideas on working and converting dual iso movie files I think something has to be done in high contrast situations(see last clip in the sky, highlights are blown out?). Also some sort of setting which would handle some of the purple and green fringing which can be handled something similar like in adobe camera raw. Of course, this is simply ideas and suggestions.
Thanks a lot.

Compression a bit high on youtube it seems.

UPDATE* Last clip in the movie got is a NON dual iso file. I got them mixed up. The highlights are NOT clipped as in the movie with dual iso files with the same motif. 


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 09, 2014, 11:29:43 PM
Quote from: baldand on August 09, 2014, 04:35:02 PM
MlRawViewer 1.2.0 available for testing

Windows: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_0_win32.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_0_win32.zip)
Mac: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_0_mac.dmg (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_0_mac.dmg)

New builds are available and would need some testing. These include a few changes since 1.1.7:

  • FPS override. Press Shift-F to cycle through some alternative frame rates (23.976,24,25,29.97,30,48,50,60) instead of the clip's native rate. The new rate is persisted and used for exporting DNGs and MOVs.
  • Better ActiveArea handling. This should prevent black borders being seen in full frame silent picture MLVs
  • Persistent per-clip settings. Brightness, balance, in/out marks, tone map, external audio file, audio file offset and frame index are written to a ".MRX" file companion for each clip file
  • FFMPEG export parameters read from text files (see earlier message for more details)
  • Export queue processing on by default. This means export will begin as soon as pressing E
  • Fix for OS X crash when exporting DNG with stripe correction
  • Fix for flickering when playing clip while exporting with stripe correction
  • Windows build changed not to use self contained exe to startup faster
Please report any problems you see.


ACR: Could not complete your request because Photoshop does not recognize this type of file.
Could not complete the command because the file appears to be from a camera model which is not supported by the installed version of Camera Raw.
Please visit the Camera Raw help documentation for additional information.


5D mark III
OSX Maverick 10.9.4
MLV 260 MB for testing.
ML build 08/08

I didn't test in DaVinci Resolve Yet, for me the most important.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 09, 2014, 11:50:43 PM
I have other question that I can find in any thread about sofwares to convert MLV or RAW to DNG.

All the DNGs are the same? I mean, 16 bits DNG form MLViewer is the same as 16 bits by MagicRaw or Mystic or Son of Batch?

I think this is a very important question to decide which is more convenient. There's a lot of software around - with advantages and disadvantages depending of the user - but the quality, exposure, - not only the bits - it's something that people like me cannot understand .

THanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 10, 2014, 10:15:42 AM
Quote from: budafilms on August 09, 2014, 11:29:43 PM

ACR: Could not complete your request because Photoshop does not recognize this type of file.
Could not complete the command because the file appears to be from a camera model which is not supported by the installed version of Camera Raw.
Please visit the Camera Raw help documentation for additional information.


5D mark III
OSX Maverick 10.9.4
MLV 260 MB for testing.
ML build 08/08

I didn't test in DaVinci Resolve Yet, for me the most important.

Thanks for that report. I have a fix already and will make a 1.2.1 build later today which includes it.
(Fix: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/commits/3d854b5a370e04de0ba0e645c80750c7f37b3b8a (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/commits/3d854b5a370e04de0ba0e645c80750c7f37b3b8a))

There is also a fix for the problem with directories including unicode characters, which was reported on IRC.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 10, 2014, 10:30:07 AM
Quote from: budafilms on August 09, 2014, 11:50:43 PM
I have other question that I can find in any thread about sofwares to convert MLV or RAW to DNG.

All the DNGs are the same? I mean, 16 bits DNG form MLViewer is the same as 16 bits by MagicRaw or Mystic or Son of Batch?

I think this is a very important question to decide which is more convenient. There's a lot of software around - with advantages and disadvantages depending of the user - but the quality, exposure, - not only the bits - it's something that people like me cannot understand .

THanks!

I can't comment specifically on the other software, but I gave a more detailed explanation of the DNG paths in MlRawViewer a few posts earlier: http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg124946#msg124946 (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg124946#msg124946)

Since most of the software you are talking about is freely available for testing, you could spend a bit of time testing them yourself to understand how they differ. Your test material should probably concentrate on more extreme cases, e.g. with clipped highlights in different lighting, and range of ISOs. Then convert to DNG with all different SW available to you using their different modes, and try to push the resulting files in your grading - looking for any early introduction of colour banding, stripes, colour casts, wrongly coloured highlights, etc. Then you could post your findings as a reference also for other people, and raise any problems you find with the SW developers.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 10, 2014, 11:11:07 AM
Quote from: baldand on August 10, 2014, 10:30:07 AM
I can't comment specifically on the other software, but I gave a more detailed explanation of the DNG paths in MlRawViewer a few posts earlier: http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg124946#msg124946 (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg124946#msg124946)

Since most of the software you are talking about is freely available for testing, you could spend a bit of time testing them yourself to understand how they differ. Your test material should probably concentrate on more extreme cases, e.g. with clipped highlights in different lighting, and range of ISOs. Then convert to DNG with all different SW available to you using their different modes, and try to push the resulting files in your grading - looking for any early introduction of colour banding, stripes, colour casts, wrongly coloured highlights, etc. Then you could post your findings as a reference also for other people, and raise any problems you find with the SW developers.

Thanks for the explanation. I'll do my best!

MLRaw have a " Reset" command to return to Original WB and exposure?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 10, 2014, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: budafilms on August 10, 2014, 11:11:07 AM
Thanks for the explanation. I'll do my best!

MLRaw have a " Reset" command to return to Original WB and exposure?

No. For exposure, this would be a useful addition.

For WB, there is currently no original WB used in RAW or MLV files - only in DNG files if they have the AsShotNeutral tag. Before the recent work of @chmee, there wasn't a good way to map from the WB info in MLV files to R/B multipliers, and I haven't yet taken his findings into use as an initial WB. Personally speaking, I anyway always try to just find a neutral colour in the clip and click that.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 10, 2014, 11:41:53 AM
Quote from: baldand on August 10, 2014, 11:26:58 AM
No. For exposure, this would be a useful addition.

For WB, there is currently no original WB used in RAW or MLV files - only in DNG files if they have the AsShotNeutral tag. Before the recent work of @chmee, there wasn't a good way to map from the WB info in MLV files to R/B multipliers, and I haven't yet taken his findings into use as an initial WB. Personally speaking, I anyway always try to just find a neutral colour in the clip and click that.

Thanks again!

And my last opinion it's about to add for export the last ProRes 4444XQ, that provide all the 16 bits potencial from DNG.

Thanks, I admire your work. I will start a new full length - I was the first using RAW - using your software!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Francis Frenkel on August 10, 2014, 11:51:25 AM
Is there a video / Tuto  showing all the fonctionnalities of your smart software ?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on August 10, 2014, 12:06:28 PM
DELETE
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 10, 2014, 12:22:25 PM
Updated my reply #728. Some confusion on my side regarding highlight clipping due to some mixup with dual iso files and non dual iso files. Highlight handling are OK.
Thanks
/D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 10, 2014, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: Francis Frenkel on August 10, 2014, 11:51:25 AM
Is there a video / Tuto  showing all the fonctionnalities of your smart software ?

Sorry no. The best guide so far is the first post of this thread, (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165 (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165)) at least that should tell you about all the features and the key commands.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 10, 2014, 01:28:47 PM
Quote from: budafilms on August 10, 2014, 11:41:53 AM
And my last opinion it's about to add for export the last ProRes 4444XQ, that provide all the 16 bits potencial from DNG.

That will not be possible before ffmpeg gets support for encoding the XQ profile. I have no idea when or if that will happen.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 10, 2014, 06:26:45 PM
MlRawViewer 1.2.1 available for testing

Replaced by build 1.2.2 -> http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg125528#msg125528 (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg125528#msg125528)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: barepixels on August 10, 2014, 07:07:59 PM
did not work for me.  I tried to open these Full Res Silent Pics MLV, which were able extracted fine with mlv_dump

(http://199.167.201.88/screencaptures/MxtB6.png)

1) right click wun as adminstrator
2) a window popup allowing me to choose 00000000.MLV
3) then MlRawViewer just silently disappear.  no sign of crash


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 10, 2014, 07:16:36 PM
Quote from: barepixels on August 10, 2014, 07:07:59 PM
did not work for me.  I tried to open these Full Res Silent Pics MLV, which were able extracted fine with mlv_dump

(http://199.167.201.88/screencaptures/MxtB6.png)

1) right click wun as adminstrator
2) a window popup allowing me to choose 00000000.MLV
3) then MlRawViewer just silently disappear.  no sign of crash

Please check the mlrawviewer.log file. It's now moved into the ".mlrawviewer" sub-directory in your user directory. That might give a clue about the problem.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 10, 2014, 08:10:39 PM
Dng:s open fine in acr converting raw to dng in version 1.2.1   :)
I have a problem creating a "new folder" when choosing location. Anybody else experiencing this? I,m on mac Os X mavericks 10.9.4
Good work!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 10, 2014, 09:19:03 PM
Quote from: Danne on August 10, 2014, 08:10:39 PM
Dng:s open fine in acr converting raw to dng in version 1.2.1   :)
I have a problem creating a "new folder" when choosing location. Anybody else experiencing this? I,m on mac Os X mavericks 10.9.4
Good work!

Exactly. The Menu for Create a Folder not work.

Other things:
- DAVINCI RESOLVE 11: When I open the DNG, unexpected Quit. I did the DNG from MLV Mystic, and no problem. I repeat the test with other MLV files from this software and quit. This is a big one. LOG FILE: https://www.dropbox.com/s/chfrvmdf5ucsap2/davinci_resolve.log

New Version.
- The menu (finder) sometimes dissapiring
- When you closed the software, appear "unexpectedly Quit" dialog "for send to apple".
- When you touch any part of the image (not only for change Exposure or RGB colours in the right) change all the image and I insist Have to stay a shortcut - or UNDO - to return to the initial opened file, with the origin COLOR-EXPOSURE. Because if you don't like the color or exposure that you are looking for, have to close the file and open again (?!).
- The color that you change, when you open again the file, maintain the last setting. This is too bad. No undo or reset button. Practically, you lost the file in the mistake you can do.
- Cosmetic: When you press W, the dialog it's just behind the software layout and you have to move all. Bring to front?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: barepixels on August 10, 2014, 10:49:21 PM
Quote from: baldand on August 10, 2014, 07:16:36 PM
Please check the mlrawviewer.log file. It's now moved into the ".mlrawviewer" sub-directory in your user directory. That might give a clue about the problem.

MlRawViewer v1.2.1
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013-2014
Using GLFW
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 1985, in main
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\MlRaw", line 1318, in loadRAWorMLV
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\MlRaw", line 611, in __init__
TypeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute '__getitem__'
Could not open file D:/2014-07-26-Sillence-Full-MLV-AETTR/00000000.MLV. Error:'NoneType' object has no attribute '__getitem__'
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on August 11, 2014, 06:43:38 AM
hi, i tried some mlv 5d mk3 conversion with the the latest version of mlrawviewer 1.2.1
works great here, but when i import the footage into davinci resolve, the program crashed while working with the material.
that is strange because it happens unintentionally. (not from the very beginning but suddenly within the working process. (when working with the material) the video preview window freezes and the program stops to work. but not from the very beginning. (after i don't know.. one minute? or so)
i don't know if it is a problem with the converted material, but it always freezes when the new material is previewed, and i did not have such a problem with other material (converted with 1.1.7)
my resolve version: 11
my mac osx: 10.9.4

greets. sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 11, 2014, 06:49:19 AM
Quote from: barepixels on August 10, 2014, 10:49:21 PM
MlRawViewer v1.2.1
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013-2014
Using GLFW
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 1985, in main
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\MlRaw", line 1318, in loadRAWorMLV
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\MlRaw", line 611, in __init__
TypeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute '__getitem__'
Could not open file D:/2014-07-26-Sillence-Full-MLV-AETTR/00000000.MLV. Error:'NoneType' object has no attribute '__getitem__'

Thanks. My guess here is that one or more of the later files in the sequence is missing the normal MLV header chunk, which is usually (I mean in all MLV files produced by mlv_rec) in all the files.

To test this theory, you could try this:

- Move or rename the .M02 file, then try to open the MLV file again
- IF that doesn't work, also move or rename the .M01 file, then try again
- Repeat step above with .M00 file.

If it only works with the MLV file, then I would say there is a bug in the full res silent pics code. It is not writing a file header section in subsequent files after the initial .MLV.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 11, 2014, 06:58:29 AM
Quote from: budafilms on August 10, 2014, 09:19:03 PM
Exactly. The Menu for Create a Folder not work.

Other things:
- DAVINCI RESOLVE 11: When I open the DNG, unexpected Quit. I did the DNG from MLV Mystic, and no problem. I repeat the test with other MLV files from this software and quit. This is a big one. LOG FILE: https://www.dropbox.com/s/chfrvmdf5ucsap2/davinci_resolve.log

New Version.
- The menu (finder) sometimes dissapiring
- When you closed the software, appear "unexpectedly Quit" dialog "for send to apple".
- When you touch any part of the image (not only for change Exposure or RGB colours in the right) change all the image and I insist Have to stay a shortcut - or UNDO - to return to the initial opened file, with the origin COLOR-EXPOSURE. Because if you don't like the color or exposure that you are looking for, have to close the file and open again (?!).
- The color that you change, when you open again the file, maintain the last setting. This is too bad. No undo or reset button. Practically, you lost the file in the mistake you can do.
- Cosmetic: When you press W, the dialog it's just behind the software layout and you have to move all. Bring to front?

Thanks for the feeedback.

I see problems reading the audio file in the Resolve log. Can you manually delete the WAV file from within the DNG export difrectory before opening it with Resolve, and see if that still crashes?

UNDO/REDO stack and reset option seem like good possible features for the next version now that there is clip setting persistance. I'll look into that.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 11, 2014, 07:00:11 AM
Quote from: swinxx on August 11, 2014, 06:43:38 AM
hi, i tried some mlv 5d mk3 conversion with the the latest version of mlrawviewer 1.2.1
works great here, but when i import the footage into davinci resolve, the program crashed while working with the material.
that is strange because it happens unintentionally. (not from the very beginning but suddenly within the working process. (when working with the material) the video preview window freezes and the program stops to work. but not from the very beginning. (after i don't know.. one minute? or so)
i don't know if it is a problem with the converted material, but it always freezes when the new material is previewed, and i did not have such a problem with other material (converted with 1.1.7)
my resolve version: 11
my mac osx: 10.9.4

greets. sw

Did the clip have audio? If so, can you remove the WAV file from the DNG directory and see if it still crashes without that?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 11, 2014, 07:47:56 AM
Quote from: baldand on August 11, 2014, 06:58:29 AM
Thanks for the feeedback.

I see problems reading the audio file in the Resolve log. Can you manually delete the WAV file from within the DNG export difrectory before opening it with Resolve, and see if that still crashes?

UNDO/REDO stack and reset option seem like good possible features for the next version now that there is clip setting persistance. I'll look into that.

Yes Sir, is the .WAV file!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 11, 2014, 09:02:04 AM
Quote from: budafilms on August 11, 2014, 07:47:56 AM
Yes Sir, is the .WAV file!

OK.

Do you see any obvious problems with the WAV file? is the file size less tham expected? Are you able to open and play it correctly in a program other than Resolve?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: flostro on August 11, 2014, 09:52:07 AM
Thank you Baldand for the latest release and all your work!

I also seem to have trouble with the sound in 1.2.0/1.2.1 when converting to ProRes.

.raw conversion works as expected as well as the new fps override.

When I try to convert a mlv with sound the files stays at 0% in export queue and then just finishes without a error message.
The log file said something about "stdoutWriter"
I looked at the wav file that is created in the source folder and it is fine when i just play the mlv, but after the failed conversion it overrides the wav and it becomes unplayable with a filesize of 1KB.

I used 5D III footage on Win7
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 11, 2014, 11:45:29 AM
Quote from: baldand on August 11, 2014, 09:02:04 AM
OK.

Do you see any obvious problems with the WAV file? is the file size less tham expected? Are you able to open and play it correctly in a program other than Resolve?

The wav it's not usefull. I can't open in any software under OSX. It's too small.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: barepixels on August 11, 2014, 01:19:55 PM
Quote from: baldand on August 11, 2014, 06:49:19 AM
Thanks. My guess here is that one or more of the later files in the sequence is missing the normal MLV header chunk, which is usually (I mean in all MLV files produced by mlv_rec) in all the files.

To test this theory, you could try this:

- Move or rename the .M02 file, then try to open the MLV file again
- IF that doesn't work, also move or rename the .M01 file, then try again
- Repeat step above with .M00 file.

If it only works with the MLV file, then I would say there is a bug in the full res silent pics code. It is not writing a file header section in subsequent files after the initial .MLV.

it only works with the MLV file after i rename .M02, .M01, .M00
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on August 11, 2014, 03:13:42 PM
Hi Andrew,

thank you for making the FFMPEG settings configurable!
I was playing around with it and it seems I've opened pandora's box.

I was curious if I could see a difference between ProRes4444 and plain old H264 in the form of X264 @ CRF 15, which should be transparent. I noticed no difference with the avg bitrate being around 25 mbit. Then I stumbled upon this thread:
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/291/1137

It seems that FFMPEG converts RGB48 to YUV in 8 bit, which would be really bad. I fired up Davinci Resolve and had a look for myself.

I exported a clip with MlRawViewer in Log and Resolve with the BMDFilm gamma curve and matched the gamma curve between the two. Then I crushed the blacks severely to see if banding occurs.

Here are the results:
(http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/Gadiation%20Test%20MLRV.png)
(http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/Gadiation%20Test%20DR422.png)
(http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/Gadiation%20Test%20DR444.png)

Conclusion:
FFMPEG seems to indeed process in 8 bit and ProRes4444 in Resolve is worth the extra bandwidth/bitrate.

I don't know if it's possible to feed FFMPEG directly with yuv444p12le to avoid the conversion but I think so. The conversion code for MlRawViewer has to be written though...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 11, 2014, 06:26:10 PM
Quote from: ToS_Maverick on August 11, 2014, 03:13:42 PM
...
Conclusion:
FFMPEG seems to indeed process in 8 bit and ProRes4444 in Resolve is worth the extra bandwidth/bitrate.

Hi! Thanks for studying this topic.

I made a quick test input file covering the full range of 10bit input values, and encoding that with ffmpeg, then decoding back to rgb48 didn't show any obvious 2 bit quantising (though values do get changed due to the reduced value space). So I don't think your conclusion about the 8 bit conversion is correct.

Here's something else to try. The current default encoding uses the "-q:v 4" param, which changes the encoder to fixed qscale mode. Remove that argument, and instead add "-bits_per_mb 8000". Have another go with your test file and let us know in case that looks any better than the default.

You can also try, e.g. "-q:v 2" or "-q:v 0". All those settings should affect the final bitrate (and hence quality)

(The main reason to use the fixed qscale is that it encodes much faster, but if it turns out to be causing poor quality that will have to change!)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 11, 2014, 06:35:29 PM
Quote from: barepixels on August 11, 2014, 01:19:55 PM
it only works with the MLV file after i rename .M02, .M01, .M00

It very much sounds - though I can't confirm for sure without the files in my hands - as though the silent picture MLV code is not writing the MLVI block at the start of the subsequent files (.M00, .M01, etc) in the series.

From the MLV format thread (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7122.0)):
"- MLVI block is the first block in every .mlv file"
and
"- using the GUID a tool can detect which partial or spanning files belong together, no matter how they are named"

While mlv_dump may be handling/decoding these file sets ok, MlRawViewer expects that block at the start of each file in the series. I think you should raise this as a possible bug against the Magic Lantern silent picture MLV code.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 11, 2014, 06:37:26 PM
Quote from: budafilms on August 11, 2014, 11:45:29 AM
The wav it's not usefull. I can't open in any software under OSX. It's too small.

Thanks for your help. That was the kind of information I need to diagnose the cause of the issue. I'm investigating it now...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on August 11, 2014, 07:44:17 PM
Baland - thank you for your great help, support and of cause for your program which is evolving into the best and most professional converter available. You are really outstanding!!
Keep on doing what you do, cause you do it great!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 11, 2014, 09:10:59 PM
Yeah, couldn,t agree more. Most grateful. This app rock!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on August 12, 2014, 12:57:41 AM
Quote from: baldand on August 11, 2014, 06:26:10 PM
You can also try, e.g. "-q:v 2" or "-q:v 0". All those settings should affect the final bitrate (and hence quality)

(The main reason to use the fixed qscale is that it encodes much faster, but if it turns out to be causing poor quality that will have to change!)

Thank you for the suggestions, that did work!

Q0 was clean, Q2 was bigger than Q0 and showed macro blocking. Q3 is the same size and shows blocking as well. Seems the bitrate distribution is different right?

(http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/Gadiation%20Test%20MLRV%20Q0.png)

I think we should be safe using this:
-f mov -vf vflip -vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 4 %s.MOV
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jbowdach on August 12, 2014, 01:47:59 AM
Would you be able to add the ability to apply a LUT file to the MLV files instead of using the built-in LOG, HDR, profiles? This would be enormously useful for conversion to VisionLOG, CineLOGDCP, etc in terms of applying specific log profiles or just using a general LUT overall?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 12, 2014, 06:59:07 AM
Quote from: Jbowdach on August 12, 2014, 01:47:59 AM
Would you be able to add the ability to apply a LUT file to the MLV files instead of using the built-in LOG, HDR, profiles? This would be enormously useful for conversion to VisionLOG, CineLOGDCP, etc in terms of applying specific log profiles or just using a general LUT overall?

LUTs would be possible - by which I mean LUTs loaded from simple/obvious file formats. LUT support is on the enhancement list (you can vote for it -> https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/18/log-output-and-3d-luts-should-be-supported (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/18/log-output-and-3d-luts-should-be-supported))

However, I don't know how to support DCP files, since those are a binary file format intended for Adobe products. So to use VisionLOG, or CineLOG, you would need to get "simple" LUT versions of those, or else help me find a spec for the DCP file format.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jbowdach on August 12, 2014, 07:19:21 AM
Quote from: baldand on August 12, 2014, 06:59:07 AM
LUTs would be possible - by which I mean LUTs loaded from simple/obvious file formats. LUT support is on the enhancement list (you can vote for it -> https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/18/log-output-and-3d-luts-should-be-supported (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/18/log-output-and-3d-luts-should-be-supported))

However, I don't know how to support DCP files, since those are a binary file format intended for Adobe products. So to use VisionLOG, or CineLOG, you would need to get "simple" LUT versions of those, or else help me find a spec for the DCP file format.
I'm referring specifically to 3d LUTs, not Adobe camera raw profiles. There are 3d LUT versions of visionlog that use .Cube based files for resolve
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on August 12, 2014, 11:54:08 AM
Finally I've tried DNxHD and was able to get "real" 8 bit data, since this is explicitly "supported" (ProRes defaults to 10 bit no matter what).

It looks like this:
(http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/Gadiation%20Test%20MLRV%20DNxHD%208b.png)
(http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/Gadiation%20Test%20MLRV%20DNxHD.png)

The 10 bit DNxHD is comparable to PR422 but at a higher file size.

If you want to try for yourself, here are the settings:
DNxHD
-f mov -vf vflip -vcodec dnxhd -b:v 185M -pix_fmt yuv422p10le %s.MOV

DNxHD 8 bit
-f mov -vf vflip -vcodec dnxhd -b:v 185M -pix_fmt yuv422p %s.MOV

ProRes 422
-f mov -vf vflip -vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 2 -pix_fmt yuv422p10le %s.MOV

ProRes 422 HQ
-f mov -vf vflip -vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 3 -pix_fmt yuv422p10le %s.MOV

ProRes 4444
-f mov -vf vflip -vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 4 %s.MOV
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on August 12, 2014, 12:33:07 PM
Hi @baldand

This just gets better and better – thank-you!

QuoteThis should allow you try to try different ProRes variants and bitrates (e.g. for proxies), as well as any other container or codec like H.264, or even JPG/PNG/TIFF output.

Does using this option now allow me to export to Cineform (as long as it is on my machine). Please, please tell me it does – and the code I'd need to achieve it! :D

tim
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 12, 2014, 01:01:08 PM
Quote from: timbytheriver on August 12, 2014, 12:33:07 PM
Hi @baldand

This just gets better and better – thank-you!

Does using this option now allow me to export to Cineform (as long as it is on my machine). Please, please tell me it does – and the code I'd need to achieve it! :D

tim

This lets you use any encoder supported by ffmpeg. But I don't believe cineform is one of those.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on August 12, 2014, 01:05:51 PM
How very frustrating. Politics I guess... :-[

Does this shed any light? https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/1087
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 12, 2014, 11:11:18 PM
MlRawViewer 1.2.2 available for testing

(This replaces build 1.2.1, which did not correctly extract audio from MLV files.)

Windows: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_2_win32.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_2_win32.zip)
Mac: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_2_mac.dmg (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_2_mac.dmg)

New builds are available and would need some testing. These include a few changes since 1.1.7:
Please report any problems you see.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jbowdach on August 13, 2014, 06:25:50 AM
I put together a quick article documenting my workflow using MLRawViewer.  Should help those just getting started and want a quick walkthrough. Hope it helps!

http://bit.ly/mlraw2pr (http://bit.ly/mlraw2pr)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Midphase on August 13, 2014, 07:50:59 AM
Thank you for continuing work on MLRawViewer and consistently pushing to add new features. Perhaps I'm alone in the following request, but if I'm not I hope others can chime in.

As MLRawViewer has continued to expand its functionality and options, IMHO it has also become somewhat challenging to use without referring to the text instructions for key shortcuts and the meaning of the various icons.

Is it perhaps time that MLRawViewer gain a proper GUI with an actual file browser, and easy to use checkboxes for the various options? I'm just raising the question because as much as I appreciate all of the work that has gone into it, I find myself still somewhat intimidated by its usage as anything other than an easy way to playback my footage.

I hope that you don't find this request insulting or improper, I really think MLRawViewer is a fantastic little app, but as much as I enjoy alternative UI's for some things (Red Giant products for example), I find myself wishing that MLRawViewer would move toward the type of GUI standards that ultimately just work.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 13, 2014, 09:26:39 AM
I test it under OSX 10.9.4 5D III
MLV 1920 x 1080 25 P ML Build 08-08
Komputerbay 1000x 64GB

FPS override. WORKS!
Export queue processing on by default. WORKS!
Fix for OS X crash when exporting DNG with stripe correction WORKS!
Brightness level shown as EV WORKS!
Reset button for brightness  YES, but the image return to be very DARKER. Cosmetic ISSUE?
White balance dropper. You need to click this first before clicking a neutral object. YES, a little slow in a MAC PRO 2014. You have to wait a couple of seconds.
Undo/Redo icons for brightness/balance changes. Works. It's slow too.
Store/restore icons for brightness/balance changes. Works, slow to. Like receive a lot of instructions.

I tried open the files in DaVinci Resolve and play like a charm!

COngratulations. Teel me if you need other test.

It's the most powerful and complete software for ML RAW and MLV. For Post and in the SET!


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on August 13, 2014, 10:25:06 AM
Hi

I'm getting some unexpected behaviour when using the eyedropper. Clicking on point after selecting the dropper produces crazy colours that introduce banding (obvious in blue sky) that seem to be reset only when altering the EV slider up and down. Could it be to do with the following?

QuoteYou will need to manually update your settings in the $USER\.mlrawviewer directory if you used an earlier version with different defaults

I can find the $USER\.mlrawviewer folder but don't know which parameters to edit inside it! Can someone help me update my settings please?

**EDIT**
I've now located these files inside this [hidden] mac folder. For anyone else reading, these are: 'ffmpegWithAudioConfig' and 'ffmpegNoAudioConfig' The code is at the top of each of these files. Correct default should now be:

-f mov -vf vflip -vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 4 -alpha_bits 0 -vendor ap4h -q:v 0 %s.MOV

@badland Pls correct me if this is incorrect!

**/EDIT**

Thanks!

OSX 10.7.5

tim
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on August 13, 2014, 10:58:20 AM
hello folks!

@midphase, @baland: havent tested the new version yet but a gui improvement would be fantastic. i could probably help with gui design if it is needed :)

greets. sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Francis Frenkel on August 13, 2014, 11:37:14 AM
Quote from: Jbowdach on August 13, 2014, 06:25:50 AM
I put together a quick article documenting my workflow using MLRawViewer.  Should help those just getting started and want a quick walkthrough. Hope it helps!

http://bit.ly/mlraw2pr (http://bit.ly/mlraw2pr)

great ! thanks a lot !

Francis
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 13, 2014, 03:31:20 PM
Quote from: Midphase on August 13, 2014, 07:50:59 AM
As MLRawViewer has continued to expand its functionality and options, IMHO it has also become somewhat challenging to use without referring to the text instructions for key shortcuts and the meaning of the various icons.

Is it perhaps time that MLRawViewer gain a proper GUI with an actual file browser, and easy to use checkboxes for the various options? I'm just raising the question because as much as I appreciate all of the work that has gone into it, I find myself still somewhat intimidated by its usage as anything other than an easy way to playback my footage.

I hope that you don't find this request insulting or improper, I really think MLRawViewer is a fantastic little app, but as much as I enjoy alternative UI's for some things (Red Giant products for example), I find myself wishing that MLRawViewer would move toward the type of GUI standards that ultimately just work.

Thanks for the constructive feedback.

The way to proceed here is for you or others to make as specific as possible proposals - and in the case of the UI please give examples or screenshots as well as descriptions - either to existing or new enhancement requests on the issue list.

Re the file browser, I would appreciate people writing comments to the existing enhancement request describing how they would like this to work - should it be another separate view in the app, or a pane, or an embedded overlay?

Checkboxes is a new one. Where should they be, and how should they look & behave - on a hidden window that appears when you hover somewhere, or when you click a button? Please make an enhancement request.

For the "intimidating" things, you can also post those as (usability) "issues", again, explaining the problem from your point of view - no need to describe a solution.

I cannot promise to implement anything in the enhancements list, but I do use it as a guide when deciding what, if anything, to work on next.

Issues list: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on August 13, 2014, 04:50:43 PM
@baland

would it be possible to make the mouse pointer (when moved to the app) always on top of mlrawviewer..
cause it disappears.
i´m working with mac osx 10.9

thx.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 13, 2014, 05:03:13 PM
Quote from: swinxx on August 13, 2014, 04:50:43 PM
@baland

would it be possible to make the mouse pointer (when moved to the app) always on top of mlrawviewer..
cause it disappears.
i´m working with mac osx 10.9

thx.

Could you post a bug (issue) report for that, thanks! https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: N/A on August 14, 2014, 04:48:41 AM
Quote from: swinxx on August 13, 2014, 04:50:43 PM
@baland

would it be possible to make the mouse pointer (when moved to the app) always on top of mlrawviewer..
cause it disappears.
i´m working with mac osx 10.9

thx.
Same thing here, have to toggle the full-screen option on and off to fix it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 14, 2014, 10:45:57 PM
Compared several dual iso movie clips converted to prores through adobe camera raw and after effects CS 6 and came to the conclusion that acr causes flicker without even touching the sliders. MLrawviewer exports the same sequences beautifully.
*Davinci resolve 10 lite also has the flicker so it seems it comes from the conversion to dng from dual iso dng:s. Somehow it works with Mlrawviewer??
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on August 15, 2014, 01:06:41 PM
Quote from: baldand on August 08, 2014, 06:48:12 AM
MlRawViewer has two different data paths for converting into DNG. In both cases a DNG container is created with tags extracted from the source file metadata.
1. When stripe reduction is NOT in use, the source raw data is copied and, if needed, padded to 16bit values with zero bits. In addition, (bad) pixels with zero value are hidden with surrounding data. This path should have very minimal impact on the data.
2. When stripe reduction IS in use, the data is loaded to the GPU and 3 shaders are run to estimate and correct any stripe patterns in the data due to different amplifier settings, as well as hot pixels. The result is written out as 16bit values. This path can touch all pixel values, but is intended not to cause an overall visible change in the image, other than reducing stripes and spots.

Thanks for the explenation. This feature can be a game changer, I will try to understand if the extra process time and the overall quality are accetable.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: oc_masta on August 16, 2014, 12:15:06 AM
I can't get v1.2.2 to output. I click on record and reaches less than 1% where it just stops and freezes up.
anyone else getting this?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 16, 2014, 06:40:28 AM
Quote from: oc_masta on August 16, 2014, 12:15:06 AM
I can't get v1.2.2 to output. I click on record and reaches less than 1% where it just stops and freezes up.
anyone else getting this?
In 1.2.2, the export queue processing is on by default.
That means you should only need to click the plus button to add something to the queue.
If you click the record icon, it will go pause the processing - clicking again will continue.

The use case here is that if you want to export one thing, just click plus and wait.

But if you want to queue many things without the ui slowing down, you can pause the processing, add all the export items, and then start the processing and wait.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 16, 2014, 06:55:46 AM
I found something in OSX.

- You can't type to find a file, when the dialog appears to open files.
- The box dialog it's always back to all your windows (The last program you open always goes to front).

Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 16, 2014, 09:16:29 AM
Quote from: budafilms on August 16, 2014, 06:55:46 AM
I found something in OSX.

- You can't type to find a file, when the dialog appears to open files.
- The box dialog it's always back to all your windows (The last program you open always goes to front).

Thanks!

I don't quite understand the first issue. Can you explain a bit more?

The issue with the file dialog appearing behind the main window is known, but I have no idea right now how to solve it. Basically, the OS is making a stacking order mistake here (because the dialog is launched by a separate process to the main UI) and I have no programming API easily available to me to fix it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 16, 2014, 10:20:01 AM
Quote from: baldand on August 16, 2014, 09:16:29 AM
I don't quite understand the first issue. Can you explain a bit more?

When you open your application, appears a box dialog to open the file.
That dialog box include up to your right, an spotlight to find a file that you don't remember where it is.
That spotlight doesn't work.

I can't insert an image in this site, I left it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/foq9ekz60o3qu9s/box.tiff
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on August 16, 2014, 11:55:02 PM
@baland

i have created some issues which i came over at version 1.2.2

1. mouse pointer disappears.. (i wrote that in another post)
2. aspect ratio is wrong when a.) resizing the window to very big one, b.) going to fullsize (tab)

but the most problematic one is this one:
3. pink highlights in davinci resolve 11
the interesting thing: material which is converted with rawmagic is working fine.

thx sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on August 17, 2014, 08:21:47 AM
Hey Baldand,

I just want to retype what I typed in IRC as you weren't around, and this way there's a more static copy.

In regards to black magic cameras and the way they shoot raw. And in this case the "Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera".

It shoots a DNG sequence with a WAV file. The DNGs are 1952x1112 (reported as 1920x1080 on the site).
They are 12 bits, which is where the error comes about in MlRawViewer:  raise IOError # Only support 14 or 16 bitsPerSample
It does print out info on the file:





FPS:24.0 (24, 1)
brightness8.57418770029
Black level:256
White level:51080
BitsPerSample:12

Unsupported BitsPerSample =  12 (should be 14 or 16)
Which my friend claims he did shoot it at 24fps.

In addition the file naming scheme for one file follows:
For the wav:
name_C0000.wav
For the dngs:
name_C0000_000000.dng
name_C0000_000001.dng
name_C0000_000002.dng
name_C0000_000003.dng
and so on.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: cinema5D on August 17, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
In reply to your PM:
Yes the app still crashes randomly and the pointer is still not there in version 1.2.2 on my iMac 13,2 3.2GHZ with GTX 680MX

Also the "log" doesn't look right. It's all pink and too bright. It has to be changed to represent something like the BMCC's log which is more accurate for color correction and appropriate for this kind of sensor.
Also if you continue work on this app please make text when mouseovering over the symbols so people can learn what they mean.

Thanks for your work. I put a link in our guide: LINK (http://www.cinema5d.com/guide-raw-on-a-5d-mark-iii-magic-lantern/)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 17, 2014, 04:43:18 PM
Quote from: cinema5D on August 17, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
In reply to your PM:
Yes the app still crashes randomly and the pointer is still not there in version 1.2.2 on my iMac 13,2 3.2GHZ with GTX 680MX

Ok, this really sounds like something new. I definitely need to get both the app's log file from the $USER\.lrawviewer\mlrawviewer.log, and also the OS crash information. I assume you are using recent OS X - e.g. 10.9.4?

Quote from: cinema5D on August 17, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
Also the "log" doesn't look right. It's all pink and too bright. It has to be changed to represent something like the BMCC's log which is more accurate for color correction and appropriate for this kind of sensor.

The log curve is quite bright - it is just a pure log function without any S-curve. But your description of it being pink makes me wonder what exactly you are seeing, because there should not be any colour cast coming from the Log mode. Do you only see pink in Log - does colour from the other tone map functions look correct?

Quote from: cinema5D on August 17, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
Also if you continue work on this app please make text when mouseovering over the symbols so people can learn what they mean.

There is an existing enhancement request for this. Please vote for it: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/47/tool-tips (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/47/tool-tips)

Quote from: cinema5D on August 17, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
Thanks for your work. I put a link in our guide: LINK (http://www.cinema5d.com/guide-raw-on-a-5d-mark-iii-magic-lantern/)

Thanks for updating the link to the latest version.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: frenchps49 on August 17, 2014, 09:21:28 PM
QuoteThe log curve is quite bright - it is just a pure log function without any S-curve. But your description of it being pink makes me wonder what exactly you are seeing, because there should not be any colour cast coming from the Log mode. Do you only see pink in Log - does colour from the other tone map functions look correct?

I thought I was the only one to see this. Yes, Log is not right (pinkish cast). It used to be but it went wrong in recent versionS. And the others (sRGB etc.) look correct.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 18, 2014, 08:16:27 AM
Quote from: frenchps49 on August 17, 2014, 09:21:28 PM
I thought I was the only one to see this. Yes, Log is not right (pinkish cast). It used to be but it went wrong in recent versionS. And the others (sRGB etc.) look correct.

Can you give some details about your computer, OS version and GPU - maybe a screenshot of difference between old/working and new/broken log output with same frame, and if possible version number when it broke. Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 18, 2014, 10:38:17 AM
Hi Andrew! I had something similar getting pink cast in the latest version. Especially when lowering highlights with dual iso dng,s. Have not compared with older versions. I sent you a sprendpackage with files. Don,t know if you can reproducue the issue. I,m on a macbook pro 12 inch OSX mavericks Nvidia 750.
Thanks.
//D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: csound on August 18, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
Full screen is mode is cropping the image & log does seem excessively bright.  Great app though!  :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: poromaa on August 18, 2014, 06:59:14 PM
Hi!
Have some issues with exporting DNG from external drive with hot-pixel-removal on. Made a bug report but could not find a crash log .mlrawviewer.log file (my directory only has other log files describing directory output and versions) https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/90/dng-export-crash-w-spot-vertical-stripe (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issue/90/dng-export-crash-w-spot-vertical-stripe)

Workaround: move directory for conversion to local disk.
Really like the hot-pixel removal! Great job!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: zacshome on August 19, 2014, 04:22:27 AM
Is it possible to use the .mov files as proxies to relink into resolve now?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on August 19, 2014, 09:53:50 AM
Quote from: cinema5D on August 17, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
Also the "log" doesn't look right. It's all pink and too bright. It has to be changed to represent something like the BMCC's log which is more accurate for color correction and appropriate for this kind of sensor.

Hey Guys, nice to see you here!

I don't have any color-cast issues on my Hackintosh at all (after setting WB, but I assume you did that).
Specs are i5 3570k, GTX570 TI, 16 GB RAM

Regarding the log curve contrast I have the following proposal:
(http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/log%20formula.PNG)

or in Derive notation:
y = LOG((x + 2^(14 - z))/2^(14 - z), 2)*(1024/z)

"z" describes the amount of DR you want to map logarythmically into the picture. Don't know if that is a proper sentence, but I hope you know what I mean ;)

Currently it's at 10, which brings 0 EV / 18 % grey in at 60 %. 7,8 should bring it to 50 % and 6,2 to 40.
From my PoV 8 stops of DR should be sufficient, since the Canon cameras are quite noisy in the shadows anyway.

If you would need more DR, the HDR curve is quite nice as well and, if exposure is adjusted, looks similar to Adobe Camera RAW's gamma.
You need to expand the highlights a bit, but that's a quick fix...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: KurtAugust on August 19, 2014, 01:03:48 PM
I absolutely love the program. If only because audio becomes so much easier. And I prefer the color processing to Resolve. Would it be possible to also have a Prores 422 output setting? I love the debayering, but I seem to get more color noise at higher iso's than files processed with ACR (or am I doing something wrong). We could use 422 for offline editing.

For me personally, even if it still has some quirks, this is a huge step in the whole ML development. Thank you!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on August 19, 2014, 01:50:24 PM
Hi Kurt, ProRes 422 can be configured easily. If you need a different picture size, you can add a resize filter to the ffmpeg string.

Have a look at page 31, everything should be there!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 19, 2014, 03:29:15 PM
Quote from: KurtAugust on August 19, 2014, 01:03:48 PM
I absolutely love the program. If only because audio becomes so much easier. And I prefer the color processing to Resolve. Would it be possible to also have a Prores 422 output setting? I love the debayering, but I seem to get more color noise at higher iso's than files processed with ACR (or am I doing something wrong). We could use 422 for offline editing.

For me personally, even if it still has some quirks, this is a huge step in the whole ML development. Thank you!

One downside with the AMaZE debayering is that it seems keen to "invent detail" whenever it processes more noisy content. It's also possible that some of the preprocessing I'm doing prior to debayer is making this worse, especially in darker areas - maybe something to look at in the future. 
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 19, 2014, 05:21:19 PM
Hi Andrew! Seems I get normal exports without magenta cast in highlights going from dng to mov after all with version 1.2.2. Don,t know what was before. Can have mixed up with some strange dng;s. Sorry if that is the case.

*update. So I found out that selecting stripe correction causes irregular magenta cast in highlights. Just tried. Without stripe correction on, no magenta issues.

Another question. I think it would be good to have the white balance picker set to pick as long as you like and after you found your correct white balance you could maybe press the picker again to exit the function? If it is hard to implement I,d rather have the way it was before. One pick is to little I believe. Leaves you to go select the picker to many times :).
/D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: poromaa on August 20, 2014, 11:00:23 AM
I can confirm Danne about Magenta cast when Stripe/spot-correction is on. It only happens (it seems) if there is something overexposed in the scene.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: KurtAugust on August 20, 2014, 08:58:37 PM
Quote from: ToS_Maverick on August 19, 2014, 01:50:24 PM
Hi Kurt, ProRes 422 can be configured easily. If you need a different picture size, you can add a resize filter to the ffmpeg string.

Have a look at page 31, everything should be there!

Thanks for pointing that out! So to recap for any other half-brained people like me out there using FCP 7 on Mac OS X 10.6.8 (and perhaps myself in the future)

To set up Prores 422 HQ encoding with audio settings adjusted from page 31 here:

1) Make sure MLRawViewer is working well as it is.
2) Make hidden files visible in finder by either using the terminal or an application. Lazy as I am, I used the latter.
3) Go to your user directory. Then go to the hidden directory '.mlrawviewer' in there are the configuration files. You can made an alias of this directory and made it visible by removing the dot in front. Now you turn off showing hidden files and still have easy acces to the configuration files.
4) Open ffmpegWithAudioConfig. Make a copy of the standard Prores 4444 code for future reference (or just delete the file if you mess up and it will be regenerated). Insert this code for Prores 422 HQ encoding WITH audio that gets accepted by FCP7 (at least in my current testing)

-f mov -vf vflip -vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 3 -pix_fmt yuv422p10le -acodec pcm_s16le %s.MOV

5) Save the configuration file.
6) Render out your files as would otherwise.

In my test files this generated perfectly accepted FCP 7. The code on page 31 made me render audio (known ffmpeg bug).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jonas18z on August 22, 2014, 01:51:18 PM
On mac the user interface is very different from regular programs. Why no meny system?  Just only shortcuts and icons?

I want a user interface more like Adobe media encoder or something like that add files and have a preset and batch


Or is this only me?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on August 22, 2014, 02:16:32 PM
@jonas18z Yup. It's only you.

QuoteI want a user interface more like Adobe media encoder or something like that add files and have a preset and batch

Did you actually read back your message before you posted it? Do you know that this app is FREE? Do you ever use the words please and thank-you?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jimmyD30 on August 22, 2014, 03:08:20 PM
Free apps for experimental software are sometimes more focused on solid and stable functionality rather than fully-featured/feature rich graphical user interfaces and may have actually started off as a command-line tool with no GUI at all.

I'm sure the developer is interested in receiving user feedback, that's how apps get better, but keep in mind the free, open source, and experimental environment in which ML and its related apps exist in.

Also, with cross-platform apps, the GUI objects don't always translate well from OS to OS, so app creators may opt to minimize the usage of such to streamline development considering they are donating their time.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jonas18z on August 22, 2014, 04:27:53 PM
Sure, but why not just regular menus now you need to know what the icons menas and the shortcut to use the software.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jimmyD30 on August 22, 2014, 04:49:49 PM
See above explanation ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.1.7 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on August 22, 2014, 06:20:28 PM
Quote from: baldand on August 11, 2014, 06:35:29 PM
It very much sounds - though I can't confirm for sure without the files in my hands - as though the silent picture MLV code is not writing the MLVI block at the start of the subsequent files (.M00, .M01, etc) in the series.
Quote from: dmilligan on August 22, 2014, 06:18:22 PM
I've (hopefully) fixed the issue with MLVI headers. Testers needed: https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/pull-request/588/silent-pics-mlv-timelapse-write-the-mlvi/diff
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on August 22, 2014, 06:39:36 PM
Hello! Can somebody please post the latest nighty with silen picture mlv for 5d mk3 cause i can not compile fir myself.  Thank you
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jonas18z on August 22, 2014, 06:54:11 PM
Quote from: jimmyD30 on August 22, 2014, 04:49:49 PM
See above explanation ;)

But the menu  file-> source, hide console, clear console. Edit -> cut,copy, paste, clear, increase font sieze, decrease font size, start dictation, special charaters. Doesn't make any sense to me.  I din't try the linux and mac version.

For just playing files it's fine  but batch processing is a pain.
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/digital-video/batch-encoding-with-adobe-media-encoder/

also check raw2cdng for a much better workflow.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 23, 2014, 03:15:31 AM
Quote from: jonas18z on August 22, 2014, 06:54:11 PM
But the menu  file-> source, hide console, clear console. Edit -> cut,copy, paste, clear, increase font sieze, decrease font size, start dictation, special charaters. Doesn't make any sense to me.  I din't try the linux and mac version.

For just playing files it's fine  but batch processing is a pain.
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/digital-video/batch-encoding-with-adobe-media-encoder/

also check raw2cdng for a much better workflow.

Please, write a list with facts - not opinions or adjetives - about the differences between applications. It's confuse an emotional for others users that are looking for a good app. Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: claudio on August 23, 2014, 05:00:46 PM
Hello,
I have a problem with the DNG files converted from MLV with MiRawViewer (1.2.2). When I open the DNG file in DaVinci Resolve Lite all the sequence is black. If I convert the same files in MOV the problem doesn't happen.
Thanks

Camera Canon 5d mark III ML
Macbook Pro OSX 10.6.8
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 25, 2014, 11:02:19 PM
Test build... I made a Mac test build of the current source as version 1.2.3

I've been working on some initial support for LUTs as an alternative to the standard curves. Up to 3 LUTs are supported - 1D -> 3D -> 1D. A few standard 1D LUTs are supplied, and more can be imported from .CUBE files. Import LUTs with Shift-L, and Use Shift LEFT/RIGHT, Shift UP/DOWN, Shift Z/X to select the LUTs. The UI is not at all polished, but I would be interested to hear early feedback from anyone who has some 3D or 1D LUTs they can try out. Don't forget to turn the old curves to Linear before you try the LUTs, else everything will be extra bright.

Due to popular demand, I also added some basic tool tips when hovering over buttons.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_3_mac.dmg (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_3_mac.dmg)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 26, 2014, 12:07:20 AM
Tooltips are great!
The new white balance picker is even more great :)
Luts work very good. Tried applying some free downloaded luts, they worked. provided luts worked great. Being able to use three on top of each other. Nice.
I miss the red paus button a little.
Idea. Maybe a stop/abort button if you want to abort ongoing export instead of closing the whole app? Low priority suggestion.

A little clip exported with HDR tonemapping in 3x mode from a test roll I did when shooting some real estate.


Thanks a lot
/D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 26, 2014, 07:13:04 AM
Quote from: Danne on August 26, 2014, 12:07:20 AM
Idea. Maybe a stop/abort button if you want to abort ongoing export instead of closing the whole app? Low priority suggestion.

@danne
All controls are still there on keys. From the README file:
Y - Pause or continue processing of the export queue. (this is the old "Record" icon)
X - Cancel current export job (and start next one in queue)
Z - Cancel all export jobs
Maybe I'll put some UI for the cancel ops in future version.

@all I also now added Windows version of 1.2.3
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_3_win32.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_3_win32.zip)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: claudio on August 26, 2014, 08:05:56 AM
Quote from: claudio on August 23, 2014, 05:00:46 PM
Hello,
I have a problem with the DNG files converted from MLV with MiRawViewer (1.2.2). When I open the DNG file in DaVinci Resolve Lite all the sequence is black. If I convert the same files in MOV the problem doesn't happen.
Thanks

Camera Canon 5d mark III ML
Macbook Pro OSX 10.6.8
I tried with Resolve 11 and everything is okay.
Thanks Baldand
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ItsMeLenny on August 26, 2014, 08:18:25 AM
Quote from: Danne on August 26, 2014, 12:07:20 AM
A little clip exported with HDR tonemapping in 3x mode from a test roll I did when shooting some real estate.

Thanks, now I know how to get to the dunny in high dynamic range.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 26, 2014, 09:50:34 AM
Quote from: baldand on August 26, 2014, 07:13:04 AM
@danne
All controls are still there on keys. From the README file:
Y - Pause or continue processing of the export queue. (this is the old "Record" icon)
X - Cancel current export job (and start next one in queue)
Z - Cancel all export jobs
Maybe I'll put some UI for the cancel ops in future version.

Oh, even better. Cool.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on August 26, 2014, 10:07:21 AM
hello baland,

great thank you,..

i wonder if you have resolved  the highlight problem from issue #88 in the new 1.2.3 version?? :)


greets.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 26, 2014, 10:53:03 AM
Quote from: swinxx on August 26, 2014, 10:07:21 AM
hello baland,

great thank you,..

i wonder if you have resolved  the highlight problem from issue #88 in the new 1.2.3 version?? :)


greets.

I made a change which may have resolved that. Would be great if you could test it and let me know if that still happens.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on August 26, 2014, 12:47:42 PM
@baland:
great. thank you.
i will test it tomorrow..
greets. sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: KurtAugust on August 26, 2014, 02:59:20 PM
Quote from: baldand on August 25, 2014, 11:02:19 PM
Test build... I made a Mac test build of the current source as version 1.2.3

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_3_mac.dmg (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_3_mac.dmg)

Works great! (Well, some layering issues in the GUI, but as I understand there isn't much you can do about it. Perhaps just tell it to put the dialog windows behind the video, and it will show it correctly  :) )

Thank you very much!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 26, 2014, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: KurtAugust on August 26, 2014, 02:59:20 PM
Works great! (Well, some layering issues in the GUI, but as I understand there isn't much you can do about it. Perhaps just tell it to put the dialog windows behind the video, and it will show it correctly  :) )

Good to hear. Thanks for testing it.

My eventual plan is to integrate all those dialogs into the main view rather than have them as stand-alone windows. Then there won't be any stacking order problems. But it's going to take a bit of effort to get the file dialogs to a similar level of functionality because I can't reuse any standard code for that.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: TTGator on August 26, 2014, 04:10:05 PM
I have 1.2.2 installed on Mac and have a question about skipping to the next .RAW file in the directory. The first page states:

Jump to next/previous RAW or MLV files in same directory as current file using O/P keys.

It also says later that I/O control input/output points, and that seems to be accurate. Is there really a way to jump between files in the same directory to view them? Because that would be awesome :)

EDIT: Oh I see that it's J/K as stated in the full list of keys. Kept missing it somehow. I think the Feature list needs to be corrected though ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 26, 2014, 08:55:05 PM
Quote from: TTGator on August 26, 2014, 04:10:05 PM
EDIT: Oh I see that it's J/K as stated in the full list of keys. Kept missing it somehow. I think the Feature list needs to be corrected though ;)

Well spotted. It's fixed now.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: KurtAugust on August 26, 2014, 11:28:59 PM
Would it be a good idea to include the shortcuts in the application itself as a help file of some sorts? I need to switch back to either a browser or text file a lot to doublecheck I'm not entering a wrong command on a crucial moment.

Perhaps I'm trying to do too much tasks simultaneously.

It will become even more helpful as there will be more and more different versions floating around on people's computers.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on August 27, 2014, 01:49:47 AM
The built in Log Luts are amazing! Having Log5-16 like that is great! Would it be possible to add 1-4 though? Could be useful when combining with other Luts.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 27, 2014, 07:28:01 AM
Quote from: kyrobb on August 27, 2014, 01:49:47 AM
The built in Log Luts are amazing! Having Log5-16 like that is great! Would it be possible to add 1-4 though? Could be useful when combining with other Luts.

Interesting idea. I generated those to try (along with all the other built in LUTs as .cube files).
Just import the Log1-4.cube files with the Shift-L Import LUT option. Let us know if they seem useful!

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_LUTS_1_0.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_LUTS_1_0.zip)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 27, 2014, 09:43:17 AM
Awesome. Thanks for the additional luts. Where are they stored? Might wanna erase the ones that are not used.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 27, 2014, 10:13:28 AM
LUTs are stored in 2 files under your $HOME\.mlrawviewer\ dir - names are lut1d and lut3d

Until better LUT choice and management is done (in a later version), your only option for now is to delete either of those files. Next time you run the program the default version (e.g. containing default 1D LUTs) will be recreated without any of the user LUTs you imported.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.2 (RAW/MLV/CDNG viewer/converter, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on August 27, 2014, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: kyrobb on August 27, 2014, 01:49:47 AM
The built in Log Luts are amazing! Having Log5-16 like that is great! Would it be possible to add 1-4 though? Could be useful when combining with other Luts.

Just FYI, the number indicates roughly the amount of DR/stops in the picture. The 8 stop variant (Log 8 ) seems to be the sweet spot for capturing most of the Canon sensor's dynamic range vs the noise and also seems to work well with ProRes. If you use a more contrasty log curve, you can get away with more compression (ProRes 422 for example).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 27, 2014, 10:37:34 PM
Really like the luts
[img=http://s28.postimg.org/5f9fcf221/Screen_Shot_2014_08_27_at_22_07_11.jpg] (http://postimg.org/image/5f9fcf221/)

First run without post production filmed in 3x zoom mode.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on August 28, 2014, 12:22:28 AM
Thank you for the files baldand! Much appreciated! And thanks for the info Maverick. It works like I hoped! I can leave sRGB on and then push the blacks if necessary with the Log1-4 Luts. This little program is amazing!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: csound on August 28, 2014, 05:03:41 AM
Thanks Baldand great program. I've noticed full screen toggle seems to be cropping the image.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rrrmusic on August 28, 2014, 05:39:25 AM
Where is the LUT location in MAC?. I want to replace them with the Osiris LUT's
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 28, 2014, 05:57:08 AM
Quote from: rrrmusic on August 28, 2014, 05:39:25 AM
Where is the LUT location in MAC?. I want to replace them with the Osiris LUT's

Use the LUT import dialogue, find the LUTs on your file system, and select them all. Then they should be available for use.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 28, 2014, 06:08:44 AM
Quote from: csound on August 28, 2014, 05:03:41 AM
I've noticed full screen toggle seems to be cropping the image.

What resolution are your videos, and what resolution is your display? Do they have a different aspect ratio? Are they clipped on the sides, or top/bottom?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rrrmusic on August 28, 2014, 06:12:17 AM
Yes I use Shift L and import some ones after that press Shift and right or left arrow but only applies the default ones.
???
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 28, 2014, 06:49:07 AM
Those are 3D LUT, so use Shift-UP/DOWN
Quote from: rrrmusic on August 28, 2014, 06:12:17 AM
Yes I use Shift L and import some ones after that press Shift and right or left arrow but only applies the default ones.
???
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rrrmusic on August 28, 2014, 07:12:01 AM
Yes thank you! Amazing Job. Import osiris luts export to prores without problems. Wohooo :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 28, 2014, 07:33:04 AM
Quote from: rrrmusic on August 28, 2014, 07:12:01 AM
Import osiris luts export to prores without problems. Wohooo :)

Great to hear that works!

I guess you used a 1D Log LUT first - which variants seems good for use with the Osiris LUTs?

It would be nice to see some samples of the kind of output you can get with this combination.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: csound on August 28, 2014, 09:24:54 AM
[What resolution are your videos, and what resolution is your display? Do they have a different aspect ratio? Are they clipped on the sides, or top/bottom?]

video resolution is 1920 x 1080 display 2560 x 1440 iMac 27inch

the image is cropping quite a bit on the right hand side
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: csound on August 28, 2014, 10:07:02 AM
Quote from: baldand on August 28, 2014, 06:08:44 AM
What resolution are your videos, and what resolution is your display? Do they have a different aspect ratio? Are they clipped on the sides, or top/bottom?

video resolution is 1920 x 1080 display 2560 x 1440 iMac 27inch

the image is cropping quite a bit on the right hand side

(sorry just figured how to use quote function .. :o)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on August 28, 2014, 10:51:41 AM
I think I have created this issue at bitbucket..
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Mkolaj on August 28, 2014, 04:43:17 PM
Hi,

I am using the new surface pro 3 and the app crashes (closes immediately) whenever I try to open MLV file. Doesn't matter if I drag the file or open it via the app.

The logs say:

Using GLFW
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 304, in __draw
  File "<string>", line 986, in onDraw
  File "<string>", line 969, in init
  File "<string>", line 255, in __init__
  File "<string>", line 111, in __init__
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\ShaderPreprocess", line 177, in __init__
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLCompute", line 76, in __init__
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\OpenGL.GL.shaders", line 196, in compileProgram
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\OpenGL.GL.shaders", line 108, in check_validate
RuntimeError: Validation failure (0):
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 2086, in <module>
  File "<string>", line 2080, in main
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 247, in run
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 336, in __idle
  File "<string>", line 1355, in onIdle
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'isDirty'
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 28, 2014, 08:38:32 PM
I,m sure many of you know this already but if you like to create your own luts it,s a piece of cake in davinci resolve lite. Just tried, and it worked splendidly. Thanks Andrew. Workflow in raw is faster than h.264 now :).

http://makingitcompatible.blogspot.se/2013/07/creating-custom-lut-in-davinci-resolve.html
Title: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: KurtAugust on August 28, 2014, 09:36:49 PM
Oh, wow, that's really cool, I hadn't realized. This is becoming such a good tool to deliver edit files.
Imagine shooting something raw and then being able to deliver edit one-pass color corrected files quite easily (mlv-->lut-->prores) while you are sleeping. You couldn't imagine this a year ago (on a shoestring budget).

I will definitely create some lut's for basic color correction.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rrrmusic on August 29, 2014, 02:40:06 AM
LUT Import Test with VisionColor Osiris

(http://i59.tinypic.com/20jom6r.png)

(http://i62.tinypic.com/nwg6lu.jpg)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: zacshome on August 29, 2014, 02:57:40 AM
Great stuff, I mite start shooting raw for smaller projects and just export them as 444 files and miss the whole resolve part, would save a lot of time.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on August 29, 2014, 06:47:51 AM
Hello Baland!

lut support is really a very nice implementation. would it be possible to add a function to bypass all luts with one shortcut to compare the material with the original one?
the lut support opens up a whole new dimension for on set previewing :)

ah and would it be also possible to add the anamorphic and slow-motion changes in a short tool tip (which one is selected at the moment) that would be also very handy..

Another Dream Feature would be OFX Neat Video Denoiser Support :) no idea if this would be possible and how complicated it would be..
cause then you could denoise the material at first with neat video then apply a lut and then export to whatever format you want.. :)



thank you.
sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kgv5 on August 29, 2014, 07:30:03 AM
All those improvements are great. Unfortunatelly it is hard to admit but seems that i dont know how to use the app. I have read the first page and some of the 35 pages in this topic. I am on windows 7. When im opening the app, chosing file it is ok. The file is playing nicely, when i want to play another file and drag and drop the next file nothing happens. I mean it still plays the first one.  How to see the next file?
I set all things and want to make an export as mov (prores), press C to export all file, the file name appears on the screen with 0.00%. In the target folder it makes two wav files: *.wav and *_00.wav. There is also *.mrx file. I press Y button to start conversion but nothing happens at all, the name with 0.00% dissapears, no new file is created in the directory.

THis is the last part of log file:

MOV export to u'E:/Dolomity 2014 MATERIA\u0141Y/testy mlvrawviewer do skasowania\\M03-1007_000001' started
Set indexed. Frames missing: 2
ffmpeg config (audio): -f mov -vf vflip -vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 4 -alpha_bits 0 -vendor ap4h -q:v 0 -acodec copy %s.MOV
Encoder args: ['C:\\MOJEPR~1\\1MLPOS~1\\MLRAWV~3\\ffmpeg.exe', '-f', 'rawvideo', '-pix_fmt', 'rgb48', '-s', '1920x1080', '-r', '23.976', '-i', '-', '-i', u'E:/Dolomity 2014 MATERIA\u0141Y/testy mlvrawviewer do skasowania\\M03-1007_00.WAV', '-f', 'mov', '-vf', 'vflip', '-vcodec', 'prores_ks', '-profile:v', '4', '-alpha_bits', '0', '-vendor', 'ap4h', '-q:v', '0', '-acodec', 'copy', '-r', '23.976', 'E:/Dolomity 2014 MATERIA\xa3Y/testy mlvrawviewer do skasowania\\M03-1007_000001.MOV']
Traceback (most recent call last


It says something about mov file but no file is made in the target folder. How long more or less should it process 1 GB file (i7, 16GB ram, GTX570) - is this seconds or minutes or hours? Maybe I should wait more than couple of minutes to see the file in the directory? But there is no visible clue of export progress at all.
Exporting to dng works fine.

Damn, how to use this thing? Seems so easy for everyone but me. 


THanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on August 29, 2014, 08:29:29 AM
Quote from: rrrmusic on August 29, 2014, 02:40:06 AM
LUT Import Test with VisionColor Osiris

I'm really puzzled that this looks like that ;)
How does it look like if you set it to Linear => Linear to Log 8 => Vision Color LUT?
You then can control the contrast by switching to a lower log curve and adjusting exposure.

Going sRGB => Log 5 = > VC might cause a strange gamma curve...

Just my 2c
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 29, 2014, 08:45:29 AM
Quote from: kgv5 on August 29, 2014, 07:30:03 AM
All those improvements are great. Unfortunatelly it is hard to admit but seems that i dont know how to use the app. ...
...
Damn, how to use this thing? Seems so easy for everyone but me. 

I'll send you a PM - lets work out together what the problems are and see if we can get you up and running with the others.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on August 29, 2014, 12:50:41 PM
hello baland!

i have converted about 30 dirs with dng files (where no vertical stripe correction was applied before) worked great.
only on of those dirs made mlrawviewer go completely black (no menus, only a black window)
i will create an issue and perhaps you could take a look into it.

thx. sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 29, 2014, 07:23:48 PM
@baldand
1.2.3 for OSX works great for play and export DNG.

Some things in the pop up windows like save (w) and type a new folder to save the footage doesn't work property.

- For example, when you press w and create a new folder, you can't type a name. So, you have to create outside MLRAW a folder to select. So, you start to type and the letters are commands to the image and you have to closed the MLRAW and start again.
- When I select a LUT, the image is exporting with the  LUT, but you can't visualise in the moment, so, you have to check after if the look is what you want.
- When you cancel and export the software doesn't respond. So, you have to reset the computer completely.

Very few things. Except this, everything works great. Thanks for all!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: TTGator on August 29, 2014, 08:29:00 PM
Everyone sounds so excited about this "LUT" stuff. Could someone give a brief synopsis/tutorial on it?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 29, 2014, 09:39:05 PM
In the TXT, when you install the software, explain how to apply the Look Up Table. A Pre configured setting to guide near your final color post production.
If you want to create your own, you can do this in Davinci http://makingitcompatible.blogspot.se/2013/07/creating-custom-lut-in-davinci-resolve.html
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rrrmusic on August 29, 2014, 10:55:11 PM
ToS_Maverick please let me know if you think that looks better now with your recommendation.
Thanks

(http://i58.tinypic.com/29cro0j.png)

IMG]http://i61.tinypic.com/14sljcn.png[/IMG]
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on August 30, 2014, 04:30:10 AM
Would it be possible to toggle between ProRes4444 and ProRes422?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: spnsir on August 30, 2014, 04:43:02 AM
I can't add LUTs.

Windows 8.1 64bit
MlRawViewer 1.2.3

Open a clip (via double-clicking MLV file / via opening MlRawViewer.exe and navigating to file)
Shift left and right browses the 1D LUTs
Shift up and down does nothing
Shift L to add LUTs
Window pops up
Navigate to LUT (tried adding one at a time, or multiple, from desktop, or my Resolve LUT folder)
Select Open
Mouse Icon changes to busy wheel for a half second
Shift up and down does nothing
Shift left and right changes 1D LUT

C:/Users/<username>/.mlrawviewer containts lut1d file, directory file, and mlrawviewer.log file, nothing else

Any idea what's going on? I can't add 1D or 3D LUTs
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kgv5 on August 30, 2014, 06:35:59 AM
Exactly the same problem with LUTs like spnsir have. Windows 7 64bit.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ashfleeburgooben on August 30, 2014, 07:54:09 AM
Make that another with the loading LUTs issue.  Exactly the issue that spnsir describes.  Windows 7 64bit.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Canon eos m on August 30, 2014, 10:04:01 AM
+1 for LUTs coming on
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 30, 2014, 11:24:54 AM
Thanks all for the reports about LUT import on windows not working.

I've tracked down the bug now - unfortunately it's a Windows specific problem in the toolkit I'm using for the dialogs. But I should be able to find a workaround for it and get this fixed soon.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 30, 2014, 11:51:01 AM
Ok, I have a fix for the LUT import on windows now. It will be included in the next binary release.

However, I also have a small patch you can apply to 1.2.3 for windows to fix the problem:
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_3_win32_lut_import_fix_2.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_3_win32_lut_import_fix_2.zip)

Open that file and copy "dialogs.exe" over the old version wherever you installed MlRawViewer_1_2_3. Then the LUT imports should work

Sorry for all the trouble

edit:link updated to correct version
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on August 30, 2014, 12:00:18 PM
Thank you so much Baldand.
On my mac Luts work great.

MlrawViewer has become a post production monster.

I asked you a couple of month ago if you can add an option to export the Mov or the DNG naming after shot name and take number when using Ime text, instead of the original mlv file...

this could save a lot of time in post


Something that can be done? 

Best
David.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 30, 2014, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: kyrobb on August 30, 2014, 04:30:10 AM
Would it be possible to toggle between ProRes4444 and ProRes422?

Yes. I plan to add this option soon. And maybe also some other export options like H.264, and JPEG or TIFF sequences.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mario1000 on August 30, 2014, 03:52:08 PM
Quote from: baldand on August 30, 2014, 11:51:01 AM
Ok, I have a fix for the LUT import on windows now. It will be included in the next binary release.

However, I also have a small patch you can apply to 1.2.3 for windows to fix the problem:
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_3_win32_lut_import_fix.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_3_win32_lut_import_fix.zip)

Open that file and copy "dialogs.exe" over the old version wherever you installed MlRawViewer_1_2_3. Then the LUT imports should work

Sorry for all the trouble

Hi baldand

thanks for your quick reply to the reported error but I think you have not included the right "dialogs.exe" into your patch. It appears me to be the same as it is in your last release. Did you mixed up the exe-Files?

Thank you very much for your efforts.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 30, 2014, 04:51:13 PM
Oh dear. You were right. Here is the correct version:

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_3_win32_lut_import_fix_2.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_2_3_win32_lut_import_fix_2.zip)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ashfleeburgooben on August 30, 2014, 06:20:58 PM
Baldand, that does indeed fix this LUT loading issue on my machine anyway.  I hope you hear it enough but I'm going to say it again anyway.  Thank you for all your hard work on this.  Please know that it is greatly appreciated!  You are doing some amazing work!
Title: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 30, 2014, 06:46:16 PM
Hello everyone again... I've been up and running around using latest nightly builds ML on my 5D3 for work purposes and I must admit that life without ML would have been horrendous. THANK YOU to A1ex once again!

Now this dream of ours has just gotten bigger with the installation of MLRawViewer 1.2.3 on my Mac. I've showed this amazing software to my managers at work and they are floored!!!

Now I can't wait to test them out with several LUT's that we mainly use for work on both 5D3 and 7D.

In case you guys aren't aware but I shoot for Time Warner Cable Sportsnet so I get the luxury to follow around Lakers, Dodgers, Galaxy and Sparks players. We also do intensive interviews and features using ML's useful features.

Again I can't imagine life at work for me without the usability that ML provides us.

Be in touch soon, Baldand! :)

SJ
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: spnsir on August 30, 2014, 09:36:24 PM
LUT import working now, thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kabz on August 31, 2014, 04:27:03 AM
Seeing Apple Prores 444 on my 5D3 clips is great -- the latitude in color grading is amazing.

I'm going back to read through this whole thread, wanted to say thank you to Baldand.

Quick dumb question: Is there any loss/compression in going to MOV vs DNG? Also is the live color grading in the program just for reference, or are people applying LUTS on the clips before color grading further?

Again, going to read through the read unless someone would like to enlighten me. Thank you.

edited for spelling
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kgv5 on August 31, 2014, 08:22:31 AM
Everything fine now with LUTs, thanks :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 31, 2014, 10:01:39 AM
Quote from: Kabz on August 31, 2014, 04:27:03 AM
Is there any loss/compression in going to MOV vs DNG? Also is the live color grading in the program just for reference, or are people applying LUTS on the clips before color grading further?

ProRes is 10bit, so some of the original data has been lost in conversion. If you want to grade in e.g. Resolve. You should use DNG, no question about that.

I see 2 cases for LUTs in MLRV.
1. Quick review of takes, e.g. on set using a LUT matching the final intended style. Proper grading done later with DNG in Resolve.
2. Faster workflow with simple grading e.g. with commercial LUTs like Osiris. Only editing done later with ProRes.

Probably MLRV needs still more grading features before 2 is really viable though.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on August 31, 2014, 10:29:57 AM
as i try to work with dngs and resolve 11, i can report some struggles with ofx plugins and dng sequences.. those sequences might be so cpu and gpu hungry that my machine crashes all the time when using neat video in conjunction with dng files and some colorgrading nodes (incl power windows, alpha mattes, ect..) - i have to mention that my machine is a really strong one, and i work with a raid system and 12 -> 6 TB Video drive

so i tried different workflows and they are all not ideal at the moment, cause of the wrong primary color profiling of ml raw material.. (this will be a problem until some of the major companies start to support the Canon Raw Sensor Output of those cameras (eg. 5dMK3 - which could be  seen as best option for ml raw filmers at the moment)
when using resolve we are forced to use profiles like bmd4k or bmd, rec709, ect. and they are not working very well with all the different luts cause the colors don´t look right..

i think what the real benefit of a mlrawvierwer lut workflow could be is: porting the ml raw material to a common colorspace (perhaps with the new cinelog-c profiles) and convert the material to the best prores format for later editing and color grading with e.g. resolve 11. this could be the most resource friendly workflow and much faster than working with the dngs.. and i write those lines althought i only tried to work with the original dngs for now..
we will see.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: escho on August 31, 2014, 10:49:06 AM
Hi

I just builded this program from source, using OpenSuse 13.1. I gave it a short try. Looks great!

There are some small points, I noticed for the beginning:

Building failed, because the python-headers are not installed per default in OpenSuse. The needed package is "python-devel".
Building failed, because tk not installed per default in OpenSuse. The needed package is "python-tk".

A little advice in your installing notes would be good, I guess.

Then I started mlrawviewer.

edgar@linux-indh:~/mlrawviewer> ./mlrawviewer.py
MlRawViewer v1.2.3
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013-2014
pyAudio not available. Cannot play audio
Using GLUT instead of GLFW. Some features may be disabled.


It tells me, that audio playback in not possibe. I searched for pyAudio. This is not in the offical rpm-sources for OpenSuse. I found it in the unstable packages from OpenSuse build-service. I didn´t try to install it, because I don´t need it.

"Using GLUT instead of GLFW. Some features may be disabled." What features are these, which are disabled?

Edgar
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on August 31, 2014, 10:51:05 AM
Quote from: swinxx on August 31, 2014, 10:29:57 AM
so i tried different workflows and they are all not ideal at the moment, cause of the wrong primary color profiling of ml raw material.. (this will be a problem until some of the major companies start to support the Canon Raw Sensor Output of those cameras (eg. 5dMK3 - which could be  seen as best option for ml raw filmers at the moment)
when using resolve we are forced to use profiles like bmd4k or bmd, rec709, ect. and they are not working very well with all the different luts cause the colors don´t look right..

Hi swinxx,

do you happen to have a ColorChecker chard available?
If you import cDNGs in Resolve, use BMDFilm and then use the "Color Match" function, you will get correct colors!
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/color

This also works with Log8 footage. BMDFilm seems to be really close to Log8, therefore this works with ProRes footage as well. I tested this and got 99 % identical results!

BTW, there's something going on behind-the-scenes as well ;)
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/commits/406eaabb69134fd2a9189971187c7063f0a67825
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 31, 2014, 11:08:41 AM
Quote from: escho on August 31, 2014, 10:49:06 AM
"Using GLUT instead of GLFW. Some features may be disabled." What features are these, which are disabled?

I don't use GLUT myself any more so I can't say for sure how well it will work today. But I know that there are problems with the export process.

I would recommend you build the GLFW 3.1 shared library from git:

git clone https://github.com/glfw/glfw
cd glfw
mkdir build
cd build
cmake ..
vi CMakeCache.txt
change this line:BUILD_SHARED_LIBS:BOOL=ON
make
cp src\libglfw.so.3.1 ..\mlrawviewer\libglfw.so.3
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Andy600 on August 31, 2014, 12:11:10 PM
@Baldand - I haven't had a chance to properly look at the source code but have a quick question: We have a couple of Cinelog users who want to use our luts with MLRawViewer. The gamma component part is easy but what primaries does it output as default? sRGB/Rec709?

Also, I just had a look at the bits you are working on (Slog/Slog2 etc). We did a lot of work to find an idealized log gamma for MLV for output to 10bit ProRes/DNxHD using the math from Arri, Sony, Canon etc and anything above Cineon log (~13.5 f-Stops) tends to degrade the image when linearized. It's not apparent in every shot so it might not be obvious without shooting a lot of test charts, a backlit DSC Xyla DR chart etc.

For MLV, Slog and Log-C are basically wasting a lot of space. Also, they tend work best when paired with their associated gamut (i.e. Log-C with Alexa Wide Gamut RGB, S-Log with S-Gamut, Canon C-Log Wide Gamut) and always require a transform lut unless the colorist really knows what they are doing. BMD Film 4k (gamma) is close to ideal for MLV and you should be able to derive the transfer function from the BMD luts that come with Resolve.

@Tos_Maverick - BMD Film is (afaik) a proprietary, non-linear colorspace with no published information on how to get to and from it. Until Blackmagic release this info (they have no plans to do so) you will never get 100% accurate color, although it does still look nice (film-like) to a lot of users. The new Resolve Color Match tool requires you to know 100% what colorspace and gamma the source footage is and, even when this is known, it will only get you closer to photometric color and TBH this is nearly always best done manually with scopes. It currently falls apart with anything when trying to match the DSC One Shot chart (even Alexa, Red, F55 etc) and never gives uniform results with MacBeth charts. It's a nice idea but it's not quite there yet - use with extreme caution.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 31, 2014, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: Andy600 on August 31, 2014, 12:11:10 PM
@Baldand - I haven't had a chance to properly look at the source code but have a quick question: We have a couple of Cinelog users who want to use our luts with MLRawViewer. The gamma component part is easy but what primaries does it output as default? sRGB/Rec709?

For now everything is converted to standard sRGB/Rec709 primaries. The camera->XYZ matrix is combined with an XYZ->sRGB matrix to do this. With appropriate matrices, other primaries could be supported - I'm open to suggestions or contributions.

Quote from: Andy600 on August 31, 2014, 12:11:10 PM
Also, I just had a look at the bits you are working on (Slog/Slog2 etc). We did a lot of work to find an idealized log gamma for MLV for output to 10bit ProRes/DNxHD using the math from Arri, Sony, Canon etc and anything above Cineon log (~13.5 f-Stops) tends to degrade the image when linearized. It's not apparent in every shot so it might not be obvious without shooting a lot of test charts, a backlit DSC Xyla DR chart etc.

For MLV, Slog and Log-C are basically wasting a lot of space. Also, they tend work best when paired with their associated gamut (i.e. Log-C with Alexa Wide Gamut RGB, S-Log with S-Gamut, Canon C-Log Wide Gamut) and always require a transform lut unless the colorist really knows what they are doing. BMD Film 4k (gamma) is close to ideal for MLV and you should be able to derive the transfer function from the BMD luts that come with Resolve.

The internal 1D->3D->1D LUT stack is all done with full floating point maths, so there shouldn't be any degradation (apart from due to the low res of 3D LUTs) until the final bake down to 10bit ProRes.

With what is there now in MlRawViewer, do you see it possible for the first 1D LUT to be a Linear->Cinelog conversion you could produce, or would you need some additional colour space changes at that stage?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on August 31, 2014, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: Andy600 on August 31, 2014, 12:11:10 PM
Also, I just had a look at the bits you are working on (Slog/Slog2 etc). We did a lot of work to find an idealized log gamma for MLV for output to 10bit ProRes/DNxHD using the math from Arri, Sony, Canon etc and anything above Cineon log (~13.5 f-Stops) tends to degrade the image when linearized. It's not apparent in every shot so it might not be obvious without shooting a lot of test charts, a backlit DSC Xyla DR chart etc.

For MLV, Slog and Log-C are basically wasting a lot of space. Also, they tend work best when paired with their associated gamut (i.e. Log-C with Alexa Wide Gamut RGB, S-Log with S-Gamut, Canon C-Log Wide Gamut) and always require a transform lut unless the colorist really knows what they are doing. BMD Film 4k (gamma) is close to ideal for MLV and you should be able to derive the transfer function from the BMD luts that come with Resolve.

Hi Andy, thanks for chiming in!

We are aware that S-Log and Log-C cover a huge DR spectrum. S-Log2, with the DR from a 5D for example only covers 75 % of the resulting 10 bit range.
That's because of the huge range above middle gray. When the 5D3 clips, there's still 2-3 stops of additional space in S-Log2.
I think it's still useful for compatibility.

Quote from: Andy600 on August 31, 2014, 12:11:10 PM
@Tos_Maverick - BMD Film is (afaik) a proprietary, non-linear colorspace with no published information on how to get to and from it. Until Blackmagic release this info (they have no plans to do so) you will never get 100% accurate color, although it does still look nice (film-like) to a lot of users. The new Resolve Color Match tool requires you to know 100% what colorspace and gamma the source footage is and, even when this is known, it will only get you closer to photometric color and TBH this is nearly always best done manually with scopes. It currently falls apart with anything when trying to match the DSC One Shot chart (even Alexa, Red, F55 etc) and never gives uniform results with MacBeth charts. It's a nice idea but it's not quite there yet - use with extreme caution.

Coming back to what's the optimal DR for our cameras or the MLV format. The log curve that hit's middle gray perfectly and uses the space most efficiently is IMHO the 8 stop variant.
I don't know what BlackMagic is doing, but they seem to have come to a similar conclusion.

Look at what Color Match has to say, when you feed it with our Log8 ProRes input:
(http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/Screenshots/ColorMatchLog8.png)
(http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/Screenshots/ColorMatchResult.png)

That's not an exact science for sure, but it seems to work and you can transform it to various other gammas as well.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Andy600 on August 31, 2014, 01:50:07 PM
Thanks for the primaries info. That makes it easy :)

We are currently building OCIO configs for the Cinelog luts and moved a lot of the transforms to FP but that's only half the problem. When the image is then transcoded to a log space in a 10bit video container, the DR of the sensor has to be taken into account or you are effectively compressing non-existent information (usually where over bright highlights reside). If the transfer is to Slog, Log-C etc this can be several f-stops of wasted space because those curves are developed for handling much greater DR than Canon DSLR's are capable of. A simple, scaled log function would be the obvious solution but then you you need to factor in where the measured black and white points 'should' be to be able to target a deliverable colorspace accurately. Cineon log, BMD Film/4K gamma does this well for MLV.

I can't see any problem in getting MLRawViewer to output Cinelog-C. I'll have a better look at it this week and see what happens. It can be fully floating point or lut based.

Cinelog-C, as is currently available for Resolve, is basically a high precision shaper lut with a BMD Film to Cineon log 1D component and a non-linear 3D BMD Film to Cinelog colorspace component. The 3D part is only usable with Resolve as it requires the footage to be debayered in BMD Film colorspace first, which is (afaik) something like, but not exactly, Cinema DNG ACES. This caused us big problems with targeting Cinelog-C in anything other than DaVinci Resolve so we have now defined a new linear matrix and log transform (either as a lut or formula) that can be used in OCIO and just about any other app if we know or can define the source colorspace. Resolve is still causing us a minor headache when we use it with debayering set to REC709/Linear but we've nearly overcome this and should have a unified release very soon. In keeping with OICO licensing, the basic Cinelog-C OCIO config, spid1d and spimtx files will be free to use. If my limited coding is up to task I'll try and compile a version of MLRawViewer with basic Cinelog functions and see if it does what I think it can do.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 31, 2014, 02:31:11 PM
Quote from: Andy600 on August 31, 2014, 01:50:07 PM
...I'll try and compile a version of MLRawViewer with basic Cinelog functions and see if it does what I think it can do.

In case you need to change the primaries, look for updateColourMatrix in Viewer.py and change the XYZtosRGB matrix.

When you have something you like, we can work out a way to make that a parameter, or something loaded from a file. One possibility would be to embed it in a special comment in a .cube file containing the 1D LUT so that everything needed would be in one file owned by you.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Andy600 on August 31, 2014, 02:34:18 PM
@ToSMaverick - If you are working raw-to-deliverable in a floating point environment it makes very little difference with whatever logspace you use. The kicker is when you want render an intermediate video file for editing in another NLE or for archiving. If you waste any of the 10bits through using a more aggressive log curve than is required for the useable DR of the sensor you risk image degradation beyond whatever downsampling to 10bit introduces by default. Dan Newman from GoPro was correct to point this out in a previous ML post regarding ProTune. Canon DSLR's simply do not need the extra headroom offered by Slog, Log-C etc and it is much better for image quality (and grading) to use an optimized log curve. The Cineon Log curve is a little more than is actually needed for MLV but it has a lot of benefits and is easily transferable. With all that said, we are all still assuming the DxO figures for the various Canon DSLR raw dynamic ranges to be accurate.

I haven't had a proper look at MLRawViewer yet so my apologies for making assumptions. The 8 stop variant may appear close to BMD Film gamma but unless it is actually identical, transferring it, (assuming it is BMD film gamma) to any other predefined logspace will introduce +/- variance to the power of the target gamma and will not be the same as a direct transfer from linear raw to the target logspace. It's not a big deal for casual users but can be for VFX. If the 8 Stop variant has a linearization lut available you would first apply that then target another gamma.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Andy600 on August 31, 2014, 02:48:15 PM
@Baldand - Thanks for the heads-up. I'll have a good look at it when I get back to work tomorrow :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dknechtg on August 31, 2014, 05:34:37 PM
Hello,
  I'm on Win7.  A few months back I was able to build MLRawviewer v.1.1.3 and use it successfully.  I recently downloaded and tried the executable for v1.2.3 from the Bitbucket repository.  Unfortunately, it crashes after selecting a .RAW file.  It seems the build environment has changed enough where I am no longer able to compile the newer versions, either.   I did some regression testing and found that, starting with V1.1.6, the prebuilt versions all crash with similar traces listed in the logfiles.  Here is an example:

MlRawViewer v1.2.3
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013-2014
Using GLFW
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 304, in __draw
  File "<string>", line 1100, in onDraw
  File "<string>", line 1083, in init
  File "<string>", line 337, in __init__
  File "<string>", line 145, in __init__
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\ShaderPreprocess", line 177, in __init__
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLCompute", line 92, in __init__
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\OpenGL.latebind", line 61, in __call__
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\OpenGL.GL.VERSION.GL_2_0", line 230, in glGetAttribLocation
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\OpenGL.error", line 208, in glCheckError
GLError: GLError(
err = 1282,
description = 'invalid operation',
baseOperation = glGetAttribLocation,
cArguments = (6, 'vertex\x00'),
result = -1
)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 2306, in <module>
  File "<string>", line 2300, in main
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 247, in run
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 336, in __idle
  File "<string>", line 1560, in onIdle
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'isDirty'


  I appreciate the developer's work on such a useful program.  I have been following its development for some time.  Perhaps I am experiencing an issue with hardware support--I am running with an Intel graphics GPU.  Maybe this is an easy problem to solve--I don't have much experience with OpenGL or Python so it's hard for me to know.  If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would be very thankful.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 31, 2014, 06:26:28 PM
Quote from: dknechtg on August 31, 2014, 05:34:37 PM
I did some regression testing and found that, starting with V1.1.6, the prebuilt versions all crash with similar traces listed in the logfiles. ...

Thanks for taking the time to find the version where this started. The next thing to do would be for you to post all the details as a new issue on bitbucket, then I can ask for more info or inform you of the status.

When you do that, please give all details you can about your GPU - e.g. which exact model of Intel GPU, and which CPU model you have. Also, please make sure you have the newest possible graphics drivers for it that you can find.

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues?status=new&status=open)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dknechtg on August 31, 2014, 08:05:17 PM
Please disregard the above issue.  The recommendation to update the display drivers worked.  Thank you very much, baldand, for the quick and effective response.   :D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kgv5 on August 31, 2014, 09:12:43 PM
Quote from: baldand on August 31, 2014, 10:01:39 AM
ProRes is 10bit, so some of the original data has been lost in conversion. If you want to grade in e.g. Resolve. You should use DNG, no question about that.

Are you sure that Proress 4444 isn't 12 bit?
https://www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/docs/Apple_ProRes_White_Paper.pdf
(see page nr 9) According to this prores white paper ProRes 4444 "support image sources up to 12 bits and preserve alpha sample depths up to 16 bits. All Apple ProRes 422 codecs support up to 10-bit image source".
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on August 31, 2014, 09:30:03 PM
Quote from: kgv5 on August 31, 2014, 09:12:43 PM
Are you sure that Proress 4444 isn't 12 bit?
https://www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/docs/Apple_ProRes_White_Paper.pdf
(see page nr 9) According to this prores white paper ProRes 4444 "support image sources up to 12 bits and preserve alpha sample depths up to 16 bits. All Apple ProRes 422 codecs support up to 10-bit image source".

The ProRes encoder in ffmpeg (which MlRawViewer uses) only supports 10 bit 444 data.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kgv5 on September 01, 2014, 12:21:58 AM
Ahh ok, thanks for clarification :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pettermannen on September 02, 2014, 09:38:51 PM
Hi! Been working with MlvViewer for some time. Thanks developers for your work! I´ve been having problems with highlights especially with green. Have now version 1.2.3 I provide a link below to a sample picture, a screen shot from MLVviewer. https://www.dropbox.com/s/b7xjr6kb08rt67y/Sk%C3%A4rmdump%202014-09-02%2021.24.37.png?dl=0
Best Regards Petter
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: escho on September 02, 2014, 09:49:29 PM
Quote from: baldand on August 31, 2014, 11:08:41 AM
I don't use GLUT myself any more so I can't say for sure how well it will work today. But I know that there are problems with the export process.

I would recommend you build the GLFW 3.1 shared library from git:

git clone https://github.com/glfw/glfw
cd glfw
mkdir build
cd build
cmake ..
vi CMakeCache.txt
change this line:BUILD_SHARED_LIBS:BOOL=ON
make
cp src\libglfw.so.3.1 ..\mlrawviewer\libglfw.so.3


Thanks. Will try this, if I run in troubles

Edgar
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pettermannen on September 02, 2014, 09:53:21 PM
Forgot! I use A 5d mark III with ML for 1.1.3 firmware and a build from the 20th of may.
The pink artifacts are not there if I look at DNG´s from mlvmystic.

Best regards
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 03, 2014, 06:16:00 AM
@baland
After experimenting a little bit with some material and some conversion luts i found out that most of them make noise visible a lot more. So being able to denoise the material before applying an input lut would be the best choice. As denoising handle some very complex algorithms it would be best to use such tools.
Within the OFX plugin frame there are some great tools available such as neat video for example. Do you think that it would be possible that this ofx plugin is available for mlrawviewer at some stage of further development. To be efficient it must process the image before the first lut is applied
I have no idea if it would be possible and how complex it is to implement that beast, but apparently you implemented lut support with ease i am really optimistic

Thank you. Greets re
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: eyeoftheabyss on September 04, 2014, 03:56:24 AM
Hey baldand, thank you for creating MlRawViewer. Unfortunately, I've only been able to open the program once on my macbook (OS X Maverick), and since then, it crashes before it opens, meaning, the icon is on the dock as if it's open, but it's not open. I've tried an older version too, the 1.2.2.

Also, I assume it'll work, so I'd like to ask this question now: Does it convert RAW and/or mlv files to cdng? And if it's an mlv file, will it create an audio file?

I've been having trouble with all the other free converters I scan find and none are creating cdng files that can be imported into Premiere without AE.

Thank you
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 05, 2014, 09:58:49 PM
Quote from: eyeoftheabyss on September 04, 2014, 03:56:24 AM
Hey baldand, thank you for creating MlRawViewer. Unfortunately, I've only been able to open the program once on my macbook (OS X Maverick), and since then, it crashes before it opens, meaning, the icon is on the dock as if it's open, but it's not open. I've tried an older version too, the 1.2.2.

Also, I assume it'll work, so I'd like to ask this question now: Does it convert RAW and/or mlv files to cdng? And if it's an mlv file, will it create an audio file?

I think you need to find the ".mlrawviewer" folder inside your home/user folder, and then delete it. Then try reopening the app again.

It can convert RAW & MLV to CDNG, and it can also view CDNG files. It will create audio files from MLV files that contain audio.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Canon eos m on September 06, 2014, 05:46:57 AM
Hi BL do you plan to include the MLViewers ability to convert MLV to HVEC/ H.265 in future. I am currently reading about this codec and am fascinated about its potential.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Francis Frenkel on September 06, 2014, 05:18:15 PM
Hello,

How can I batch several raw files in MlrawViewer (Dng or Prores) ?

I have tried different possibilities...

- Drag and drop a group a raw file.... but noting happend...
- open a window to chooose the raw files...

Could somebody help me ?

Actually I only use MlrawViewer to play my files and choose the one I dont need (or need).

Francis
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on September 06, 2014, 05:22:38 PM
Press "C" from the chosen directory with all your files.

All key commands are in the first post
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 06, 2014, 05:25:26 PM
Quote from: Francis Frenkel on September 06, 2014, 05:18:15 PM
Hello,

How can I batch several raw files in MlrawViewer (Dng or Prores) ?

I have tried different possibilities...

- Drag and drop a group a raw file.... but noting happend...
- open a window to chooose the raw files...

Two ways. Assuming you are using 1.2.3...

1. First open a raw or mlv file to view. Then click the "+" icon or press "E" key on keyboard. It should first ask you where to export to, or if you have done that previously it will start exporting immediately.

2. First open a file from a directory full of files. Then press "C" key. All files in the directory will be added to the export queue, and will start exporting from the top one. It will use the current colour settings for all clips unless you have viewed some of them and set some per-clip settings.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 06, 2014, 05:31:30 PM
Quote from: Canon eos m on September 06, 2014, 05:46:57 AM
Hi BL do you plan to include the MLViewers ability to convert MLV to HVEC/ H.265 in future. I am currently reading about this codec and am fascinated about its potential.

It's possible since ffmpeg (which MlRawViewer uses) is integrating HEVC. But I haven't tried it, and right now it's probably not so useful due to the lack of players that can play those files.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on September 07, 2014, 11:33:21 AM
Just having fun testing out the LUT's...

Special Thanks to Baldand, A1ex & eVeryone else on board!

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3866/14978210409_88f5f06f57_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/oPzf84)

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(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3869/14978363467_70e77641c9_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oPA2BZ)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3844/14978366348_946a70060e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oPA3tE)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3864/14978285000_7e9f41ef0c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oPzCi7)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3875/15164949245_d6bccbaab1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/p75k5a)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 07, 2014, 12:17:48 PM
you should def. correct your whitebalance first cause every screenshot has a orangish look.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on September 08, 2014, 05:07:46 AM
@DeafEyeJedi
can you share your logs?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on September 08, 2014, 08:40:07 AM
@swinxx... White balance? Probably I should have but again I was just going through each LUT to get the look of it. Each LUT can create the warm look just like how it does with film. But Thanks for the follow up.

@budafilms... share my logs? you mean LUT's?

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 08, 2014, 09:22:22 AM
@DeafEyeJedi: take the wb picker and click with your mouse pointer to the white shirt of the young football player :)
when the wb is correct load the 3d luts, with the 1d lut you can change different input log luts to change the curves.. should deliver different results
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on September 08, 2014, 09:14:19 PM
@DeafEyeJedi
Yes, your Lut's, can I try?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: spnsir on September 09, 2014, 05:28:32 AM
Quote from: budafilms on September 08, 2014, 09:14:19 PM
@DeafEyeJedi
Yes, your Lut's, can I try?

they're for sale here:
http://www.vision-color.com/osiris/
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Yarcher on September 09, 2014, 08:03:58 AM
Thanks, for this qool app!

Can't find how to remove imported LUTs on Mac? I'm imported too many, and now try to remove some of them.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on September 09, 2014, 09:36:34 AM
Quote from: Yarcher on September 09, 2014, 08:03:58 AM
Can't find how to remove imported LUTs on Mac? I'm imported too many, and now try to remove some of them.

You have to go to the hidden ".mlrawviewer" folder in your home folder and delete the lut3d file. This will purge all 3D LUTs.
There is no way at the moment to remove individual ones, just the whole bunch!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bwinter88 on September 10, 2014, 07:38:09 AM
baldand,
Thank you so much for your work. This utility is invaluable. Two things:

-is there a way to set the default settings? It defaults to frame-by-frame playback but drop frame playback makes more sense for on-the-fly previewing, and it is a nuisance to have to switch every time I open a new file.

-The aspect ratio correction for 5Dmk3 60p is 1.61x, not 1.4x, curious why this is not an option?

Thanks
Ben
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dpjpandone on September 10, 2014, 07:32:09 PM
I was using 1.1.5 on windows until yesterday, when I upgrade to 1.2.3 + Windows LUT patch.

The DNG sequences that were exported with 1.2.3 contain several duplicate frames. they are usually in clusters of about 3-4 frames (duplicate) and then 5-8 good frames, then duplicates, then good, rinse, wash, repeat....

The same MLV's convert to DNG with no problems in 1.1.5.

I was not using any lookup tables, only vertical line correction

The super-sucky part of this story is that I typically delete my MLV's after I convert them to dng.  The only way i will be able to save our production footage from two days ago is to interpolate all the missing frames....

Could have been worse. At least I caught this problem before I deleted my MLV's from yesterday....

I know better than to upgrade in the middle of a project.... The LUT's were so tempting though... couldn't resist.

Your recent improvements look very promising. I'll check back in a month or two to see if this has been resolved.  Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 10, 2014, 08:45:51 PM
Quote from: dpjpandone on September 10, 2014, 07:32:09 PM
The DNG sequences that were exported with 1.2.3 contain several duplicate frames. they are usually in clusters of about 3-4 frames (duplicate) and then 5-8 good frames, then duplicates, then good, rinse, wash, repeat....

Oh no, that sounds really bad!  :-(

Has anyone else seen a similar problem on Windows?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dpjpandone on September 10, 2014, 08:53:32 PM
dont panic, could be my fault... who knows what caused the problem. I'll upload some clips for you later.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dpjpandone on September 11, 2014, 12:05:15 AM
Here are some dng's:

http://www.filedropper.com/m08-1807dng000001

-I can reproduce this
-My graphics card in intel HD 4600
-PC it happened on is intel core5 8 gb ram, Win 7, based on asus motherboard, I wish i could give you complete specs, I'll try to reproduce it on my laptop as well to rule out  hardware.



Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dpjpandone on September 11, 2014, 03:13:13 PM
here is an .MRX file, and the log from user/mlrawviewer: http://www.filedropper.com/mlrawviewdiagnostics

I have confirmed that this problem does not happen with MLRawViewer 1.1.5 (another app) so it is my opinion that the MLV's are fine.

After reviewing the above attachment, please let me know if you require an MLV file, (I'll have to shoot a short take that will be easy to upload)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 11, 2014, 04:45:41 PM
Quote from: dpjpandone on September 11, 2014, 03:13:13 PM
here is an .MRX file, and the log from user/mlrawviewer: http://www.filedropper.com/mlrawviewdiagnostics

I have confirmed that this problem does not happen with MLRawViewer 1.1.5 (another app) so it is my opinion that the MLV's are fine.

After reviewing the above attachment, please let me know if you require an MLV file, (I'll have to shoot a short take that will be easy to upload)

Thanks for that. There was nothing obviously wrong in the log or the clip MRX file. So I'm suspecting now this is some GPU related issue.

Can you try exporting with the stripe correction turned off? Then the GPU is not involved in the DNG export process. If that works, it is most likely a GPU issue.

In that case, I suggest you try to update to the latest Intel graphics drivers you can find and see if that helps or fixes the problem - it has made a difference with some other recent Intel GPU problems on Windows.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tomekk on September 13, 2014, 11:05:19 PM
I've just started using this program. Is there a way to copy WB settings after I adjust them in the program? For example I set WB in one clip and want to apply it to the rest of the footage. How do you guys do it?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 13, 2014, 11:19:05 PM
H/G - Save/load current colour balance & brightness (for matching multiple takes)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tomekk on September 13, 2014, 11:29:34 PM
Thx!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 13, 2014, 11:40:49 PM
there is a readme file within the app, just check all the shortcuts there.  :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: naokileesw on September 15, 2014, 01:16:36 PM
Hi all! Posting for the first time here.

MlRawViewer is definitely what I've been looking for and the easiest software I've come across for processing RAW video files. I just have a question on the exported files and hopefully someone could guide me to the right direction.

I'm using:
MlRawViewer 1.2.3
Mac OS 10.9.4 -New Mac Pro
MLV files from EOS M

Everything looks great in the MlRawViewer. The "pink dot" is gone and everything looks smooth. Even footage that's been squeezed looks wonderful. But when I export the files to either DNG or MOV, they all look exactly like the original files, pink dots and squeezed and all. Exposure and color change are exported correctly, but.... Have I miss something?

Any help will be great!! I've been using ML for only about two months, but this has been the BEST!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Metsadah on September 15, 2014, 04:17:14 PM
For me this app would be perfect if it came with a more standard decent UI. Where I could transcode a bunch of MLV's directly to prores based on one whitebalance correction etc.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on September 16, 2014, 01:37:38 AM
It seems to not handle squeezed footage properly yet, but that's just my observation.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on September 17, 2014, 05:12:35 AM
I'm getting pink/magenta highlights on 50D footage. Is this an MLRawViewer issue or more likely a 50D black level issue? I'm also curious, would a highlight recovery tool, like the one in ACR, be at all possible?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on September 17, 2014, 11:31:42 AM

I have got that problem in my highlights to (7D). But i just see it on the MlRawViewer, after render and open the dng's files is not there.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: naokileesw on September 17, 2014, 04:16:44 PM
Maybe it's an EOS M thing. But I have the opposite thing happening. I can make the dots go away in MLRawViewer, but comes back when I render them out in either MOV/DNG.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 17, 2014, 06:20:28 PM
Quote from: naokileesw on September 17, 2014, 04:16:44 PM
Maybe it's an EOS M thing. But I have the opposite thing happening. I can make the dots go away in MLRawViewer, but comes back when I render them out in either MOV/DNG.

Pink dot removing is not a very mature feature, it shouldn't behave the way you are seeing.

Some questions:
1. Do you have the stripe removing turned on - there should be an icon with vertical stripes and an X through it. If there's no X, click to enable it otherwise no there is pink dot removal in use.

2. If the X is on, do you see the dots when paused, or if you click the quality icon or press Q to enable CPU demosaicing? That's the same mode used for exporting.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 17, 2014, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: kyrobb on September 16, 2014, 01:37:38 AM
It seems to not handle squeezed footage properly yet, but that's just my observation.

ATM it's only for viewing. I don't have a good way to do anything sensible in export that would be non-destructive.

Quote from: kyrobb on September 17, 2014, 05:12:35 AM
I'm getting pink/magenta highlights on 50D footage. Is this an MLRawViewer issue or more likely a 50D black level issue? I'm also curious, would a highlight recovery tool, like the one in ACR, be at all possible?

It is doing some highlight recovery (apart from when exporting DNGs), it's just not very advanced.

Is this with playback only, DNG or MOV export, or all?

Can you provide me one sample DNG?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on September 18, 2014, 05:15:46 AM
Looks like the pink is showing up around the edges of clipped areas, in MlRawViewer Playback, as well as both exported DNGs and MOVs. Should I send you a DNG?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: felbingerfilms on September 19, 2014, 04:01:55 PM
Hello,

I have used MlRawViewer for a few months to convert my raw video files.

The program itself work great, but i was wondering if there is any way to record ProRes straight in the camera (5D3).

I have seen that MlRawViewer used ffmpeg as a sort of open source ProRes codec.

The BMPCC records prores and raw on board, and i am wondering if there is a way to have the 5d (or other cameras) do the same.

Would it be feasible to use the ffmpeg open source codec to do this?

Thanks,
Tim
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on September 19, 2014, 08:39:32 PM
For realtime video encoding, codecs must be implemented in hardware. If it was as simple as putting ffmpeg on the camera, somebody would have done it a long time ago.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: felbingerfilms on September 20, 2014, 03:17:05 PM
 
Quote from: dmilligan on September 19, 2014, 08:39:32 PM
For realtime video encoding, codecs must be implemented in hardware. If it was as simple as putting ffmpeg on the camera, somebody would have done it a long time ago.

What do mean with implemented into hardware?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on September 20, 2014, 05:16:00 PM
The CPU is too slow and generalized to be able to handle the processing load required of encoding or decoding video streams in realtime. To implement encoders then, there must be specialized hardware available that does the encoding that is optimized for the particular task (sort of like how your computer has a GPU which is specialized hardware to do graphics rendering, the CPU would be too slow to do this). Almost all embedded devices use specialized hardware to do any particular processing intensive tasks that they have to do, and the CPU itself is just sort of a supervisor. This is exactly how your camera is, almost all of the image processing is done in specialized hardware.  There is specialized hardware in the camera for h246 and jpeg, (and other things like demosaicing, curves, pic styles, etc), but there is no hardware to encode "ProRes" or any other video codec. So your only options for video encoding are the built-in ones or no processing at all (raw).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: senzazn12 on September 20, 2014, 11:05:05 PM
Is there a way you can implement some highlight recovery or shadow lift in MLVRAWVIEWER? Wonder what some of you all are doing for highlight recovery/shadows when using this tool since I'm used to ACR.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on September 21, 2014, 02:09:58 AM
It's already doing some highlight recovery, and you can lift shadows with the built in Log LUTs.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: naokileesw on September 21, 2014, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: baldand on September 17, 2014, 06:20:28 PM
Pink dot removing is not a very mature feature, it shouldn't behave the way you are seeing.

Some questions:
1. Do you have the stripe removing turned on - there should be an icon with vertical stripes and an X through it. If there's no X, click to enable it otherwise no there is pink dot removal in use.

2. If the X is on, do you see the dots when paused, or if you click the quality icon or press Q to enable CPU demosaicing? That's the same mode used for exporting.

Hey baldand,

Yes, the vertical stripes have an X through it and everything looks fine within the viewer, no dots at all. The dots are never visible when X is on, even when I pause or enable/disable CPU de-mosacing. It's just really strange... I understand it should be exporting how I see it within the viewer and everything is fine except for the dots...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dfgh on September 24, 2014, 01:15:49 PM
Hey,

when exporting from mlrawviewer the program will get so far and then freeze and I have to manually quit the program. It's only just started doing this. Any ideas (other than "reinstalling" the program i.e unzipping and replacing because I've tried that) It does this about about 8 out of ten attempts. If I keep trying it I will eventually get an export after many failings of the same raw at varying export percentages.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: aace on September 24, 2014, 03:14:44 PM
Quote from: dfgh on September 24, 2014, 01:15:49 PM
Hey,

when exporting from mlrawviewer the program will get so far and then freeze and I have to manually quit the program. It's only just started doing this. Any ideas (other than "reinstalling" the program i.e unzipping and replacing because I've tried that) It does this about about 8 out of ten attempts. If I keep trying it I will eventually get an export after many failings of the same raw at varying export percentages.

I have the same issues. It seems to occur when I leave my laptop running and come back to it after a while of converting. The only thing that seems to resolve this issue for me is to come back to my laptop periodically and keep my hard drive spinning. Not sure if this will help you but it might.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 24, 2014, 03:24:42 PM
@aace, @dfgh

Thanks for the reports. More info that could help:

- Mac or Windows? OS version?
- What GPU? RAM? SSD or HD?
- Log file. Look for the (hidden) ".mlrawviewer" directory in your user home directory. Within that should be an "mlrawviwer.log" file. Please send it to me.

Thanks in advance, and sorry about the troubles!

[edit] Oh, and after finding the log file and sending it to me, you can try deleting or renaming the whole ".mlrawviewer" folder. That should set the program back as if it had just been installed freshly.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 24, 2014, 04:54:53 PM
Update on next MlRawViewer version

I've been working on a few things for the next version of MlRawViewer, due as a binary 1.3.0 release "soon". I just wanted to give a little heads about what's coming (no surprises if you've been following my tweets):

- Some new curves, SLog, SLog2, Log-C & C-Log contributed by @ToS_Maverick
- Live RGB histogram while playing
- Improved CDNG playback support: 12bit DNGs, compressed DNGs (should work with Odyssey7Q & BMPCC CDNGs)
- Compressed DNG exporting, possibly including 12bit+linearisation "near lossless" mode.

I know lots of people have probably moved onto using MLVFS for their DNG conversion needs by now, but perhaps a few of you will still find these features of some use.

After the 1.3.x release series stabilises (might take a few updates), I will probably take a break from working on any major new features for MlRawViewer, and instead look at some different things. Since there are no other primary contributors to the project right now, I expect there will only be bug fix releases for a while.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on September 24, 2014, 05:30:12 PM
Andrew, that is some really fine new features. I, and I think a lot of people use this app a lot. For me, working with raw format this is the only app I use. Mlvfs is for mlv files for now. All log conversions dng, to mov etc are phenomenal in mlrawviewer. The speed and flexibility is amazing. Your work on this is beautiful.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 24, 2014, 05:42:36 PM
Hello baland!
Great to see a new update of the greatest mlv player/converter available.
I dont think that many people switched to another player (mlvfs) cause there are some drawbacks like:
no strip correction yet, or
no hot pixel or
no chroma smoothing, ect.

Your player is the best - because of
In out points,
Multiple files conversion,
Lut support
Preview funcion
And so on...

If you decide to switch to other projects i wish you all the best.
All in all It is bad that no more contributors jumped in the boat lately.
I would contribute:
- Ofx support or some kind of noise reduction ;)
- A window (not windows ;)) based browser
- Retina display support (macbook pro) of the browser window and the mlvrv environment (icons ect)

sadly i am just a user with no code skills
Perhaps other well skilled guys have some spare time to bring it to the next level. To be honest, i hardly believe that others could do that except you ;)

Best wishes swinxx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Frank7D on September 24, 2014, 06:45:12 PM
Just want to say that I use MLVFS, but mlrawviewer is still my go-to program for quick review of footage.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: KurtAugust on September 24, 2014, 09:34:47 PM
Baldand,
Thank you for developing this. But I really don't think mlrawviewer is any bit less cool than mlvs and I hope you will still feel like updating it once in a while.
Every tool has its place!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on September 24, 2014, 10:26:13 PM

+1

Great tool =) 
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldavenger on September 24, 2014, 11:35:48 PM
MLRawViewer is still my go to app for previewing and conversions.  It's a beautiful piece of software, and has enhanced the workflow process of ML Raw immensely.  I remember way back before we had Resolve 11 and MLRawViewer.  Dark times indeed.

Hats off to you sir for your brilliant work.  You thoroughly deserve all the plaudits and accolades rightfully coming your way.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dxotic on September 24, 2014, 11:49:02 PM
+10

MLRawViewer is an amazing piece of software. I have watched it's steady and rapid progression and am grateful for all the hard work and diligence. It is a great time saver and its abilities are beyond what others can do and hope that you are not discouraged and  and many others will still be using it for the foreseeable future. Thank You!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on September 25, 2014, 04:27:40 AM
I had a problem. The software stuck in OSX - not play, not export. I deleted and install again. Not working.
I think I have to delete from other part in the system and I don't know where.

Before the problem I add a lot of files form CF card - by USB3.

Any help?

THanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 25, 2014, 05:24:10 AM
Look for the hidden ".mlrawviewer" folder inside your user home folder. There are some persistant settings in there. Try renaming the folder. If that helps, please send the files from folder to me so I can diagnose the cause.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 25, 2014, 07:52:37 AM
hi baland!

i have a question

is it possilbe to view and extract a damaged mlv file because of a full card?
i have turned the option "reserved space" on in mlv menu but my card got full during recording and now i have a damaged file (structure with many files m00, m01,... m08) and would love to save that shot - i was on the road and wanted to quick check the shot, but mlrawviewer was not able to play it back..

here is a quick screenshot of the folder structure..
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rutp0ft58vq1bc5/Screenshot%202014-09-25%2007.53.00.png?dl=0

thx.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dpujolcosta on September 25, 2014, 10:08:30 AM
Hello Baldand

Great job, congratulations

+1
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on September 25, 2014, 10:43:59 AM
@baldand

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqe5bkhnbtjxdpm/.mlrawviewerproblems.zip?dl=0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Frank7D on September 25, 2014, 05:12:51 PM
@swinxx

Are you sure the file is damaged?
Have you read this?
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12466.msg120237#msg120237 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12466.msg120237#msg120237)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on September 25, 2014, 09:05:54 PM
Do you plan to include ProRes 422 export in 1.3? ProRes4444 is great, but it's hard to justify the file size when the cameras themselves are only shooting 422 anyway.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 25, 2014, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: kyrobb on September 25, 2014, 09:05:54 PM
Do you plan to include ProRes 422 export in 1.3? ProRes4444 is great, but it's hard to justify the file size when the cameras themselves are only shooting 422 anyway.

I may include a 422 profile in 1.3. I think you are a bit misunderstanding though regarding "..cameras themselves are only shooting 422 anyway". Raw video is the bayer data straight from the sensor. It's neither (demosaiced) RGB or YUV, hence you can't really call it 422 or 444.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pc_bel on September 26, 2014, 10:26:14 AM
Hi baldand,
Working with your aplication for a long time. Now I have a strange problem. Installed version 1.2.3 and when I open the aplication I can't see de red dot. It plays mlv files ok. But doesn't export nothing. If I press W and choose a directory, when I press E in mov option, nothing happen. If I'm in dng option it creates the folder but doesn't export nothing inside. I don't know if anybody has the same problem. Can you help me please?.
Thanks a lot.

Log document says this:

MlRawViewer v1.2.3
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013-2014
Using GLFW
Creating default 1D LUTs
[]
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\ExportQueue", line 376, in doExportDng
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\ExportQueue", line 420, in processExportDng
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\ExportQueue", line 348, in tempEncoderWav
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\wave", line 502, in open
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\wave", line 163, in __init__
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\wave", line 128, in initfp
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\chunk", line 63, in __init__
EOFError
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 26, 2014, 11:21:25 AM
The red dot is removed but feature is there. Try pressing Y after starting the export to see if processing starts. Y pauses/ resumes
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dfgh on September 26, 2014, 01:17:05 PM
I'm using windows 7 on PC and currently using the very same program ( in the same location ) on a networked computer with absolutely no problems. I have also noticed on that machine that the Jumplists in taskbar for explorer have stopped working, which roughly happened at the same time, whether these two are related I'll leave for you to decided. I haven't updated or anything like that as I leave my editing machines off the internet.

CPU Intel  i7 4930k
Nvidia GF670
SATA III Seagate Drives (none SSD )
RAM 32GB 1866mhz ( I think that's the speed anyway ) Quad Channel
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pc_bel on September 26, 2014, 03:11:15 PM
Quote
The red dot is removed but feature is there. Try pressing Y after starting the export to see if processing starts. Y pauses/ resumes

Thanks for your answer. Still doesn't work. Now I'm using magiclantern-Nightly.2014Sep01.5D3113 and trying the conversion with old mlvs (from older nightlys) it works!!!!, so is something related to this nightly build, maybe?...

I will try to update my nightly build and will report if problem persist or not.

Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pc_bel on September 26, 2014, 03:50:37 PM
Nightly updated to 2014Sept12.5D3113 and works good!!!! Mlrawviewer works as it is supposed to do it.

So something related to the nightly or to my installation. Allways is better to think before act...

Anyway, baldand, thanks for the fast answer and for the excellent software too...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on September 27, 2014, 03:08:12 AM
Hey,

I could use some help with importing LUT's.

I press shift+L and choose a LUT, but it is not working. These luts are 3D, but I cant get them to work with MLRawViewer. I press shift+up/down and nothing happens. If I go through the 1D luts (left/right) I only find the ones included from MLrawviewer. Thinking maybe they were interpreted as 1D luts.

Do the .cube files have to be in a specific location?

Or is there something else I am doing wrong?

Thank you.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 27, 2014, 10:16:33 AM
Quote from: Kharak on September 27, 2014, 03:08:12 AM
Hey,

I could use some help with importing LUT's.

I press shift+L and choose a LUT, but it is not working. These luts are 3D, but I cant get them to work with MLRawViewer. I press shift+up/down and nothing happens. If I go through the 1D luts (left/right) I only find the ones included from MLrawviewer. Thinking maybe they were interpreted as 1D luts.

Do the .cube files have to be in a specific location?

Or is there something else I am doing wrong?

Thank you.


If you are on windows, you need to apply the patch file on bitbucket to make LUT importing work. Will be fixed in 1.3
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: senzazn12 on September 27, 2014, 02:12:28 PM
When will 1.3 be up? Thanks for this great tool!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 27, 2014, 04:08:01 PM
Quote from: senzazn12 on September 27, 2014, 02:12:28 PM
When will 1.3 be up?

It's not ready yet, but as soon as it is, I will make a binary of it.  You can follow progress in more detail on bitbucket: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/commits/all (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/commits/all)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on September 27, 2014, 08:12:41 PM
Quote from: baldand on September 27, 2014, 10:16:33 AM
If you are on windows, you need to apply the patch file on bitbucket to make LUT importing work. Will be fixed in 1.3

Yes, thank you. That did the trick!

Should have mentioned I was on Windows.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: senzazn12 on September 28, 2014, 05:11:10 AM
Awesome. You think you can implement a tool for dual iso DNG processing of MLV clips shot with dual iso?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 28, 2014, 09:58:46 AM
@sanzasn12: dualiso implementation would be superhandy, with the "-same level option on" for flickerfree dngs :)
greets.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: senzazn12 on September 28, 2014, 02:18:27 PM
Quote from: swinxx on September 28, 2014, 09:58:46 AM
@sanzasn12: dualiso implementation would be superhandy, with the "-same level option on" for flickerfree dngs :)
greets.

It would. The MLV 1.9.2 convert program is great but it is not using the the current cr2hdr20bit same levels algo. I tried to replace the old cr2hdr.exe with the cr2hdr20bit.exe in the tools folder of program but it didn't work.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: spnsir on September 30, 2014, 02:29:06 AM
Is there a plan to get audio sync in Resolve working?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 30, 2014, 07:17:11 AM
Quote from: spnsir on September 30, 2014, 02:29:06 AM
Is there a plan to get audio sync in Resolve working?

At the moment I don't know how to do that
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 30, 2014, 11:51:02 AM
i have made an feature request of that davinci resolve audio sync demand. :) rawmagic can do this, perhaps there is a spec somewhere..?


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: spnsir on September 30, 2014, 05:12:25 PM
chmee has it in raw2cdng as well... rawmagic and cdng do it in different ways (rawmagic automatically creates sequences that have audio linked in resolve... raw2cdng you have to select all the audio and append it to the video files by timecode). I know in the raw2cdng thread they discuss implementation of audio syncing for beta 3.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 30, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
MlRawViewer 1.3.0 available for testing


1.3.0 is now available to try in the usual place.

Since there a few larger under-the-hood changes in this one, I gave it a new minor version number. As this is the first release in that series, you should expect to encounter some new bugs. I would appreciate it if you can take the time to report any *new* problems you find with clear instructions for reproducing & log files where possible, either here or to the bitbucket issues list.

Main features:

Features that did NOT make it in yet:
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 30, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
whow, i think i was the first one who downloaded it.

thank you for your hard work baland! you are great!

however, the program is not working for me,
i have copied it onto my desktop (mac 10.9.5) and started it with a double click, then the window opens where i can choose the file, after choosing the file that window closed, but nothing happend..

i´m sorry to report that, greets. swinxx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 30, 2014, 11:23:23 PM
Log file...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 30, 2014, 11:27:03 PM
ok i am searching the log file, in the meantime, perhaps it has something to do with the idx file which is in the same folder..?
thx.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 30, 2014, 11:31:19 PM
here is the file
https://copy.com/sOIQdyP2VAxJLPRJ

greets. swinxx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on September 30, 2014, 11:41:38 PM
Possibly a path containing Unicode/accented characters? Those are often trouble...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 30, 2014, 11:42:49 PM
ah, it was an mld directory in the same directory path. i deleted it (it was empty) and now it works..
greets.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on September 30, 2014, 11:47:01 PM
second problem is that i can not load any 3d luts? they are not previewed.. 1d luts are previewed..
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Andy600 on October 01, 2014, 02:02:57 AM
@swinxx - which 3D luts are you trying to use?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 01, 2014, 06:35:01 AM
Quote from: swinxx on September 30, 2014, 11:47:01 PM
second problem is that i can not load any 3d luts? they are not previewed.. 1d luts are previewed..

Are you seeing a regression here? Were you using 3D LUTs with v1.2.3 without problems?
I don't understand the "previewed" description. You import the LUT, then it is available for use - Shift UP/Shift DOWN steps through 3D LUTs. Do you mean that the list stays empty?

Anything in the log file when you do the import?

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 01, 2014, 08:50:20 AM
yes, the list stays empty - no luts available although i imported them.. :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 01, 2014, 10:04:23 AM
Hi Baldand. Gonna try the latest asap.

"DualISO (this will probably never happen)"

It would be interesting to simply have your awesome app being able to convert dual iso dng to a specific location. This would would give us raw, mlv and dual iso conversion, all in one app. Maybe there could be a specific button pointing to cr2dhr when wanting dual iso exports? Maybe this will confuse things with the app and I am totally fine with all that has been done already if you decide not implement it. 
Thank you.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 01, 2014, 08:31:16 PM
Quote from: swinxx on October 01, 2014, 08:50:20 AM
yes, the list stays empty - no luts available although i imported them.. :)

Thanks! I've found and fixed the bug (in git) now. Fix will be in 1.3.1
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 01, 2014, 09:26:56 PM
Thank you baland! You are top notch!
Is it possible to download that fixed version anywhere? Cause I have no idea how to compile it ;(
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 01, 2014, 10:21:34 PM
Quote from: swinxx on October 01, 2014, 09:26:56 PM
Thank you baland! You are top notch!
Is it possible to download that fixed version anywhere? Cause I have no idea how to compile it ;(

Yes. I uploaded 1.3.1 to the usual place with the LUT import fix for Mac and Win.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 01, 2014, 10:43:19 PM
great, i will try it.
thank you
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 02, 2014, 07:45:24 AM
Gotta start working with the mlrawviewer and prores a bit more. I first did this dual iso sequence in after effects and acr and the time consuming workflow is such a tragedy compared to mlrawviewer.
This is a quick edit from the files coming from mlrawviewever.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on October 02, 2014, 09:27:38 AM
@Baldandt
two questions

1) Can you give brief explanation - or link - about quality for the item "Exported DNGs are now losslessly compressed. This makes them roughly 50% of the old uncompressed 16bit DNGs"

2) Wich is the usual place to download - I tried the first link in the post, but is the 1.2.3

THK!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 02, 2014, 09:36:49 AM
Download page is at: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads)

The DNG specification includes a compressed mode which uses Lossless JPEG (1992) to compress the image. This can handle any number of bits up to 16bit with no data loss, and in our case of 14bit images, it typically results in files about 50% the size of uncompressed 16bit DNGs containing the same information.

The compression ratio will be worse with noisier images, and better with clean or blurry images.

Let me know if you encounter any problems.

(The lossless JPEG code is all new - it may have bugs. I do not recommend yet archiving these DNGs and deleting the source MLV files)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 02, 2014, 08:39:58 PM
Hello Baland..
I have a question:
If i run mlrawviewer on mac, laptop 13inch with iris gpu, is it working as expected? I have noticed some heavy banding within the preview today, but have not converted the files to dng yet. But it makes no difference when turning vert stripe corr on/off...
So i thought that it could be the problem of thr iris gpu.
Thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: senzazn12 on October 02, 2014, 09:01:16 PM

Quote from: Danne on October 02, 2014, 07:45:24 AM
Gotta start working with the mlrawviewer and prores a bit more. I first did this dual iso sequence in after effects and acr and the time consuming workflow is such a tragedy compared to mlrawviewer.
This is a quick edit from the files coming from mlrawviewever.



So you did this with MLVRAW viewer? How did you did you export to prores with the dual iso files? Would't the file still be interlaced?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 02, 2014, 09:05:47 PM
First export to dng with mlrawviwer than conversion with cr2hdr20bit binary then back to mlrawviewer setting ins and outs exporting s-log prores. Works really good.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 02, 2014, 09:20:22 PM
another observation:
with the new version the playback of the files is stuttering. (it is the first version where this happens) it is not possible to play back the files smooth.
with an older version it works as expected.

greets.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 02, 2014, 09:27:03 PM
@swinxx re stripes you should try with 1.2.3 also to see if it looks the same there. re the performance, is that only on the Macbook with Intel, or is it also slow on something with a discrete GPU?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 02, 2014, 10:24:11 PM
hello baland

i have tested, and it sadly doesn´t work!
here i uploaded one dng - converted with mlrawviewer, and one with mlvfs (which is working as far as i can see)
https://copy.com/Rxmwj8VD10hKcrNz
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 02, 2014, 10:34:58 PM
Couldn't really see the problem with those samples. But if MLVFS is working that's great :-)

(MlRawViewer stripe correction is more tuned for 7D stripes than 5d3)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 02, 2014, 10:42:46 PM
hi baland,

dont get me wrong.. i have checked it again and you are right. it is cancelling vertical stripes when turned on. but when i look deeper, i can see the stripes. i will mark one area within the next upload here:mlvs is different, there are no stripes no matter how exactly i try to check it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: optik on October 03, 2014, 07:38:17 AM
 How do i make this happen on 10.9.5?  post#914
Can't seem to find file at all i really need to delete some LUT is making MlRawViewer Super slow to load?
Short explanation or link would be awesome. Loving this app Great job

Can't find how to remove imported LUTs on Mac? I'm imported too many, and now try to remove some of them.

You have to go to the hidden ".mlrawviewer" folder in your home folder and delete the lut3d file. This will purge all 3D LUTs.
There is no way at the moment to remove individual ones, just the whole bunch! :-[
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 03, 2014, 10:54:43 AM
@baland:
Would it be possible to include a 5d mk3 tuned vertical stripes correction too? Thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 03, 2014, 02:01:27 PM
Noob questions. Why the dng obteined with rawmagiclite are brighter? Someone has tried the new compressed dng? Are there some serious quality loss when playing with colours?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 03, 2014, 02:02:45 PM
Quote from: swinxx on October 03, 2014, 10:54:43 AM
@baland:
Would it be possible to include a 5d mk3 tuned vertical stripes correction too? Thx

It's quite unlikely at this point.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 03, 2014, 02:03:53 PM
Quote from: togg on October 03, 2014, 02:01:27 PM
Noob questions. Why the dng obteined with rawmagiclite are brighter? Someone has tried the new compressed dng? Are there some serious quality loss when playing with colours?

Can't comment on the brightness.

The compression is lossless. There is no quality loss.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 03, 2014, 02:13:45 PM
@ baland:
Is the problem lack of time, code complexity or the fact that you dont need it?
Your tool is so great - a must for all owners with ml cams. Never heared that the code must be optimized for a special cam,
So tell us how we can make the unlikely happen? Greets
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 03, 2014, 02:40:21 PM
Quote from: swinxx on October 03, 2014, 02:13:45 PM
@ baland:
Is the problem lack of time, code complexity or the fact that you dont need it?
Your tool is so great - a must for all owners with ml cams. Never heared that the code must be optimized for a special cam,
So tell us how we can make the unlikely happen? Greets

I only have a 7D, so naturally it's optimised for the problems I had on my own camera. The whole tool is designed to "scratch my own itches", and then shared in case it's useful for others.
There are no other primary contributors to the code right now, though I would a welcome anybody with the skills and time to contribute new features.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 03, 2014, 03:17:09 PM
so dear baland,

i can fully understand and it is really great that you share such a great tool with all the others for mac/win/lin world. perhaps a1ex can help here? he has made that correction code.. perhaps we can ask HIM :) if he would help us with this specific optimization?
would that help?
thx.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 03, 2014, 09:13:16 PM
Waa half the size and no quality loss! Great, thanks!
The brightness change is not so important after all, it must be something code related that doesn't impact quality.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 04, 2014, 07:17:45 AM
Hi Andrew.
DNG compression works :). Glad to see this. Will this affect conversion speed?

Playback stuttery now.
creating new folder doesn,t work.

Big thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 04, 2014, 09:31:48 AM
It seems to me that yes, it's slower. But without multithread (that it's difficult to implement if I remember it right) this is the max.
For me the only thing is the hot pixel removal, it seems to not have any effect (watching the dng in resolve), if it would be possible to make it effective it would be really useful.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 04, 2014, 11:28:53 AM
I tracked down the cause of the playback performance regression now and should have a fix out in a couple of days. It was a side effect of changes made to support the histogram.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kakiisch on October 04, 2014, 03:03:29 PM
Hi,

First off, thank you for developing such an awesome RAW workflow enhancer!

I've been playing around with the MlRawViewer for a few days now and everything was incredibly smooth until the last test I did which left me helpless. I was recording my RAW files as per usual and put them on my PC. I fired up MLRV, fiddled with the settings and tried to export the footage (one 20sec file with 50fps and one 25sec file with 25fps). MLRV just creates the .WAV-files to the specified directory for both MLVs (e.g. M04-1508.WAV + M04-1508_00.WAV for one file) and then stops the export at 0.00%.


What to do?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 04, 2014, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: Kakiisch on October 04, 2014, 03:03:29 PM
Hi,

First off, thank you for developing such an awesome RAW workflow enhancer!

I've been playing around with the MlRawViewer for a few days now and everything was incredibly smooth until the last test I did which left me helpless. I was recording my RAW files as per usual and put them on my PC. I fired up MLRV, fiddled with the settings and tried to export the footage (one 20sec file with 50fps and one 25sec file with 25fps). MLRV just creates the .WAV-files to the specified directory for both MLVs (e.g. M04-1508.WAV + M04-1508_00.WAV for one file) and then stops the export at 0.00%.


What to do?

Things to check
1. Check the export directory is valid. Press W and select a folder
2. If export still stays on 0%, press Y in case you have paused the exporting process
3. Find the log file and send to me. Look in your home folder for the hidden ".mlrawviewer" folder, and find mlrawviewer.log inside that.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 04, 2014, 03:49:18 PM
Quote from: togg on October 04, 2014, 09:31:48 AM
It seems to me that yes, it's slower. But without multithread (that it's difficult to implement if I remember it right) this is the max.
For me the only thing is the hot pixel removal, it seems to not have any effect (watching the dng in resolve), if it would be possible to make it effective it would be really useful.

Do you have the stripe correction on (X in the stripes icon)?

If so, and that doesn't work, could you share with me a short sample MLV that shows the problem with hot pixels?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 04, 2014, 05:40:43 PM
Yes I have it. I'm still using RAW for the extra stability and performance, can I send you this? Do you also need the dngs that are created?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 04, 2014, 06:37:56 PM
Quote from: togg on October 04, 2014, 05:40:43 PM
Yes I have it. I'm still using RAW for the extra stability and performance, can I send you this? Do you also need the dngs that are created?

.RAW is fine also, as long as it's more than say 100 frames since bad pixel correction needs a few frames to identify them.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 04, 2014, 06:39:52 PM
1.3.2 now available for testing

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads)

Has everything 1.3.0 and 1.3.1 had, plus a few bug fixes:

- The major performance regression in playback should be resolved
- Compressed DNG export should now be a bit faster on dual core machines
- There was a memory leak with the compressed DNG export, now resolved
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 04, 2014, 07:00:34 PM
Will test it tonight, thank you very much!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 04, 2014, 08:09:43 PM
The new version speed seems back to normal. The problem with the hot pixel removal process is this one: it seems to work in the playback within the app but when I export the dng sequence and open it in Resolve the hot pixels are exactly the same. I don't know if the removal of hot pixels is some additional information put aside the dng or simply changing values but anyway Resolve is not getting it. :(

I'm uploading the raw file into mediafire, it will take 40 more minutes.

edit: I'm sending you the file.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kakiisch on October 05, 2014, 03:33:41 AM
QuoteThings to check
1. Check the export directory is valid. Press W and select a folder
2. If export still stays on 0%, press Y in case you have paused the exporting process
3. Find the log file and send to me. Look in your home folder for the hidden ".mlrawviewer" folder, and find mlrawviewer.log inside that.

The directory was "valid". Basically the issue was that I was, for the first time during all these tests, trying to use MLRV to footage that was on my external hard drive. And this USB3.0 capable HD is only using the not so optimal USB2.0 bottlenecked by my 6 year old motherboard. I'm not too code or tech savvy so the reason why MLRV wasn't able to convert the footage to .MOV is beyond my understanding. At least now I can convert the footage when I use my normal hard drive.

I appreciate your responses here on the forum and the commitment to this exquisite software.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: coryaycock on October 05, 2014, 07:32:19 AM
Hi,

I've upgraded to 1.3.2 and all of my dngs are coming out pink now.  I don't know what it could be. It looks good in the Viewer, but after exporting...all pink.   Am I the only one experiencing this?

Nightly
7D

Modified Menu:
MLV Sound
FPS override 23.976
RAW video (MLV) 1728x972

Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 05, 2014, 07:48:31 AM
Can you provide one pink DNG as a sample?
Is it a pink tint but the image is visible? (That's usually caused by a wrong black level) or just pink?
What program are you using to read the DNGs?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: coryaycock on October 05, 2014, 07:54:05 AM
Hi baldand,

Using Adobe DNG.

I'm sorry, I'm an idiot and don't know how to do add an image to the message. 

The DNG image is half pink and I can't view the image through it.

I'm still a rookie, but it was really simple before, because I would just export from the Viewer, then import in ACR with no hassle.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 05, 2014, 08:07:08 AM
Screenshot or sample DNG please.

Try viewing in another programming to check.

Also try converting with 1.2.3 to verify this is a regression in MlRawViewee
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: coryaycock on October 05, 2014, 08:19:43 AM
Ok, I'll try 1.2.3 and report back.

(Back)

Hmm...1.2.3 works for me.  No pink.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: PhilSouth on October 05, 2014, 08:41:49 AM
Can anyone please help?

Im running windows 8.1 and I cannot get MlRawviewer 1.2.3 working properly. It is probably something that I have done in the set up.
When I go to open the app it will ask for the mlv file to be opened then when I select the file the program opens for a split second then it closes.

So far I downloaded the zip, Unzipped it. Downloaded Python, installed it. (i dont know if I am required to link the programs some how). And shot my first mlv footage. Now I need to convert to DNG some how for use in After effects.

Any Ideas of where I may have gone wrong?

Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 05, 2014, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: PhilSouth on October 05, 2014, 08:41:49 AM
Can anyone please help?

Im running windows 8.1 and I cannot get MlRawviewer 1.2.3 working properly. It is probably something that I have done in the set up.
When I go to open the app it will ask for the mlv file to be opened then when I select the file the program opens for a split second then it closes.

So far I downloaded the zip, Unzipped it. Downloaded Python, installed it. (i dont know if I am required to link the programs some how). And shot my first mlv footage. Now I need to convert to DNG some how for use in After effects.

Any Ideas of where I may have gone wrong?

Thanks.

You need to find the log file from the ".mlrawviewer" dir in your user home dir and share it.

Also, python is not needed. It's included in the binary
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 05, 2014, 09:21:56 AM
Quote from: coryaycock on October 05, 2014, 08:19:43 AM
Ok, I'll try 1.2.3 and report back.

(Back)

Hmm...1.2.3 works for me.  No pink.

Ok, sounds like a regression.

How old is the version of ACR you are using?

At this point you need to give me one of the DNGs to look at to see what is going on.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: PhilSouth on October 05, 2014, 10:35:58 AM
    Can anyone please help?

    Im running windows 8.1 and I cannot get MlRawviewer 1.2.3 working properly. It is probably something that I have done in the set up.
    When I go to open the app it will ask for the mlv file to be opened then when I select the file the program opens for a split second then it closes.

    So far I downloaded the zip, Unzipped it. Downloaded Python, installed it. (i dont know if I am required to link the programs some how). And shot my first mlv footage. Now I need to convert to DNG some how for use in After effects.

    Any Ideas of where I may have gone wrong?

    Thanks.


"You need to find the log file from the ".mlrawviewer" dir in your user home dir and share it.

Also, python is not needed. It's included in the binary"

Ok so i went through and found some share options and messed around with that. Then I right clicked the app and it gave me the option to run with my NVIDIA graphics card and that worked!

thanks for the help
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on October 05, 2014, 11:28:07 AM
Thank you for your efforts Andrew!
cDNG compression works great!

1) I can confirm though, that the exposure is a little different than the RawMagic conversion. Something about 0.4 stops. My RM export needs 1.25 stops adjustment, your DNG export needs 1.65 stops. After that, the result seems to be the same (Color etc.)
2) Somehow RawMagic's cDNG is recognized by Resole on the spot, with MLRV's export I need to enter the directory to access the clip. Any idea why that could be? Some header missing in the dngs?

Let me know if you need further information!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: chmee on October 05, 2014, 01:06:10 PM
TOS_Maverick could you give us so me info (folder/filenaming) and at least one dng and a WAV?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on October 05, 2014, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: chmee on October 05, 2014, 01:06:10 PM
TOS_Maverick could you give us so me info (folder/filenaming) and at least one dng and a WAV?

Here you go:
http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/DNGDiff.zip (http://www.michaelfischer.at/files/DNGDiff.zip)

The RAWMagic variant (C0...) works fine, even only with this one DNG.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: chmee on October 05, 2014, 02:56:50 PM
Thanks, will download it later.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on October 05, 2014, 03:12:40 PM
Quote from: ToS_Maverick on October 05, 2014, 11:28:07 AM
Something about 0.4 stops.
The DNG from RAWMagic has BaselineExposure: +0.40. I'm not sure why. In MLVFS, I put the "raw_info.exposure_bias" here, but I've never really seen it be anything other than zero.

Also the RAWMagic DNG has tag 51081, which is "ReelName" in the spec and it is set to the filename prefix/folder name. Perhaps this is why resolve sees the directory automatically? I'll experiment with this in MLVFS and see what I can find. @chmee, do you use this tag in raw2cdng?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: chmee on October 05, 2014, 07:04:18 PM
@Tos_Maverick. ah, ok, thats nothing especial. for this "media"-behaviour you just need kind of filenaming-convention.

folder: blabla_C0000
dng-file: blabla_C0000_00001.dng
(for example)

thats the reason i built the filenamegenerator into raw2cdng. interesting would be the part with embedded audio, does this work? look here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10861.0) and here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11520.0).

@dmilligan of course :) but it was not the solution for embedded (autosynced) audio.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ToS_Maverick on October 05, 2014, 07:28:45 PM
Quote from: chmee on October 05, 2014, 07:04:18 PM
@Tos_Maverick. ah, ok, thats nothing especial. for this "media"-behaviour you just need kind of filenaming-convention.

folder: blabla_C0000
dng-file: blabla_C0000_00001.dng
(for example)

thats the reason i built the filenamegenerator into raw2cdng. interesting would be the part with embedded audio, does this work? look here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10861.0) and here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11520.0).

Ha, you are right, it works now!
Now it would be great if MLRV does that out of the box ;)

Can't help you with audio, my clips are .RAW (v1) without audio...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on October 05, 2014, 09:42:21 PM
I've noticed that Curves and luts don't properly apply to squished 60p footage when exporting to ProRes. Footage always comes out much darker.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: coryaycock on October 05, 2014, 10:54:28 PM
@baldand

[imghttp://http://(http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg486/7kndp9gc/b103ce34-6e77-46aa-9ef0-3457d5537986_zpsb64551ab.png) (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/7kndp9gc/media/b103ce34-6e77-46aa-9ef0-3457d5537986_zpsb64551ab.png.html)/img]

Using Lightroom 5.6.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 05, 2014, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: kyrobb on October 05, 2014, 09:42:21 PM
I've noticed that Curves and luts don't properly apply to squished 60p footage when exporting to ProRes. Footage always comes out much darker.

Thanks for the report. I'll look into what's going on there
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 05, 2014, 11:33:44 PM
Quote from: coryaycock on October 05, 2014, 10:54:28 PM
@baldand

[imghttp://http://(http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg486/7kndp9gc/b103ce34-6e77-46aa-9ef0-3457d5537986_zpsb64551ab.png) (http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/7kndp9gc/media/b103ce34-6e77-46aa-9ef0-3457d5537986_zpsb64551ab.png.html)/img]

Using Lightroom 5.6.

Thanks. That looks very similar to what OS X Finder shows as preview for the compressed DNGs, also for BMPCC files. I would say it is reading the DNG tiles as if they are uncompressed. No idea why though. I need the DNG....
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on October 06, 2014, 09:37:03 AM
@baldand I read your blog, great explanation!

I understood the idea is to get DNG compressed from RAW and MLVraw
But like you, I have terabytes of DNG and it´s a good idea that MlRawViewer can read DNG exported and compress to a lossless format.

Thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: scatsy on October 06, 2014, 03:21:47 PM
QuoteI've noticed that Curves and luts don't properly apply to squished 60p footage when exporting to ProRes. Footage always comes out much darker.

I have similar problem, but I don't know if i am doing something wrong. I open the MLV, export the DNG and open in DaVinci, and the results are...


(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n29/Scatsy/Capturadepantalla2014-10-06alas150728.png~original)

I Have this problem in 1.3.2 version too
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hdclip on October 06, 2014, 03:59:51 PM
You are exporting DNG and not Prores...the prores whit curve and the dng without...it´s not?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 06, 2014, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: scatsy on October 06, 2014, 03:21:47 PM
I have similar problem, but I don't know if i am doing something wrong. I open the MLV, export the DNG and open in DaVinci, and the results are...


(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n29/Scatsy/Capturadepantalla2014-10-06alas150728.png~original)

I Have this problem in 1.3.2 version too


LUTs are not applied to DNG exporting, only MOV.

DNGs contain all the original raw data so it doesn't make sense to apply a LUT as it would be throwing away info. You can apply LUTs inside Resolve.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: scatsy on October 06, 2014, 04:09:45 PM
Thanks! I was worng then XD
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bluewater on October 07, 2014, 06:58:14 AM
Would it be possible to include noise reduction function or sharpen function ? thanx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 07, 2014, 07:32:52 AM
Quote from: bluewater on October 07, 2014, 06:58:14 AM
Would it be possible to include noise reduction function or sharpen function ? thanx

Those would be possible to do
But I don't currently plan to do them.
Code contributions gratefully accepted.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 07, 2014, 08:32:06 AM
Once again another great update from @baldand -- I'm enjoying MLRawViewer more than ever. If I'm not wrong but it seems to be running more smoothly and doesn't lag as much as it used to do. This is one of the best tools for those who are in tight timing space and need to get ProRes or DNG's ASAP... looking forward to more updates in the near future!

THANKS!

;D

*edit*

Actually I just tried exporting as .MOV and apparently it won't recognize the format via Quicktime nor Premiere Pro as well. Worked fine on 1.2.3 but not for 1.3.2 unless I'm missing something...
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5599/15279991597_199469ba6d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pheX9Z)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3936/15279991447_ef63a93100_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pheX7p)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 07, 2014, 09:34:18 PM
the .mov files came out looking like this... (although I did exported twice just to make sure)




anyone else experiencing the similar issue that I am dealing with?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: simulacro on October 07, 2014, 10:08:01 PM
That's happening also to me... the .mov videos have that strange motion.

I'm working on a 2009 macbook pro with Mountain Lion installed, last program version 1.3.2.
From 15 clips there is one (1.3 gb size .raw -son of batch program exports fine-) that doesn't show in the program interface, only a black screen without any controls...

the others look ok but when I make a batch export the program generates empty folders or with one or two dng's

edit: now after restarting MLRV, the program is generating all the dng's. The behavior creating empty foldres occurred after a .mov batch conversion

Beautiful program, thanks a lot
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: simulacro on October 07, 2014, 10:21:37 PM
Camera raw doesn't recognize the dng's, I'm working in After Effects CS5, Camera Raw  6.0

"Photoshop File Format error 30505"

--

Lightroom 4 shows them beautifully
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: simulacro on October 08, 2014, 01:42:03 AM
There is another issue with the cdng in Adobe Lightroom:

I exported a dng sequence with Son Of Batch. In Lightroom there is an option to choose the camera profile and the VisionLog option works ok with the dng's created with Son of Batch

When I load in Lightroom the cdng's created by MLRV, the program doesn't let you choose the VisionLog option in the Camera Profile (in the Camera Calibration Panel). There is only the option "embedded"
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 08, 2014, 06:47:48 AM
Ok, thanks for the bug reports. I'll try to take a look at them

(It would also be helpful for people to shout if everything is working ok for them with 1.3.2 so I can know what IS working)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 08, 2014, 07:42:28 AM
OSX macbook pro 15 inch 2013 Mavericks

Working
Viewing from raw to mlv files (J,K) working(raw to folders with dng files, not working)
Files plays smooth in mlrawviever
File size smaller, yeey
Files works in ACR adobe CS6
Files works in after effects CS6
Opens up in davinc resolve

Bugs
Going from raw to folders with dng not working
New dng files not readable with older mlrawviewer(1.2.3)
Initially audio would,t attach to the picture when viewing exported dng:s. Now working. Can,t reproduce the problem
Your app don,t like folder named with Ä,Ö,Å :). Makes the app not open.

Gotta go to work, more test later on...
Thanks for everything.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 08, 2014, 06:20:05 PM
Hello @Baldand -- I did some more testing today with 1.3.2...

OSX Macbook Pro 15 inch 2006 10.9.5

I think what caused the weird focus movements from my previous video was caused by Exporting All Files with Current Settings (Press C) and then I tried another test whereas I just export as a single file (same video below) which came out just fine... could this be a bug?

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: simulacro on October 08, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
the batch conversion is doing some weird stuff on my vids:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIo6WKJvwSU&feature=youtu.be

apart from the funky motion, this is a clip untouched from the conversion. What it means its that the program is joining in one clip the end of one clip and the beginning of the next. There are also those strange colors that sometimes are red dots all over the place
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hateom on October 09, 2014, 04:40:53 PM
My issues (tested on Mavericks OS X, iMac & MacBook Pro):

1. Mouse cursor disappearing in the window region (fullscreen on and then off fixes the problem)
2. Open File Dialog opens in the background, and I need to move the main window to see it
3. Destination directory dialog opens in background as well, plus all the key actions go the the main window instead of the save dialog (cannot create new directory in it, etc)

Other than that I love this app. I use it extensively. Thanks for your efforts!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on October 10, 2014, 01:13:15 AM
Hi

I've been having trouble doing batch conversion on a Windows 7 x64.

Using MLRawViewer 1.3.2.

After opening the first .mlv as usual and setting up the export settings, I then hit c to add the rest of the MLVs into the queue and it will start normally. But once it's done converting the first MLV, it will open the second MLV and jumps to this 188.80%  like so: http://imgur.com/McuVy40 and crash.

Here's the program detail from the crash window:

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
  Application Name: mlrawviewer.exe
  Application Version: 0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp: 514e2c2f
  Fault Module Name: bitunpack.pyd
  Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
  Fault Module Timestamp: 543016a3
  Exception Code: c0000005
  Exception Offset: 00001347
  OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1


I've been getting this same error in 1.2.3 version too.

Any ideas?

Also: I can't seem to associate the MLV to MLRawViewer anymore so that I can just double click the MLV and have it open in MLRawViewer. It used to work on 1.2.3 but not anymore.

EDIT: Btw, what is the key to remove a clip from the export queue?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 10, 2014, 08:50:59 AM
Did some more testings with DNG's exports and yet they are both still showing the pink frames. Anyone experiencing the same issue with MlRawViewer 1.3.2 on a Mac running 10.9.5?

5D3
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3932/15306697439_14251cf4d5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pjAPSx)

EOS-M
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3949/15470475596_31e2313c57_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pz5epS)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 10, 2014, 09:12:32 AM
For those who are curious... I decided to put together a rough cut of all of each .MOV export as batch (Press C) from MlRawViewer 1.3.2 and then export it as a quicktime format from Premiere Pro just so you all know what it looks like when we export as a batch as oppose to single file by file within the amazing program in mlrawviewer and all the thanks goes to @baldand!

This was all shot in RAW 1080p 24fps (along with a several 3x crop mode shots) with nightly build from Sept 27th.



p.s. Not sure why the footage turn out cropped in the last few clips towards the end of this video. Perhaps I had them in crop mode and forgot to stretch it out? But again I thought if we shoot in 3x crop mode which should still come out 1080p regardless. Weird?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 10, 2014, 08:28:47 PM
@DeafEyeJedi  I have now managed to reproduce the corrupt MOVs when exporting all with the C key. Hopefully this enables me to find the cause of the problem and fix. For now I recommend not using C key in 1.3.x

Regarding the pink frames in the Mac DNG Preview - that is a known issue with MacOS - it cannot correctly show DNGs that use lossless compression (instead you just see that kind of corrupt pink image chopped down the middle). As far as I know, all full DNG handling programs (e.g. Adobe ACR, Resolve, anything based on dcraw) should handle compressed DNGs without problems.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 10, 2014, 11:59:49 PM
@baland
one question,
does the mlrawviewer has a bad pixel detection implemented for converting mlv to dng?
i had a problem with bad pixels in some mlv shots (with mlrawviewer and mlvfs) and they are still there after conversion.
dmilligan just told me that he had to adjust the threshold of that algo, perhaps this would also be useful for the mlrawviewer?
hope that a1ex and you are implementing a tuned 5d mk3 vertical stripes correction soon too :)
thank you very much. greets. swinxx.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on October 11, 2014, 12:28:32 AM
Was thinking that a built in Pink Dot Remover tool for 650D and 700D could be very useful in future versions, if at all possible.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 12, 2014, 05:27:05 AM
@baldand -- Thanks for the clarification on that part with the DNG's exports regarding Mac's. However, Once I tried to uninstall 1.3.2 and install 1.2.3 and now whenever I try to run it... nothing pops up like as if I didn't install it properly but I know I did.

Thoughts?

I completely uninstalled with CleanMyMac 2. Not sure if that actually gets the job done?

Thanks again!

**This is what is happening every time I open the app to try and run it...
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3938/15510997385_d31e31ba46_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/pCDV8p)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: anandkamal on October 12, 2014, 11:30:29 AM
Hi friends, Does MLRawviewer 1.2.3 or any version change the .mlv file characteristics (permanently)? Because the pink horizontal line problem that I am facing for a couple of months now seems to arise after being played in MLRawviewer. That pink strand is present in cdng extracts too and also seen in rendered output from editing or color correction software. The same file I had as a backup in another folder, when played for the first time in MLRawviewer did not show the pink lines. This is not always true as I also see pink lines in some first time opened mlv footage too. I use mlrawviewer a lot as i see 50-100 footage as rushes daily.

So just wanted to know if the viewer changes the characteristics of mlv file permanently. I am using april 2014 build ML, MLrawviewer1.2.3 and raw2cdng 1.6.1.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 12, 2014, 12:26:48 PM
Quote from: anandkamal on October 12, 2014, 11:30:29 AM
Hi friends, Does MLRawviewer 1.2.3 or any version change the .mlv file characteristics (permanently)? Because the pink horizontal line problem that I am facing for a couple of months now seems to arise after being played in MLRawviewer. That pink strand is present in cdng extracts too and also seen in rendered output from editing or color correction software. The same file I had as a backup in another folder, when played for the first time in MLRawviewer did not show the pink lines. This is not always true as I also see pink lines in some first time opened mlv footage too. I use mlrawviewer a lot as i see 50-100 footage as rushes daily.

So just wanted to know if the viewer changes the characteristics of mlv file permanently. I am using april 2014 build ML, MLrawviewer1.2.3 and raw2cdng 1.6.1.

No. MlRawViewer opens all source files in read-only mode and does no write operations on the MLV files. Per-clip settings are saved into a separate ".MRX" file alongside the source file.

If you are not using MlRawViewer for the CDNG conversion, then it's safe to say it has nothing to do with the problem you are seeing.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 12, 2014, 12:46:35 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on October 12, 2014, 05:27:05 AM
@baldand -- Thanks for the clarification on that part with the DNG's exports regarding Mac's. However, Once I tried to uninstall 1.3.2 and install 1.2.3 and now whenever I try to run it... nothing pops up like as if I didn't install it properly but I know I did.

Thoughts?

Find the hidden ".mlrawviewer" folder in your home directory (it's probably easiest with the command line). Send me the "mlrawviewer.log" file in there to see if the cause of the problem can be diagnosed.

Then delete the contents of the folder, and everything should work ok again.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on October 12, 2014, 01:37:19 PM

Hi,

Long time didn't  tried MlRawViewer and now that i tried i run in 2 problems and maybe some one here in the forum can help me on this.

1- I have to format  my main disk and install everything from new. I have install Premiere CC 2014 and now the MOV files that came out of MlRawViewer can't be read from Premiere. I have install Quick Time Pro but still can't read them. Do i need to install any kind of codec?   

2- I was waiting for the version with stripes/noise removing tool and there it is, thanks =))  So i went to my MLV files to process them again and remove the noise. But i encounter one problem, especial with one clip. Where the highlight blow, it come out blue... the older DNG's are ok but with this new version it come like this. What is better to send for analyze? Maybe one DNG extract from the new and other DNG from the old conversion where everything is ok? For comparison?     

PC
Win 7 i5
GeForce GTX 460
8GB Ram

Thnaks =)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 12, 2014, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: arrinkiiii on October 12, 2014, 01:37:19 PM
Hi,

Long time didn't  tried MlRawViewer and now that i tried i run in 2 problems and maybe some one here in the forum can help me on this.

1- I have to format  my main disk and install everything from new. I have install Premiere CC 2014 and now the MOV files that came out of MlRawViewer can't be read from Premiere. I have install Quick Time Pro but still can't read them. Do i need to install any kind of codec?   

2- I was waiting for the version with stripes/noise removing tool and there it is, thanks =))  So i went to my MLV files to process them again and remove the noise. But i encounter one problem, especial with one clip. Where the highlight blow, it come out blue... the older DNG's are ok but with this new version it come like this. What is better to send for analyze? Maybe one DNG extract from the new and other DNG from the old conversion where everything is ok? For comparison?     

PC
Win 7 i5
GeForce GTX 460
8GB Ram

Thnaks =)


Re 1:

What version was this - 1.3.2 (the "testing" version), or 1.2.3 (the "stable" version) ?
If 1.3.2, did you convert multiple files at once using the "C" key, or just a single file?

Re 2:

2 DNGs - one made with stripe reduction on, the other with stripe reduction off. Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on October 12, 2014, 03:28:58 PM

The 1 is already solve...  Wend you open a old premiere file on the new premiere it will ask for record with new name, after install Quick Time i still open this new version and he didn't went to get the link of the MOV file. So i just open the old premiere file (in the new premiere) and he  ask me again for new name and this time he get connected to the link.  So, all good with MOV from MlRawViewer =D  What a great tool we got here. Thanks.

OK, will upload the DNG's and put the link here.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on October 12, 2014, 04:39:48 PM

I think i already know what is going on, at least until one point. Let me try to explain this in english, that going to be hard to me...

I open the new DNG in Photoshop (acr) and i can see the blu-ish color under the balcony but in after effects i don't see that, only the normal color (white with a little blue)  That's why i said that the new version of MlRawViewer was giving me this blu-ish color. 

So, i went to folder of the old dng and open in MlRawViewer and the same blus-ish color appear! I can see that the problem is not from old or new version of MlRawViewer. I look and look for see why my sequence of DNG's are alright in After Effects and in MlRawViewer not, with a old version or newest  of the app.  Went to AE and open the ACR for that DNG sequence and i see that in the first panel of ACR  everything is in 0 (zero)... after i click in the Camera Calibration tab and change from Embedded to Natural or  Faithful Camera Profile. With this i solve the problem of the blue-ish color.

If i use the DNG's sequence in After Effects it's ok because i can change the camera profile but in MlRawViewer I can't and for  you export in MOV (that what i want to do) the MOV file come out with this blue-ish. Is any solution for this??

This MLV footage was recorded with old version of MLV Raw  (almost one year ago)

Here is the link for one DNG,
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5tk6amc3afr86je/AAAed92rmvmLjZ_EEL0JC8RBa?dl=0

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 13, 2014, 07:47:42 AM
Thanks @Baldand -- I did follow your instruction and deleted everything including the .mlrawviewer and unfortunately since I already deleted it so I wasn't able to retrieve the crash report per your request. My fault on that.

However, I was able to record my own macbook's screen to show you what this looks like...



I actually do miss using your wonderful software... extremely frustrating!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on October 13, 2014, 08:38:47 PM
Hi Baldand,

Sadly MlRawViewer Stop playing mlv files, It look like it crashes.

mac OSX mavericks.

Here is what i know,
1. when i am trying to play an mlv file nothing is happen (command option escape - shows the app for a blink and then it disappear)
2. It happens in 1.3.2 and also in 1.2.3
3. the app plays cdng and dng with no problem.

Your app is the number one viewer for me, i am using it from day 1.
Please help.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 13, 2014, 09:34:22 PM
Quote from: DavidSh on October 13, 2014, 08:38:47 PM
Hi Baldand,

Sadly MlRawViewer Stop playing mlv files, It look like it crashes.

mac OSX mavericks.

Here is what i know,
1. when i am trying to play an mlv file nothing is happen (command option escape - shows the app for a blink and then it disappear)
2. It happens in 1.3.2 and also in 1.2.3
3. the app plays cdng and dng with no problem.

Your app is the number one viewer for me, i am using it from day 1.
Please help.

Please share the log file. Then try deleting the .mlrawviewer directory.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on October 13, 2014, 10:05:15 PM
http://mab.to/141HWP48Y (http://mab.to/141HWP48Y)

download link for the log file.

deleting the .mlrawviewer folder didnt help. should i remove the app and reinstall it also?

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on October 13, 2014, 10:11:17 PM
o.k got it, it is the .mld from the mlvfs.

Your app is still the Best mlv viewer and render around!

Thank you Baldand.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 13, 2014, 10:12:18 PM
Quote from: DavidSh on October 13, 2014, 10:11:17 PM
o.k got it, it is the .mld from the mlvfs.

Your app is still the Best mlv viewer and render around!

Thank you Baldand.

You beat me to it. Yes - out of interest, do you know what tool is creating those files?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on October 13, 2014, 10:18:51 PM
Just told you... MLVFS,

After deleting the empty folders ".mld" wich created by mlvfs your app came back to life.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 13, 2014, 10:31:50 PM
Quote from: DavidSh on October 13, 2014, 10:18:51 PM
Just told you... MLVFS,

After deleting the empty folders ".mld" wich created by mlvfs your app came back to life.

Sorry, missed that.

That's a bit unfortunate. I'll try to make the file parsing more robust in a future version, but for now I guess people will have to clean up those .mld folders if they want to use MlRawViewer to view the same files.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 14, 2014, 08:05:52 AM
Excellent find @Davidsh... I went ahead and deleted the empty .MLD folders that were created from MLFVS. I literally felt like a kid again after finding my favorite candy bar (MlRawViewer) hidden in a drawer somewhere. THANKS again @Baldand and I'll continue to use your remarkable app in MlRawViewer as always!

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3940/15346595857_251bed775b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/po8jhi)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 14, 2014, 12:08:27 PM
Here's the CR from the latest crashing when exporting as DNG's...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tyadlbg2tpedcpt/Mlrawviewer_CR.pdf?dl=0

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 14, 2014, 03:36:35 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on October 14, 2014, 12:08:27 PM
Here's the CR from the latest crashing when exporting as DNG's...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tyadlbg2tpedcpt/Mlrawviewer_CR.pdf?dl=0


Thanks. Looks like you managed to find a bug in the new lossless jpeg encoder.

Is it possible for you to share the (or an?) MLV that triggers this?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 14, 2014, 07:05:47 PM
Quote from: baldand on October 14, 2014, 03:36:35 PM
Thanks. Looks like you managed to find a bug in the new lossless jpeg encoder.

Is it possible for you to share the (or an?) MLV that triggers this?
@Baldand -- Sure here they are...

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ypj1tj62al8j0b/AADDeukEIewP6b-zkfOAu2C8a?dl=0

(it has both the original MLV & REC.TMP files)

Hope to continue to help along... THANKS AGAIN and looking forward to future updates regarding MlRawViewer!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Jbowdach on October 14, 2014, 07:24:18 PM
just in case it got lost in the thread, i put together  quick walk through for beginners on how to quicker get started. Hope it helps! Many thanks for your continued work on this project!

http://bit.ly/mlraw2pr (http://bit.ly/mlraw2pr)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dfgh on October 14, 2014, 08:45:11 PM
As mentioned before I'm getting lock ups when exporting. I recently deleted everything and started again but it's still happening.

Here is the latest log file log file

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dmjbqgh9k6250bm/mlrawviewer.log?dl=0

CPU Intel  i7 4930k
Nvidia 670GTX
RAM 32GB 1866mhz ( I think that's the speed anyway ) Quad Channel
Hybrid Seagate SSD 1 TB Win 7  ( Although SATAiii drives I work on for projects. Mainly 1TB - 3TB 7200rpm)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 14, 2014, 09:12:43 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on October 14, 2014, 07:05:47 PM
@Baldand -- Sure here they are...
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ypj1tj62al8j0b/AADDeukEIewP6b-zkfOAu2C8a?dl=0

@DeafEyeJedi Thanks, but unfortunately I couldn't reproduce the crash with that file. Does it crash every time the same way when you export it?

Quote from: dfgh on October 14, 2014, 08:45:11 PM
As mentioned before I'm getting lock ups when exporting. I recently deleted everything and started again but it's still happening.
Here is the latest log file log file
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dmjbqgh9k6250bm/mlrawviewer.log?dl=0
CPU Intel  i7 4930k
Nvidia 670GTX
RAM 32GB 1866mhz ( I think that's the speed anyway ) Quad Channel
Hybrid Seagate SSD 1 TB Win 7  ( Although SATAiii drives I work on for projects. Mainly 1TB - 3TB 7200rpm)

@dfgh Thanks also, but no solid clues in the log file.
Have you tried version 1.3.2 yet?
Are you using stripe correction or not? If so, try with it turned off as that is a simpler pipeline.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 14, 2014, 09:49:19 PM
@Baldand -- okay I've taken the troubleshoot somewhat to another level and was able to narrow down the possibilities.

#1 - I was able to export as DNG's with original MLV folder on latest MlRawViewer (1.3.2) -- so that makes sense why you weren't able to duplicate the issue I was referring to earlier. (But since it was shot in DUAL-ISO so I'll need to convert it obviously)

#2 - I was NOT able to export converted DNG's since it crashes every time (after its been converted with MLVFS -- could this be related to the .MLD issues from earlier?)*** Perhaps I'll try to convert the DUAL-ISO with 20-bit cr2hdr in LR and see if the crashes still occur (just to be sure its not just related to MLVFS)

***IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING... I've uploaded the converted DNG's (.MLD) onto my dropbox for your own experiments.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jgkkynpy4oph79u/AADUYvtnMsVAKydOg8tKSJjTa?dl=0

More troubleshooting to come as I'll be leaving for work and will try to find downtime to hunt this bug down!

Thanks again!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 14, 2014, 10:27:28 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on October 14, 2014, 09:49:19 PM
#1 - I was able to export as DNG's with original MLV folder on latest MlRawViewer (1.3.2) -- so that makes sense why you weren't able to duplicate the issue I was referring to earlier. (But since it was shot in DUAL-ISO so I'll need to convert it obviously)

Thanks. Now I was able to reproduce the crash using your 16bit DNGs. The ljpeg code is not currently capable of handling these 16bit files which contain full range data interpolated from dual-iso material.

This is quite an "edge case" for me since the data is already a DNG so there's quite limited value re-exporting that to new DNGs. They can be viewed, and exported to MOV. Maybe later the DNG export case will work too, but I don't consider it a high priority fix. Sorry!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 14, 2014, 10:30:48 PM
Sounds good, No problem & Thanks! However, would you happen to have a preferred way to use dual ISO MLV if you wanted to convert them and yet still  be able to use your software as well as others when necessary?

Currently converting w 20-bit cr2hdr within LR -- stand by! (I'm still curious whether if it would still work or not)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 14, 2014, 10:38:43 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on October 14, 2014, 10:30:48 PM
Sounds good, No problem & Thanks! However, would you happen to have a preferred way to use dual ISO MLV if you wanted to be able to use your software as well as others when necessary?

Currently converting w 20-bit cr2hdr within LR -- stand by! (I'm still curious whether if it would still work or not)

Sorry, I can't give any guidance regarding dual-ISO as I only have a 7D, which sadly doesn't support dual-ISO video. If anyone has found some step in the dual-ISO workflow which MlRawViewer can help with as-is, that's great, but right now there is no explicit support for dual-ISO in the tool.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: TKez on October 15, 2014, 01:32:52 AM
Firstly, Wow! I've had a 70d since they came out but patiently waiting for ML. just picked up a used 550d and ML'd it straight away to have a mess with mlv.
Not seeing this thread at first, I was fumbling with old tedious workflows and was thinking, what we need is a simple utility to squash 14bits into Prores 4444 with a log curve. To my surprise, you'd already done it! And a stellar job too.

Now the only other idea that popped into my head is, what's the possibility of porting some of this code to a quick look plugin?
Quick and nasty lo-res preview would suffice, just something to make navigating heaps of arbitrarily named MLVs a bit more visual.
I can help with the quicklook framework side though I'm not so good with plain C.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 15, 2014, 03:57:02 AM
Quote from: baldand on October 14, 2014, 10:38:43 PM
Sorry, I can't give any guidance regarding dual-ISO as I only have a 7D, which sadly doesn't support dual-ISO video. If anyone has found some step in the dual-ISO workflow which MlRawViewer can help with as-is, that's great, but right now there is no explicit support for dual-ISO in the tool.

Makes sense. Just so you know that I have full access to a 7D at work and have used ML on it (I can take home for testing when necessary) as well. If there's anything else that I can do to help speed up your software or even assist @a1ex if possible to take this Magic even further?

Just let me know...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: chmee on October 15, 2014, 09:40:10 AM
@DeafEyeJedi:
could you provide a short DualISO-Clip for the samplefiles (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11899.0)?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 15, 2014, 09:42:47 AM
Quote from: chmee on October 15, 2014, 09:40:10 AM
@DeafEyeJedi:
could you provide a short DualISO-Clip for the samplefiles (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11899.0)?

from which body? 5D3, EOS-M or 7D?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: chmee on October 15, 2014, 09:45:58 AM
hmm. think most interesting would be 5DIII DualISO, EOS-M should be interesting cause of the af-pattern on sensor.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 15, 2014, 10:11:54 AM
Quote from: chmee on October 15, 2014, 09:45:58 AM
hmm. think most interesting would be 5DIII DualISO, EOS-M should be interesting cause of the af-pattern on sensor.

5D3 - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0pjyczg9i5wzbxh/AAAvkEs5o6idJ-nGkns0rudna?dl=0

EOS-M - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/518hfz7rmal6q3p/AAB7QI7ddayuse6DqOODG7Vja?dl=0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Toffifee on October 16, 2014, 12:40:30 AM
Do you need more dual iso samples Chmee?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: TKez on October 16, 2014, 01:20:03 AM
QuoteNow the only other idea that popped into my head is, what's the possibility of porting some of this code to a quick look plugin?
Quick and nasty lo-res preview would suffice, just something to make navigating heaps of arbitrarily named MLVs a bit more visual.
I can help with the quicklook framework side though I'm not so good with plain C.

Ok so maybe no ned to reinvent the wheel. Perian is dead but this is semi working, probably just needing a little tweak. Looking at the source it's just using VLCKit so once it's updated for new ffmpeg, this may work for MLV thumbnails and quicklook previews.

https://github.com/Marginal/QLVideo

EDIT: Ok on deeper inspection looks like this might only be good for thumbnails / static previews due to AVFramework. I would personally find even thumbnails helpful. Another option could be %50 snapshot for thumbnail and then a 4up static quicklook preview with 0%, %25, %50, %75. The workflow advantage being: with a folder full of MLVs, we can quickly tell which need to be transcoded and which need to be trashed.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nick.p on October 16, 2014, 01:21:41 AM
A quicklook plugin would be amazing
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dfgh on October 16, 2014, 03:54:00 PM
@baldand It seems to crash with or without stripe correction on.

How do I get version 1.3.2?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 16, 2014, 06:48:40 PM
Quote from: dfgh on October 16, 2014, 03:54:00 PM
@baldand It seems to crash with or without stripe correction on.

How do I get version 1.3.2?

Downloads page: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads)

(However, I don't consider the 1.3.x series yet considered "stable" - 1.2.3 is still the official "stable" version)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: chmee on October 16, 2014, 11:44:07 PM
@toffifee
yeah link it inside the samplefiles-thread as mentioned above.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 17, 2014, 09:36:56 PM
1.3.3 available for testing

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads)

This contains everything from previous 1.3.x releases, plus fixes for a few bugs:
- Fix for failure when exporting .RAW files with missing frames
- More robust search of spanning files. Won't be fooled/broken by .MLD dirs made by .MLVFS
- Fix for some encoding problems when using the C key to export all in a directory
- Fix (I hope...finally..) for the missing mouse cursor problem when switching to/from fullscreen
- Fix for bug when exporting file without LUT after file with LUT (LUT would be wrongly used)
- Fixes for some export robustness issues on Windows

Please try it out, and let me know if you have problems or not.

If you do have problems, try to first find the "mlrawviewer.log" file file from the hidden ".mlrawviewer" directory in your home directory, and share that.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on October 17, 2014, 10:53:38 PM
hello baland,
yes! thank you for further improvements and bug fixes, this is really great!!i wonder if you have also planned an update for vertical stripes correction optimization for 5d mk3?
this would be really great.

another thing that woud be really great for onset preview is the possibility to playback a looped sequence (from the in to out point) and not only a loop from the complete take.

thank you very much, mlrawviewer is getting better and better with every update,
swinxx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 17, 2014, 11:12:41 PM
@swinxx at the moment I'm focusing mainly on bug fixes to make sure the current features are stable

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on October 17, 2014, 11:21:15 PM
Thank you @baldand,

- More robust search of spanning files. Won't be fooled/broken by .MLD dirs made by .MLVFS ---- Works Great

- Fix (I hope...finally..) for the missing mouse cursor problem when switching to/from fullscreen ---- At Last Work Great :)

Have not tried the other fixes

OSX Mavericks, Macbook air.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mdbatter on October 17, 2014, 11:42:38 PM
Well done to all the developers of MLRawViewer! 

Now I'm may be about to ask a silly question!  I have been happily using v1.1.6, but decided the other day to update to v 1.2.3.  But when I unzipped the file (I'm running win7), nothing would work.  The exe file does not run, nor if I drop an MLV file on it does anything happen. And no LOG file is produced in my User directory.  On further investigation, v1.1.7 will work, but not 1.2.0 or anything later (where there has obviously been a change since there were only 3 files in the zip folder up to v1.1.7, but 878 files for all later versions).  Am I doing something incredibly stupid?

Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 17, 2014, 11:52:11 PM
Quote from: mdbatter on October 17, 2014, 11:42:38 PM
Well done to all the developers of MLRawViewer! 

Now I'm may be about to ask a silly question!  I have been happily using v1.1.6, but decided the other day to update to v 1.2.3.  But when I unzipped the file (I'm running win7), nothing would work.  The exe file does not run, nor if I drop an MLV file on it does anything happen. And no LOG file is produced in my User directory.  On further investigation, v1.1.7 will work, but not 1.2.0 or anything later (where there has obviously been a change since there were only 3 files in the zip folder up to v1.1.7, but 878 files for all later versions).  Am I doing something incredibly stupid?

Thanks.

It should have created a ".mlrawviewer" dir in your /Users/<username> folder. The log file is in there. After checking it, try deleting the whole dir and running again.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on October 18, 2014, 07:46:23 AM
MlRawViewer 1.2.3 in OSX YOSEMITE, works!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 18, 2014, 08:26:48 AM
BIG Thanks @Baldand for your most hyped update this week. I've been jonesing for this all day today because I could literally feel it!

What a coincidence to have this & @Danne's incredible cr2hdr-r application (automator) both get their nice updates today which I am currently in the process of it as I type  ;D

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3930/15375700440_75c2238cfc_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pqGu4s)

Stand by...

*EDIT*

Anyone else notice a lag within the app during .MOV exports on the latest MlRawViewer (1.3.3)?? To me, it seems much longer to render & I wonder why...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mdbatter on October 18, 2014, 01:08:47 PM
Quote from: mdbatter on Yesterday at 11:42:38 PM

    Well done to all the developers of MLRawViewer!

    Now I'm may be about to ask a silly question!  I have been happily using v1.1.6, but decided the other day to update to v 1.2.3.  But when I unzipped the file (I'm running win7), nothing would work.  The exe file does not run, nor if I drop an MLV file on it does anything happen. And no LOG file is produced in my User directory.  On further investigation, v1.1.7 will work, but not 1.2.0 or anything later (where there has obviously been a change since there were only 3 files in the zip folder up to v1.1.7, but 878 files for all later versions).  Am I doing something incredibly stupid?

    Thanks.


It should have created a ".mlrawviewer" dir in your /Users/<username> folder. The log file is in there. After checking it, try deleting the whole dir and running again.


Baldand - thanks, but as I noted in my first post, there was no LOG file as there was no ".mlrawviewer" folder created.  Perhaps not surprising as the program did not appear to run at all. I have now tried on a win7 laptop with the same results: v1.1.7 works fine but 1.2.3 does not.  However, the laptop did create a ".mlrawviewer" folder but that did not contain a LOG file but it did contain three files named: "encodeType", "loopPlayback" and "updateVersion".  The latter just had "1.1.7" in it. the other two a couple of symbols only.

I assume I do not need to install Python separately on a win7 machine?  Otherwise, I am at my wits end as no-one else seems to have reported these problems.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: simulacro on October 18, 2014, 01:35:14 PM
Hi, I tested the 1.3.3 version and regarding the problems I had before:
The batch conversion works really well and the weird motion is gone
My prores files from MLRV had very strange colours on some zones of the images and now it's only present on two videos, the color is different (present in blues and greens), before it was red, now it's pink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRZ9tLwD28k&feature=youtu.be

Below there is a jpg export from the dng's
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-X6MS1dWUwJ4/VEJNnVhUU0I/AAAAAAAACg4/GEMBMdaJtU8/s912/logronodng%2520%25281%2520of%25201%2529.jpg)

¿could it be something related to my computer? MBpro mid 2009 Mountain Lion, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256 MB

Regards
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 18, 2014, 02:48:14 PM

- Fix for failure when exporting .RAW files with missing frames


Thanks a lot, I just had this problem yesterday. I'll test the new release!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jackinspain on October 18, 2014, 11:42:35 PM
Hi,

I've been succefully using the app "MlRawViewer" 1.2.3 and now the 1.3.3 but after some convertion it's not working anymore.

After trying many times I uninstall the app, reboot the Imac and reinstall the app but nothing to do, the convertion fuction from MLV to DNG's isn't working anymore (the other function are still working).

I experienced the same on my laptop (Macbookpro). :-(

Important job coming = scary moments...

Also I would like to be able to do the convertion as a batch process and not clip by clip because I loose too much time.

Many thanks,

Best,
Jacques
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 19, 2014, 05:50:02 AM
@baldand -- sorry for the delay but I also wanted to report some CR regarding a situation when I tap on 'W' to double check my destination folder for output DURING the process of rendering .MOV files and the app suddenly crashes (twice I tried same method)... is this normal for 1.3.3?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r4cdl4aoydlusjs/CR_MlRawViewer_10%3A18%3A14.rtf?dl=0

I probably shouldn't have done this and wait until the rendering ends otherwise I wouldn't be asking this. Again, I absolutely am in awe of this remarkable app and will continue to support you as much as I can -- NO BIGGIE because I was only using my test files.  ;)

Other than the rendering is literally like 3X slower than what it used to be on previous versions... is there a reason for this?

talk soon.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 19, 2014, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on October 19, 2014, 05:50:02 AM
Other than the rendering is literally like 3X slower than what it used to be on previous versions... is there a reason for this?

I am not able to reproduce this. Can you do some more quantitative tests and give more information:

- Exact details of your computer and operating system, source and target disk types
- Version numbers you are comparing, e.g. 1.3.2 and 1.3.3 (don't change any other aspect of your setup when comparing results)
- Encoding settings, e.g. how many LUTs, mapping function (e.g. Log-8, C-Log), stripe correction on or off
- Time taken to encode with old version
- Time taken to encode same files with same settings with new version

It might be worth checking time taken both with and without stripe correction since that is a more complex processing pipeline. Also good to test with more than one source file.

Also: Has anyone else seen a similar extreme performance regression with MOV encoding in 1.3.3 compared to earlier versions?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 19, 2014, 10:28:21 AM
I've experiences performance regression in dng export too. I don't know if I can test it today but I've not changed anything.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on October 19, 2014, 10:31:18 AM
 "Has anyone else seen a similar extreme performance regression with MOV encoding in 1.3.3 compared to earlier versions?"

Just checked, for me all is ok with .mov rendering.

macbook air, OSX Mavericks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 19, 2014, 10:35:55 AM
Quote from: togg on October 19, 2014, 10:28:21 AM
I've experiences performance regression in dng export too. I don't know if I can test it today but I've not changed anything.

That's expected in DNG export at least compared to 1.2.x series as the DNGs are now compressed. Although the slow-down should not be extreme.

The issue here was with MOV rendering/export.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on October 19, 2014, 01:55:39 PM
Quoteanyone else seen a similar extreme performance regression with MOV encoding in 1.3.3

Rendering to .mov is about 2 x slower in 1.3.3 for me.

OSX 10.7.5
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 19, 2014, 04:28:04 PM
I'll try 1.3.2 dng export vs 1.3.3.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 19, 2014, 10:09:15 PM
Quote from: baldand on October 19, 2014, 10:20:34 AM
I am not able to reproduce this. Can you do some more quantitative tests and give more information:

- Exact details of your computer and operating system, source and target disk types


- Version numbers you are comparing, e.g. 1.3.2 and 1.3.3 (don't change any other aspect of your setup when comparing results) currently comparing between 1.3.2 & 1.3.3
- Encoding settings, e.g. how many LUTs, mapping function (e.g. Log-8, C-Log), stripe correction on or off

- Time taken to encode with old version currently testing

- Time taken to encode same files with same settings with new version currently testing

It might be worth checking time taken both with and without stripe correction since that is a more complex processing pipeline. Also good to test with more than one source file.  Agreed. I am currently testing this since I felt that the stripe correction really takes a toll (which is normal) but as for me with 5D3/EOS-M I'm not really noticing any stripes issues except for the 7D that I use at work sometimes

THANKS @baldand!

Also: Has anyone else seen a similar extreme performance regression with MOV encoding in 1.3.3 compared to earlier versions?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 20, 2014, 05:01:59 AM
@Baldand -- Thanks again for your PM regarding test for Mac. I ran it twice to make sure and deleted a bunch of empty .MLD files as well as empty DNG folders that were created by your app right before the crash. Perhaps there's something wrong with my macbook pro or could this be due to MLVFS latest update?



**Edit**
Test #2 (Frozen Exports)


I'll keep troubleshooting this down to figure out what is causing this app to NOT export either DNG's nor .MOV's...

All was fine until I updated the test app and then again on the original 1.3.3 (non-test) and still the export error persist.

Here's the CR from the Mac_Perf...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bksw9fqbrim83fb/CR_MlRawViewer_1.3.3_Mac_Perf.rtf?dl=0

SJ
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 20, 2014, 05:49:18 AM
**Interesting Facts**

Both started export (.MOV) at same time.

Top Left = MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (Mac_Perf Test)
Bottom Right = MlRawViewer 1.3.3
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5606/15579895915_98ef56d763_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pJK3g6)

*Edit*
Approximate 10 minutes later...
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5610/14959818263_d2229955fd_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oMWYM6)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 20, 2014, 07:27:34 AM
An hour and 28 minutes later...
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5616/15556763136_490bac7a0a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pGGtG5)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 20, 2014, 01:03:11 PM
Silly question, where can I find 1.3.2?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 20, 2014, 03:08:54 PM
Quote from: togg on October 20, 2014, 01:03:11 PM
Silly question, where can I find 1.3.2?

Not silly. I deleted it from bitbucket already.

Why:

I have changed the development model recently so that there is a concurrent "stable" version and "testing" version.
The stable version (currently 1.2.3 - see the current title of the thread above ^) is the one I recommend people to use as it has had the most usage and has quite well known behaviour and features.
The testing version (currently 1.3.3) is the one which has more features but also more new bugs than the stable version. When I'm happy that the testing version is an improvement on the stable version, it will become the new stable version.
Each new minor version number indicates a new development series, which should hopefully finish with a stable version.
A consequence of this is that I don't want to leave multiple testing versions available for people. Either they should be using the latest stable version, or the latest testing version. Anything in between is likely to have more bugs.

At the moment I'm hoping 1.3.3 will become the new stable version soon.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 20, 2014, 03:14:38 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on October 20, 2014, 07:27:34 AM
An hour and 28 minutes later...

@DeafEyeJedi thanks for checking this out, but at the moment I haven't seen any clear evidence of a problem. @timbytheriver confirmed that his system was working fine, and there have been no other reports of a similar issue yet. By clear report I would expect you to write something like "1.3.2 export took 20 minutes, 1.3.3 export same settings took 60 minutes, 1.3.3 testing export same settings took 60 minutes". The screenshots are not so helpful.

By the way, I don't recommend you do concurrent exports from 2 instances of MlRawViewer. They will be competing for all the resources of your system and the result is likely to be slower than running 2 exports in sequence.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldavenger on October 21, 2014, 05:29:59 AM
Would it be possible to get access to the 1D Luts for Linear to Log-C, C-Log, S-log, and S-log2? AFAIK they are not included in the separate Lut download.  Would be very useful for compatibility tests.

Thank you  :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 21, 2014, 06:18:58 AM
@baldand -- okay that makes perfect sense and funny thing is the fact that I felt strange during the rendering last night about this exact point you just pointed out but I was already more than halfway through so that'll make me even more idiotic. However, Thanks for your clarification and would definitely suspect this is all due to my old sluggish macbook pro (according to my spec that you saw from earlier) but will also gladly continue to do some more testings on the mac_perf version and let you know the final results with actual facts.

Since I am on the road for a shoot so I will probably get this back to you by tomorrow late evening, if not later.

Thanks again for your kindness.

SJ
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 21, 2014, 06:31:51 AM
Quote from: baldavenger on October 21, 2014, 05:29:59 AM
Would it be possible to get access to the 1D Luts for Linear to Log-C, C-Log, S-log, and S-log2? AFAIK they are not included in the separate Lut download.  Would be very useful for compatibility tests.

Thank you  :)

I updated the LUT zip now:

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_LUTS_1_1.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_LUTS_1_1.zip)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 21, 2014, 07:08:09 AM
@baldand -- thanks for the update on the LUT.zip. Do I need to reinstall all of LUT's that I use or would it still be in the system from the previous version?

Edit:

Nevermind on that. It was all still in there plus the new added ones as well. Sweet stuff. Now I may have notice another possible bug...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 21, 2014, 07:34:24 AM
Those 1D LUTs are all built in. You don't need to import or update them in MlRawViewer. The zip is only for reference to have same the LUTs available as .cube files.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 21, 2014, 07:39:14 AM
Quote from: baldand on October 21, 2014, 07:34:24 AM
Those 1D LUTs are all built in. You don't need to import or update them in MlRawViewer. The zip is only for reference to have same the LUTs available as .cube files.

Figured. Thanks again!

**Edit:

When exporting DNG's that were converted by MLFVS together with @Danne's Cr2hdr-r app which produced 1.7MB DNG files, for some reason it will not allow me to export either .MOV or .DNG's -- I can play and check out the LUT's but once I click export -- it just stays on 0.00% for good until I cancel the process.

Also once I cancel a .DNG export -- it produced an empty folder in my file system. Could this be the issue related to this so called bug? Also I tried to export as .MOV & .DNG with a regular .MLV footage which works fine and the percentage ticks in right away whereas the other didn't.

I ran into this last night as well but somehow I managed to get around it and Im not quite sure how I did it. I'll try looking for some more empty folders...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 21, 2014, 08:27:58 AM
Isn,t that a problem from when trying to export(mov or dng) files that origins from the mlvfs mount? I had those problems last I tried using Mlrawviewer together with mlvfs. What happens if you export the dngs outside mlvfs mount?
Will check your fine updates soon Andrew. Cool stuff!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: lexle on October 21, 2014, 11:01:26 AM
Hi there.
I have a project where i started to use the exported MOV files for the animatic. I exported it with an older version.
Now i want to export my mlv files to .DNGs but i keep getting black frames exported, which i didn´t get weeksa ago with the old version.
I tried it both ways (drop frames - show all frames). Since i don´t need more settings than just the export, do you have an older version of this app still online?

thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 21, 2014, 11:19:08 AM
See the downloads page: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads)

Do you see all black frames or just additional frames? Drop frame setting does not apply to export.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: lexle on October 21, 2014, 11:39:14 AM
i tried it now with an older build but the same problem. i just realised its the problem with the dngs. i exported the mov file and it was fine. with the dng sequence i geht some flickering black frames. i ran the export on the ssd because at first i thought maybe the hdd is to slow. hm
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: glucas on October 21, 2014, 02:31:43 PM
Hi Badland
Congratulations for this great tool. it is really very useful!!
Would it be possible assign a shortcut to a LUT (1d + 3d) to apply it to other MLV?
(like now the shortcuts  H & G)

g.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldavenger on October 21, 2014, 03:42:02 PM
Quote from: baldand on October 21, 2014, 06:31:51 AM
I updated the LUT zip now:

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_LUTS_1_1.zip (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_LUTS_1_1.zip)

Thank you so much!  Once again your work and contribution is greatly appreciated  :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 21, 2014, 07:00:39 PM
Would it be possible to have the choice to have the mrx files not created or created all in a specific directory? If I've get it right they are for having options saved, I don't really need them and they give a messy look to all the folders :)

Everything else feels good.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 21, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
Quote from: togg on October 21, 2014, 07:00:39 PM
Would it be possible to have the choice to have the mrx files not created or created all in a specific directory? If I've get it right they are for having options saved, I don't really need them and they give a messy look to all the folders :)

Everything else feels good.

Sorry, but I don't think that is going to change.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 22, 2014, 08:51:02 AM
@Baldand -- here's the follow up to the recent test regarding .MOV exports comparison with 1.3.3/1.3.3_Mac_Perf

Not sure if this is a real factor but if it helps by seconds then I suppose the test app does help a bit on Mac's?

1.3.3_Mac_Perf:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3954/15595594471_9b23110b74_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pL8uTR)
1.3.3:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3945/15595595061_7fb96cf980_c.jpg)

Conclusion:
Regarding my situation from earlier is obviously a hardware issue with my MBP. Glad it's still working strong since 2006 but apparently not strong enough for this type of post work.  :-\

I'll just do the heavy renderings at work on their new Mac Pro... it's pretty quick. Lighting quick actually...

Appreciate your hardwork on this remarkable app, as always!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.2.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on October 22, 2014, 01:12:25 PM
Can somebody shed some light about the correct stacking of Curves and LUTs in MlRaw viewer?

I've been having success on a certain .raw clip with:

Curve: Linear
1D LUT: Linear to Log 9
3D LUT: Kodak Vision3 (for Log)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21590714/LUTstack.jpg)

But then I notice that say @DeafEyeJedi example has a different LUT order. Is there a 'right' way to do this for MlRawViewer

Thanks!

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 22, 2014, 06:01:39 PM
1.3.3 is now the stable & recommended version of MlRawViewer. See the top post for links and usage.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 22, 2014, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: baldand on October 22, 2014, 06:01:39 PM
1.3.3 is now the stable & recommended version of MlRawViewer. See the top post for links and usage.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg91165#msg91165)
COPY that @baldand -- is it recommended to redownload 1.3.3 or is that not necessary? Also how were you able to get the histogram tool implemented on the mac version or is that never going to happen?

I noticed that the Windows version has it built in... which looks really nice and extremely helpful!

**EDIT**
Actually nevrmind that as I noticed there was a tinted window on the top right corner of the app itself... it was blank until I clicked on top of it with the cursor and VOLIA here comes the beauty of histogram!

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5613/15415612978_2d5fb8ffb8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pue3EE)
THANKS AGAIN!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on October 22, 2014, 06:49:10 PM
Thank you Baldand,

Any idea why premiere cc cannot read the CDng?
It says "The file appear to have no media data"

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 22, 2014, 07:16:09 PM
Quote from: DavidSh on October 22, 2014, 06:49:10 PM
Any idea why premiere cc cannot read the CDng?
It says "The file appear to have no media data
Can you give more details please.
Is it a problem with all DNGs or just one file?
Did the same MLV file work when exported to DNG with 1.2.3?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on October 22, 2014, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: baldand on October 22, 2014, 07:16:09 PM
Can you give more details please.
Is it a problem with all DNGs or just one file? - All DNG
Did the same MLV file work when exported to DNG with 1.2.3? - Yes


Also preview on mac look bad (Pinkish distortion), but i read that it because mac cannot read the new format correctly? 

Macbook Air, OSX 10.9.3
Premiere pro cc,
files came from 5dm3

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 22, 2014, 07:32:06 PM
It sounds like Premiere CC doesn't like compressed DNGs, or at least it doesn't like MlRawViewer's compressed DNGs (even though they are fine in ACR, Resolve and all Linux/dcraw-derived tools).

Can anyone else confirm the same problem?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on October 22, 2014, 07:44:42 PM
Quote from: baldand on October 22, 2014, 07:32:06 PM
It sounds like Premiere CC doesn't like compressed DNGs, or at least it doesn't like MlRawViewer's compressed DNGs (even though they are fine in ACR, Resolve and all Linux/dcraw-derived tools).

Can anyone else confirm the same problem?

Indeed, I can confirm that it opens great in acr.
The problem is for anyone who use the premiere with speed grade workflow.

Another thing not less important...
is it a way to hide the overlays when playback pause? MlRawViewer is the best on set previewer solution, But when i want to see actor face when playback is pause it is a problem with histogram background on face :)

Thanks for reply so fast and for your beautiful app.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 22, 2014, 07:49:00 PM
It sounds like it's probably a bug in Premiere. If that's the case, I won't be fixing it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on October 22, 2014, 07:58:24 PM
another trigger to move for resolve :)
Thanks Baldand.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 22, 2014, 08:33:31 PM
Quote from: baldand on October 22, 2014, 07:49:00 PM
It sounds like it's probably a bug in Premiere. If that's the case, I won't be fixing it.

Currently testing this 'issue' with both PP CS6 & PP CC (pre-2014) and PP CC (2014) as well.

Stand by...

EDIT:

PP_CS6 stopped responding as soon as I opened the DNG folder created by MlRawViewer 1.3.3
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5612/15416548327_b399989c02.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/puiQHn)

PP_CC (pre-2014) <--- I didn't want to pay for this due to the 2014 version. My fault on this one!  :P
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3939/14981800544_3de80a6bc3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oPTDkW)

PP_CC (2014) works FLAWLESSLY so far... pretty remarkable!
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3937/15599880121_4c348589a9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pLvsSn)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 22, 2014, 09:40:17 PM
@DeafEyeJedi many thanks for testing that. It's very useful to know that the most recent version of PPCC is working ok with MlRawViewer 1.3.3 compressed DNGs

@DavidSh which version of Premiere CC are you using? If not the latest, can you upgrade?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on October 22, 2014, 09:44:44 PM
Thank you @DeafEyeJedi and thank you @Baldand,
Good to know that the 2014 version of pp support mlRawViewer 1.3.3, I'll try to put my hand on this.

Btw @DeafEyeJedi, It looks like the 2014 is still suffer from pink highlights?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 22, 2014, 10:16:46 PM
Quote from: DavidSh on October 22, 2014, 09:44:44 PM
Thank you @DeafEyeJedi and thank you @Baldand,
Good to know that the 2014 version of pp support mlRawViewer 1.3.3, I'll try to put my hand on this.

Btw @DeafEyeJedi, It looks like the 2014 is still suffer from pink highlights?

@DavidSh -- I believe that could be due to Unconverted Dual-ISO DNG's (shot w EOS-M)... I just exported them directly from MlRawViewer because I notice if I use @Danne's Cr2hdr-r or @dmilligan's MLVFS (both combined & solo) for some reason it won't be able to recognize the converted Dual-ISO DNG's in PP_CC (2014) unless I'm doing something incorrect that may be causing this?

Will try the LR5 Cr2hdr 20-bit plug-in and post about it soon.

Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 22, 2014, 10:30:00 PM
the cr2hdr20bit binary probably won,t produce metatags or whatever information needed in the dng for pp cc 2014. I think both lightrom and cr2hdr-r uses the same 20bit cr2hdr. I use Kitchehofs compilation so should be the same.
Anyway.
Cool that pp cc 2014 worked with latest Mlrawviewer. I have adobe cc at work and will try it tomorrow.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mohanohi on October 23, 2014, 06:19:33 PM
Can you implement other types of encoding formats like dnxhd or photo-jpeg codec formats? photo-jpeg format will be useful for proxy editing workflow. And also a timecode and filename burn-in (overlay) in the final exported mov file?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: TKez on October 24, 2014, 05:16:58 AM
I've been digging around more for getting the most out of our prores exports. Some info on DCP if you should ever find the time and interest!
Here's some correspondance from VisionColor

QuoteIs there a way to get or convert these LUTs to .cube format so they could be used with MLRawViewer to export MLV video as Prores4444 with visionLog profile?

Quotethank you for reaching out to us! Unfortunately conventional 3D LUT formats can not hold the data neccessary to convert linear light RAW sensor data to VisionLOG. AFAIK, a more complex camera profile which has Hue/Sat deltas and an independent tone curve is required for such operations.
I guess that the MLRawViewer uses the embedded camera profile to convert the raw data to images at which point it is too late in the process to use a  LUT to extract more information from the image.
Essentially MLRawViewer would need an option to load external dcp profiles for proper conversion...

But then I though I remembered..

QuoteHowever, I don't know how to support DCP files, since those are a binary file format intended for Adobe products. So to use VisionLOG, or CineLOG, you would need to get "simple" LUT versions of those, or else help me find a spec for the DCP file format.

So incase you never could find it....

Quote
The developer has mentioned possibly supporting dcp profiles if he could get the spec.
Could you point us in the right direction?

Quote
Sure, you can download the DNG specification and SDK on Adobe's website which lays out the dcp profile structure which should be all your developer needs. Here's the link: http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/digital-negative.html
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Andy600 on October 24, 2014, 01:47:11 PM
@TequilaKez - FYI MLRawViewer does not use an embedded DNG profile. It uses or assigns a set of XYZ to Camera RGB color matrices (these were developed for each camera by Adobe Labs) and then applies a chromatically adapted transform matrix from XYZ to sRGB primary chromacities with a D65 white point (these should match DCRaw - but BTW, they are not 100% accurate) so, to cut a long story short, it is actually possible (but quite complicated) to get VisionLog out of MLRawViewer :)

VisionColor are correct in saying that a 3D cube lut does not hold enough code vales for the full lin-to-log transform but MLRawViewer has fairly useful 1D/3D lut support and this means the log and color components can be handled separately (this is important, especially if the color component is non-linear, as it is in any DCP with a HSV table).

It's not easy to parse the color values that are stored in a DCP (although we have a prototype script that can attempts to do this) BUT, assuming VisionColor's BMDFilm to VisionLog lut produces the same end result as their DCP, I'm pretty confident that we can build a lut for MLRawViewer because we now know precisely, the coordinates of BMD Film colorspace. I'm confident because we've been testing some MLRV versions of our own luts.

If VisionColor are ok with it, I'll look to include their Resolve version of VisionLog as part of a basic (free) Magic Lantern pack that we're putting together (I cant give an ETA). This will give you some basic but accurate transforms/transfers that you can use in MLRawViewer and a couple of the other open source apps that support luts.

edit: I should add that the above is only relevant when using MLRV to render video, not when using it to extract DNG files - that would require MLRV to fully support DNG profiles (dcp).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: TKez on October 24, 2014, 03:41:57 PM
Thanks for the info Andy. I've been trying to read up a little on color space etc on Wikipedia but once I hit the lengthy transform equations it starts getting beyond the scope of 'need to know' for me. So tbh a lot of it goes over my head! I've just been working with mlv and Resolve and while dng has some nice advantages, for indie rec709 stuff, it seems to me that a prores workflow could be faster, more efficent for disk and cpu/gpu and more compatible with other apps and OSX (quick look). Ideally I would drag a folder of MLVs on mlrawviwer and it would spit out log encoded prores suitable for resolve with a single 3d output LUT. That could be a film stock LUT or plain old rec709.
I've just not had any lucky with the included log luts for mlvrawviewer, I think mainly because an additional input LUT seems to be required for the Output luts to make sense. So it ends up going thru 3 lossy luts and info appears to get lost or clipped along the way.
Apologies for any naiveity there, I'm still learning:) is this what prores from BMD cameras is?
Anyhow, your luts look equally promising for this application. I'd happily let go of a few bucks to realise this kind of workflow.!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bluewater on October 24, 2014, 04:44:10 PM
Hi, baldand

1.3.3 has some errors running on Windows 8.1. x64.
I think you only test it on WINDOWS 7.

I used 3 PCs using windows 8.1 x64 genuine.
EVERY 3 PCs showed the same results. (No starting)


I found some clue. I hope this will help.

Windows 8.1 Event viewer
SideBySide Error (even ID 35)

Can not make an activation context on "mlrawviewer_1_3_3\mlrawviewer.exe.Manifest" file.
There are errors in Manifest or 4th line on "mlrawviewer_1_3_3\mlrawviewer.exe.Manifest" policy file.
The Component ID in manifest is not identified with required ID.

Reference: Microsoft.VC90.MFC,provessorArchitecture="x86,publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="9.0.21022.8"

Definition: Microsoft.VC90.MFC,provessorArchitecture="x86,publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="9.0.30729.6161"

For more information use sxstrace.exe.


Thank you for you hard working. :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Andy600 on October 24, 2014, 05:03:04 PM
@TequilaKez - Log encoding is simply part of getting raw data into a smaller container (i.e. stored in a lower bit rate video file) so it's basically a form of compression. If it's done right you can reverse it to linear light without introducing any contouring (banding) and as nice side effect, a log image is more representative to how your eyes see light, and how film responds to light. Colorscience can indeed get very complex but you really don't need to know the fine points.

The numbered Log luts in MLRawViewer are based on very simple math and can be inverted to linear light easily, but they are not the easiest to work with. The other luts (Slog, LogC etc) are a bit more complicated because they assign (or should assign) very specific code values to the black, white and middle grey points. These luts can't simply be inverted (ok, technically they can but they will not look correct). They must be inverted and scaled (and may need a black point offset applied) so that a diffuse white reflector would have a floating point value of 1.0. This is what returns specular highlights to more realistic values (i.e. looks more like reality). A great many profiles don't do this so still you end up with a flat looking image, even when viewing in Rec709.

Technically speaking, Slog, LogC, Clog etc can not be represented in a single lut. There would be a separate one for each exposure (EI) or IRE value (set in the camera) and this is how Slog, LogC, Clog work in-camera. Each virtual lut is adjusted to compensate for the +/- gain of increasing/decreasing ISO. As this is not very practical the formulas used are based on the camera's native EI (in the case of LogC it is for EI800).

Part of the problem people may have in getting a good, workable log image comes from playing with the exposure slider. This can cause all kinds of issues because it is affecting the relationship between the log code values that are assigned to the black, white and middle gray values and this gets compounded further when the 'as shot ISO' is anything other than the chose EI value of the log formula - so basically try not to use the exposure slider.

As for getting MLRV to spit out log images that you can apply a 3D lut to, well yes, it already does that BUT the 3D lut itself must be based on the formula of whichever log profile you selected in MLRV. If it isn't, another lut will be needed to bridge the 2. We will provide a set of corrective 1D transfer luts for all the most useable of the options offered by MLRV, so that at least you'll be in the right ballpark and can use your other luts more effectively.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 24, 2014, 05:10:29 PM
Quote from: bluewater on October 24, 2014, 04:44:10 PM
Hi, baldand

1.3.3 has some errors running on Windows 8.1. x64.
I think you only test it on WINDOWS 7.

I used 3 PCs using windows 8.1 x64 genuine.
EVERY 3 PCs showed the same results. (No starting)


I found some clue. I hope this will help.

Windows 8.1 Event viewer
SideBySide Error (even ID 35)

Can not make an activation context on "mlrawviewer_1_3_3\mlrawviewer.exe.Manifest" file.
There are errors in Manifest or 4th line on "mlrawviewer_1_3_3\mlrawviewer.exe.Manifest" policy file.
The Component ID in manifest is not identified with required ID.

Reference: Microsoft.VC90.MFC,provessorArchitecture="x86,publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="9.0.21022.8"

Definition: Microsoft.VC90.MFC,provessorArchitecture="x86,publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="9.0.30729.6161"

For more information use sxstrace.exe.


Thank you for you hard working. :)

I don't believe this is a generic win8.1 issue as I am building and testing on Win8.1 these days. I'm not an expert on Windows app issues, but it sounds like a kind of site app policy checking issue. It's anyway not something I'm able to reproduce or debug.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 24, 2014, 06:36:26 PM
I'm having a big issue.
When I convert to dng or watch my raw file taken with differents cards and differents resolutions in MlRawViewer 1.3.3 I get a lot of black/corrupted frame. If I convert the raw file with rawmagic everything goes fine. If I try to use 1.2.3 the conversion stop at the first black frame (I haven't tested with a corrupted one)

Here you can find two example, https://www.mediafire.com/?ukgavha2bqgtf5g one is taken from a video shooted a few days ago and the other from a test that I've done today while trying to understand the whole stuff.



What could be the problem?  :-[


My specs:
QuoteMacBook Pro Retina, Mid 2012
2,3 GHz Intel Core i7
8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M 1024 MB
OS X 10.9.5 (13F34)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 24, 2014, 07:44:28 PM
Quote from: togg on October 24, 2014, 06:36:26 PM
I'm having a big issue.
When I convert to dng or watch my raw file taken with differents cards and differents resolutions in MlRawViewer 1.3.3 I get a lot of black/corrupted frame. If I convert the raw file with rawmagic everything goes fine. If I try to use 1.2.3 the conversion stop at the first black frame (I haven't tested with a corrupted one)

Here you can find two example, https://www.mediafire.com/?ukgavha2bqgtf5g one is taken from a video shooted a few days ago and the other from a test that I've done today while trying to understand the whole stuff.

What could be the problem?  :-[

My specs:


I checked the black frame DNG, and there is nothing wrong with it. Apart from being black.

MlRawViewer should insert black frames when it thinks there is a frame missing from the original file (to keep audio sync correct).

The question here for me is whether MlRawViewer is making a mistake, and not finding a frame that is there in the file, or if other tools are just masking missing frames in a different way, e.g. skipping them or duplicating previous frames. But I can't answer that without having the original raw file to check.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 24, 2014, 08:14:38 PM
I had think of that and checked if rawmagic just duplicate a frame but no. And sadly the corrupted one is there to prove the problem :(
But I knew you would need a raw file, it will take a little bit to upload it since it needs to be one minute long.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 24, 2014, 09:12:30 PM
I ran into a similar situation regarding a black frame would pop out of nowhere on some of my .Mov exports whereas I know from the original raw file that there is no missing frames. I ran it twice or three times and I think the black frame would pop up in different timeframe in each export.

Hope this makes sense... But then again sometimes I won't get them.

Will do some more troubleshooting at work today in order to confirm this.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 24, 2014, 11:32:50 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on October 24, 2014, 09:12:30 PM
I ran into a similar situation regarding a black frame would pop out of nowhere on some of my .Mov exports whereas I know from the original raw file that there is no missing frames. I ran it twice or three times and I think the black frame would pop up in different timeframe in each export.

Hope this makes sense... But then again sometimes I won't get them.

Will do some more troubleshooting at work today in order to confirm this.


Which camera are you using and which operating system?
In my case the black/corrupted frames are already visible when whatching the RAW file via mlrawviewer.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: TKez on October 25, 2014, 02:52:21 AM
@Andy600 thanks. I have a basic understanding of what log does, except the clog/logc ei stuff but thanks for laying it out for me. With regard to the exposure slider in Mlrv, it's a handy tool if exposure wasn't set properly when shooting but I try to make a point of not to using it. I also see the most efficient workflow being dragging a bunch of MLVs onto MLRV to batch them all with the current gamma curve which means no chance to mess with it per clip!
@baldand: any chance of drag and drop batch functionality coming soon?
Being able to fix WB is also nice, if we ever get quick look thumbnails we could identify any to leave out of the batch and add to the queue separately with tweaked WB.

My layman's view of the workflow concept is this. rec709 h264 out of the camera suffers 3 main issues.
1. Discarded detail and compression artifacts due to h.264
3. Major loss of chroma information due to 4:2:0
2. Highlight and shadow information beyond the white and black points are clipped and non recoverable

The prores 4444 codec fixes the first 2, and if the 14bits are scaled(compressed) down to 10bit (or 12 with XQ), that fixes #3. We loose some bits, but the gamma curve prioritises the most useful parts of the information so we retain more bits where we need them.
Of course if we view the entire sensor data compressed like this, it's going to look extremely flat, but we can use a 3d LUT to expand the range back to rec709 etc. to view it as it would have looked straight from the camera.
The important part being that this LUT be applied at the end of the processing pipeline so we still have all that highlight and shadow info to play with before it gets clipped again by the LUT.

The attractive thing about the visionLog curve is that the 3D output LUT could be one of their Osiris film LUTs and we don't need to go through another lossy input LUT step.

Am I on the right track here? The BMD color space fits in there somewhere but I'm not sure I understand where and why:)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 25, 2014, 09:26:18 AM
Quote from: togg on October 24, 2014, 11:32:50 PM

Which camera are you using and which operating system?
In my case the black/corrupted frames are already visible when whatching the RAW file via mlrawviewer.
This was from the 5D3... Mavericks 10.9.5... In my case it does not show any black/corrupted files in my viewer on MLRV 1.3.3.

Here's the reel to see how I feel...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 25, 2014, 09:55:30 AM
Good news. I've found the bug that was causing black frames in spanning RAW files. I wasn't correctly reassembling the frames cut across two files. Fix is now in git and will be included in 1.3.4 build in a few days.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 25, 2014, 11:04:41 AM
excellent find @baldand!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on October 25, 2014, 11:50:28 AM
@Baldand

I´m using 5D III 1920x1080 25P and OSX

a)  - Is normal than version 1.2.3 export a Raw file in DNG files at 3Gb and version 1.3.3  just 1,3 GB?
I´ve note that each DNG before was 4,2 MB and now around 1.2 !



b) - If this is normal, Have I lost too much quality?

c) If this is normal, and the quality is the same, can I reduce all my DNGs - without RAW files - to the new compressed files?


Thanks!

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 25, 2014, 01:05:42 PM
Quote from: baldand on October 25, 2014, 09:55:30 AM
Good news. I've found the bug that was causing black frames in spanning RAW files. I wasn't correctly reassembling the frames cut across two files. Fix is now in git and will be included in 1.3.4 build in a few days.

Great news!
Quote from: budafilms on October 25, 2014, 11:50:28 AM
@Baldand

I´m using 5D III 1920x1080 25P and OSX

a)  - Is normal than version 1.2.3 export a Raw file in DNG files at 3Gb and version 1.3.3  just 1,3 GB?
I´ve note that each DNG before was 4,2 MB and now around 1.2 !



b) - If this is normal, Have I lost too much quality?

c) If this is normal, and the quality is the same, can I reduce all my DNGs - without RAW files - to the new compressed files?


Thanks!



1) yes, they're lossless dng.
2) none, it's a compression without loss of quality.
3) yes you can, I don't know if the best option is to use mlrawviewer again or some adobe product.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 25, 2014, 01:15:38 PM
Quote from: budafilms on October 25, 2014, 11:50:28 AM
@Baldand

I´m using 5D III 1920x1080 25P and OSX

a)  - Is normal than version 1.2.3 export a Raw file in DNG files at 3Gb and version 1.3.3  just 1,3 GB?
I´ve note that each DNG before was 4,2 MB and now around 1.2 !



b) - If this is normal, Have I lost too much quality?

c) If this is normal, and the quality is the same, can I reduce all my DNGs - without RAW files - to the new compressed files?


Thanks!



Lossless jpeg typically compresses to around 50-60% of the original (14bit) size. The old dng export was actually adding 2 bits per pixel (14 to 16) so the ratio is better compared to those.

Your numbers sound quite small, bit it depends on content. If you have lots of blurred/out of focus content, the compression will work better.

I wouldn't recommend deleting original RAW or MLV files. Later I hope that MLV will support also lossless jpeg for archiving.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 26, 2014, 10:39:33 PM
MlRawViewer 1.3.4 now available

Get it from the downloads page: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads)

This should behave almost the same as 1.3.3 with a couple of small changes:

- Fixes a bug with handling spanning RAW files. Previously frames spread across two files were treated as missing frames. They should now be reconstructured correctly.
- Adds a feature to hide the overlay. Press Shift-TAB to hide the overlay even while paused, and Shift-TAB again to show it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on October 26, 2014, 10:50:06 PM
You rock Baldand! Any chance MlRawViewer could display the chosen color temperature in degrees Kelvin with G/M shift in future builds? Obviously not a crucial addition but it could be very useful for some!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: edge11 on October 27, 2014, 05:55:16 AM
650d user here. Does this have Chromasoothing or any way to deal with the pink dot issue?
If not would it be possible to integrate it?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 27, 2014, 06:19:47 AM
Currently rendering on MLRV 1.3.4 with 43 MLV's to .MOV's. Exported all with current setting 'press C' looking forward to the results as soon as I get back to work in the AM...

Thanks again @baldand for your eagerness w the updates!   :)

BTW -- 'shift-tab' is the $#!t! Love it!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 27, 2014, 07:29:10 AM
Quote from: edge11 on October 27, 2014, 05:55:16 AM
650d user here. Does this have Chromasoothing or any way to deal with the pink dot issue?
If not would it be possible to integrate it?

There is a pre-processing step which can suppress some of the pink dots as part of the stripe correction.
However, it's not really fully suited to the needs of "pink dot cameras". It would really need a calibration step to train it with e.g. a defocused images, and then reuse that training data. At the moment it just tries to find that data from each scene. So, YMMV.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on October 27, 2014, 08:28:41 AM
@baldand

I was testing Silent Module in full Resolution. Just for fun, I use only video.
As I don't use Photoshop, the option in my Mac was open the file with MLviewer. And I think the possibility to add a jpeg exportation for one frame.
I'm not sure if this is very complicated. But open the possibility to edit with a lot of software. This MLV viewer pre processing is very usefull for photographers!

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 27, 2014, 10:13:49 AM
hide the overlays is really useful, thanks :) I will test and hoping that bad frames are gone!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: lexle on October 27, 2014, 10:57:12 AM
Hi baldand.

i wanted to let you know that now with the 1.3.3 everything is fine again and i don´t have black frames in there (so my MLVs are fine). Additionally to the black frames i couldn´t open some MLVs with the old version.
thanks for the good work!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 77cats on October 27, 2014, 09:49:36 PM
A little of topic but... Another user and I had a problem with the file association on Windows. I found the problem and the solution here:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-files/problems-with-file-association-in-windows-7-64-bit/8a84fcec-22df-4942-8e35-d98dbe96e327
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on October 28, 2014, 04:52:04 AM
Quote from: baldand on October 26, 2014, 10:39:33 PM
MlRawViewer 1.3.4 now available

Get it from the downloads page: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads)

This should behave almost the same as 1.3.3 with a couple of small changes:

- Fixes a bug with handling spanning RAW files. Previously frames spread across two files were treated as missing frames. They should now be reconstructured correctly.
- Adds a feature to hide the overlay. Press Shift-TAB to hide the overlay even while paused, and Shift-TAB again to show it.

Thank you very much! \o/

Btw, this is a bit out of the way, but would it have any performance advantage on 64 bit systems to run a 64 bit version of this? If it is, would be nice to have a 64 bit version of this too. :3

Thanks again
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 28, 2014, 06:26:49 AM
Quote from: feureau on October 28, 2014, 04:52:04 AM
Btw, this is a bit out of the way, but would it have any performance advantage on 64 bit systems to run a 64 bit version of this? If it is, would be nice to have a 64 bit version of this too. :3

I don't know for sure, but I somehow doubt it would make much difference performance-wise since most work is done on the GPU, and the only CPU heavy bit (HQ demosaicing) is mostly SSE code anyway.

Anyway, the source code is available from https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/overview (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/overview) so someone is welcome to try it out making a build with a 64bit python windows runtime and measure if there is any speed advantage.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on October 28, 2014, 11:09:20 AM
Quote from: baldand on October 26, 2014, 10:39:33 PM
MlRawViewer 1.3.4 now available

- Adds a feature to hide the overlay. Press Shift-TAB to hide the overlay even while paused, and Shift-TAB again to show it.

Thank you so much @Baldand for adding this feature so fast.
Works great.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: stevethornton on October 28, 2014, 02:51:36 PM
Where should I post a crash report?

Thanks!

ST
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on October 28, 2014, 03:24:52 PM
All good in the bad frame field :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on October 28, 2014, 04:13:48 PM
Quote from: stevethornton on October 28, 2014, 02:51:36 PM
Where should I post a crash report?

Thanks!

ST

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues)

Please provide as much detail as possible, including the mlrawviewer.log file and any system crash log.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: TKez on October 29, 2014, 12:00:42 PM
Would it be easy to add a batch feature so we could drag multiple items and have them added to the queue with the current settings?

EDIT: and draggable to the dock icon swell as the window? XLD is a great utility for transcoding audio. i just drag a bunch of AIFFs on the dock icon and Apple Lossless versions magically pop up on my desktop. Same with Compressor droplets. Great for speedy workflows!

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tuckertota on October 29, 2014, 11:24:50 PM
@TequilaKez If you press C, it will process all the MLV files in the same folder as the one you loaded.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: TKez on October 30, 2014, 12:38:18 PM
Quote@TequilaKez If you press C, it will process all the MLV files in the same folder as the one you loaded.

Damn it, it was there! I looked it over a few times but i guess i was scanning for the word batch or something.
That's great.
Still, the droplet like functionality would be even better:)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on November 01, 2014, 10:22:51 PM
Would it be possible to include a saturation control much like the exposure control? This could be very useful.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 04, 2014, 12:50:43 PM
VERY UNSTABLE NEW VERSION 1.4.0 NEEDS EARLY TESTING

I have made builds of the bleeding edge MlRawViewer code as version 1.4.0, available from the usual place: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads)

I do not recommend that you try these unless you are ready to experience many new bugs and give me detailed reports about them.

It has a major change from the previous releases. The old external file dialogs have been replaced by an integrated browser view. This affects choosing files, LUTs, and the export directory.

The browser can be operated with keys or mouse. Mouse operation should be quite obvious. Keyboard shortcuts are Shift to go up a folder, Enter to enter a folder or choose a file and Backspace to close the browser. Otherwise cursor keys move the focus.

To enter the browser from the normal viewer, click the metadata window, or press Backspace.

If you run MlRawViewer with no file, it will start in the browser.

I'm particularly interested to hear reports about how it behaves for you when you go up to the root folder e.g. to change disks. It tries to scan the file tree for candidate files so it does not show folders which do not contain anything relevant. But that approach may be too slow to use in practice - let me know what you think.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 04, 2014, 02:09:54 PM
hello baland!

thank you for your work, will try it out tomorrow. finally the browser is here :=)

however, have you also  had time to integrate an optimized vertical stripes correction code for canon 5d mk3? that would be an important step forward. (im my direction :))

thx swinxx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 04, 2014, 03:43:38 PM
Quote from: swinxx on November 04, 2014, 02:09:54 PM
however, have you also  had time to integrate an optimized vertical stripes correction code for canon 5d mk3? that would be an important step forward. (im my direction :))

No.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 04, 2014, 03:46:32 PM
For anyone testing 1.4.0:

After trying it, even if you don't have any problems, please write a short report here describing your environment and what features you tested.

This will greatly speed up the process to stabilise the 1.4.x series and the new browser feature.

Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on November 04, 2014, 04:54:36 PM
I'll try to help and testing, don't know when. I've a loooot of raw files to convert  :'(
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kgv5 on November 04, 2014, 07:04:27 PM
Great, so lets start testing  :)

Works fine for now. Win 7 64bit, luts are changing nice and fast :) Had some problems in the beginning, is the app make some disks "scanning" or so? It was quite unresponsive for a couple of start ups, now seems good.
Could you please add "back to the list" (backspace) icon? (for the mouse interface)?

What is the function of the  huge X in the interface? To quit the app? Normally it works in the beginning but when some clip was played back the "X" doesnt seem to work anymore, doesnt swith the app off and just comes back to the last played clip.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on November 04, 2014, 07:42:09 PM
Nice one Andrew! I,m on a macbook pro retina 15 inch 2.6 ghz 16gb ram.
Big thumbs up for a really good thumbviewer. Super smooth using backspace and enter back and forth together with arrows. Worked all the time without crashes. It also builds up very fast. I entered a folder with a lot of clips. They popped up within 5 seconds.
Best way to get to a folder, lets say external drive is by drag drop a file from directory and the start using backspace and enter. Searching through the folder with w or mouse cursor not so intuitive. Is there only one direction, up in folder tree?
When fiddling around searching files within the app it froze occasionally, got stuck. Hard to explain exactly what but when pressing arrow going up caused it. Not very intuitive selecting an export folder but it worked.
Also the letters å. ä, ö can,t be used with the app.
An option to create a folder is welcome.
Luts worked fine, no problems at all when tested.
Don,t know if relevant. Davinci and audio don,t merge.
Ok, been at work all day but huge thanks again. Thumbs viewer is a plus 10! Let me know if I could do something else.

Oh, funky that the app opens raw dng still photos. Good still picture viewer as well.
Funky thumb colors because of dual iso I guess.

/D

some pics

(http://s12.postimg.org/h3zqboa7d/Screen_Shot_2014_11_04_at_19_13_42.png) (http://postimg.org/image/h3zqboa7d/)

(http://s12.postimg.org/e8mn4t67d/Screen_Shot_2014_11_04_at_19_15_27.png) (http://postimg.org/image/e8mn4t67d/)

(http://s12.postimg.org/uyy0u54mh/Screen_Shot_2014_11_04_at_19_21_04.png) (http://postimg.org/image/uyy0u54mh/)

(http://s27.postimg.org/tmf6lvagv/Screen_Shot_2014_11_04_at_19_44_13.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tmf6lvagv/)

folder containing å,ä,ö shows thumbs but can,t be played. Have to rename the folder.

(http://s12.postimg.org/xvl1ufag9/Screen_Shot_2014_11_04_at_19_28_50.png) (http://postimg.org/image/xvl1ufag9/)

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dustatron on November 04, 2014, 11:28:05 PM
When hitting 'c' to ad all the files in a folder to the que the custom settings are not auto added to the all the files in the list any more.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MA Visuals on November 05, 2014, 05:08:09 AM
Nice job on 1.4.  Great to have a browser!  Generally speaking, everything seems to working, but I haven't had to chance to really test properly yet.  The only thing I noticed is that using the backspace key works fine when I want to leave the viewer and go back the browser.  But I find that if you are in the browser, the backspace key often causes MLRawViewer to exit completely (as if I had hit the escape key to exit).  I'm not sure how the backspace key was intended to work when in the browser, but I found myself dumped out of the app quite often due to hitting the backspace key when in Browrer mode.  I also found a number of instances where it appeared to hang when browsing up the directory tree near the root where all the drive would be visible.  I'm guessing that it is attempting to scan for raw/dng candidates but I'm not sure.  I will need to test more to give more thorough observations.  Running Windows 7, nVidia Geoforce GTX 560M.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 05, 2014, 05:46:42 AM
Thanks @baldand for the exclusive update on 1.4.0 and will definitely test/play with it tonight after work as soon as I get home...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on November 05, 2014, 10:28:05 AM
Thanks @Baldand,

File thumb is a huge progress,

macbook air osx 10.9.3

- seems like browser loses his way a bit when trying to move thru volumes and disks. Under Macintosh HD it shows "Users" and "Volumes" as subfolders, Under "Volumes" it shows "new volume" which is my external Hd.

- feels a little bugy, get stuck or work slow now and then.

Beside that, file browser works great here.

- mouse cursor disappear now and then when i resize window


Thanks,
David.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on November 05, 2014, 03:56:29 PM
Great advances, Baldand!

Trying this out with Windows 7 x64. Clicked the up arrow to get to "My Computer" to switch drives. Program froze after reaching C:\ and clicking the up arrow. It goes up after a few minutes.  But moving between folders is sometimes painfully slow. When exporting a footage, it asks for an output folder. It keeps opening a folder if I pick a folder. How do I pick one? Does [enter] select the current folder or the highlighted one?

Btw, any plans to implement the export all DNG files into a single folder option? And setting ProRes quality?

EDIT: Completed export and I can't find my output. :( This is confusing...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 05, 2014, 05:28:05 PM
Thanks all for the testing and detailed feedback about 1.4.0. It's very helpful.

@all, regarding the slowness when going towards the root directories. I will try to find a good solution that lets me limit the number of shown folders to just the relevant ones but without making the UI slow/unresponsive as it is now.

@MAVisuals, @kgv5 maybe it would help you to think of the browser as a temporary dialog on top of the viewer. The X (or BACKSPACE) key closes the browser and returns to the viewer. But when the app is launched without a file, when the browser closes without selection something, there is nothing to view, hence the app is closed. Maybe I can do something visually to make more explicit this kind of "mental model" for the UI.

@Danne, @feureau I agree the export folder is not so intuitive due to lack of a way to "choose" a final folder. In fact the model here is continuous choice - every time you navigate you have changed the folder, so when you close the browser with X or BACKSPACE, it is set to use the folder you were last viewing. In other words, there is no "cancel" option. This is sadly a bit opposite to the behaviour in the file choosing modes.

@Danne, sorry for the repeated failures with accented characters. I will try to fix it (again)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gohai on November 05, 2014, 07:56:11 PM
Hello @Baldand and all,

First: thanks for this tool, greatly appreciated!

I wanted to ask about a crash issue I am having with a 4.29 GB RAW file that I recorded with a 5D3.123, running the latest nightly from August 7. While all my other files work just fine this one crashed with the current MlRawViewer version at the time, and still with the latest (on OS X 10.9.4). Any way for me to make it work, things to try etc..?

Thanks
Gottfried


Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libglfw3.dylib                0x00000001149e596f glfwSetWindowRefreshCallback + 79
1   _ctypes.so                    0x00000001129edfb7 ffi_call_unix64 + 79
2   _ctypes.so                    0x00000001129ee7e9 ffi_call + 821
3   _ctypes.so                    0x00000001129e9e2c _ctypes_callproc + 784
4   _ctypes.so                    0x00000001129e42c8 PyCFuncPtr_call + 1125
5   Python                        0x000000010eece018 PyObject_Call + 99
6   Python                        0x000000010ef4a90d PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 13138
7   Python                        0x000000010ef4742a PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1608
8   Python                        0x000000010ef4dac8 fast_function + 295
9   Python                        0x000000010ef4a577 PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 12220
10  Python                        0x000000010ef4da61 fast_function + 192
11  Python                        0x000000010ef4a577 PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 12220
12  Python                        0x000000010ef4742a PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1608
13  Python                        0x000000010eeebfcb function_call + 349
14  Python                        0x000000010eece018 PyObject_Call + 99
15  Python                        0x000000010ef4a27b PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 11456
16  Python                        0x000000010ef4742a PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1608
17  Python                        0x000000010eeebfcb function_call + 349
18  Python                        0x000000010eece018 PyObject_Call + 99
19  Python                        0x000000010eed8ddd instancemethod_call + 174
20  Python                        0x000000010eece018 PyObject_Call + 99
21  Python                        0x000000010ef14da2 slot_tp_init + 64
22  Python                        0x000000010ef106fb type_call + 182
23  Python                        0x000000010eece018 PyObject_Call + 99
24  Python                        0x000000010ef4a90d PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 13138
25  Python                        0x000000010ef4da61 fast_function + 192
26  Python                        0x000000010ef4a577 PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 12220
27  Python                        0x000000010ef4742a PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1608
28  Python                        0x000000010ef46ddc PyEval_EvalCode + 54
29  Python                        0x000000010ef66750 run_mod + 53
30  Python                        0x000000010ef6690d PyRun_StringFlags + 109
31  Python                        0x000000010ef66861 PyRun_SimpleStringFlags + 69
32  mlrawviewer                    0x000000010e422b2c 0x10e421000 + 6956
33  mlrawviewer                    0x000000010e436b78 0x10e421000 + 88952
34  mlrawviewer                    0x000000010e422454 0x10e421000 + 5204
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gohai on November 05, 2014, 07:57:16 PM
Forgot to say: with "latest", I meant 1.3.3. This is also where the trace is taken from.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 05, 2014, 08:02:38 PM
Quote from: gohai on November 05, 2014, 07:57:16 PM
Forgot to say: with "latest", I meant 1.3.3. This is also where the trace is taken from.

Could you test with 1.3.4 as well and verify it still happens there? That had some fixes for .RAW files.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: chmee on November 05, 2014, 08:26:32 PM
kudos @baldand :D once again you realized a thing i wanted to code as well :)

regards chmee
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 05, 2014, 09:52:34 PM
@baland:
the app is getting really big - in terms of features :)
would it be possible to adapt the dng meta tags for conforming with davinci resolve (audio and video files in one folder seen as one movie file)
that would be also a major step forward, davinci resolve is great and free. i think more and more peolpe will start working with that program... like me.
mlvfs is now compatible with resolve and now it is a breeze to work with those converted files.

the other thing is the 5dmk3 optimized vertical stripes correction code. i know that i have asked you before and i hope that you will implement it in one of the next updates.. sadly i have seen too many stripes in my last shots converted with mlrawviewer, with mlvfs all the stripes were gone, so i know that it could be optimized for 5d mk3 (a1ex told me he would help out)

best regards and thank you a lot. swinxx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 05, 2014, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: chmee on November 05, 2014, 08:26:32 PM
kudos @baldand :D once again you realized a thing i wanted to code as well :)
regards chmee

Thanks/Sorry!

Quote from: swinxx on November 05, 2014, 09:52:34 PM
mlvfs is now compatible with resolve and now it is a breeze to work with those converted files.
...with mlvfs all the stripes were gone

It's really great that MLVFS is doing such a good job with the MLV->DNG->Resolve/Premiere path.

I will probably recommend people to use that for DNG export rather than MlRawViewer, and instead try to focus on improving viewing/reviewing use cases, and maybe something else.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 05, 2014, 10:23:41 PM
@baland

sorry, i dont get it right.
why dont realize that resolve thing with mlrawviewer.. it exports dngs, so why it should not convert resolve conform dngs?
+1 for that

just my 2 cents
best wishes
swinxx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: KurtAugust on November 06, 2014, 12:08:21 AM
1.4.0 on OS X Mavericks 10.9.2. Works well. Navigator makes life easier! I did need to switch to the readme file quite often to refresh stuff as it has been a while since I filmed in MLV. But it only takes 10 minutes to get used to the style of the GUI.

Anyway, most stuff works for now, except the C key (add all files in folder to render queue). Needed to switch back to 1.3.4 for that.
Nice that working with a new version doesn't reset export custom settings (prores 422 hq).

Only trouble with both versions are some broken mlv files (.mlv .m01 .m02 etc). No playblack, mrx creation going to 150 or 200% and playback hangs. But export to DNG works with them. EDIT: Today it does work. File browser makes it easy to add files to render queue manually. Love it! http://www.blog.kurtaugustyns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/mlrawviewer.jpg
Screenshot of the indexing at 200%


PS: File browser is an incredible and superfast tool to go through a day's rushes and e.g. picking out dual iso files. Thank you so much! And I thought you wouldn't be working on this for a while!

Edited to add data.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gohai on November 06, 2014, 09:36:15 AM
@baldand 1.4.0 still crashes with my file.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 07, 2014, 06:47:29 PM
hello

@baland:

i opened the program, was in a strange folder..? which one is the root? i think where the program will be launched..
ok then i pushed some buttons.. suddenly there was no folder only the empty window..
and now every time i start mlrawviewer i have it opened without any folder structure in the window..?
puh. strange.
thx.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 07, 2014, 06:55:21 PM
Can you open the app with an existing MLV file so it doesn't go to the browser first? Then open the browser. It should be in the same folder as the file.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 08, 2014, 03:22:54 PM
yes, thank you.
it works now. this is awesome..

anyway i would recommend some additional features (which would make the selection and working process much more easier :)):

1. after putting a file in the queue, mark it as selected in the browser.. this would be great. perhaps you could also mark it as small red line (the distance from the in and out points.. (like in the normal view)
2. after selected a new wb, update thumbnail in browser.
more to follow..


greets. swinxx


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on November 08, 2014, 05:39:34 PM
A little thought. Would it be possible to make the fonts retina friendly? It should be really easy, I remember that in the first days of retina mbp people used an app called "retinalizer" to change in one click the fonts on firefox, I still have it but sadly it also reduce the picture size.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldavenger on November 09, 2014, 03:38:06 AM
Would it be possible to have the option of crop overlays, so for example you could view 16:9 footage with black bars overlaid so that you get the 2.35:1 aspect ratio?  It would save having to go into Davinci to view the footage like so.

Once again, many thanks for this great piece of software!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 09, 2014, 10:37:14 PM
MlRawViewer 1.4.1 is now available for testing from https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads)

The same warnings as for 1.4.0 apply. Don't expect this to be bug free.

Major changes since 1.4.0:
- Browser should be much more responsive when browsing root dirs
- Folders show number of files and a selection of thumbnails they contain
- Thumbnails use set white balance & exposure, and update again after files are viewed
- J/K keys can be used to jump quickly to sibling directories in Browser
- Fixed crash when opening files with paths containing non-ASCII characters
- Various performance improvements
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 09, 2014, 10:37:25 PM
@baland
i have just seen that mlrawviewer 1.4.1 is waiting in the wings :) GREAT!

however, as i use 1.4.0 on mac, i wanna ask if you could also turn the mouse scrolling behavior in the browser to be conform for mac. scrolling down on the mouse is up on the mac and vice versa.
the legacy style is kind of irritating.

Thx.

Greets swinxx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on November 09, 2014, 11:10:01 PM
Simply genius. Complete overview in a matter of seconds. Gotta play around some more. So good.
Non-ASCII character folders confirmed working :)

(http://s8.postimg.org/6kh9ypyk1/Screen_Shot_2014_11_09_at_23_13_07.png) (http://postimg.org/image/6kh9ypyk1/)

(http://s8.postimg.org/ftjg8u7g1/Screen_Shot_2014_11_09_at_23_13_39.png) (http://postimg.org/image/ftjg8u7g1/)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 09, 2014, 11:36:42 PM
hahaha.. brilliantly solved. i like the motion in the folder previews :)
also the nice info about the number of movies in the folders..
i like the style,

suggestions:
- perhaps it is possible to add a button for leaving the folder in the hierarchy. (Like /..) e.g. from c:/MLV/Files1 to c:/MLV - would be great because then there is no need for searching the right keystroke.
- the other suggestions in my preview post
- 5dmk3 vs problem: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ygkx1t0jh5uzkhj/Screenshot%202014-11-09%2023.18.41.png?dl=0 (i know that you know it, but i wanna mention it here anyway, cause material recorded with a 5d mk3 suffers from banding)
- when exporting a file (in and outpoints selected) the audio and video files are not linked in resolve (not shown as one file like mlvfs)
- change the shortcut "S" for speed destretch, and "A" for anamorphic destretch. that would be sort of logical to remember
- i know that the image quality from mlrawviewer is made for accurate playback with the player, but perhaps add another option for "Q" for rendered quality preview.. that would also be nice. the preview quality in the viewer is just so different. sometimes you wanna see the real deal :)

all in all, great great great enhancements :=)

Big Thumbs up!!
Greets. swinxx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on November 10, 2014, 07:14:50 AM
There, s high quality preview when you press the triangle symbol. Not all 5D mark 3 suffers from banding (mine for example). I reckon it is not easily fixed. Cool stuff Andrew.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 10, 2014, 07:26:53 AM
Quote from: swinxx on November 09, 2014, 11:36:42 PM
- perhaps it is possible to add a button for leaving the folder in the hierarchy. (Like /..) e.g. from c:/MLV/Files1 to c:/MLV - would be great because then there is no need for searching the right keystroke.

There is an up arrow icon (button) next to the filename which does that - same as shift key
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 10, 2014, 08:44:22 AM
Ah. Thank you. Have not seen it yesterday. Baland -> Great
Best wishes, swinxx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 10, 2014, 10:24:31 AM
Again, Andrew, You have definitely blown the fish out of the water on this remarkable enhancement to this app and It just keeps getting better.

I enjoy getting the complete previews of thumbnails in matter of seconds. THUMBS up on this one!

I also notice a speed increase on loading the MLV/RAW files right before it starts to play ( even on my old macbook pro... NICE! )

Mouse cursor can sometimes disappears randomly at times when moving around ( not a big deal to me ) since it's easier to navigate through w key buttons.  ;D

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7506/15753471001_0f5b383bbc_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q15E5Z)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7468/15135942593_6c39fc1207_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/p4vEpt)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3947/15755351135_9cfb5bb11e_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q1fhZ6)

Just got home from a long day at work and am off tomorrow... so I'll give out more details after playing around with it some more then!

Thanks again!

SJ
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 10, 2014, 02:33:49 PM
@baland
i have found some strange behavior with some old dng files.. when i put them into mlrawviewer and activate vs corr, the highlights get pink.
here is one dng where this happens:
https://copy.com/s8Nei446tYxr69fS

greets swinxx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on November 10, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
I'm having pink highlights too, but Resolve recovered it so all seems fine.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 10, 2014, 07:23:10 PM
Does anyone else have comments or feedback about the browser in 1.4.1? Is it working better than 1.4.0 did?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 10, 2014, 08:00:45 PM
@baldand -- it is definitely working slightly better regarding the browser in 1.4.1 than 1.4.0 however I also ran into something odd by mistake when I tried to relocate a new target for export...I kept hitting the shift button to back up to the point where now it shows just blank... not sure how to get out of it or select a new target location. Since I cannot keep pressing 'shift' since it's basically a 'dead end' if that make sense -- thoughts?
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7477/15760471222_24972ee348_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/q1Gx1s)

Just in case you were curious... browser seems to be responding well as far as Im concerned...
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3945/15573531038_4c15461906_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pJbqcQ)

I'm just currently trying to get my 'Target Location' back (after pressing 'W') since it just seems like I put myself into a corner and I can't go anywhere else only because I accidentally kept pressing the 'shift' button to try and get into a new location... and now I am unable to export anything until I get this resolved.

Thanks again for your repaid dedication and eagerness in keeping this app up to date!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on November 10, 2014, 10:25:43 PM
Some more feedback. This works for me.
Drag folder or file onto the app and it reveals all files. Hit enter on one of the files and the hit W, then drag the export location folder to the app and it will set the dragged folder as the output folder.
Is the key C for exporting all not suppose to work in this beta yet? Tried but nothing.

The drag folder to get a target folder works. Would it be an idea to implement an export button which lets you select an output as before? Maybe hard to mix this with current thumbnail flow?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 10, 2014, 10:44:38 PM
Sorry about the export folders bug. I have a fix for this now which will be included in 1.4.2, but for now you will have to use the drag-folder workaround found by @danne (nice one!)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 11, 2014, 08:51:32 AM
Quote from: Danne on November 10, 2014, 10:25:43 PM
Some more feedback. This works for me.
Drag folder or file onto the app and it reveals all files. Hit enter on one of the files and the hit W, then drag the export location folder to the app and it will set the dragged folder as the output folder.
Is the key C for exporting all not suppose to work in this beta yet? Tried but nothing.

The drag folder to get a target folder works. Would it be an idea to implement an export button which lets you select an output as before? Maybe hard to mix this with current thumbnail flow?
Excellent find @danne -- Been itching to try and play with this app all day today but was away from home. Definitely wasn't easy dealing with that.. haha but yes that works for now and thanks again for your never-ending efforts in finding the loopholes as always as well as to @baldand for your amazing work on this!

Heck I would pay $$ if it were for sale on the app store...

One day you'll do just that!

;)

**some more feedbacks**

I believe this already has been discussed in previous versions but felt it was worth to take note on it... whenever I change the anamorphic aspects (toggle A or S) it affects all the other files and I thought it used to be able to adjust them individually without having this issue -- is this new or an old bug that has not yet been fixed? NOT a big deal (can be annoying at times) and can work around it by exporting individually prior to making the next adjustments within the next file.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 5DanielMIII on November 11, 2014, 04:01:29 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on November 11, 2014, 08:51:32 AM

Heck I would pay $$ if it were for sale on the app store...

One day you'll do just that!


No problem, everyone can donate $$$ TODAY! To @baldand & the MLcrew ;-) No app store needed..
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DavidSh on November 11, 2014, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: 5DanielMIII on November 11, 2014, 04:01:29 PM
No problem, everyone can donate $$$ TODAY! To @bladand & the MLcrew ;-) No app store needed..
How?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 5DanielMIII on November 11, 2014, 07:24:24 PM
I guess http://www.magiclantern.fm/index.html
On the very bottom of that homepage there is a bitcoin donation tab.

And I am not 10000% sure about @baldand, but a lot of people have paypal etc, anyone can donate thru that.
But the "Money theme" has been discussed a lot here on the forums, and the main idea is that we all help out developing and test new updates=D
Donating hours is good too =)

Can´t remember if it says somewhere in this thread about $$$, but, maybe @baldand will let us know if there is a way to donate..

And yes I agree, this tool is amazing!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on November 11, 2014, 10:31:19 PM
I agree that it's an amazing app. Without it the workflow that I'm using would be unimaginable.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tonybeccar on November 12, 2014, 05:22:10 AM
Hi!!

Amazing changes to the program, wow, this is REALLY handy now! :)

I have a question:

I am shooting a short film this weekend in 5D Mark III MLV... and I was wondering what was the best way to have SMOOTH playback on set. What kind of computer / mac do I need? I have a macbook air i5 with no graphics card and the playback is choppy, I have a 27" i7 imac with graphics card and the playback is choppy. Am I doing something wrong? Graphics card are involved in the previewing part of the software? DO I need CUDA enabled?

Is anyone acheiving smooth proper playback? What computer specs would you recommend?

I understand there have been improvements in mlv_playback in camera but for now not something usable right? We will have 3 monitors on set.

Thanks for the help and I'd appreciate comments!
Cheers!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on November 12, 2014, 06:06:37 AM
I thought the playback speed was more dependent of HDD speed than anything..

I put MLrawviewer on my mother in laws computer... yes.. And it played 1920x1080 without any issues.

had 2 gig ram

Integraded gfx card

Don't know if it even had a CPU ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 12, 2014, 06:51:34 AM
If you are trying to playback direct from CF card, you should check the read speed you are getting and confirm that it is higher than the bitrate of the file.

For example, my KB64GB cards can write 70+MB/s in camera, but for some reason they only read back with my card reader at 60MB/s, so I can never get perfectly smooth playback straight from card

If you have verified the read speed and it should be good enough. then other things to try are:

1. Disable the histogram by clicking on it
2. Turn off the vertical stripe correction
3. Remove all 1D and 3D LUTs

Finally, you can guarantee seeing every frame (no skipping) at a lower frame rate by changing out of the default drop-frame mode. Click the clock icon to a "frame" or press F.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 12, 2014, 08:49:39 AM
Quote from: tonybeccar on November 12, 2014, 05:22:10 AM

Is anyone acheiving smooth proper playback? What computer specs would you recommend?

I understand there have been improvements in mlv_playback in camera but for now not something usable right? We will have 3 monitors on set.

Thanks for the help and I'd appreciate comments!
Cheers!

@tonybeccar -- I'm currently running this app on my 2006 macbook pro (2.4 ghz Intel Core 2 Duo w 6gb ram along w a NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT 256 MB graphic card which isn't the best in the market these days anymore) and the playback speed is still pretty neat actually besides the fact that if I have 'Quality Preview Debayering' enabled it would have a bit of a choppy type of playback otherwise...is that you were referring to earlier -- if I'm not wrong?

ALSO I would rather offload the files off from a card into HD or external HD for smoother playbacks (unless you have fast cards -- for me on this macbook pro I can have a pretty decent playback with KB 128gb 1066x and Lexus 32gb 1000x as well as Sandisk Extreme Pro 32gb 1000x) hope this helps.

SJ
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 12, 2014, 10:21:55 AM
**More Feedbacks**

Also when trying to add more Luts (Shift + L) and its rather more difficult to add more than one file at once (Command + A or even with cursor + shift) still doesn't work as it previously did in 1.3.4...

Perhaps implement the older version of adding LUTS (VERSION 1.3.4) just for the adding LUTS feature unless you have something else under your sleeves that I don't know of?

Thanks again @baldand  8)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 12, 2014, 10:38:47 AM
Just click all the luts you want and they are immediately imported (shown by dimming)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 5DanielMIII on November 12, 2014, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: tonybeccar on November 12, 2014, 05:22:10 AM
Is anyone acheiving smooth proper playback? What computer specs would you recommend?

I have an Retina MacBook Pro 15inch, late 2013, ssd, 16gb Ram and i7 quad 2,3ghz.
Playback is preeeety good, realtime, and I can view my MLV files straight of my Lexar 1066X 64gb memory card, thru my Lexar USB 3 CF reader.

That is my setup when filming in the field and I need to review my shots right away for focus, framing/positioning etc.  :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: coryaycock on November 13, 2014, 01:29:29 AM
Ok, I copied and pasted the post below after be directed here by baldand.

"Hi,

First off, I'm so very happy to have this convenient software. :)

Previously, I had 1.2.3 and was having problems with it skipping when trying to view mlv files.  I now upgraded to 1.4.1 and it's doing the same thing.  I am shooting at 24fps with 1/48 shutter on my 7d (Nightly).  I'm also getting vertical black banding and was hoping someone knew of a way to get rid of this.

Everything seems to play 24fps after exporting and into FCPX, but was wondering if I need to change a setting within MlRawViewer so I can view the footage without stutter and what can be done about the banding. 

I'm kind of desperate here.  Any help would be greatly appreciated."

*A screenshot won't adequately show the banding, so I will attempt to describe it better.  It's like a horizontal shadow moving up the screen when the clip is playing...almost like when you would get bad reception with old TV's while adjusting the rabbit ears.  It starts at the bottom and then moving up the screen.  It's only on a few dark clips. 

Also, is there anything to be done about the skipping while trying to view footage?

Thanks for the response!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on November 13, 2014, 02:24:32 AM
Cory, I have never experience this with my 7D.  Can you post a .mlv file that shows this so I can test it on my rig?

For skipping, have you tried disabling frame skipping?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: coryaycock on November 13, 2014, 02:54:34 AM
It actually looks a little better on vimeo than in final cut but you can still see the faint shadows moving upward.  This is probably unrelated to MLRawViewer (which is why I posted elsewhere originally) yet I am still having trouble playing footage fluidly with the Viewer.  It skips.  The sound is fluid but the picture stutters.  It plays fluidly some of the time, then begins to skip.  I mean, it's not the end of the world, but would like for it to play smoothly if possible.  I tried adjusting the settings with no luck and I just got a new SSD installed so I know it's not due to poor mac performance.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on November 13, 2014, 04:36:39 AM
@
Quote from: coryaycock on November 13, 2014, 01:29:29 AM
*A screenshot won't adequately show the banding, so I will attempt to describe it better.  It's like a horizontal shadow moving up the screen when the clip is playing...almost like when you would get bad reception with old TV's while adjusting the rabbit ears.  It starts at the bottom and then moving up the screen.  It's only on a few dark clips. 

Sound like a shutter problem? Is there artificial light in the scene while you are getting this shadow? e.g. fluorescent light ? Street light? Mercury light? If your shutter angle is too high or low from 180 degrees then this "shadow" might appear that moves either down or up.

But I have also experienced while shooting 23.976 with 1/48 (180 degrees) under fluorescent light that the shutter shadow would appear, but when changing the shutter to 1/50 (172 degrees) the shadow would not appear.


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: coryaycock on November 13, 2014, 04:54:49 AM
As of right now, I'm okay with the moving shadow.  It's probably due to low exposure or something, even though I haven't had this issue before. 
I'm mainly trying to figure out how to get smooth playback with the MlRawViewer now.  I've gone back to 1.2.3, but still choppy.  I was getting pink clips after exporting with 1.4.1.

Thanks!  Sorry if I'm being annoying with a slew of posts...trying to finish up.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on November 13, 2014, 01:31:54 PM
It looks like a shutter sync problem due to difference in shutter speed and the lights. Try shooting in shutter speed according to the region you're shooting in.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: coryaycock on November 13, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
On Nightly there is no option for Shutter Speed 1/48.  I select 1/50 with 23.976 FPS override (MLV 1728x972) and then it says "1/48" for some reason when I view it in the Viewer.  Why is this?  Do I need to change FPS override to exactly 24fps or 25 fps?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 13, 2014, 07:52:18 PM
Perhaps try to use 'Shutter Fine Tune' to avoid that shutter sync issue? I've seen this before occasionally and it drove me crazy until it went away. Don't remember how I made it dissapear... Other than the FST... Let me know how it goes...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on November 13, 2014, 10:07:04 PM
Quote from: coryaycock on November 13, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
On Nightly there is no option for Shutter Speed 1/48.  I select 1/50 with 23.976 FPS override (MLV 1728x972) and then it says "1/48" for some reason when I view it in the Viewer.  Why is this?  Do I need to change FPS override to exactly 24fps or 25 fps?

Are you shooting in a 50hz electricty or 60 hz electricity?

Also: if you're shooting at 24p, it will switch to 1/48 but I've not encountered problems shooting under 50hz lights. It will go to 1/50 if you're shooting at 25p. Also: Try not using fps override, I can't prove it, but it seems to randomly cause problems sometimes.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dcw1979 on November 14, 2014, 04:56:53 AM
Sorry if this has been discussed already. But I am running Windows 7 64bit. Is there a version of MLRawviewer that will run on my system?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 14, 2014, 11:53:49 AM
The win32 should work fine on 64bit win7. Please give details of the problem you have.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.4.1
Post by: waltoncr on November 15, 2014, 01:38:25 AM
Great work!

However, I have found the C key does not work.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 15, 2014, 04:10:53 PM
Quote from: waltoncr on November 15, 2014, 01:38:25 AM
However, I have found the C key does not work.

Thanks. This will be fixed in the next build (1.4.2)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on November 16, 2014, 11:00:22 AM
Speaking of keys working,

are the following keys supposed to work with the numpad?


I find that they work well with the row of keys above the qwerty, but not in the numpad. Tried it with numlock on and off.

Also: Would an x64 version decode/encode faster? I was rendering in the background (set to low priority so I can work on other stuff, premiere runs normally, for instance) and found that the busy computer for some reason made MLRawViewer's processing goes really slow. What used to take half a day took 2 days to complete.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 16, 2014, 01:56:40 PM
Quote from: feureau on November 16, 2014, 11:00:22 AM
are the following keys supposed to work with the numpad?

Also: Would an x64 version decode/encode faster? I was rendering in the background (set to low priority so I can work on other stuff, premiere runs normally, for instance) and found that the busy computer for some reason made MLRawViewer's processing goes really slow. What used to take half a day took 2 days to complete.

Nice find with the numpad. This will be fixed in 1.4.2 so they work same as the other number keys.

I doubt a windows x64 version would make much difference, but I have to admit I haven't tried it. Linux and Mac version are usually 64bit, and I don't think they are radically faster. 

Rendering to MOV or export to DNG with stripe processing requires the GPU, so it's possible that putting it to the background and running other programs could disrupt this and have a big impact to the performance. To be honest, the CPU should be maxed out for export or render to get the best speed. It's quite ambitious to consider doing other things on the computer at the same time.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 16, 2014, 02:11:51 PM
Would also be great to change a for Anamorphic and s for speed as mentioned earlier. Thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: cosmo.lv on November 16, 2014, 05:00:14 PM
Hi there!
I come up with idea with a ML RAW video plugin to integrate it like all plugins works under OS X

I`m not a programmer, but somebody with knowledge can investigate its work on this.
since MiRAW has capability to play .RAW video files without converting them to .dng - i think we can integrate MiRAW code into OS X system like a plugin to play .RAW natively. (similar to RED RAW .R3D) or how any other plugins works.

i created a thread: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13852.0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on November 17, 2014, 07:52:38 AM
Quote from: baldand on November 16, 2014, 01:56:40 PM
I doubt a windows x64 version would make much difference, but I have to admit I haven't tried it. Linux and Mac version are usually 64bit, and I don't think they are radically faster. 

Would be nice to have x64 version though. :3 maybe even give it access to >4gb RAM.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: coryaycock on November 17, 2014, 08:06:37 AM
@DeafEyeJedi @feureau  I checked again, and for the particular shot I posted on vimeo, I shot at 1/81 shutter speed on accident.  That is the reason for the shadows.  All of my other clips are 1/48 and they're fine.  Thanks for the responses!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 17, 2014, 09:42:32 AM
Quote from: coryaycock on November 17, 2014, 08:06:37 AM
@DeafEyeJedi @feureau  I checked again, and for the particular shot I posted on vimeo, I shot at 1/81 shutter speed on accident.  That is the reason for the shadows.  All of my other clips are 1/48 and they're fine.  Thanks for the responses!
makes sense... good find & Happy Shooting!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on November 17, 2014, 12:41:22 PM
If you're using a mac don't forget to block app nap or when you put the Mlrv in the background the export will seriously slow down.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on November 17, 2014, 08:20:48 PM
Quote from: coryaycock on November 17, 2014, 08:06:37 AM
@DeafEyeJedi @feureau  I checked again, and for the particular shot I posted on vimeo, I shot at 1/81 shutter speed on accident.  That is the reason for the shadows.  All of my other clips are 1/48 and they're fine.  Thanks for the responses!

You're welcome!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dragan-85 on November 18, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
Guys , is it possible to replace the log curve with a custom one , with a dcp extension?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on November 19, 2014, 01:05:31 AM
If you were able to save your log curve as a .cube 3D lut you could import it.

On another note, would it be possible to incorporate a saturation slider Baldand? The ability to control saturation of the raw file before applying luts and exporting as ProRes would be an extremely valuable tool. Thanks again for all your work!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on November 19, 2014, 11:23:27 AM
Does anyone use DNGs exported by MLRawViewer with Premiere Pro directly?

I've been having issue with PPCC2014.1 in that:

1. the white balance info is not being read properly. Everything defaults to 5000k. This is the same with Lightroom and photoshop.

2. PP can't read the folders properly. In that when using media browser, the folder shows up as folders instead of clips.

3.  Also, looks like the debayering is screwed up with a lot of artefacts. Looks like this one's on PP though? Not sure.

4. it's even worse if you open it in SpeedGrade. Color is all green and everything.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: KurtAugust on November 19, 2014, 11:31:22 AM
Feature request: I would love to make MLRawviewer my one-stop encoding program for all my editing work, also for non-raw files. What are the chances?

It would help creating my as-much-open-source-as-possible-pipeline. We could create edit files from the Canon h264 recorded files and add a LUT in the process. I'm also thinking of the files my Panasonic LX100 will create once it arrives.

On the other hand, I would understand if you don't really see the benefit. More work...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on November 19, 2014, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: KurtAugust on November 19, 2014, 11:31:22 AM
Feature request: I would love to make MLRawviewer my one-stop encoding program for all my editing work, also for non-raw files. What are the chances?

It would help creating my as-much-open-source-as-possible-pipeline. We could create edit files from the Canon h264 recorded files and add a LUT in the process. I'm also thinking of the files my Panasonic LX100 will create once it arrives.

On the other hand, I would understand if you don't really see the benefit. More work...

I think you're better off using a proper NLE...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: KurtAugust on November 19, 2014, 03:58:03 PM
Like one that screws up debayering?  :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on November 20, 2014, 12:43:39 AM
Btw,  baldand

How do I white balance across multiple footage?

For instance, I have one with a white balance card,and I color-picker that and it white balances that shot properly, but how do I apply that white balance to other clips? Looks like it sometimes carry the white balance to all the clips in the folder, and sometimes I could white balance each clip? I think I got lost somewhere.

Basically, if one has different shots with various white balance, how does one assign certain WB to certain shots?

Also, feature request: Can we get those vertical line thingies for the histogram please? :3

Thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 23, 2014, 07:05:29 PM
@feureau looks like a couple of keys were missing from the top post:
H/G - Save/load current colour balance & brightness (for matching multiple takes)
The MS/MR buttons on screen do the same thing.

So, set the white balance and exposure in one clip, the press the H key or click MS.
Go to a new clip with the same conditions, and press the G key, or click MR.

In the next build, this will also store LUTs and the tone map setting as well as exposure and balance.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nikki on November 23, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
after viewing can you delete clips in the mlrawviewer you don't need?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 23, 2014, 07:44:14 PM
Quote from: nikki on November 23, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
after viewing can you delete clips in the mlrawviewer you don't need?

No, and I wouldn't be keen to add that kind of option as it might be too easy to lose clips by accident.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 23, 2014, 09:02:04 PM
Quote from: KurtAugust on November 19, 2014, 11:31:22 AM
Feature request: I would love to make MLRawviewer my one-stop encoding program for all my editing work, also for non-raw files. What are the chances?

Unfortunately quite small at the moment.

This would really need to use the libav underlying ffmpeg in order to get metadata and allow efficient random access to frames. Possible, but not trivial.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: cd1234567 on November 24, 2014, 02:21:53 PM
MLRawViewer is the best!! Thank you for your wonderful app.

I actually encounter a problem after updating the app to 1.4.1 from 1.3.3 (mac version). I hope you can help me.

The exporting to MOV file always stops at 0.22% and no MOV file is produced. (http://www.jibproduction.com/error.jpg)

I might have replaced the older version improperly during installation or something. Any idea?


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 24, 2014, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: cd1234567 on November 24, 2014, 02:21:53 PM
The exporting to MOV file always stops at 0.22% and no MOV file is produced...

1. Did you set an export directory using the W key?
2. Open and share the log file in $HOME\.mlrawviewer\mlrawviewer.log (this is probably easiest to do using the command line)
3. Try deleting the $HOME\.mlrawviewer directory and running again. From command line: cd<press enter key>rm -rf .mlrawviewer<press enter key>
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: cd1234567 on November 24, 2014, 05:34:45 PM
Thank you very much. It is working again. I deleted the directory and started over again as you told me.

I also found out that it works better if I don't skip a version when I am updating the app. Thanks again.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: coryaycock on November 25, 2014, 01:16:07 AM
As I said before, I really love this player.  It's been a life saver.  (unintended rhyme)  Although, I cannot get it to play my mlv's at 24 fps.  It's jerky...as if it's skipping frames or something.  I am still using an older version (v1.2.3) because it's what I'm familiar with and is easiest for me exporting.  Could someone please let me know how to get smooth playback?  Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tool on November 25, 2014, 11:44:29 AM
Hi baldand,
I've been using your app so far so good, but I have bunch of clips from a nightly build in which I have the wrong BlackLevel on them (enabled blacklevel fix on ML)
So ,these files I need fix them with mlv_dump or exiftool. (create another file) if anyone suffered the same problem => http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11664.0

Have you considered a BlackLevel override in your app?


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nikki on November 25, 2014, 05:47:35 PM
my clips say clog...is this the best log??
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 25, 2014, 06:07:03 PM
Quote from: nikki on November 25, 2014, 05:47:35 PM
my clips say clog...is this the best log??

That's just the default. You can change it by clicking the tone map icon (box with a curve in) or pressing the T or Shift-T keys.

Other log options currently are: Log-C, S-Log, SLog2 and "Log8". You can also provide your own preferred log curve as a 1D LUT.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nikki on November 26, 2014, 05:33:04 PM
how do you export the files??  Into fcpX or Davinci..using a mac??
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 27, 2014, 07:30:19 AM
Quote from: coryaycock on November 25, 2014, 01:16:07 AM
As I said before, I really love this player.  It's been a life saver.  (unintended rhyme)  Although, I cannot get it to play my mlv's at 24 fps.  It's jerky...as if it's skipping frames or something.  I am still using an older version (v1.2.3) because it's what I'm familiar with and is easiest for me exporting.  Could someone please let me know how to get smooth playback?  Thanks!

What GPU do you have - is it Intel integrated or discrete? Only discrete or recent Intel GPUs can play smoothly.
Things to try: turn off stripe correction, remove all LUTs, update graphics drivers.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 27, 2014, 04:30:34 PM
MlRawViewer 1.4.2 is now available

Download link: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads)

Summary of Changes:

- Fix for C key so multiple exports can be queued
- Fix for W key to launch dialog for choosing export directory
- Shift-W opens dialog to choose an external WAV file to play with the clip
- Colour store/restore (H/G keys and MS/MR icons) now store also tone map and all LUTs allowing all colour-related settings to be copied between clips
- Tone mapping and balance no longer "floats" when changing between clips because it was not being persisted to the per-clip settings. Instead, you should use the store/restore to copy settings.
- Audio file name and offset are now shown in the metadata
- Audio offset can be reset to the current video position with Shift-N key
- Audio file names are now stored relative to their parent clip so they can be moved and stay associated
- Numeric keypad should work for colour balance nudging
- Shift-B key tries to find the first 12kHz beep in the audio file, and sets the audio offset to that
- Fixed bug in Histogram. Previously it was only measuring the bottom third of the image.
- Audio playback system reworked for better random access performance
- WAVs exported with DNGs now include bext, iXML blocks & DNGs include CameraSerialNumber and TimeCodes tags. With these, Resolve should automatically embed the WAV in the clip.

About this release

This release has mainly been about improving the audio handling, particularly with daily issues affecting me.

Since I use an external Zoom-H1 for all my audio, I wanted a better way to pair and sync those files with my clips.
I use the ML feature to play a 12kHz beep at the start of every clip, and I always start recording audio before video.

In MlRawViewer, this workflow should now work quite well. Open the clip, then press Shift-W and choose the matching audio file.
Then press Shift-B, and in most cases the (high quality) audio should now be very well in sync with the video.

If you don't have the beep, then Shift-N can still help with sync - wait until you hear the start of the video and then press Shift-N. The use the audio offset nudge keys (B/N) to get the sync exact.

Resolve should now also show the WAV files embedded in the clip (thanks to dmilligan/chmee/danne for all the tips about how to do this), however since Resolve doesn't seem to handle 96kHz WAVs, this hasn't been a very useful feature for me :-(

The other big change is that you should now use the colour store/restore (H/G keys or MS/MR icons) to copy settings between clips. Earlier there was ambiguity about what settings a clip was using because some values would float until you had explicitly set them. This was useful when jumping through takes, but confusing later when coming back to those clips again and seeing them with diferent settings applied. Now it should be more explicit - there is a default value and if you change it, the changes are persisted. Full sets can be copied between takes with H/G
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on November 27, 2014, 05:21:40 PM
- Shift-B key tries to find the first 12kHz beep in the audio file, and sets the audio offset to that


This is pure magic. I use the same workflow that you and this could save a lot of work!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on November 27, 2014, 05:55:52 PM
This is really good!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 27, 2014, 06:34:51 PM
@baland.
very nice addons.
thank you very much.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 27, 2014, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: togg on November 27, 2014, 05:21:40 PM
- Shift-B key tries to find the first 12kHz beep in the audio file, and sets the audio offset to that

This is pure magic. I use the same work flow that you and this could save a lot of work!

I hope this works for you. It's not 100% perfect, but for me it is working quite well in most cases. If the first 60 seconds of the wav has a lot of broad spectrum noise it can pick the wrong offset though.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 27, 2014, 10:49:48 PM
If you try 1.4.2, please write a short note here about your environment and observations, even if everything works OK, and especially if it doesn't.

Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on November 28, 2014, 03:02:09 AM
I was coming back to ask if anyone keeps getting 2-3 black frames at the end of their DNGs but that was with 1.3.4.

Surprised to find 1.4.2 :D That audio sync will prove useful! Thanks for this! (any plans for x64?)

Btw, what's the DNG setting with MLRawViewer? I was trying raw2cdng and MLRawViewer consistently puts out much smaller DNGs. Almost half the size compared to raw2cdng 16bit maximized. Btw, does 1.4.2 put out the white balance info on the DNG yet? raw2cdng seems to put the MLV WB info on the DNG when loaded in Resolve.

First impression:

the folder browser is really slow on my system. Even scrolling down takes a few seconds.

I can't seem to associate .mlv with mlrawviewer anymore. :(

EDIT: I try setting MLRawViewer as the default program to open MLV when I double click them. I tried using the Open with dialog on windows to associate .mlv with mlrawviewer, but it wouldn't let me pick mlrawviewer for some reason. Anyone got any ideas?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: coryaycock on November 28, 2014, 03:38:53 AM
@baldand (referring to smooth playback and GPU/Intel question) 

I have a mid-2011 iMac and tried the other suggestions.  Still no luck.  It played smoothly before, during tests, but can't figure out why it won't play smoothly now.  I'm not sure what to do.  I am currently exporting as MOV to check all the clips.  The sound plays normally, just the picture skips.  I know it might be frustrating with little issues like this, especially since you just put out a new update, (I'm using an older version) so if you don't have any other suggestions, I understand.  Thanks! 
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on November 28, 2014, 05:22:40 AM
Quote from: feureau on November 28, 2014, 03:02:09 AM

Btw, what's the DNG setting with MLRawViewer? I was trying raw2cdng and MLRawViewer consistently puts out much smaller DNGs. Almost half the size compared to raw2cdng 16bit maximized.

Compressed dng since a few versions. Same quality, half the size, preview not working in osx preview.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 28, 2014, 06:39:01 AM
Quote from: coryaycock on November 28, 2014, 03:38:53 AM
I have a mid-2011 iMac and tried the other suggestions.  Still no luck.  It played smoothly before, during tests, but can't figure out why it won't play smoothly now.  I'm not sure what to do.  I am currently exporting as MOV to check all the clips.  The sound plays normally, just the picture skips.  I know it might be frustrating with little issues like this, especially since you just put out a new update, (I'm using an older version) so if you don't have any other suggestions, I understand.  Thanks! 

Your machine should be fast enough for smooth playback, so this is a bit mysterious.

If you play back in non-drop frame mode (press F, or change clock icon to a frame) there is no sound but you will see all frames. Is that not a usable alternative to the MOV render for checking? Does that play back noticeably under the real speed?

You say it was smooth "before" - can you say in which version? 1.3 introduced a new demosaic function for playback, which could possibly be slower on older GPUs, but I wouldn't have expected this on your machine.

Another question - how long (number of frames) and what res are the clips you are playing? Is it skipping even with short or lower resoluton clips?

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 28, 2014, 06:47:14 AM
Quote from: feureau on November 28, 2014, 03:02:09 AM
I was coming back to ask if anyone keeps getting 2-3 black frames at the end of their DNGs but that was with 1.3.4.

I think I've seen that mainly with clips from 5diii. Not really in my own 7D clips.

Quote from: feureau on November 28, 2014, 03:02:09 AM
(any plans for x64?)

No plans unless people start complaining of crashes due to OutOfMemory. Mainly because it's more confusing/work to have 2 win versions and I don't see any benefits.

Quote from: feureau on November 28, 2014, 03:02:09 AM
Btw, what's the DNG setting with MLRawViewer? I was trying raw2cdng and MLRawViewer consistently puts out much smaller DNGs. Almost half the size compared to raw2cdng 16bit maximized.

Lossless JPEG compression - all the same data in a smaller file, just iike ZIP for your DNGs.

Quote from: feureau on November 28, 2014, 03:02:09 AM
Btw, does 1.4.2 put out the white balance info on the DNG yet? raw2cdng seems to put the MLV WB info on the DNG when loaded in Resolve.

Nope. chmee did a great job reverse engineering the camera WB values into multipliers. I haven't done anything similar yet.

Quote from: feureau on November 28, 2014, 03:02:09 AM
the folder browser is really slow on my system. Even scrolling down takes a few seconds.

Hmmm... this is wierd. What kind of environment did you have again?
Did you try 1.4.1, and if so was that also slow?
What kind of directory structure do you have - lots of DNGs?
Is is slow even in a directory with just a few clips?


Quote from: feureau on November 28, 2014, 03:02:09 AM
I can't seem to associate .mlv with mlrawviewer anymore. :(

EDIT: I try setting MLRawViewer as the default program to open MLV when I double click them. I tried using the Open with dialog on windows to associate .mlv with mlrawviewer, but it wouldn't let me pick mlrawviewer for some reason. Anyone got any ideas?

I recall something similar in the past on Win7, can't remember how I fixed it though.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 28, 2014, 06:52:49 AM
I would love to use your player to convert my files but have some banding issues for my 5dmk3, so i hope that you will implement 5dmk3 vertical stripe correction algo soon ;)
Thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 28, 2014, 09:53:02 AM
@baland:
i tried to convert a video with the new version, when i press e a directory is created but nothin happens?
it does not work with dng and mov export here?

i have a mac system.

thx
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 28, 2014, 11:34:56 AM
Log file please. I can't say much otherwise. I have tested export in OS X so it should be working fine.

BTW re your stripes. I will not be integrating any other stripe reduction code. If you have clips which are not being corrected by the current algorithm, you could share an example with me that show the problem and perhaps I can tweak the current code to be more effective with it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 28, 2014, 02:47:00 PM
@baland:

ok thx, here is the log file:

https://copy.com/xmvwYt1OLGo4S8au

and yes indeed, i have some shots which have problems. here is one dng from a shot without correction applied:
ok.. i can not convert those dngs because the converting is not working :)
however i can playback the mlv file - which is too big to share.

so when the export is working again, i will put the dngs into the folder.
in the meantime i put in a screenshot with a lut applied, ok the settings seem extreme but there i can see vertical lines all over the image.
with mlvfs those lines are gone completely.

greets. sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 28, 2014, 06:22:52 PM
@swinxx I see what the problem is. Can you try deleting the old .MRX file alongside the clip and then reopening and trying the export again? Let me know if that works.

I will try to put code in the next release to avoid this problem.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: swinxx on November 28, 2014, 07:36:55 PM
will try it, thank you.
greets sw
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kgv5 on November 28, 2014, 11:09:58 PM
Is there any progress in implementing andy600s cinelog-c into mlvrawviewer? Seems that the last posts about it were in the end of august, did i miss something?

@baldand
testing 1.4.2 right now, win7 64bit,  seems good, nothing bad to report :)
Is there any chance to implement some highlight/shadow adjusting? This would be very useful, brightness setting is great but sometimes there is a need for more flexibility.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Andy600 on November 29, 2014, 03:18:40 AM
@kgv5 - I have a private copy that's working without luts but I'm not 100% happy with it yet. When I get my current work out of the way I will try and finalize it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on November 29, 2014, 05:46:46 AM
Cinelog-C would be a dream come true for all of us...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on November 29, 2014, 11:00:58 AM
Quote from: baldand on November 28, 2014, 06:47:14 AM

I recall something similar in the past on Win7, can't remember how I fixed it though.


In osx I can't associate the raw files with the app neither. Since a long time anyway.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: morsafr on November 30, 2014, 12:59:20 PM
Hi baldand,

It seems "E" key is not working every time to export clip but "C" key is still functioning normally.

(Mac Pro Mavericks).

BR,
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 30, 2014, 04:22:54 PM
Quote from: morsafr on November 30, 2014, 12:59:20 PM
Hi baldand,

It seems "E" key is not working every time to export clip but "C" key is still functioning normally.

(Mac Pro Mavericks).

BR,

I need more details in order to diagnose and fix this.

1. What happens when it fails? What do you see?
2. Both MOV and DNG, or just one kind?
3. MLV or RAW?
4. Does same file always fail or succeed?
5. Please find the log file and post it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: goran on November 30, 2014, 05:27:33 PM
Hello All,

I hope I'm posting in a correct place.

I'm using the latest mlrawviewer version on OS X, which is currently 1.4.2.
If I hit "A" to toggle anamorphic mode to correct the 50/60p squeeze the image appears fine. However if I hit "E" to export the file to .mov, it's exported without the correction. Any way around this? I most likely am missing something.

Also, is there a way to export from mlrawviewer at certain resolution? If I'm shooting continuous 50/60p I get continuous recording at 1600xXXX (don't remember exactly) resolution. It would be great if the file could be directly exported from mlrawviewer at 1920x1080 (after applying the anamorphic correction) instead of going through another batch of processing through davinci or premiere in order to get 1920x1080 files instead of 1600xXXX.

All best,
Goran
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on November 30, 2014, 07:31:42 PM
Hi Goran,

Unfortunately MlRawViewer currently only exports MOV files at the original resolution. Any anamorphic or high-fps (de)squeeze is purely for viewing only, not for export.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Piotruchna on November 30, 2014, 07:59:43 PM
Hello,
some of the mlv files work but from one folder when I open mlv file, MlRawViewer just crashes, every file from that folder crashes mlrawviewer. Ive got this from log:

Updating standard 1D LUTs
MlRawViewer v1.4.2
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013-2014
Using GLFW
Loading 'D:\\nagrywane filmy\\filmy mlv 2 - g\xf3ry\\M01-1343.MLV'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\Viewer", line 162, in load
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\MlRaw", line 1565, in loadRAWorMLV
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\MlRaw", line 654, in __init__
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\MlRaw", line 756, in parseFile
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\MlRaw", line 880, in parseWavi
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\wave", line 504, in open
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\wave", line 304, in __init__
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'D:\\nagrywane filmy\\filmy mlv 2 - g\xf3ry\\M01-1343.WAV'
Exception AttributeError: "Wave_write instance has no attribute '_file'" in <bound method Wave_write.__del__ of <wave.Wave_write instance at 0x05E83530>> ignored
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 98, in <module>
  File "<string>", line 90, in main
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\Viewer", line 166, in load
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'r' referenced before assignment


Any thoughts whats wrong?

Edit:
I would like to add that these files were opening in previous version (dont remember which).

Edit2:
As there is no response yet. I tried to open my files with built in browser and it did produce thumbnails like on screenshot:

(http://s11.postimg.org/b23wmkvbj/Przechwytywanie.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/b23wmkvbj/)

But when I click to open window goes black, unresponsive and program quits. :)

Edit3: I did check every version and till 1.3.4 every clip on my hdd works. Ive got new bug from log from 1.4.2:

UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xf3' in position 34: ordinal not in range(128)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: lureb74 on November 30, 2014, 10:40:05 PM
Hello,
I have a question: when you toggle to anamorphic aspect to fix a clip shooted in 50p or 60p and exporting to MOV, the aspect ratio of the exported clip appears not fixed. Is that normal?
Thanks,
Lorenzo
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Audionut on November 30, 2014, 10:46:38 PM
Try reading the post two posts above yours.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: lureb74 on November 30, 2014, 11:26:36 PM
Quote from: Audionut on November 30, 2014, 10:46:38 PM
Try reading the post two posts above yours.

ok sorry :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: goran on December 01, 2014, 06:48:24 AM
Thanks baldand.
I was sure I was missing something  ;)
Perhaps it should be a future feature.

All best,
Goran
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nikki on December 02, 2014, 04:58:08 PM
is it possible to have some sort of trash bin for unwanted takes in the future ..?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on December 03, 2014, 03:29:43 AM
It's built in to your PC or Mac already nikki.   :P
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on December 04, 2014, 05:45:47 AM
QuoteLossless JPEG compression - all the same data in a smaller file, just iike ZIP for your DNGs.

I've been testing some DNGs and it seems ones coming from MlRawViewer has the worst playback but top image quality. I think it may have been due to compression? Can we have some DNG options please? :D

QuoteHmmm... this is wierd. What kind of environment did you have again?
Did you try 1.4.1, and if so was that also slow?
What kind of directory structure do you have - lots of DNGs?
Is is slow even in a directory with just a few clips?

1.4.1 is a LOT faster. It seems 1.4.2 slows down a lot when computer is working, such as having some rendering running. I'm on Win7 x64. Tried it with some DNG-filled directory and empty directories. Also.. the scroll is inverted? Btw, I know you can click the the info for this, but, is there a shortcut to go back to the Choose a file to view screen? (maybe it's time to update the first post too?)

Btw, batch exporting seems to froze the program sometimes. Just hitting c and it freezes up. I checked the target folder and it produces an empty folder.

Also: I still can't associate .mlv with mlrawviewer. :( Anyone got any ideas?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on December 04, 2014, 03:51:58 PM
I can't also to associate MLV fils on Win7 64 to  Mlrawviewer. One month ago wend i format my PC i have manage to do it, but after i change the versions of Mlrawviewer i never can't more to associate the MLV files.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on December 04, 2014, 06:01:14 PM
Windows is terrible about screwing up file associations, esp. if the program associated with a file type changes or is moved. If you know what you're doing you can fix it by tweaking the registry. There are also lots of third party programs that will manage/fix file associations for you (since Microsoft did such a terrible job of this). See the first answer to this stack exchange question: http://superuser.com/questions/33651/why-cant-change-the-default-program-to-open-an-extension-in-windows-7?rq=1
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on December 04, 2014, 06:33:24 PM
Thanks dmilligan, will read and try out  =D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: maestrorobertus on December 05, 2014, 10:22:15 PM
Hi there, thanks for that fantastic tool.
I would like to ask if EXR file format support could be done in the future.
We have a lot work getting DNG's to work in our pipeline and EXRs are much easier and flexibler to handle.
DNGs seam only to work well with AfterEffects which is currently our converter, but its still not easy to import.
I know its not the same, but a 32bit exr is small of size and still contain all the information needed.
Well at least if you consider using ML professional..

Anyway thanks for the tool, works fantastic.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: N/A on December 05, 2014, 10:45:36 PM
I couldn't get 1.4.2 to render out anything on my 2010 MacBook last night, neither raw nor mlv to dng or mov. It seemed to work well on my 2012 27" iMac, though. I'll try to post the log after work and test some more.
Great work so far, especially with the dng compression. Now if we could only get the thumbnails to display properly again in OSX.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 05, 2014, 11:23:58 PM
Quote from: N/A on December 05, 2014, 10:45:36 PM
I couldn't get 1.4.2 to render out anything on my 2010 MacBook last night, neither raw nor mlv to dng or mov. It seemed to work well on my 2012 27" iMac, though. I'll try to post the log after work and test some more.

Try deleting some .MDX files next to your RAW/MLV and try again.

Results?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: N/A on December 05, 2014, 11:36:31 PM
Yup, deleted those, deleted the .mlrawviewer log, completely reinstalled, same problem.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 06, 2014, 06:38:41 AM
Did you first set your export destination in prior to? Try pressing W to set your destination folder and then try exporting again.

Results?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: goran on December 06, 2014, 08:25:43 AM
I have a question regarding entire directory of .raw files.
Pressing C should export entire directory of files with current settings.
With 1.4.1 on 10.10.1 nothing happens.
With 1.4.2 on 10.10.1 the program hangs.

Pressing E works fine for exporting current file, however C doesn't work.

I probably am missing something...

My config:

OS X 10.10.1
16GB RAM
512 SSD
AMD Radeon 6750 with 1GB of RAM

Thanks,
Goran
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: goran on December 06, 2014, 08:32:10 AM
My bad, E doesn't work either!

In 1.3.4 everything works just fine.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 06, 2014, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: goran on December 06, 2014, 08:32:10 AM
My bad, E doesn't work either!

In 1.3.4 everything works just fine.

Try deleting the .MRX files next to each clip you want to export.

I believe the bug in 1.4.2 is because I changed to using relative paths for the audio file, but didn't check all the cases where old absolute paths must be converted to relative
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Piotruchna on December 06, 2014, 04:29:32 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 06, 2014, 11:10:25 AM
Try deleting the .MRX files next to each clip you want to export.

I believe the bug in 1.4.2 is because I changed to using relative paths for the audio file, but didn't check all the cases where old absolute paths must be converted to relative
Hey man it did solve my problem, thanks!!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rgilman on December 07, 2014, 06:38:41 AM
I haven't been able to export on my macs with either 1.4.1 or 1.4.2. The log file shows:

MlRawViewer v1.4.2
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013-2014
No handlers could be found for logger "OpenGL.arrays.numpymodule"
Using GLFW
Loading '/Users/Robert/Desktop/100EOS7D/M28-0711.MLV'
/Users/Robert/Desktop/100EOS7D/M28-0711.WAV /Users/Robert/Desktop/100EOS7D/M28-0711.WAV
None
MOV export to '/Users/Robert/Desktop/PRout/M28-0711_000001' started
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Users/andrew/Projects/mlrawviewer/build/mlrawviewer_mac/out00-PYZ.pyz/ExportQueue", line 582, in doExportMov
  File "/Users/andrew/Projects/mlrawviewer/build/mlrawviewer_mac/out00-PYZ.pyz/ExportQueue", line 627, in processExportMov
  File "/Users/andrew/Projects/mlrawviewer/build/mlrawviewer_mac/out00-PYZ.pyz/posixpath", line 75, in join
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'
Export job failed:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Users/andrew/Projects/mlrawviewer/build/mlrawviewer_mac/out00-PYZ.pyz/ExportQueue", line 205, in run
  File "/Users/andrew/Projects/mlrawviewer/build/mlrawviewer_mac/out00-PYZ.pyz/ExportQueue", line 228, in nextJob
  File "/Users/andrew/Projects/mlrawviewer/build/mlrawviewer_mac/out00-PYZ.pyz/ExportQueue", line 589, in doExportMov
AttributeError: 'ExportQueue' object has no attribute 'encoderProcess'


I get the same pattern on a Mac Pro with 10.9 and a MacBook Pro with 10.10.

Any suggests would be welcome.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 07, 2014, 06:57:36 AM
Did you read two posts up from earlier up above?

Quote from: baldand on December 06, 2014, 11:10:25 AM
Try deleting the .MRX files next to each clip you want to export.

I believe the bug in 1.4.2 is because I changed to using relative paths for the audio file, but didn't check all the cases where old absolute paths must be converted to relative
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rgilman on December 07, 2014, 05:18:11 PM
Yes. Sorry that I didn't indicate that I deleted the .MRX files. Still no change in the result or in the two errors in the log:
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'starts with'
AttributeError: 'ExportQueue' object has no attribute 'encoderProcess'


Also, I had this issue with 1.4.1 as well.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 07, 2014, 07:19:47 PM
Did you first set your destination point for your output?

Try pressing W to set your export destination...

Also check to see if it's not paused accidentally by pressing Y...

Results?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rgilman on December 07, 2014, 07:52:28 PM
Thanks for your quick replies. I did set the destination to a new empty folder before the failed export using W. I also checked with Y before the failed export. I think I'm covered on those parts of the procedure, but you never know so I appreciate your asking.

The .raw and .mlv files I've tried to export were recorded on a 7D as tests with a slow card. They play in MlRawViewer but may have issues. I will try again in a few days with a Lexar 1066 64GB card.

I was hoping someone here would look at the log and say, "Oh yeah, on Macs you need to ..." but it sounds like there is nothing that obvious in those error codes.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 08, 2014, 12:59:06 AM
Well just stand by and hopefully @baldand will get back to you shortly since unfortunately I cannot read the log file you sent.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: AMPhoto on December 08, 2014, 02:53:33 AM
Hi everybody, this is my first post on ML community  :)
Thanks for developing this useful and amazing software. I've discovered it today and decided to try it.
I'm a professional photographer and I'm almost new to video RAW (of course I understand the basics of this)
I've recorded a MLV file with my 5D Mark II.
Installed MLRawViewer in a folder and I succesfully open the MLV file. It plays very smooth on my HP Elitebook (i5, 8Gb DDR3, AMD HD6470, SSD+Hitach 7k RPM 2,5 1tb, Windows 8.1 x64). But I can't export anything.
I've set IN and OUT marks, I've set a location for exporting in MOV with W key. But the browser windows looks not clear to me. I've folders, and it's okay, but how to confirm I want to export to the current directory? Enter key enters the directory, ESC close the software. I can click just the cross near the path, top left of the window.
And, most important, I can't export anything. I press the E key and nothing happens.Sometimes appears the text of the exporting process but it does nothing and keep at 0.00%.

Here is a screenshot of the window and the log file to debug.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjw28gby6vqzko9/mlrawviewer.log?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vhd0ommot4vwu2e/mlrawviewer.JPG?dl=0

Thanks in advance for the help :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 08, 2014, 03:36:44 AM
Quote from: baldand on December 06, 2014, 11:10:25 AM
Try deleting the .MRX files next to each clip you want to export.

I believe the bug in 1.4.2 is because I changed to using relative paths for the audio file, but didn't check all the cases where old absolute paths must be converted to relative

If that doesn't work -- Maybe try pressing Y to 'unpause' it somehow?

Results?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 08, 2014, 06:33:51 AM
Quote from: AMPhoto on December 08, 2014, 02:53:33 AM
Hi everybody, this is my first post on ML community  :)
Thanks for developing this useful and amazing software. I've discovered it today and decided to try it.
I'm a professional photographer and I'm almost new to video RAW (of course I understand the basics of this)
I've recorded a MLV file with my 5D Mark II.
Installed MLRawViewer in a folder and I succesfully open the MLV file. It plays very smooth on my HP Elitebook (i5, 8Gb DDR3, AMD HD6470, SSD+Hitach 7k RPM 2,5 1tb, Windows 8.1 x64). But I can't export anything.
I've set IN and OUT marks, I've set a location for exporting in MOV with W key. But the browser windows looks not clear to me. I've folders, and it's okay, but how to confirm I want to export to the current directory? Enter key enters the directory, ESC close the software. I can click just the cross near the path, top left of the window.
And, most important, I can't export anything. I press the E key and nothing happens.Sometimes appears the text of the exporting process but it does nothing and keep at 0.00%.

Here is a screenshot of the window and the log file to debug.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjw28gby6vqzko9/mlrawviewer.log?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vhd0ommot4vwu2e/mlrawviewer.JPG?dl=0

Thanks in advance for the help :)

Hi!

Thanks for the detailed bug report. I think this again due to the problems with audio file names introduced in 1.4.2.

Since 1.4.2 is actually the development/testing version with new features and bugs, I would recommend to you to start with the stable series, e.g. 1.3.4. You may need to delete all the generated .MRX files next to the raw files, and the $HOME/.mlrawviewer directory to be on the safe side.

Hopefully export should be working ok with that version.



Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on December 08, 2014, 08:10:21 AM
@Baldand I need your help.

I get in 4 shots around ten WHITE dots in the image (5D Mark III)

I found it after export from MLRaw to DNG

I deleted the RAW files, so I have only DNGs.

Can you help me?

I use OS X, so I have ACR, Resolve, Final Cut X and your software.

I tried to do a tracking movement in resolve and I made me crazy for nights.

Thank you.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 08, 2014, 03:23:43 PM
Quote from: budafilms on December 08, 2014, 08:10:21 AM
@Baldand I need your help.

I get in 4 shots around ten WHITE dots in the image (5D Mark III)

I found it after export from MLRaw to DNG

I deleted the RAW files, so I have only DNGs.

Can you help me?

I use OS X, so I have ACR, Resolve, Final Cut X and your software.

I tried to do a tracking movement in resolve and I made me crazy for nights.

Thank you.

I don't immediately see how I can help.

In the case MlRawViewer caused the dots when converting from raw to dng, then I doubt it can be undone from just the DNGs.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: AMPhoto on December 08, 2014, 04:13:55 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 08, 2014, 06:33:51 AM
Hi!

Thanks for the detailed bug report. I think this again due to the problems with audio file names introduced in 1.4.2.

Since 1.4.2 is actually the development/testing version with new features and bugs, I would recommend to you to start with the stable series, e.g. 1.3.4. You may need to delete all the generated .MRX files next to the raw files, and the $HOME/.mlrawviewer directory to be on the safe side.

Hopefully export should be working ok with that version.





I hope my bug report will help you in developing future versions. If you need any further help for testing this version (and future) feel free to ask :)
Thanks for the fast support and reply.
Using the 1.3.4 version, as you suggested, everything works as expected.
Again, very nice tool!

Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on December 08, 2014, 03:36:44 AM
If that doesn't work -- Maybe try pressing Y to 'unpause' it somehow?

Results?

Of course I did try it before. But everything wasn't working correctly.
Now when I press the E button, with the 1.3.4, it starts immediately to export.
The browser windows, furthermore, weren't the windows standard, but they were skinned like the rest of the program interface.
But there wasn't any OK button or anything to confirm the export path, for example.
I could click only on the cross or exit the program with ESC key.
Now with 1.3.2 it's all okay.
If you need a screenshot of the window I was talking about feel free to ask, I'll post it here.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 08, 2014, 05:45:45 PM
You can press Backspace button instead of Esc to get Out of the window without closing down the app...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rgilman on December 09, 2014, 05:09:18 AM
@Baldand, switching to 1.3.4 also solved my problem with export on OSX (see previous posts). I hope you can find the no-export bug in the 1.4 version. I couldn't export in either 1.4.1 or 1.4.2 so I doubt the no-export bug was introduced in 1.4.2. Thanks again for your good work on this.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: eld3rs on December 09, 2014, 06:00:14 PM
 MLRawViewer seems to be working well, i just have two more issues.

1. The video is playing but it is duotoned and not in full color

2. I cant get to export, how does i followed this order from the control list
W - File dialog to choose the export directory
D - Choose export type, MOV or DNG
E - Add marked range to the export queue. Will use the source name with ".MOV" or "_DNG" appended.
C - Export all files in the current directory using the current settings
Y - Start processing, or pause processing of the export queue

but there's no progress after pressing the E key.

i have tried on versions 1.3.3 and 1.4.2
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: goran on December 09, 2014, 06:51:00 PM
Hi Baldand,

In my case deleting the .mrx files didn't work. That was the first thing I tried. Still no luck at exporting with either of 1.4 versions.
Staying with 1.3.4 meanwhile as it's working just fine.

Keep up the good work!

Goran

P.S. Why can't I quote other people's responses?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ricbi1 on December 09, 2014, 07:06:18 PM
Just wanted to thank you for an awesome and now key workflow element! This is brilliant.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: R4dev on December 09, 2014, 10:08:35 PM
Hi there,

I tried to open a .RAW file with both versions 1.3.3 and 1.4.2 and the program closes immediately.  Checked the log file, it reads:

WindowsError: exception: access violation reading 0x00000008

I have an EOS-M with the lates nightly build, and tried it on my rather old Dell laptop Core Duo with Win 7.

Does anyone know what the problem might be? The program sounds awesome and I'd really like to give it a try. Sorry if I'm not posting this where I should, it seams like the proper place.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 10, 2014, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: R4dev on December 09, 2014, 10:08:35 PM
Hi there,

I tried to open a .RAW file with both versions 1.3.3 and 1.4.2 and the program closes immediately.  Checked the log file, it reads:

WindowsError: exception: access violation reading 0x00000008

I have an EOS-M with the lates nightly build, and tried it on my rather old Dell laptop Core Duo with Win 7.

Does anyone know what the problem might be? The program sounds awesome and I'd really like to give it a try. Sorry if I'm not posting this where I should, it seams like the proper place.

Unless you have a discrete (Nvidia or AMD) GPU in that, you may be out of luck. If you do, make sure you have the latest graphics drivers.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: csound on December 11, 2014, 05:19:23 AM
download link for 1.4.2 doesn't seem to be working
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 11, 2014, 03:38:09 PM
Quote from: csound on December 11, 2014, 05:19:23 AM
download link for 1.4.2 doesn't seem to be working

Thanks. Should be working now.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: csound on December 12, 2014, 03:32:44 AM
Quote from: baldand on December 11, 2014, 03:38:09 PM
Thanks. Should be working now.

Thanks got it :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 12, 2014, 07:46:18 AM
1.4.3 now available

From the usual place: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads)

This is identical to 1.4.2, but it fixes one bug which caused exporting from clips without audio to fail. I suspect this is the bug that was causing many people export problems in 1.4.2.

If you could not export with 1.4.2, please try 1.4.3 and let me know if it is now working for you, or not.


If you still have problems with 1.4.3, please include the $HOME/.mlrawviewer/mlrawviewer.log file when reporting those so that I can investigate them.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Francis Frenkel on December 12, 2014, 09:24:11 AM
Hello,

I notice 2 things :
A got a Europeen keyboard, then, the keys are not working !
I must use the correspondance between US and French Keybord... for exemple "W" is "Z" for me !
No trick to fix that ?

How could I choose or select a group / list of Raw files to convert ?
I've found that "W" is the key to choose the export directory, but what is the key to select several RAW files to convert / extract (from one directory or different directories) ?

Francis
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: SpirITzzz on December 12, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
Hello! I test 1.4.3 version and see this bugs:
1. When I trying export all videos in my folder (press C button), program window is freezing.
2. Don't work LUTs presets, i choose C-Log, but my DNG look like default camera settings.
3. "A - Toggle anamorphic aspect to take into account the 1.4x squeeze from shooting 50p/60p"
This work for only for preview, may be you can add resize option for export?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 12, 2014, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: SpirITzzz on December 12, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
Hello! I test 1.4.3 version and see this bugs:
1. When I trying export all videos in my folder (press C button), program window is freezing.
2. Don't work LUTs presets, i choose C-Log, but my DNG look like default camera settings.
3. "A - Toggle anamorphic aspect to take into account the 1.4x squeeze from shooting 50p/60p"
This work for only for preview, may be you can add resize option for export?

Thanks for the report. I managed to reproduce 1 -> It looks like the C button is still broken in 1.4.3.

Re 2 (not a change in 1.4.3, feature request), LUTs are not applied to DNGs because DNGs are the original raw data as-is. Only the stripe/hot-pixel correction is applied to DNGs if you enable that. If you have SW that can handle DNGs, it should be fully capable of handling the full raw dynamic range and applying any LUTs you wish. The MlRawViewer LUT support is only for preview, and MOV encoding where the dynamic range that can be stored is reduced.

Re 3 (not a change in 1.4.3, feature request), it's been asked before but I'm not keen on supporting any resize that loses resolution data. That's why the stretches/squeezes are only for preview at the moment.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 12, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
Quote from: Francis Frenkel on December 12, 2014, 09:24:11 AM
Hello,

I notice 2 things :
A got a Europeen keyboard, then, the keys are not working !
I must use the correspondance between US and French Keybord... for exemple "W" is "Z" for me !
No trick to fix that ?

How could I choose or select a group / list of Raw files to convert ?
I've found that "W" is the key to choose the export directory, but what is the key to select several RAW files to convert / extract (from one directory or different directories) ?

Francis

You didn't say what OS you are using. This sounds like a mistake in keyboard mapping but it's hard to say what the cause is. Do characters appear correctly for you in all other apps?

Re multi exports, just open each file in turn and press E to add it to the export queue. Alternatively, C should export all files from the same directory as the current file, however, it seems like that feature is still broken in 1.4.3.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Francis Frenkel on December 13, 2014, 09:19:07 AM
QuoteA got a Europeen keyboard, then, the keys are not working !
I must use the correspondance between US and French Keybord... for exemple "W" is "Z" for me !
No trick to fix that ?

Quote from: baldand on December 12, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
You didn't say what OS you are using. This sounds like a mistake in keyboard mapping but it's hard to say what the cause is. Do characters appear correctly for you in all other apps?

Windows 7 Pro - MLRaw viewer 1.3.3

Francis
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on December 13, 2014, 01:31:54 PM
Still no love with 1.4.3. It creates empty folders.
Here it is the log, https://www.mediafire.com/?thvad88n73xlhc0

(macbook pro retina 15, 10.9.5, 2.3 ghz i7, 8gb ram, nvidia graphic etc)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on December 13, 2014, 11:30:19 PM
I ask you before how to repare hot pixels, it's good to add an option to repare this in the software.
ACR detect this pixels and create one from the pixels around.

In DaVInci Resolve, I had to create manually one node with shapes and apply blur.

Hot pixels it's very common Cmos problem and a lot of users don't know they have dozens of that, probably for the size of the videos in regular LCD or Led. But when you put your video in a projector or big TV are very visibles.

I think it's a very good idea to add.

I deleted RAW files for the size - 5 TB - so I don't have other solution that create a manually shapes.

Thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on December 13, 2014, 11:44:05 PM
EDIT: wrong thread
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on December 14, 2014, 02:16:59 AM
There's a pass that remove hot pixel here, the problem is that Resolve doesn't seem to recognize the data of this process. It's not burned in apparently.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 14, 2014, 09:33:19 AM
Quote from: togg on December 14, 2014, 02:16:59 AM
There's a pass that remove hot pixel here, the problem is that Resolve doesn't seem to recognize the data of this process. It's not burned in apparently.

That's not correct.

If you enable the stripe correction, that also includes the hot pixel detection algo. However, it will only become useful after a few frames of training, and it is not usable for tripod based scenes.

That pass does modify the pixel data in the DNGs, so it is not possible for resolve "not to recognise" this. How well the detection works is another question. I think currently it is tuned only to suppress very strong hot pixels. It may well be less effective at high ISO.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on December 14, 2014, 12:57:39 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 14, 2014, 09:33:19 AM
That's not correct.

If you enable the stripe correction, that also includes the hot pixel detection algo. However, it will only become useful after a few frames of training, and it is not usable for tripod based scenes.

That pass does modify the pixel data in the DNGs, so it is not possible for resolve "not to recognise" this. How well the detection works is another question. I think currently it is tuned only to suppress very strong hot pixels. It may well be less effective at high ISO.



So it's a mystery :) I don't know why but Resolve clearly still shows even the strongs hot pixels that mlrv remove. Anyone has make this work?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 14, 2014, 04:00:39 PM
@togg It would be useful if you could provide DNGs with and without stripe/hot-pixel correction so that I could reproduce your problem. Previously when trying with your provided MLVs, it was working correctly for me in Resolve.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on December 14, 2014, 05:12:45 PM
@Baldand I have all my footage plenty of hot pixels and I did all DNG's with your software.
I'm very sure that hot pixel correction doesn't work.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 14, 2014, 05:17:13 PM
@budafilms did you have the stripe correction enabled or not? Did you see the hot pixels in the viewer after enabling it?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on December 14, 2014, 05:40:25 PM
Yes, I did and not. Depends the image.

No, in the viewer I never see one. I had use in the set a macbook pro, so, maybe for the size - or the RAW color.
Only in DaVinci Resolve or when I exported.

As I told you, I don't have anymore the .raw for start to work again.
It's a full length movie and I have 10 TB of footage.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on December 14, 2014, 05:50:21 PM
Quote from: baldand on December 14, 2014, 04:00:39 PM
@togg It would be useful if you could provide DNGs with and without stripe/hot-pixel correction so that I could reproduce your problem. Previously when trying with your provided MLVs, it was working correctly for me in Resolve.

Ok thanks! I'll do it in a few days.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 14, 2014, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: budafilms on December 14, 2014, 05:40:25 PM
Yes, I did and not. Depends the image.

No, in the viewer I never see one. I had use in the set a macbook pro, so, maybe for the size - or the RAW color.
Only in DaVinci Resolve or when I exported.

As I told you, I don't have anymore the .raw for start to work again.
It's a full length movie and I have 10 TB of footage.

Sorry, but if I don't receive clear bug reports providing enough information and sample data for me to be able to reliably reproduce and diagnose a problem, there really isn't anything I can do about it.

Please don't forget that this is not a commercial application, and has no other primary developers apart from myself. I have only 1 ML-enabled camera (a 7D), only a limited range of environments to test with. In addition, I primarily develop the app in Linux, not Windows or OS X. And last, but not least, I am only able to work on this during my limited spare time.

To be honest, I've pretty much reached the point where I don't think I should carry on making and supporting binary releases of the app for Windows and OS X any more. I don't think it is fair on any of you when I am unable to give them more than a quick smoke test. It might be a different story if there would be any other active contributers who could help out with testing and debugging platform specific issues, but there isn't.

Anyway I think the interest level in ML raw has pretty much peaked, and MLVFS is the best option for post processing. So now is probably a good time for me to move on to other things.

Thanks to everyone who contributed feedback. Sorry I couldn't fix all your bugs or implement every feature you wanted. Good luck to you all in your different projects.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: N/A on December 14, 2014, 09:24:27 PM
No, thank YOU, Baldand. You've done a phenomenal job on this app, your hard work is definitely appreciated. Hope you stick around the forums and continue sharing knowledge.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 14, 2014, 11:13:38 PM
My deepest respect for your efforts.
Also feel I could contributed more.
Maybe I could set up a more systematic approach for testing osx environment if you decide to keep mlrawviewer going.
All the best to you and biggest thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 14, 2014, 11:19:12 PM
My deepest condolences (well it's not really dead yet) for your never ending contributions towards to this remarkable app of yours...

I just have been slammed with work during the Lakers season and Dodgers winter-meetings as well as just wrapping up the Galaxy championship run at TimeWarner Cable Sportsnet so I apologize if you felt that the certain few of us who enjoy troubleshooting with your app have been on the down low.

Again as always I'm more than happy to help on the OS X side (such as @Danne) in order to keep this app of yours alive!

Trust me I think about MLRawViewer in my head and I'm constantly praising to others about how useful your app is.

Please stay warm and enjoy your Holidays...

Be in touch and THANKS!

*EDIT*

Just got my schedule for the next few weeks and it looks like I'll have the next few days off... I'll jump on board with this app and troubleshoot it down as much as I can. Thanks again, Andrew!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on December 15, 2014, 12:45:05 PM

You're right, you have stated before that you wanted to end the project with a stable version. 1.3.4 seems good enough. To me it's the perfect app and I couldn't rely on MLVFS. I'm sorry that I wasn't able to contribute more with debugging, university and exams are a pain in the ass, even my project has to be filmed in spare time :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on December 15, 2014, 12:59:45 PM
Thank you Baldand!

MLVFS aint good for us Windows guys.

For on the set work, your program is one of the best contributions to ML Raw video.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on December 15, 2014, 01:58:09 PM

Indeed Kharak !


Thanks Baldand, thank you so much for your work, it was a pleasure. Hope you still stay around with us =)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: timbytheriver on December 15, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
I'd like to also add my thanks to Andrew for a great app that 'gets it' right out of the box. Good luck for the future. :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ikola1 on December 15, 2014, 06:33:12 PM
Like every other happy user of MIRawViewer, Thank you very much Baldand  ;) , this app is such a pleasure to work with and it has given such an easy priceless access to the MagicLanternRaw files with the direct reading. I have used it with my last little project : drag MLVs, extract .mov for editing in premiere, open a linked comp in AE, replace with the dngs via ACR and 50Dvisionlog, denoise, Lut, export : voilà. So easy now because of you. Filming by night during the Festival of Lights in Lyon : no artifacts, no hot pixels, no banding or small pixels patterns. Thank you again and again  :) :) :) !! Check it : www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ljPKYskj8
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 15, 2014, 09:48:12 PM
**feedbacks**

Exports stops at 345 mb's from 3x crop MLV files with Audio being squashed in half due to shooting 48fps (30fps in 3x crop mode) and I suspect that the Audio files are shorter than the Media File itself which may have cause this error... which is to be expected, correct?

Nightly 3288e152d8ae (unified) 2014 Aug08.5D3113

Log file -

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24998329/For_Andrew_12_15_14.rtf
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: pilgrim on December 16, 2014, 01:00:37 AM
Thanks Andrew ! You doing great with the program MlRawViewer. I use on Mac and Win7. I only two or three time give feedback, but really this is a great program. And all my wish already done (LUT, colour bar on the timing and colour correction).
I use ML on Canon only on personal project, many other project on Sony and Atomos Ninja for the reason easy to use for the other crew who are not 'geeks'. But the result of the image of RAW/MLV from MagicLantern which can be seen directly by MlRawViewer is really great. And being able to export directly to ProRes is wonderful, as I am an FinalCutPro user. I don't have time time and resource through DNG files.
I can imagine your feeling  :( ... but I can not help for programming...
Anyway, I always update MlRawViewer, and follow this thread. I still hope that you will continue. Maybe you dont't need update so often. Even the bug for some camera, or operating system, MlRawViewer still great program. In my office I use FinalCutPro, but for my personal project I use, Lightworks, Shotcut and also Blender : all are free-ware. Before, the program Shotcut always updated very often, it can be daily... but since few months it's update once in a month. I find out it's good and I downloaded each month. I hope that you will continue again, but please don't feel a pressure to fix from each bug, it's impossible to please EVERYONE. We are not strong enough to read a complete thread : to find the same problem from other and try the solution from that problem.
Yes, most of the program and activity in these kinds are on the free time  :) :) :) and some time we use our time on it more than should be... event we didn't know if we are working or doing hobby  :) :) :)   So, if you still have a free time please update the program, maybe you find some new function or more interesting GUI. I don't mind the time of release, it can be each month, each two months, each three months, etc. It doesn't matter if there is a bug, we can always going back the previous version as the program is a 'portable' program. If you want to take a break for a few months, enjoy your time...  :)
Again, thank you very much for such a wonderful program.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 16, 2014, 02:12:27 AM
Very well said @pilgrim!

Fantastic colors/lighting during nighttime shooting @ikola1!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ikola1 on December 16, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
@DeafEyeJedi Thank you i'm really happy you like it  :), all the credits to you all guys, i only know myself how to frame some pictures, i know absolutely nothing about programming unfortunately, and all i know about magiclantern tweaking/optimisation, post-prod/debayer/ACR/AE tricks etc.. is from the forum and especially Andy600. I'd like to give more feedback but when something magiclantern related bug i first blame myself and reboot what's freezing ! I agree with Pilgrim too, we dont need weekly or monthly updates now. Things i dream about is the possibility to export ProxyProRes and running the app on my old 2006 macbook. Just keep on dreamin' ^^
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on December 16, 2014, 03:29:25 PM
I will do the hot pixel test this night anyway. Just to understand how it works or not works.

Those are a few frames that I have elaborated with this workflow: raw ---> mlrv --> export dng --> import Resolve --> color grading/correction with ImpulZ and stuffs.

https://www.mediafire.com/?0nt3b606s7v56m6
I've not started editing since I've not ended the shootings, those are just tests :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on December 16, 2014, 06:24:47 PM
@baldand
Could be a VERY good tool improve a converter from DNG to RAW, for archive, apply other conversor for reduce hot pixels, bad setting, etc.

I think you can finish your great work doing this last command. So, if people have more problems in the conversion, have the possibility to try other ways.

Thanks a lot  ;)

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 16, 2014, 07:29:49 PM
Excellent thinking @budafilms!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on December 17, 2014, 01:33:55 AM
Quote from: budafilms on December 16, 2014, 06:24:47 PM
@baldand
Could be a VERY good tool improve a converter from DNG to RAW, for archive, apply other conversor for reduce hot pixels, bad setting, etc.

I think you can finish your great work doing this last command. So, if people have more problems in the conversion, have the possibility to try other ways.




I think that this is impossible (I'm pretty sure) and I haven't really understood the use of it! Anyway it would not be something to take in consideration now :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on December 17, 2014, 08:27:52 AM
@togg
Your are completely wrong.



Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jc on December 17, 2014, 09:34:09 PM
Hi Baldand, thanks again for your amazing app!

So i know the huge amount of work you put into lossless compressed DNG raw and its great thanks!

Is it possible also to do a 3:1 lossy raw compression too like the new blackmagic camera can do ?

My guess to how this works is the same way you can get a lossy PNG compression.. the PNG compression is lossless but the amount of compression depends on the similarities in the file... if you therefore post process the file and make quite small changes to make the file a tad more "uniform" then pass that to the lossless compressor you then get effectively a "lossy" compression.. but one where you still have the full flexibility of the raw format ...  ( maybe even a light and simple noise reduction or alias reduction option may increase the compressibility of the raw files too!)


here is some info on lossy png http://pngmini.com/lossypng.html

& here is the discussion of the 3:1 lossy raw on the blackmagic cam http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29887&p=181686

i think if you implemented this you might get a lot of shooters, not just magic lantern shooters but many others .. even time lapse photographers or other camera manufacturers that shoot dng to start using your app to view, apply look and finally lost compress raw!



Just a thought and love the app!

James
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jc on December 17, 2014, 09:39:26 PM
more here
http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29935&p=181816

and this video at the end is good too !

https://vimeo.com/63892665
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on December 18, 2014, 12:36:48 AM
Ok I've done the test finally! It's a tripod scene but I've only those for the time being, the point is that the app remove the hot pixel when stripe correction is on, inside the app all work well. Then I export a few frames (after a little bit of time) both with and without stripe correction. The dng have differents size so something has happened. But when I try to visualize the two batch of frames inside mlrv itself it still see the hot pixel in both of them! I have to put stripe correction on again to have them gone.

So the information about the hot pixels is not baked in or it is not written at all. Here it is the link with my two dngs export https://www.mediafire.com/?as38dbfb4ic1k83
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: eld3rs on December 20, 2014, 05:04:12 AM
Hello Baldand

MLRawViewer seems to be working well, i just have two more issues.

1. The video is playing but it is duotoned and not in full color

2. I cant get to export, how does i followed this order from the control list
W - File dialog to choose the export directory
D - Choose export type, MOV or DNG
E - Add marked range to the export queue. Will use the source name with ".MOV" or "_DNG" appended.
C - Export all files in the current directory using the current settings
Y - Start processing, or pause processing of the export queue

but there's no progress after pressing the E key.

i have tried on versions 1.3.3, 1.4.2, 1.4.3

where am i getting it wrong?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 21, 2014, 07:11:09 AM
@eld3rs -- Since 1.4.2 is actually the development/testing version with new features and bugs, I would recommend to you to start with the stable series, e.g. 1.3.4. You may need to delete all the generated .MRX files next to the raw files, and the $HOME/.mlrawviewer directory to be on the safe side.

Per @baldand's suggestion from an earlier post up above.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jrcreative on December 21, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
i'm using the mac version with my MLV files and I get very weird split images on each dng file. It's like someone took a brush with pink paint and went across the file. Not sure what's going on.

Any help appreciated. I'm set to the default Log-C.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 21, 2014, 08:42:56 PM
@jrcreative that sounds like you are viewing the DNGs with something that doesn't handle standard DNG lossless compression (such as the OS X previewer). Try viewing them with Resolve or Premiere instead.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: N/A on December 22, 2014, 05:53:06 AM
Just a thought, when I converted the MLRawviewer .dng's through Adobe Dng Converter with no jpeg preview selected, they displayed properly in preview/finder. What if you disable your jpeg preview embed when MLRawviewer converts and compresses?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: toprak on December 22, 2014, 07:15:53 PM
Hello,
I'm trying to install MLRV on ubuntu 14.04. Followed all steps.
Now when i try ./mlrawviewer.py i get the message : ImportError: No module named scandir
I tried many ways but impossible to install scandir.
Is anybody has an idea ?
Thanks in advance
And this is my first post
So I want to say a thank you a lot / merci beaucoup / Cok tessekkur :) for this amazing tool.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on December 22, 2014, 09:39:56 PM
@toprak

Clone the scandir repo from:
https://github.com/benhoyt/scandir

Build and install that, and then it should work.

(You may also need to build GLFW3.1 from git - GLFW3.0 is not enough, and not everything is guaranteed to work with GLUT)

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kakiisch on December 23, 2014, 10:31:16 AM
Hello all!

I just want to express my gratitude to Baldand for creating such an awesome RAW workflow tool. You're a god among men, sir!

It's just mind blowing how well MLRAWviewer works and how mind numbingly straightforward it is to user ML with it. This program is the sole reason I've enthusiastically started a big free time project fully in RAW and I hope there's more to come.

Thank you for all the active forum members, as well! I wish more people would post their private test material here. The footage is always interesting to watch.

Here's some test footage I captured at our cheerleading practice earlier in the autumn (50fps 2.35:1, 5DmkIII): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czKT6YQeyTY

It's nothing special, I just slapped some twixtor (to many of the clips demise) on some of the footage and let the music roll. The action starts about halfway through.


- Kakiisch
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jose_ugs on December 23, 2014, 12:18:18 PM
Good stuff Kakiisch... how was your cam stabilized?
Oh, and what was your shutter... 1/100 or more?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kakiisch on December 23, 2014, 04:10:46 PM
QuoteGood stuff Kakiisch... how was your cam stabilized?
Oh, and what was your shutter... 1/100 or more?


The testing was done a few months ago but I'll try to recall the settings and gear as accurately as possible:

I used the Glidecam HD2000 with a Canon 50mm f1.4 at f2 - f2.8 for most of the shots. There might have been some shots with the 70-200mm 2.8L II hand held as well, I'm not entirely sure. Most of the footage was shot at 1/200. There's two reasons for this... twixtor is best used with really fast shutter speeds, but the environment wasn't exactly optimal for that due to the lighting. I think I was at 800 and 1600 ISO at all times.

I don't think it makes a huge difference anyway, with the background being so vivid and things moving in and out of frame. Twixtor goes ape shit with that kind of stuff so the shutter speed is the least of anyone's concerns.


- K
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kaspars on December 25, 2014, 04:14:51 PM
Hello,
first things first - the MlRawViever is really handy tool (sure, same goes for MLV raw recording capability of ML).

I would like to note a minor issue I get when exporting multiple ranges of a clip:
what ever I send as the second In/Out selction of the same clip, will result in the same file name in the queue, but the queue will effectively export only the first selection I send to the queue.

In the queue it notes correct In/Out frames for any In/Out range I send to export, but gives the same export filename (for example, all two/three/.. ranges sent to export in the queue will be written with same filename «M23-1157_000001»),
then I guess, it encounters the problem with overwriting, and continues with whatever in the queue is next and doesnt conflict with existing filenames.

When I return to the clip later (when «M23-1157_000001» is written/finished, though, I will be able to export second fragment and it will get correct filename, for example, «M23-1157_000002».

I'm running it on OS X  10.9.5, if that helps. I'm exporting to ProRes MOVs w/ C-log, from/to external drive.

Best regards,
and thank you,
baldand!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 26, 2014, 06:48:10 AM
It would definitely help @baldand more if you are able to post log reports?

Doesn't hurt to try...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kaspars on December 27, 2014, 02:18:33 PM
I guess it's quite easy to replicate,
but if it's not a general bug, - sure I could try and do a log report.

Also, regarding what baldand said on undefined fate of future updates,
I am not pushy regarding this issue. It's a treat to have it as it is!

All the best,
k.

P.S. Also, @baldand, it's frustrating to get some 20+ clip render/export queue covering half of the window (at it's original size), I would enjoy it if all the data was in a separate section or window, so that only a clear preview of video remains visible, with no overlays at all
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on December 27, 2014, 10:40:09 PM
Quote from: Kaspars on December 27, 2014, 02:18:33 PM


P.S. Also, @baldand, it's frustrating to get some 20+ clip render/export queue covering half of the window (at it's original size), I would enjoy it if all the data was in a separate section or window, so that only a clear preview of video remains visible, with no overlays at all

shift+tab will hide everything :) I immagine an external window for exporting could be useful but it's not a priority.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on December 28, 2014, 05:40:33 AM
QuoteIf you enable the stripe correction, that also includes the hot pixel detection algo. However, it will only become useful after a few frames of training, and it is not usable for tripod based scenes.

Btw, is it just me or does anyone find that the stripe correction causes vertical stripes in the noise too? It clears up the hot pixel wonderfully, but there's this weird vertical dark stripes in the noise for high ISO. This is on the 7D.
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: senzazn12 on December 28, 2014, 06:06:01 PM
Anybody else have problems with pink highlights on the preview screen of MLVRAWVIEWER? It shows up after exporting to MOV as well. Using a 5D Mark III.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 29, 2014, 01:36:11 AM
@senzazn12 -- Which nightly build are you using for the 5D3?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kyrobb on December 29, 2014, 06:35:42 AM
Getting the same pink highlight issue with a 50D using the latest nightly.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on December 30, 2014, 10:31:06 AM
Even with the Stripe fix enabled?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: fromspain on December 30, 2014, 12:39:25 PM
Hi, this is a great program. But sometimes I have a problem with the resulting .mov videos. In some areas of the image burned a strange stain appears sharply demarcated. It's weird because it only appears in some specific and not all. What can be the cause? I tried it on windows 7 and windows 8.1 with the same result. I use a 5D mark III with the latest magic lantern. A greeting and thanks for developing this great program!
(http://i.imgur.com/CE0NprB.jpg)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dhpdigital on January 06, 2015, 07:29:38 PM
Hi. Yep, I get the same thing. I tested this today and the out of focus background had exactly the same issue cut was bright, and on the cyan side of hue. D.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dhpdigital on January 06, 2015, 07:44:28 PM
Oh, and thank you for the software too :) you've done an amazing job here :)

This is today's test that worked well for me. https://vimeo.com/116058937
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 06, 2015, 08:44:21 PM
Regarding the bad colour in highlights: try disabling the stripe correction for those clips. That code path has a different highlight reconstruction approach which sometimes avoids this problem.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: senzazn12 on January 06, 2015, 11:27:27 PM

Quote from: baldand on January 06, 2015, 08:44:21 PM
Regarding the bad colour in highlights: try disabling the stripe correction for those clips. That code path has a different highlight reconstruction approach which sometimes avoids this problem.

Will do.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kgv5 on January 07, 2015, 02:47:22 PM
@baldand - I asked Andy600 about implementing cinelog-c into mlrawviewer to have fast, easy solution of true cinelog-c prores444,

http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10151.msg137051;topicseen#msg137051

this is the answer:

"@kgv5 - If @Baldand can implement a little change to the backend in MLRavViewer and impliment an alternative 3x3 matrix and lin to log formula just for Cinelog-C we should be able to debayer straight to Cinelog-C colorspace without using LUTs. At the moment it uses DCRaw's REC709 primaries. I will happily provide the matrix and log formula if he wants to do it. LUT handling in MLRawViewer is ok but the colorspace limits what we can do using LUTs - I've tested it with some custom Cinelog-C transform luts and there are issues with out of gamut colors and overbrights, plus a 3D transform is needed for the colorspace transform which means you cant then use the 3D lut slot for a viewing LUT - which is needed for assessing exposure compensation and white balance. "

Do you think you could do that?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on January 07, 2015, 03:08:45 PM

It would be very nice to have this  =))
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 07, 2015, 04:57:34 PM
Quote from: kgv5 on January 07, 2015, 02:47:22 PM
"If @Baldand can implement a little change to the backend in MLRavViewer and impliment an alternative 3x3 matrix and lin to log formula just for Cinelog-C..."

Do you think you could do that?

Though this would be possible to add, I do not currently plan to make any more binary releases of MlRawViewer. As I informed previously, this is due to the lack of contributors to help with testing and support on the different platforms.



Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kgv5 on January 07, 2015, 06:36:39 PM
Yes, i know, but with cinelog (which seems better and better, especially with the upcoming huge, very nice update) possibility to have an instant real cinelog-C prores444 would be a great option, even in comparison with MLVFS (which is great on Mac and ok on PC) and resolve workflow. I am just making movie and using mlvrawviewer all the time instead mlvfs and resolve. It is really great app, please consider this baldand, it could be next milestone. I am sure that with such a complete solution there will be many new testers and contributors. MLVFS its not really a competition, your app is some different and very useful tool which has its important place in some workflows. PLEASE
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dhpdigital on January 07, 2015, 06:49:13 PM
I'd be a glad tester on my kit. Mac & PC, canon 5D mk3. D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 07, 2015, 08:13:25 PM
Quote from: dhpdigital on January 07, 2015, 06:49:13 PM
I'd be a glad tester on my kit. Mac & PC, canon 5D mk3. D

Thanks for the offer.

To be clear, my problem has not been due to lack of people ready to try out the builds I have made.

My problem has been lack of any other people willing to try and make their own builds for Mac or Win directly from the latest source stored in git on bitbucket. In my ideal world, the responsibility for making, testing, releasing and debugging the Mac and Win builds should be with people who use those platforms as their main system for real world video processing and hence can give it a thorough and realistic test before each release. I primarily use Linux, and I mainly test on there, not on Mac/Win.

Building MlRawViewer releases for either of those platforms is not very difficult (though sadly not well documented right now). Debugging of course requires some familiarity with python programming. And you need to be able to make basic use of git.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dhpdigital on January 07, 2015, 08:52:01 PM
I'm a visual person and work with captured and generated image, so unfortunately can't offer any support with anything code based sorry. Would it help if you had donations towards your software as support instead? I know some people run a donation ware type of deal for their work.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 07, 2015, 09:24:48 PM
As always, I'm a happy tester (although I'm no prgrammer) but starting to get the hang of compiling and coding with MacHg (still learning it's kinks though).

PM me @baldand anytime if you ever decide to get back on releasing your marvelous app once again!

Happy New Year, Andrew!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on January 07, 2015, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: dhpdigital on January 07, 2015, 08:52:01 PM
Would it help if you had donations towards your software as support instead?

Sorry, but no.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kgv5 on January 07, 2015, 09:48:36 PM
I think there is an oportunity to make mlvrawviewer to be seen as more "professional" tool by more people, when they will know that raw footage can be very fast processed and - what is important - professionally color-transcoded (and people will know cinelog-c thanks to andys marketing work). With the ability to instant review the footage, easly set in/out points it could be no-brainer for many. Even using MLVFS along with resolve is often more time consuming, especially when working in a field. Many people on forums like eoshd and similar very often mention mlvrawviewer as a new tool which made raw shooting easy as never before. Andy600 -cinelog-c developer- said he is willing to help. Maybe i am wrong but this looks like an important oportunity for mlvrawviewer to become a more frequently used tool than it is now.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: terranaut on January 08, 2015, 04:35:05 PM
if mlrawviewer is frozen in development, does this leave just raw2cdng left in the world of processing  mlv in windows thats still being developed?
seems like a year ago there were a few windows choices, and now its hard to find one still in dev. as future builds of ML come out in 2015, new features for mlv might be added, some might change, and then i don't know what options we will have when older converters begin showing their limits of newer changes/additions of mlv formats
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Lars Steenhoff on January 10, 2015, 09:30:47 PM
When cinelog is implemented I will happily try to build a binary on the mac
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 11, 2015, 02:17:41 AM
That would be excellent @Lars Steenhoff -- hope you're listening @Andy600  8)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on January 13, 2015, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: baldand on January 07, 2015, 08:13:25 PM

My problem has been lack of any other people willing to try and make their own builds for Mac or Win directly from the latest source stored in git on bitbucket.

Teach us how, and I'll build for win.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Andy600 on January 13, 2015, 05:32:59 PM
@DeafEyeJedi - I'm listening of course and like I said previously I'll provide the formula and matrix information to the dev. The tricky part is in integrating Cinelog-C as a separate colorspace option in MLRawViewer. At present MLRV uses REC709 primaries and white point for everything. The lin to log transfers for each option are just simple, 12bit, 1D luts, generated from coded formulas.

It's easy to put different fuel in the engine but the engine itself needs a little modification ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 13, 2015, 07:55:00 PM
Absolutely! Point taken and yes I knew you would be listening...

It's just more of a friendly reminder!

[emoji1]
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tomekk on January 14, 2015, 02:05:03 AM
Hi guys,
What's the correct curve for exporting to prores if I want to apply either filmconvert or osiris later on?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on January 14, 2015, 10:27:52 AM

Having Cinelog curve for export in ProRes would be a great shortcut   =D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Andy600 on January 14, 2015, 12:58:21 PM
@tomekk - REC709 in MLRV and sRGB (default) input in FilmConvert! (but you will have already clipped the signal)

FilmConvert expects the input to be the full colorspace (transfer curve and gamut). MLRV outputs everything with REC709 primaries. Only the transfer curve part of the colorspace options in MLRV is used.

Having said that, you will probably get good results using Canon Log in MLRV but the color will still be a little off in FilmConvert.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: tomekk on January 14, 2015, 08:18:33 PM
@Andy600, thx very much for great reply :).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: feureau on January 17, 2015, 01:45:53 AM
Quote from: arrinkiiii on January 14, 2015, 10:27:52 AM
Having Cinelog curve for export in ProRes would be a great shortcut   =D

That and technicolor cinestyle. And that adobe DNG color matrix thingy.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Andy600 on January 17, 2015, 02:11:58 AM
@feureau - The color matrices for Neutral, Portrait, Standard, Faithful and Landscape are the same (Camera RGB to CIE XYZ). It is a HSV table in ACR or an ICC profile in Canon DPP that gives you the colors of each Picture Style.

Technicolor Cinestyle is an 8bit linear-to-log conversion. It's actually a very close relation of Cineon but less technical and created by Josh Pines of Technicolor. You have 14bit raw files and will output at 10bit or higher in MLRV so even if you could output Cinestyle you would be throwing away a ton of useful information. The Cinestyle curve is nothing special.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mkrjf on January 25, 2015, 02:52:44 AM
I am glad to test / support for 5DMk3 firmware 113
I am using the older version of ML currently outputting .raw file
Switched from raw2dng app to MLRawViewer
thanks very very much for reading our minds
So nice to preview before grinding out the transcode
If you can provide link / process for building on OSX (mavericks apple dev env) I am glad to build and give feedback.
One thing I noticed is that the same footage converted using raw2dng and mlrawviewer - the mlrawviewer with sRGB out (and sRGB or AdobeRGB - I forget) elected in camera (and neutral camera color style) - the MLRawViewer converted skin tone seems just so slightly greener. No one would notice except I was editing and had both clips loaded for a cut between.
Not sure color science for raw2dng was documented - and there was no pick list. But maybe you could provide thoughts. Raw2dng did have a pink problem at one point so maybe that clip was pinker as opposed to MLRawViewer being greener. No idea.
Also, can you support AdobeRGB? I usually select that in camera and for photography it definitely covers a larger color space. I would like to do no color transformations before post - keep it all AdobeRGB if possible. (I post photos to AdobeRGB and film to P3 with a calibrated monitor). It sound like you have access to LUT for conversions - home grown? Just ask as most post houses don't share that info (secret sauce).
Lastly, can you confirm the bits of significant data in and out for MLRawViewer? In another post you mention prores 4:4:4 is 10 bits depth, so you are doing simple truncation of low order bits?
When outputting to DNG - you are outputting 14bits of data into 16bit words?
Have you found that the ML Raw output actually uses 14bits? Any idea if older version (right before HDR version and new file format) and newest version provide full 14 bits of data?
Curious to quantify what is actually the input to color grading when using ML and MLRawViewer with both ProRes4:4:4 and DNG flows.
Mike
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mrtobycook on February 08, 2015, 08:36:11 PM
Hi everyone :)

I've tried to read this entire thread - yes, 58 pages - but still am coming up empty with why MLrawviewer isn't working on my Windows 7 64-bit system.

Anyone have any ideas? This is the log:
MlRawViewer v1.3.3
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013-2014
Using GLFW
Opening CinemaDNG G:\_MY FOOTAGE\01 CINEMA DNG\M131458O_C0001_B16
(24028, 1000)
FPS: 24.028 (24028, 1000)
brightness 1.0
Black level: 0 White level: 65535
BitsPerSample: 16
Compression: 1
(0, 1, 1, 2)
rgb [2.1201173696975864, 1.0, 1.4755856968527232]
((0, 1), (0, 1))
((1280, 1), (544, 1))
(0, 0, 544, 1280)
Crop origin: ((0, 1), (0, 1))
Crop size: ((1280, 1), (544, 1))
Active area: (0, 0, 544, 1280)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 128, in main
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\MlRaw", line 1527, in loadRAWorMLV
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\MlRaw", line 1211, in __init__
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\MlRaw", line 1279, in _loadframe
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\DNG", line 425, in stripsCombined
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\DNG", line 404, in strips
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\DNG", line 327, in readFrom
EOFError
Could not open file G:\_MY FOOTAGE\01 CINEMA DNG\M131458O_C0001_B16\M131458O_C0001_B16.000000.dng. Error:
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 08, 2015, 09:36:29 PM
Have you tried to put your files somewhere nearer to the root and without blanks?
G:\TST_AREA
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 09, 2015, 08:24:18 PM
*Few CRASH REPORTS*

As I've tried to export all with current setting (Press C) which starts the process and usually after about 3-4 .MOV's the MLRV just crashes and I get this report...

Crash Report #1 (http://www.dropbox.com/s/b4qja4msp9xz2hl/For%20%40baldand_2%3A8%3A15.rtf?dl=0Crash%20Report%20#1)

Crash Report #2 (http://www.dropbox.com/s/83p1kqzli384bns/For_%40Baldand%202%3A9%3A15.rtf?dl=0Crash%20Report%20#2)

However, it somehow vanished from my mind... is the latest stable version 1.3.3 or 1.3.4? (I understand that latest 1.4.3 is somewhat Beta)

Thanks @Baldand for your contributions although you may be on a much deserved hiatus!  ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gnoklei on February 11, 2015, 01:12:17 PM
Baldand:

Hi! I have been using MLViewer with success thus far but yesterday ran into what I hope is not a bug but easily fixed by some magic words of wisdom.

When I export MLVfiles to Prores it works as long as they are around 1,5-2 GB in size---

But, when I tried to film a bit longer and recorded a 4-5 minute shot, it would export it to a file not readable by either Quicktime, Quicktome Pro 7 och MKV player.

This is really making me scratch my head!

Have i missed something apparent? Why does the file size matter if it turns out a Prores file or not?

If anyone can help me in this I would be eternally grateful.


/Daniel
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ric.pce on February 16, 2015, 07:36:20 AM
How do we get rid of the pink and blue dots in MlRawViewer 1.3.3 on Mac? I'm shooting on a 700d and there are dots almost everywhere, specially under low light conditions.

Thank you.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on February 16, 2015, 10:34:32 PM
*FEEDBACKS*

MLRV 1.4.3 still crashes when pressing "C" on more large amount of files. more than 15-20 MLV/RAW's.

However, instead as I go file by file and press "E" after each RAW/MLV which seems to do the trick and has not crash as of now.

Strange?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: N/A on February 17, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
Its due to processing newer mlv files, all my recent files export just fine but older ones cause it to hang up. One error I've found is from

AttributeError: 'MLRAW' object has no attribute 'bodySerialNumber'

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: sgofferj on February 25, 2015, 12:31:37 PM
I have problems with MLRawViewer on kUbuntu 14.04. Opened an extra thread here (http://magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14485.0). Should that have gone into this thread?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Tao on March 14, 2015, 04:46:16 PM
Hey,

I just tried to download MLrawviewer on my Macbook Air (Latest OS X, 1,3Ghz i5, HD Graphics 5000, 8Gb RAM, 256Gb SSD) but it doesn't even load, I'm forced to quit the app. Is this normal ?

Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: LRF on March 14, 2015, 06:08:05 PM
First of all, thanks for excellent program. Ability to see thumbnails is great.

I was trying to make some tests with v.1.4.3 on WIN7 64-bit and my results are quite random.
Three test files were located in folder G:\MLV. Two 24fps MLVs recorded in autumn, one 25fps RAW from newest ML build.

Can't find any repetitive pattern; sometimes converting MLV or RAWs to MOV hangs at 0.79%, sometimes at 0.23% or so, and 0:00:00s long mov file is created. While closing, program alerts that there's some conversion going on. Sometimes conversion is just fine. In last 10 attempts I had approx 30% success rate. All initial attempts failed. Recent ones worked fine. All within 10 minutes. Nothing has changed in the meantime.

Converting RAW to DNG doesn't work in my case. Empty folder is created, sometimes static progress information with 0:00:00 is displayed, (usually not) then disappears.
Converting MLV to DNG works fine.

Tried both "C" and "E" keys.
With "C", when exporting to DNG, only MLVs show up in progress list. When exporting to MOV, all the files are displayed. Sometimes RAW file hangs at 0.96% and prevents following files from being processed, sometimes all three convert fine. Once one of MLVs hanged at 99.7%.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 15, 2015, 03:23:35 AM
Try deleting all .MDX files and retry 1.4.3...

Post result.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: LRF on March 15, 2015, 04:40:36 PM
I read somewhere that those additional files that appear might have influence on results, so I was deleting them. Each attempt was made with only three source files in folder.
As far as I remember, 1.3.4 was working fine, when I gave it a short try some time ago.

Files were 650-750 MB each, recorded with 5D3.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Sane__ on March 16, 2015, 04:45:44 AM
Hello i got a lame question.Is it possible to upscale the raw file before export it in prores?I'm using 5d mark II and i find that i lose quality when i upscale the prores from 1856 to 1920 but not when i upscale the cndg files.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: revast on March 18, 2015, 01:13:59 PM
ok, looks like people have to jump over their shadow and try to use Linux ;-)




OR people are willing to setup / compile for their platform - which is not a big thing, but you have to jump through some hoops - if people devote some time to it, it should be no problem to make a nice tutorial with a partly-scripted workflow.

I understand baldand loosing interest - making such a cool app, and then hanging in mac and windows issues others should cope with -
let the master code, guys!!





How do you get MlRawViewer ? - Git 
So installing git is the first thing everyone should do.


What do you need to run MlRawViewer ?
- Python. 
I recommend to use virtualenv (https://virtualenv.pypa.io/en/latest/).


what do you need to compile a (part of a) program - a compiler.
On Win, that is either Visual Studio (Microsoft) or Mingw (basically all the tools from Linux ported to Windows), on Mac there is Xcode.


And what do you need for packaging?
on Windows there is py2exe, on the mac there is an equivalent to make an .app package






Now to make it a more streamlined process to get an up-and running MlRawViewer, one could make different things. You have to deal with the python part for shure, and eventually with the compiler part.


- for the Python part, one can use virtualenv (https://virtualenv.pypa.io/en/latest/) - that is a self-contained python version which resides in one folder. With this, it's very easy to install all the python things which are needed - and all the things MlRawViewer needs are in one folder. One could ship a full virtualenv (remember, it;s just a folder) with everything in it to run MlRawViewer, and just have an accompanying launcher script to start it and automatically update it.

- one could provide precompiled binary versions of the C parts of MlRawViewer - If you really need that accelerated playback - that would be the easiest way I guess. just drop the newest .dll or .dylib into the Python folder and that's it. Or make the start script do that for you - plus searching for the newest version of the precompiled binary.

- compiling things on Mac/Win can be daunting, compared to Linux, but still, it's no rocket science. Making a quick tut for every platform should be no problem. Automating it neither. on Mac, you just have to install Xcode, then the compilation part should already work, on Win, MinGW.

- Having an alias (shortcut) to mlrawgui.py, place that  on Dsktop, into dock (taskbar), one which opens a terminal (cmd window) ready to use mlrawviewer.py - this should be enough for you guys! remember it's about testing a software which can have bugs and changes often! I can understand the everybody wants convenience - but magiclantern is DIY -  so people will have to deal with it.

- Another Idea is to have virtual machines of mac & windows which have everything put in place  - just click a button and newest mlrawviewer gets compiled and packed for your platform;  you will only have to learn how to start the virtual machine - which works on every platform  - and how to get the built file out of the vm. Further this could serve as a kind of virtual automated build server for the different platforms, which could be made reachable over the internet, e.g via vnc, teamviewer. (that would be real fun - and overkill!)


Someone willing to help (or help by donating?, if allowed?)

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 18, 2015, 05:40:16 PM
I'm more than willingly to help but can only speak for Mac's...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: N/A on March 18, 2015, 06:15:41 PM
I downloaded the source a while back and did some messing around with the code but couldn't get it to compile (Mavericks 10.9.5), probably need to get virtualenv and my pkg builder configured correctly. Iirc there's a .sh script in the bitbucket repo that compiles the installer, just have to know where to point it for the tools.
I'd love to see development continue on MLRV, I honestly can't imagine shooting MLV without it. Soon as I have spare time I'll see if I can debug my compiler.
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 18, 2015, 08:34:10 PM
I agree. Can't imagine shooting MLV without MLRV. It's too good of an app to let it be discontinued in developments (although I don't blame you @baldand for losing interest) but as confident I can tell that it will be back in action sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: revast on March 18, 2015, 10:11:22 PM
First of all, as I explain more thoroughly some lines later, it's not necessary to compile anything - MlRawViewer will run as it is, as Python is an interpreted Language - As long as all necessary python libs are installed - and their dependencies - maybe there has to be compiled something..

I have made a basic tutorial how to make it happen in (Debian-based) Linux, which I find is a good start to find out what we will need-  Its not so straightforward as I thought (the program changed alot during last year) but its a start.





open a terminal , and enter:

sudo apt-get install build-essential python-opengl python-numpy python-dev python2.7-dev python-tk python-pyaudio git
This will install nearly all dependencies. You will have to enter your user's password here.

python-pyaudio is optional, python-tk needed for GUI.

Now I found out that a recently added dependency is missing and not available in Debian/Ubuntu: scandir
I have made a package for that :

wget  http://openartisthq.org/magiclantern/python-scandir_0.9-1_amd64.deb

get it.

sudo dpkg -i python-scandir_0.9-1_amd64.deb

install it.


git clone https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer.git

This will make a mlrawviewer folder in your home directory, and puts the latest source-code in it.

with git pull, (you don't have to run this now) you will be able to update your code to the newest version in git. So every time you want the newest version, just do a   git pull  , and you have the newest code.


cd mlrawviewer

Go into that folder.


Also, glfw3.1 is needed, which is not available in ubuntu 14.04, 14.10 nor 15.04  ( !!!!!!!!!!! )
but, no fear, you just need to get it from me:

wget http://openartisthq.org/magiclantern/libglfw.so.3
wget http://openartisthq.org/magiclantern/libglfw.so.3.1


I am doing this here so that these two already sit in the right directory...



python setup.py build

This optionally compiles the bitunpack module; Remember, Python is an interpreted language, no need to compile,
but playback will be faster if you do compile this module written in C.

cp build/lib.linux-*/bitunpack.so .

copy the bitunpack.so binary from the build/lib.linux-* subfolder to the same place where mlrawviewer.py is.

chmod +x mlrawviewer.py
chmod +x Viewer.py.py

make these executeable

Browser.py is mentioned at webpage and in README, but it's not found? strange...



./Viewer.py

run the GUI interface.

./mlrawviewer.py

run the commandline interface.

ln -s Viewer.py ~/Desktop

make a link to the Desktop to run it from there.





This are the basics of getting it run - no menu entry, no packaging. Maybe this is not good for convenience, but good for testing. As explained before, if you skip the part to build the bitunpack[.so/.dll/dylib], MlRawViewer is still fully functional.

Remember: git pull will give you instantly the newest version of the code, and if you take this tutorial and make a script out of this (basically just writing everything into a text file), have a symlink / shortcut / alias to that script to run it from e.g. Desktop, you will always have the newest version available - and baldand can do what he's best in.





Now with Windows and Mac - its a bit more complicated to set up (that's why I love my Linux).


How do you get MlRawViewer ? - Git 
So installing git is the first thing everyone should do.


What do you need to run MlRawViewer ?
- Python. 
As I said, I recommend to use virtualenv (https://virtualenv.pypa.io/en/latest/).

                                                       
THE COMPILING PART IS OPTIONAL:
from https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/overview
QuoteThe playback will be faster if you build the included bitunpack module.

This means compiling the C part of MlRawViewer is only (please tell me if I am wrong) needed if you want to have faster playback - otherwise  run it like it is -

Mac also has package systems like apt: homebrew and port . so these could be used to install external dependencies needed by the virtualenv stuff.

Windows .. there are different ways, I do not know which libraries are available in which form (via pip in virtualenv, or via setup.exe... we have to check this out - it are not so many dependencies so I have hope that we find an elegant solution..


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: N/A on March 18, 2015, 10:28:20 PM
Cool thanks for the type up. I got the terminal bin to compile and run just fine, but I wanted to get the hang of building the complete package and try to see what may be causing the mlv's, and moreso the raw files, to hang when trying to export. One issue seemed to be with MLRV crashing when trying to convert files with insufficient exif data or no audio (I.e. Raw files) as well as OpenGL crashing when using gpu-based processing. But that takes a less busy mind than mine lol.
Title: Compile MlRawViewer for windows 8.1 64Bit
Post by: parxal on March 21, 2015, 02:22:38 PM
I'm trying to compile MIRawViewer for windows 8.1 64bit, but i'mt not a python programmer:

Want i have installed :
Python Tools for Visual Studio (https://pytools.codeplex.com/)
Anaconda (http://continuum.io/downloads) which comes with python 2.7

Opened project

Ran:
python setup.py install to compile bitunpack.c, copy it from "build\lib.win-amd64-2.7" to project root

Ran:
pib install PyOpenGL==3.0.2
pib install PyOpenGL_accelerate==3.0.2
pib install glfw==1.1.1
pib install numpy==1.9.1
pib install scandir==0.9

Downloaded "PyAudio-0.2.8-cp27-none-win_amd64.whl" from "http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/" and
pib install PyAudio-0.2.8-cp27-none-win_amd64.whl

Error on compiling :

"File "C:\Users\user.DOMAINADMINS32\Documents\mlrawviewer\glfw.py", line 49, in <module>
    raise( RuntimeError, 'GLFW library not found' )"

_base_glutInit( ctypes.byref(count), holder ) TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not callable

As sugested here ("http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10188595/pyopengl-typeerror-nonetype-object-is-not-callable")
OpenGL\DLLS folder were empty.

1) Copied freeglut 3.0 dll (http://www.transmissionzero.co.uk/software/freeglut-devel/) to windows folders

Program runs, window opens but stays white and blocked. Error:

"
Using GLUT instead of GLFW. Some features may be disabled.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\user.DOMAINADMINS32\Documents\mlrawviewer\glfw.py", line 49, in <module>
    raise( RuntimeError, 'GLFW library not found' )
  File "C:\Users\user.DOMAINADMINS32\Anaconda\lib\site-packages\OpenGL\platform\baseplatform.py", line 379, in __call__
    return self( *args, **named )
WindowsError: exception: access violation writing 0xFFFFFFFFEA441D90
"

Any help?

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: revast on March 21, 2015, 11:05:44 PM
yeah you need at least glfw 3.1.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: legreve on March 22, 2015, 07:33:06 AM
It might be buried in the 59 pages.... but can anyone tell me, why frames exported with MiRawviewer to DNG is 1.3mb pr. frame and rawmagic is 4mb pr. frame?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: baldand on March 22, 2015, 10:21:17 AM
Quote from: legreve on March 22, 2015, 07:33:06 AM
It might be buried in the 59 pages.... but can anyone tell me, why frames exported with MiRawviewer to DNG is 1.3mb pr. frame and rawmagic is 4mb pr. frame?

MlRawViewer supports the "lossless compressed" mode of the DNG spec, which makes the files smaller without losing any information.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 22, 2015, 11:30:14 AM
Quote from: baldand on March 22, 2015, 10:21:17 AM
MlRawViewer supports the "lossless compressed" mode of the DNG spec, which makes the files smaller without losing any information.
And you can force it to export uncompressed by editing ExportQueue.py at line 471 by changing ljpeg = "True" to "False" save, exit and delete ExportQueue.pyc.
I need them uncompressed since darktable (http://www.darktable.org/2015/03/released-darktable-1-6-3/) (see comments) does not (yet?) support compression.

@baldand: Any chance to have compression option-able? I'm afraid that in the future it might not be this easy to disable it and the darktable devs did not say anything about supporting it in the future ( although as I point them out in the comments there this is in the standard at least since DNG v1.1 ).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: komunakavra on March 24, 2015, 02:44:25 AM
Hi guys,....Im looking for someone to help me... :D

Lets see, I work with a macpro OSX 10.6.8 and canon 7D... and after read and read...and download and test, I have some questions:

1- There is any software that works on my machine to review or convert my MLV Clips?? :D :D :D because I've tested both MLRawViewer and raw2dng and I couldnt see any frame of any *.MLV that I tested. The exported clips appear as black ones, anything of the image.

2- I work with AE CS3 and I've seen that there are some plugins for it. Do you know if they work on my AE version??

Thanx!!

Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 24, 2015, 03:04:01 AM
Which MLRV version are you using?

Sounds like you didn't set the export folder yet -- Try pressing 'W' to set your destination spot prior to exporting.

Otherwise you can try other apps that work well on Mac's...

Try your footage with either @dmilligan's MLVFS (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0MLVFS) or @Danne's cr2hdr-r (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512.0cr2hdr-r) and they both run well!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: komunakavra on March 24, 2015, 04:18:27 AM
Thanx dude, I will try with both them.
I've intalled the "last version" for 7D 2.03 from the downloads... I think that its the last one, isnt it??? this is infinite... :D

Im going to try and lets see whats going on!!
Thanx again!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 24, 2015, 05:12:24 AM
Last version of MLRV would be 1.4.3 -- is that what you were referring to?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: komunakavra on March 24, 2015, 05:46:40 AM
sorry... I thought you asked about ML version!! ops!!  :o

Im trying to install cr2hdr-r but its giving me some problems... after "discover" the password, I finished the process and it says ok... but after put the icon on the App bin and the dash... it doesnt work. More than that, when I try to uninstall it, it say that no folders where found on usr/... location, and the process is finished ok.

So, I have intaled, uninstaled and re-instaled many times and it doesnt work... so Im thinking about going to sleep and take it again tomorrow... Thanks again, I will try tomorrow and I tell to you how it goes!! ;)
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 24, 2015, 05:59:11 AM
Did you follow directions in the "install this first" command line (it shouldn't be asking for password - only for during uninstallation) within the folder before using the app itself?

That's my only assumption at this point why this isn't working for you atm -- it works well for all of us Mac users as far as I'm concerned.

Once you have figured this out somehow... Please continue in this thread (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512.0thread).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: daw1d on March 29, 2015, 04:47:57 PM
Hello, I have some RAW shots from EOS 5D III (fw 123) with ML Nightly.2014.Aug.07. One shot is long (it is split to RAW and R00 files). I tried to export the RAWs to DNGs using "raw2cdng 1.7.0", "MlRawViewer 1.3.3", "MLVMystic.exe" and "raw2dng.exe" and all four short shots are ok but the long one has black level error or dont even export. I tried to fix it with this procedures but nothing helps:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11664.0
https://vimeo.com/97477678

Raw2cdng 1.7.0 and MlRawViewer 1.3.3 gives me black and green screen after export. Raw2dng.exe and MLVMystic.exe cant open the files and crashes. Please can someone help me with this? What can I do to save the footage?

Here is one DNG from MlRawViewer
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33503671/M28-1902_000000.dng

Thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Renovatio on March 30, 2015, 04:20:25 AM
Just "re-installed" windows, i'm getting an error about visual c++.

Which version should i install? Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: theartofweb on March 31, 2015, 09:32:01 AM
How can I import S-curve_for_CineStyle.lut? Do I have to convert it to a .CUBE file? If so, how do I go about it?

Thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Andy600 on March 31, 2015, 01:47:01 PM
@theartofweb - why would you want to do that? The Cinestyle lut is a) very low resolution and b) specific to Cinestyle i.e. it de-logs Cinestyle and applies a REC709 transfer function. Using it with any of the log options in MLRViewer is pointless. If you only want a REC709 output just select REC709 in MLRViewer's options ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: theartofweb on April 01, 2015, 04:28:28 AM
I export DNGs to TIFFs thru Lightroom in order to apply some noise reduction (I can't denoise in Resolve Lite). While in Lightroom, I also bring down contrast (-70) and saturation (-20) in order to make it look like a cinestyle log contrast curve. Finally, I add some (masked) sharpness and export to 16 bit Prophoto TIFF. I just wanted to play this sequences in mlrawviewer and see how it would look like in the Cinestyle lut.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: parxal on April 01, 2015, 06:43:24 PM
Revast , trying to install glfw version 3.1

C:\Python27\Scripts>pip install glfw==3.1
Downloading/unpacking glfw==3.1
  Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement glfw==3.1 (from versio
ns: 1.0.1, 1.0.2, 1.0, 1.1.0, 1.1.1)
Cleaning up...
No distributions matching the version for glfw==3.1

Any help?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: theartofweb on April 01, 2015, 09:48:40 PM
Mlrawviewer does not seem to play DNG or TIFF sequences made from Lightroom, how is that? The TIFF sequence will play as totally black.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 02, 2015, 01:15:21 AM
Quote from: parxal on April 01, 2015, 06:43:24 PM
No distributions matching the version for glfw==3.1
I guess... Get the libs first http://www.glfw.org/download.html
then get the python bindings https://pypi.python.org/pypi/glfw/1.1.1 ( it's version 1.1.1 of the bindings for GFLW 3 ) ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gabrielpaje on April 10, 2015, 08:05:28 AM
Hi,
I need some help for my Canon EOS M with Magic Lantern (latest nightly build-Downloaded). Everything is perfect from installation to video RAW recording until to MLRAWViewer, But when I see the result of the file exported as .MOV, there are dots(yellow, blue,red) everywhere in the video. How can I fix these? Thanks a lot who could send me the link to solve this problem.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 12, 2015, 03:17:29 AM
Latest version from bitbucket, any reason for audio drop?

Loading 'M11-1906.MLV'
M11-1906.WAV M11-1906.WAV
Set indexed. Frames missing: 8
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/warehouse/temp/revision/mlrawviewer/Audio.py", line 65, in audioLoop
    stream.write(dataBuffer[bufferOffset:newoffset],exception_on_underflow=True)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pyaudio.py", line 587, in write
    exception_on_underflow)
IOError: [Errno Output underflowed] -9980
Audio underflow

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Ali Oliya on April 21, 2015, 12:42:19 PM
when i do Shit+L and choose the LUT in the window, it doesn't do anything..nothing applies! what am i doing wrong?
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 22, 2015, 06:35:12 PM
After you successfully load the LUTS -- then simply press shift + UP/DOWN arrows to scroll through the cubes that you just installed.

Please read the first post where it shows all the Full Key Control List.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: theartofweb on April 25, 2015, 06:06:59 PM
What is the difference between MlRawViewer and raw2cdng when it comes to get DNG sequences?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Lysander on April 27, 2015, 09:44:46 PM
hallo everybody, i recently started filming with magic lantern. i had to install MIRawviewer because i experimented with Raw-video and the files are .MLV's. i followed the guidance of the forum member "revast" wich seems to work, until i encountered the following error :
THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED AS: Bestandsnaam is te lang
from: can't read /var/mail/Config
from: can't read /var/mail/PerformanceLog
./Viewer.py: regel 30: syntaxfout nabij onverwacht symbool 'False'
./Viewer.py: regel 30: `PerformanceLog.PLOG_CONTROL(False)'
is there something i can do to finalize the installement. every help is appreciated.
greeting.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: NitromanX on April 29, 2015, 07:39:51 AM
@ Ali Oliya and DeafEyeJedi - I'm having the same problem loading LUT's into MLRawViewer 1.4.3 too.

I press Shift + L and chose the .cube LUT from my desktop, but it doesn't show or apply in MLRawViewer when i cycle through the various LOGS.

I'm running Mavericks 10.9.5.

Any other people experiencing this ? Is there something we're doing wrong ?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 29, 2015, 09:26:34 AM
Read first post where it shows Full Key Control list.

To change LUTS (3D) then simply press Shift + up/down.

To change LOGS (1D) then simply press Shift + Left/Right.

To add 2nd LOGS (1D) then simply press Shift + Z/X.

It's all written on the first post.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kitzie on May 01, 2015, 04:05:38 PM
Hey guys,

I used to use v1.3.4 very reliably to batch convert to DNGs, but since getting a faster machine it will only do a handful before crashing, sometimes with a Windows Runtime C ++ error.

Any ideas on how to fix this, or a recommendation for an alternative converter (for DNGs not CDNGs as I use ACR into After Effects to prepare my 'digital negatives') would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 01, 2015, 07:46:31 PM
The latest is 1.4.3: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Frank7D on May 09, 2015, 06:33:02 PM
@kitzie,

In my experience, ACR and AE have no problem with CDNGs.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on May 14, 2015, 03:39:16 AM
Can someone explain how uninstall 1.4.3 under OS X? the software is stuck, and I tried to reinstall and have the same problem. thnx
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 14, 2015, 03:55:43 AM
What do you mean exactly that it's stuck?

Have you tried removing with commands via terminal?

http://osxdaily.com/2014/07/31/manual-complete-app-removal-mac-os-x-terminal/
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on May 14, 2015, 05:14:17 AM
I mean it doesn´t play new footage. It´s just usefull in the first card, after that the app freeze.
I think some files are in a place like a subfolder, because after reinstall the settings are saving.

Now I am using MLV Mystic.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 14, 2015, 08:30:16 AM
Can you take a screen-flow of yourself reproducing the error if possible?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: alexidoia on May 16, 2015, 06:13:50 PM
Is it possible to add the links of the download page on the first post of this thread ?
I have difficulty to find the last version.

Beside, I have a question to all users. I find it difficult to choose the colorspace that I really need. If I convert to prores, I will be safe with a rec709 or a lut near that. But when going to DNG, I always wonder. I'd like to keep it original and I am not sure what log it is. (if it is a log) can someone tips me on that please ?

Thanks
ALex
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 16, 2015, 06:21:21 PM
Download link is here...

https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads

Please read the forums and/or Google is ur best friend even if ur not sure what a log is...

Maybe check out @Andy600's Cinelog-C to learn more about what it does?

Or here...

http://mikemost.com/?p=251

These two links only took me seconds to find... Please take the tendency to be more proactive.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: alexidoia on May 19, 2015, 05:45:51 PM
Hi DeafEyeJedi,

Thanks for the advice, but maybe my question was not clear enough.
I did not ask what was log but which one to choose in order to keep the original data from mlv to dng.

Thanks
Alex
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on May 19, 2015, 05:56:42 PM
There is no log applied to the dng files. they are raw files. Compressed(lossless) raw dng files, that is.
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on May 19, 2015, 06:05:05 PM
For rendering ProRes or DNG files?

Any log/LUT you choose will only affect ProRes and not DNG files (if I remember correctly since its been awhile I've exported from MLRV) only because I've been using Cinelog-C which doesn't suit well with this particular app.

However, I still use it for previews of MLV's and such... Still a great tool!

IMO, it may seem most people go with C-log colorspace for ProRes files from MLRV to make it close as possible to gain the most for color grade but still lacks proper color matrices that you can get from other converter apps according to @Andy600 that @dmilligan's MLVFS (for mac) or @chmee's raw2cdng (for win) apps which have them, works well and are definitely worth checking out!

You can also play with 3D LUTS within MLRV to view certain looks and colors which may seem cool but IMO it doesn't duplicate the same as if you were using other converters I mentions earlier which included proper color matrices.

Your call, Alex!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: joeydingding on June 01, 2015, 01:35:20 AM
There is something strange going with this program.

I have a green stuck pixel unfortunately in my footage. I hoped MLRAWVIEWER could map it out. When I use MLRAWVIEWER and toggle the vertical stipe /hot pixel fix, it maps out the hot pixel! BUT When I export to DNG it still exports the hot/stuck pixel. Pretty strange! Is there a way to fix this? Rendering with the hot pixel fix baked in the DNGs? Now only in the preview mode.


Who else has this problem?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: TKez on June 01, 2015, 05:24:34 AM
wrong thread
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on June 01, 2015, 09:34:32 AM

[size=78%]wrong thread?[/size]
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: joeydingding on June 01, 2015, 09:06:34 PM
Is there a way to batch export MLV to PRORES in MLRAWVIEWER and how?
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 01, 2015, 10:01:42 PM
First set your export destination "Press W" then backspace to get back to MLRV.

Then make sure it's in QuickTime format not DNG prior to batch exporting (press C) I believe since I'm remembering all of these in top of my head if in doubt then read first post of this thread which has all the control shortcut key buttons enlisted.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: joeydingding on June 01, 2015, 10:05:05 PM
Thank you jedi!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: alexidoia on June 02, 2015, 03:29:28 PM
Just want to be sure :

Using one of the LUT (LOG-C, C-LOG, Rec709, etc...) when exporting into DNG is totaly useless, right ?

Alex
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: KelvinK on June 02, 2015, 04:45:05 PM
Yes, it's useless for DNG.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: keepersdungeon on June 04, 2015, 01:02:37 AM
 Nice player @baldand! Good job!
I have a small question though, as I read that there's a difference from cDng from raw2cdng and the dng, I tried both and in some cases the raw2cdng was a bit better in term of moire and pink aliasing. Now correct me if I'm wrong I'm still new to this and a bit messed up in my head.
So is there a difference with the conversion from raw to dng? Or they all convert the same way and it's the software u use later that makes that difference?
Thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jakewolf1 on June 04, 2015, 07:55:19 PM
I am unable to batch export MLV files with 1.4.3 or 1.4.2.  Does anyone know how to fix this?  I am on a mac 2.5 GHz Intel Core i7 with Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB graphics.  I have set the export path (W) and then press (C).  The application immediately stops responding.  I am able to batch export with 1.3.3
Thanks a lot for any help.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: redcrit on June 18, 2015, 01:37:43 AM
Hey,
1) if I export in .MOV rather than DNG format I will have less information to color correct after right ?
2)  Shift UP/Down does not add any 3D LUT, do you know how to fix it please ?
3) If I render HDR RAW on to DNG will I be able to merge correctly my footage after ? Same if I render to .MOV ?

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 18, 2015, 01:57:19 AM
@redcrit:

1) it exports ProRes422 which is nice but I'd rather use DNG format that way I can export these into ProRes4444 which has more color depth.

2) sounds like you forgot to add the LUTS -- try pressing Shift + L to add them and then try again.

3) not sure. Doubt it'll work with .MOV but if use DNG's you may see flicker because one frame is going to be darker than the other (ISO 100/800 or ISO 100/1600) etc depending on your settings.

If you are on Mac -- try @Danne's cr2hdr-r app which works really well for HDR videos and as well as everything else! [emoji6]
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: redcrit on June 18, 2015, 02:25:12 AM
Thanks for the quick answer DeafEye Jedi ;) ! Really appreciate it ^^

Okay so for 1) you do tell me, I will have more room to color correct with DNG ? Just to be sure :p because I don't want to waste hard drive space for nothing
2) I did not forgot to load a 3D LUT, that's odd because I can activate 1D LUT, but not 3D, nothing happen when I press shift + UP (it is up arrow right ?) (maybe that's due to the fact I have an azerty keyboard, I don't know)
3) Unfortunately, I am not on a mac, I tried MLV converter and the results seems decent, but that would be better if I could have immediate HDR video (even not merged) instead of DNG.

Since you are a really nice guy that answers quickly and correctly ^^ I have an other quick question : there is absolutely no difference between Dual ISO for video and HDR video, these are just 2 names for the same effect right ;) ?
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on June 18, 2015, 03:09:12 AM
1) Only because I like using Cinelog-C and I can apply Cinelog-C's flat log into DNG's within AE but like many others have tried using .MOV with Log-C colorspace and color grade on that but according to my eyes -- things look better when using Cinelog-C as a starting point as oppose to Log-C from MLRV. There's no right or wrong in this...

You are the colorist here. Just play around and do comparisons with test files as I've previously done with myself as well which is how I learned and yet still am.

2) I'm just remembering all of this on top of my head and haven't used MLRV as of lately in awhile but I think it is shift + left and right arrow keys to go through the 3D LUTS... (Read first post for shortcut keys)

3) Ok well I don't know of any for Windows (there should be some out there tho) but @Danne's app cr2hdr-r does spit out converted HDR into ProRes files. Really NICE!

4) Dual ISO vs HDR are two completely different things. Each has their own strengths & flaws. Depending on your wants/needs. Please search the forum within ML or Google is your best friend.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: khail on July 04, 2015, 01:25:32 AM
hi guys where you export where does the exported file go to
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 04, 2015, 01:35:25 AM
If you haven't already, press 'W' to set your destination for export.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: domasa on July 04, 2015, 08:44:54 PM
I exported RAW video to MOV by MlRawViewer v1.4.3. Video is OK in Windows Media Player. But some screens are broken in Vegas Pro 13.0. Please how can I fix it?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 05, 2015, 12:45:24 PM
screenshots?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: buggz on July 05, 2015, 07:47:54 PM
Hello,

This is really great software!
Thanks!

I am willing to try and compile under Windows 7.
Has anyone gotten the complie to work under Cygwin?
I love Cygwin, I cannot live without it, having come from a Linux background.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 05, 2015, 08:10:54 PM
Is there a problem with MlRawViewer_1_4_3_win32.zip?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 05, 2015, 08:21:14 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on July 05, 2015, 08:10:54 PM
Is there a problem with MlRawViewer_1_4_3_win32.zip?
that's here: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads

maybe someone should edit the OP and replace the link from 1.3.3 to 1.4.3 ?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on July 05, 2015, 08:22:58 PM
I know the location.
I asked why buggz wants to compile it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: buggz on July 05, 2015, 09:41:58 PM
No, no problem with the binary, I just read the threads where the author wanted more people to build it?
That, and the CinemaDNG support?
I guess I am confused...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: domasa on July 05, 2015, 11:25:05 PM
There is upper part of Video Preview in Vegas Pro 13.0:
(http://i61.tinypic.com/ir7x9x.jpg)

Rendered video have identically broken image.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: zonapg3 on July 06, 2015, 03:49:29 AM
Hi,

Is anyone having issues with audio synching when the MLVs are exported to either MOV or DNG.

I've used both the 1.1.5 version and 1.4.3. and my audio will be synced for maybe 15 seconds, then suddenly the audio jumps ahead and stays out of sync.

Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dingdongdingers on July 06, 2015, 11:01:55 PM
Nice app. Trying to figure  out the colour space...
When exported, most colour spaces are turning the green to orange, as per image below.
the only ones that don't are Linear, HDR and C-LOG to some degree.
Am I missing something ridiculously simple?


(http://i.imgur.com/jOme68r.jpg)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: david az on July 07, 2015, 12:04:37 AM
zonapg3
I also had the same problem
of sound out of sync
Turn off the fps override
And the problem will be solved  ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: zonapg3 on July 07, 2015, 07:45:18 AM
Quotezonapg3
I also had the same problem
of sound out of sync
Turn off the fps override
And the problem will be solved  ;)

Shift-F to turn off right?

Unfortunately, I'm still experiencing the audio jumping out of sync.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: david az on July 07, 2015, 09:54:50 AM
in The camera's menu fps override off
When it's on
It makes audio out of sync Problem
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: zonapg3 on July 07, 2015, 07:54:08 PM
Quotein The camera's menu fps override off
When it's on
It makes audio out of sync Problem

Ah gotcha. Thought you meant in the program, which I thought I was causing the sync problem.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: zonapg3 on July 10, 2015, 05:20:13 AM
Quotezonapg3
I also had the same problem
of sound out of sync
Turn off the fps override
And the problem will be solved  ;)

Just checked, the FPS was already turned off, so that was not causing the problem.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walrus on July 16, 2015, 11:28:43 PM
"Hi,
Is anyone having issues with audio synching when the MLVs are exported to either MOV or DNG.
I've used both the 1.1.5 version and 1.4.3. and my audio will be synced for maybe 15 seconds, then suddenly the audio jumps ahead and stays out of sync.
Thanks."

Are you importing into a non-linear editor, such as Premiere Pro?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: magicrun on July 22, 2015, 07:38:06 AM
Is there a way to rename the exported file with info like date and time recored. Simliar to how raw2dneg does it.?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jpegmasterjesse on July 24, 2015, 11:22:22 PM
I'm also interested in preserving original metadata,  I would like to be able to use bridge to rename my compressed files with their original date and time.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jakewolf1 on July 26, 2015, 11:05:29 PM
Can anybody help?  I asked before but got no answer.  Does anyone know what is up with the batch file conversion with 1.4 and up.  1.3.3 it works for me but any newer build I am not able to batch convert MLV to MOV.  I pick my MLV file location (W) and then try (C) for batch conversion and nothing happens.  I am able to do it individually without incident.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: arrinkiiii on July 26, 2015, 11:31:14 PM

I would like to help... but i don't know how. This app, unfortunately, as been stop... or maybe some one with code skills can contribute for the code and correct the bugs  =) 
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 26, 2015, 11:31:48 PM
So you start MLRawViewer in a folder that has many MLVs ( say you open one MLV file directly), press W to select where the converted files will be saved and then you press C and nothing happens?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on July 27, 2015, 07:04:17 AM
Try unpausing by pressing 'Y'
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jakewolf1 on July 27, 2015, 07:29:32 AM
Quote from: Licaon_Kter on July 26, 2015, 11:31:48 PM

       
  • W - File dialog to choose the export directory
  • C - Export all files in the current directory using the current settings
So you start MLRawViewer in a folder that has many MLVs ( say you open one MLV file directly), press W to select where the converted files will be saved and then you press C and nothing happens?

Exactly. Nothing happens. If I just press E the mlv file that I have loaded will convert just fine. I just cannot get it to batch convert. I will try the Y command to un pause. The versions prior to 1.4 I have no issue doing the batch conversions. Thanks a lot for your help.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jakewolf1 on July 27, 2015, 05:21:13 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on July 27, 2015, 07:04:17 AM
Try unpausing by pressing 'Y'

The Y key did it!  Thank you so much.
Jake
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jkrimer on August 03, 2015, 10:44:31 PM
My export to dng crashes everytime.

I'm able to view the entire file. but when I export, at About 51% of the way through it stops. I tried mov and dng. The part i need is a tiny part near the 75% way mark in the mlv.

any way to export from a certain part, rather than from 0.00?


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 04, 2015, 04:08:40 AM
Try the latest version and be sure to delete all existing .MRX files within the parental folder prior to exporting.

Be sure you already set the destination point in beforehand.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Tullen on August 06, 2015, 07:48:51 PM
As I understand people have got this working on Windows 10, but out of the box the I only get the following error message:
"The application has failed to start because its side-by-side configuration is incorrect. Please see the application event log for more detail."

As I understand it has to do with the C++ runtime installments. I think I have installed them all but still get the problem. The other guy expressed that installing adobe (premiere?) software solved the problem referring to the fact that they install c++ runtimes. Anyone else that got it running on Windows 10 and know what is needed to get it to do so?

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on August 06, 2015, 08:40:05 PM
Quote from: Tullen on August 06, 2015, 07:48:51 PM
...Please see the application event log for more detail."
What's in the event log?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Tullen on August 06, 2015, 09:20:39 PM
I dont know where that is. Can try to run the .exe file later. Do you know where the log file is located?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 07, 2015, 01:13:54 AM
@Tullen: Try the unified VC+ installer here: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=393405 ( remember to Run as Admin ;) )
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Tullen on August 07, 2015, 11:17:07 AM
@Licaon_Kter
Thanks, that seem indeed to have solved the problem. The program starts as it should. Will test it with a file tonight to see that the rest works too.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: flostro on August 16, 2015, 07:52:58 PM
Does anybody know how to create movs with mlrawviewer that have the creation time as timecode?
Mlrawviewer shows the creation time (and other usefull metadata) when you open a file.
There is a command for ffmpeg to set a timecode ( -timecode hh:mm:ss:ff) but i don't know how to pass the data from the mlv to the mov. I found a few things like burning in tc with the -drawtext command but I never got it working.

It won't be frame accurate like proper timecode, but it would help to sync multiple cameras or external audio with timecode. And its a pity you lose all the metadata once you convert to mov (iso,lens,fstop,aperture,shutter speed)



P.S.

So it really seems there won't be another version of MlRawViewer, that's a pity because it's such a great App. It was the reason that I started to really use the raw feature of magic lantern because it made the raw workflow really fast to use.
But there are a few things that aren't completly work right now.
With the latest build i can't use the C Key (batch export all files in folder) so I'm still using version 1.3.4 (and it's easier to select a target folder in the old version).
There are a few other things but I don't know anything about python or coding in general.
Just wanted to thank Andrew for his effort, it's still the best app for mlv imho.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 16, 2015, 08:06:53 PM
Stuck on Windows?
Yes, see this too: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.0
No, see this http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: flostro on August 16, 2015, 08:29:24 PM
MLVProducer looks promising but right now it doesn't give me real time playback and i have to adjust a lot to make it look good, thats a lot slower than to just batch convert everything in one go.
With Mlvfs you also have to adjust your files. The key for me with mlrawviewer is that i can select a colorspace and just export all files without touching the settings (except white balance) and get decent results.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dpjpandone on August 23, 2015, 09:40:59 PM
Something strange is happening that I never noticed before:

When I first open a file I see the pink dots as usual (EOSM) after it plays a few frames they disappear! Did you implement pink dot removal in 1,3,3!?!?!?  This is amazing!!!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 23, 2015, 10:40:41 PM
Still using 1.3.3? What about 1.4.3? See bitbucket site -> Downloads
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dpjpandone on August 24, 2015, 07:53:23 PM
Actually,  after further testing, I noticed that the pink dots disappear, but the green dots remain. I guess the software sees pink dots as hot-pixels and corrects them, but the green dots which are contrast detection pixels or something don't get picked up by the algorithm... I did not try it on 1.4.3 - I thought 1.3.3 was the stable release. Have you tried it? does it remove ALL of the dots?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 24, 2015, 09:31:24 PM
Yep, crop mode on M.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dpjpandone on August 24, 2015, 10:17:30 PM
I checked 1.4.3 and the green dots are still there... You got me all excited... It definitely fixes the pink dots because it treats them like hot pixels, but it's algorithm is not picking up on the green ones unfortunately... They are a different type of pixel (contrast detection i think?)  They might be hard to see on certain footage, but I assure you, they are present.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on August 28, 2015, 06:04:45 PM
Try to find other soft if you have this problem.
I never found a solution of this dots around here.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on August 28, 2015, 09:02:11 PM
and this is why I don't really use MLRV for converts and only use it for viewing purposes.

I think MLVFS does a pretty good job at removing both pink and green dots from the EOSM.

It may not be perfect but I also learned that the M doesn't like to pointed at the sun which seems to make it even more difficult to remove pink/green dots.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: fizzzle on August 31, 2015, 12:01:34 PM
Hey Guys,

i read many of the pages here, but found no solution or someone, who had the same problem like me. I got...

- Win 7
- EOS 7D
- shot MLV files there
- open them up in ML RAW viewer 1.3.4.
- hit convert (MOV) ...... all fine.

But look at the result - :o. All dark areas are full of red fields. I just thought there is the red dod problem, bu i gotta red field problem. Shall i install an codec to my system?

(http://s22.postimg.org/p53e8pcrh/Fehler_1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/p53e8pcrh/)

Greetings
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: fizzzle on August 31, 2015, 01:10:16 PM
I Just gotta quick reply to my own post!

Thinks just fixed themselfes somehow.... I just:

- Tunred on MLV-Sound into my Camera
- Used the Dual Iso Mode
- restartet my pc

now it works. The footage is realy amazing i got about 14 Stops in an flat image SICK! Thanks to you guys!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 31, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
try 1.4.3 too
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Qiuness on September 01, 2015, 10:39:01 AM
Hi there...

I took 3 videos with ML on my 6D. 1 works in MiRaw the other 2 do not, since i did not stop them in camera and the camera stopped them @ 2.5GB/file
Now i cannot preview them...They work... but for some reason MiRaw just opens black.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on September 01, 2015, 12:19:01 PM
Can you export them?
If on Windows try this too: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.0 what happens?

If on Linux/Mac this: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Big_M on October 02, 2015, 04:43:24 PM
I get the same error as mentioned here (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues/119/no-array-type-handler-for-type) in linux.  :-\

Is there any workaround or version which is known to work?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on October 03, 2015, 08:48:22 PM
With 1.4.3 right?

Distro? Dependencies versions?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Big_M on October 05, 2015, 03:46:57 AM
Well, latest git version. So I guess that is 1.4.3?

Distro: opensuse 13.2 x86_64 with Kernel 4.0.3

Python 2.7.8
Python-opengl 3.1.0
Python-opengl-accelerate 3.1.0
numpy 1.9.3
scandir latest git

But I see now that glfw is missing. Will try to compile that tomorrow
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on October 13, 2015, 04:08:50 PM
I cannot open exported DNG files in CameraRaw or any other RAW editor. What I'm doing wrong? Tested on mlv files on Canon 70D. Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 13, 2015, 04:20:04 PM
Version? OS you are running? CR version? You haven't tested all the RAW editors in the wild, so please tell which one you tried.
And a DNG for downloading and testing would be fine, too.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on October 15, 2015, 12:44:49 PM
1.3.3 of MRV, Windows 10 64bit, CR latest from CC. I tried CR and ZPS 17. All programs are properly licensed. I do not have now any corrupted DNG file, will upload it later.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on October 15, 2015, 01:48:31 PM
Test with MRV 1.4.3 ( https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/ ) too.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on October 15, 2015, 03:48:56 PM
Thanks, I'll try it and send a report here.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on October 15, 2015, 04:58:07 PM
Well... Now I can open DNG in ZPS17, but not in Camera Raw (PS or Lightroom). Here is the file - http://www.mediafire.com/view/7wag72y9ejfotg1/M15-1614_000002.dng (http://www.mediafire.com/view/7wag72y9ejfotg1/M15-1614_000002.dng)

Also there are some pink pixels. I guess it's not MRV problem, but how can I get fix this? Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on October 15, 2015, 05:19:07 PM
press: 0 (ZERO) - Toggle stripe/hot-pixel removing preprocess pass ?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on October 15, 2015, 05:31:20 PM
Zero works fine, thanks.

Please, try my DNG file open in Adobe AE, CR, PP or PS. I would like to know if that is problem in my installation od Adobe products or just a bad exported file. Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on October 15, 2015, 06:17:37 PM
Umm it opens ok in RawTherapee, don't have any other processor on this machine though.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on October 15, 2015, 11:22:55 PM
Please, could someone download that DNG and try open it in Camera Raw? Thanks. I honestly don't know, what is the problem. None of my Adobe products are able to open it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 15, 2015, 11:38:43 PM
Dosen,t open in photoshop. Check with exiftool what,s missing. Also try some other converters. Are you on mac or windows?
Mlvfs, cr2hdr-r on mac, raw2cdng for windows.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on October 16, 2015, 12:32:32 AM
Thanks, now I know that problem is in exporting, because in ZPS17 I'm able open that DNG normally. I'm on windows, so I guess I'm stucked... raw2dng not accept MLV files, right?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: reddeercity on October 16, 2015, 01:29:01 AM
Quote from: Thobias on October 16, 2015, 12:32:32 AM
raw2dng not accept MLV files, right?
Yes, but you can with mlv_dump .exe  download link here (http://www.magiclantern.fm/modules/modules/mlv_dump.zip/mlv_dump.zip)
Or MLFVS (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0) on PC works great
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on October 16, 2015, 01:24:14 PM
mlv_dump do nothing. Drag'n'drop MLV on exe and... nothing happend.
MLFVS have offline download links.

It looks that work-flow with RAW videos is more tricky, thank I tough. There is powerful Magic Lantern but no proper tool to get captured material from that?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 16, 2015, 01:29:29 PM
Try to run mlv_dump from commandline and see what happens.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 16, 2015, 01:52:58 PM
Isn, t raw2cdng working?
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5618.0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on October 16, 2015, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: Danne on October 16, 2015, 01:52:58 PM
Isn, t raw2cdng working?
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5618.0

With MLV? I don't think so...

Quote from: Walter Schulz on October 16, 2015, 01:29:29 PM
Try to run mlv_dump from commandline and see what happens.
Will try google what you mean by that=D
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 16, 2015, 04:32:15 PM
Why don, t you try?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 16, 2015, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: Thobias on October 16, 2015, 04:26:59 PM
Will try google what you mean by that=D

Mark directory where MLV_DUMP.exe in explorer, keep shift key pressed and open context menu. You will see a new item "Open Command Prompt here ...". Now you are in command line.
Type
MLV_DUMP "<path>\<the name of yor MLV file>.mlv"
You can copy name and path of your MLV file by marking it in Explorer and opening context menu while shift key is pressed. There is an option to copy path to clipboard.
In command line you have to use context menu to copy clipboard content. CTRL-C and CTRL-V won't do Copy&Paste.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on October 19, 2015, 07:05:31 PM
Same as drag'n'drop... CMD open for 0,5 sec, automatically close and thats it. Nothing happend probably.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 19, 2015, 07:12:29 PM
? CMD "opens"?
You have to be in commandline interface before starting the command. The black screen with white charakters and blinking underscore sign "cursor".
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on October 19, 2015, 07:49:35 PM
@Thobias,
What camera? Any chance it's a 70D?

ACR simply refuses to open certain DNGs that have "Canon EOS 70D" as the unique camera model tag for some strange reason. You can try running the DNGs through Adobe DNG Converter, or you can change the tag to 60D or something else with exiftool or a hex-editor.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on October 20, 2015, 12:56:14 PM
Yes, it is Canon 70D.

Most strange thing is, that I was able to open DNG's just fine, until I set ML for my needs (I changed many things, but also tried get it back) and also install Adobe DNG Coverter (which I'm not able to uninstall now, it's not in programs list!). So now I just don't know what to do=(
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on October 20, 2015, 01:08:51 PM
Adobe DNG Converter is not visible in Windows program list because it is just a bunch of files sitting around in a directory. "Installation" is - more or less - just extracting archived content.

BOT: If you are unable to access command line interface to get persistent error messages you may just use drag-and-drop and record your monitor with a cam in 60 fps and check footage.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on October 20, 2015, 04:36:21 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on October 20, 2015, 01:08:51 PM
BOT: If you are unable to access command line interface to get persistent error messages you may just use drag-and-drop and record your monitor with a cam in 60 fps and check footage.
Good point, I'll try that. Thanks for tip.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: fxPPC on October 27, 2015, 08:53:41 AM
Has anyone else had issues with 1.4.3 and the new Mac OS X El Capitan release? MLRawViewer was humming along well in Yosemite, but since the upgrade, playback is choppy (on a powerful RAID workstation) and batch export (the "C" key) freezes the app (spinning beach ball). Working on a otherwise stable GTX 460 / i5-4690K hackintosh, with the issue reproducible on a 2014 15" MacBook Pro.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 27, 2015, 09:41:59 AM
Wonder if SIP has to be disabled prior to running mlrawviewer? Depends on if it install alias files or anything else in usr/bin folder.
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 27, 2015, 05:39:13 PM
I think it could very well be related to SIP because I turned mine off after trying to troubleshoot to get thunderbolt to work with a DVI adapter to my external monitor.

This was done before I had installed MLRV on my MBP running El Captain so can't confirm your issue but can't hurt to try.

MLRV 1.4.3 runs/exports just fine even tho I only use it for viewing purposes.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: rick_ford55 on October 29, 2015, 02:53:54 PM
I just downloaded this version 1.3.3 and version 1.4.3 and version 1.3.3 was working fine and then all of a sudden just started creating .MRX files? is there a fix for this specific issue, i am on a mac running OS X
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on October 29, 2015, 04:54:08 PM
Aren't MRX files sort of an index? and neede?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: fxPPC on October 29, 2015, 08:32:34 PM
Still having issues with Mac OS X 10.11 (El Capitan) and MLRawViewer 1.4.3. Slow choppy playback and crashing on batch exports.

As recommended, I turned off SIP (csr-active-config 0x67) on both my hackintosh (with a RAID0) and MBP 15" (with a SSD), and it's still Chop City. If anyone has any advise on getting this great application to work on Apple's latest OS, please share. MLVFS plus Resolve play back smoothly, and MLRawViewer was perfect too under Mac OS X 10.10.

Both machines are using the latest nVidia web drivers, latest CUDA (for Resolve), with a GTX 460 1GB in the hack, and a GTX 750M 2GB in the MBP. Fast storage, fast CPUs, gobs of RAM all around. Wish I knew what to do!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on October 30, 2015, 05:46:25 AM
Delete the app, even in Preferences an Library and install again.
Delete MRX files. It's true, sometimes is a problem.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 30, 2015, 05:57:55 AM
Agreed. When something doesn't seem right. There's no harm in uninstalling, reinstalling and most importantly to delete all .MRX files as well as set your destination folder prior to next export.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: fxPPC on October 30, 2015, 07:44:54 PM
Turns out it is two separate issues. Playback was fixed by nVidia's, just released, f2 driver for OS X 10.11.1. Deleting the (hidden) preference folder fixed single exports. Batch exports are still broken. No amount of file cleanup and deleting MXRs will fix it. Be careful updating to 10.11 everyone!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: reddeercity on October 31, 2015, 12:07:39 AM
@fxPPC, There seems to be a issue with the New Mac OSX ELCapitan graphic engine Metal (https://developer.apple.com/metal/)
There only Selected Video Cards/Embeded GPU's that will work .
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/308051-which-graphics-cards-or-integrated-gpus-support-metal/
QuoteHi,i would like to Know which graphics card or integrated GPUs support Metal  on OSx El Capitan ....
Here's a list of common Mac GPUs that are good candidates for Metal support :
•Intel HD 5000- and 6000-series GPUs (Haswell and Broadwell integrated GPUs, used in 2013-2015).
•Nvidia GeForce 600- and 700-series GPUs ( these were common in 2012 and 2013-era Macs).
•AMD Radeon 5000-, 6000-, R9 200, and R9 300-series GPUs (common in 2010-2011-era and 2014-2015-era Macs).
•AMD FirePro D300, D500, and D700 GPUs (2013 Mac Pro).

Here are common GPUs from Macs that will run El Capitan, but may not support Metal because they lack OpenGL 4.3 support:
•Intel HD 3000- and 4000-series GPUs (Sandy and Ivy Bridge integrated GPUs, used in 2011 and 2012).
•Nvidia GeForce 8000-, 9000-, 100-, and 300-series GPUs (common between 2007 and 2010).
•AMD Radeon 2000- and 4000-series GPUs (common between 2007 and 2010).

You can use Metal_Test by Netkas
If you read Metal supported GPU (http://netkas.org/?p=1405) on Netkas.org they say GTX4xx will work so there is conflicting reports
If you run Metal.zip (https://cloud.mail.ru/public/C6nf/GQb4HZZoH) it will tell you if you card/GPU is supported

I have also read on the hi-end video cards there no difference in performance between Open GL & Metal right now maybe in the future thou.
Plus if you search the internet "Adobe Forum" is not recommending to update EL Capitan just yet , problem with Creative Products.
So if you had no problems in OSX Yosemite , that more likely it's Metal causing problem or upgrade to a series 6/7 Nvida GPU.

Personally I will not update  I'm OSX Yosemite10.10.4 , I always wait at least 6 months to 1 Year  when there's a Version Change
As they say "If it's not broken don't fix it"
and from what I read they made the change to be more in line with there "iOS" devices etc....
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: THERRY_PHAN on November 16, 2015, 11:38:20 AM
Hi everyone,
A quick question: Is this software converts multiple mlv files at once? In other words, it has batch converting feature?
Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on November 16, 2015, 11:52:38 AM
I think it,s one at the time. YOu could try batch files with this.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512.0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: user0597 on November 16, 2015, 05:37:11 PM
It does: "C - Export all files in the current directory using the current settings."
The keys and their functions are detailed here. (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/overview)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: THERRY_PHAN on November 18, 2015, 08:36:21 AM
Thank you for your answers!
Title: MlRawViewer 1.4.3 export problem
Post by: SteveScout on November 22, 2015, 09:46:12 PM
Hi, guys!

I´ve switched to 1.4.3 and this new file browser is very nice. Although when I hit "E" to export a file, it gives me that file dialogue to choose the export directory, but there is no way to set it. I hit enter, klick the mouse ... and it just gets me deeper in subdirectories, but no way to tell the app "That´s the folder, use it!". Am i stupid?

thanks!!

Steffen
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: user0597 on November 22, 2015, 10:24:05 PM
Press W to close the browser. The folder you navigated to is now set.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: SteveScout on November 23, 2015, 11:43:43 PM
Thanks!!!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: PAISTE on November 25, 2015, 11:59:38 AM
Hello guys!
im using 1.3.3 and have a question:
does the viewer doing compression (about 1.5)?
i admited that the folder wth DNG weights around 1.5 time less than actual MLV file from card?
im new user of this app and maybe my question is been answered later but this topic is so big so plese help me to clear this point!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on December 04, 2015, 11:18:32 AM
Use 1.4.3.
How do you export?
What OS?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: shandor on December 08, 2015, 02:01:23 AM
I just checked, and I have a 1.3 GB MLV file, that after being "uncompressed" by MLRawViewer, the resulting folder is barely 700 MB.

I tried with 1.3.3 AND 1.4.3

(Edit:I just did a quick test with a RAW file, and MLRawViewer 1.4.3 makes a MRX file, as far as I know useless. But RAWMagic Lite, turns a 900 MB RAW to a 1.2 GB DNG Folder) So I guess I'll be sticking with that for a while.)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on December 08, 2015, 01:09:31 PM
What MLRawViewer and other converters are doing to MLV and RAW files is not "uncompressing" them like you seem to think. It's simply converting the raw image data to a different container format that is more widely supported (consequently the endianess changes, but that is the biggest difference). Additionally, MLRawViewer actually applies lossless compression to the output DNG files, because original MLV and RAW files have absolutely no compression at all whatsoever, and real-world image data tends to be somewhat redundant. There is no loss in quality or anything that is missing as a result of this compression.

Most people are usually happy about things taking up less space, but do whatever you want. (MLVFS (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0) is a tool that will provide DNGs that actually take up zero additional real space, by transcoding the MLV file to "virtual" DNGs on the fly, though obviously you still have to keep the original MLV file)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on December 12, 2015, 11:24:53 PM
There is (lossless) compression, here's how to disable it: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg142928#msg142928
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 66dellwood on December 16, 2015, 11:30:43 PM
I know the answer must be buried in the thread, so apologies if it is.  Just installing ML on a 5D2 for the first time and am less than clear on post workflow.  Have W7Pro and W10 machines.

Does the MLRawViewer convert the MLV files to CinemaDNG?  Am interested in getting my footage into Lightroom.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: johannsebastianbach on December 18, 2015, 04:52:36 PM
Hello everybody,

I am shooting mostly in 60fps and using ML-RAW (since MLV gives me a lot of pink frames and RAW 1.0 almost none) and was wondering, if the "Key A - Toggle anamorphic aspect to take into account the 1.4x squeeze from shooting 50p/60p" works only for preview or also could be exported directly stretched out like it works already with custom fps. This way one wouldn't need to make a whole new strech-out export in AE and could already cut in the right aspect ratio/without extra rendering.

Second thing: What is this pinkish thing in the middle downer of the green background? I don't think it is over- or underexposed

Third thing: What about this black pixel line on the bottom?

magiclantern-Nightly.2015Nov15.5D3113

tried with both,  MlRawViewer 1.3.3 and 1.4.3

OsX El Capitan

Thanks in advance!

MlRawViewer preview
(http://s9.postimg.org/vefsbxthr/Screen_Shot_2015_12_18_at_16_17_53.png)

Exported ProRes
(http://s9.postimg.org/9dzfvbatr/Screen_Shot_2015_12_18_at_16_27_23.png)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on December 21, 2015, 02:50:58 AM
I don't recommend use for export MLviewer.
Try Mlv Mystic with the same footage, and compare the result.

Change the aspect ratio in your software. Put a lot of shrarpness.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ikoniq on December 25, 2015, 06:03:40 AM
My first post here.  Want to thank everyone who's worked on ML, what a joy.  Also, want to thanks Baldand and others for this wonderful MlRawViewer app.  Really enjoying shooting raw on the 5D2.

I recently got a 650D and am now faced with the pink dot or focus dot issue in my 1280x720 / 25p PAL footage.  Working on a Macbook Pro Retina 10.11.2 and MlRawViewer 1.4.3, I've found that the focus dots do disappear when I disable Stripes and hit 0.  However, the dots seem to persist in the exported MOV.  Anyone have any insights?  Happy to provide more info to help with troubleshooting.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: keepersdungeon on December 25, 2015, 03:45:01 PM
Quote from: ikoniq on December 25, 2015, 06:03:40 AM
My first post here.  Want to thank everyone who's work on ML, what a joy.  Also, want to thanks Baldand and others for this wonderful MlRawViewer app.  Really enjoying shooting raw on the 5D2.

I recently got a 650D and am now faced with the pink dot or focus dot issue in my 1280x720 / 25p PAL footage.  Working on a Macbook Pro Retina 10.11.2 and MlRawViewer 1.4.3, I've found that the focus dots do disappear when I disable Stripes and hit 0.  However, the dots seem to persist in the exported MOV.  Anyone have any insights?  Happy to provide more info to help with troubleshooting.
The pink dot are normal on raw videos though u can lower the chance of having them. Try googling calibrating censor for Canon it's something that takes 30second to do it. U can also try converting to dng and try in lightroom or raw therapee. As for the dead pixels on focus point that is due to high ISO. Try not to go higher than 3200. Hope this helps
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on December 25, 2015, 04:00:40 PM
Quote from: ikoniq on December 25, 2015, 06:03:40 AM
I recently got a 650D and am now faced with the pink dot or focus dot issue in my 1280x720 / 25p PAL footage.
Also see http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.0) or http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0 (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0) ( depending on your OS of choice )
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ikoniq on December 26, 2015, 03:33:09 AM
@keepersdungeon and Licaon_Kter - thank you for the tips, much appreciated.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: BatteriesNotIncluded on December 27, 2015, 02:43:30 AM
Love this app. So very handy and efficient. I'm using 1.3.3 and I've dabbled with 1.4.3 (not too keen on the new menu system, truth be told)

My question: whereabouts is the LUT directory on a Mac? I ask as I seem to have reached a quota, and I want to begin a cull. The Shift+3 method doesn't seem to play in 1.3.3

Thank you! :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: andyveale on December 27, 2015, 03:16:52 AM
Hey there, I'm having trouble figuring out how to get MLRawViewer to set up on my computer (windows 10). does anyone know how to do it? cheers!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: mothaibaphoto on December 27, 2015, 05:54:56 AM
Just unzip  (https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer_1_4_3_win32.zip)
and run mlrawviewer.exe. Works great on win10 surface 3.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on December 27, 2015, 08:44:17 AM
Quote from: BatteriesNotIncluded on December 27, 2015, 02:43:30 AM
My question: whereabouts is the LUT directory on a Mac?
Since on a Mac, any reason not to use MLVFS (http://"http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0) ?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: BatteriesNotIncluded on December 27, 2015, 10:14:27 AM
Quote from: Licaon_Kter on December 27, 2015, 08:44:17 AM
Since on a Mac, any reason not to use MLVFS (http://"http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0) ?

I'm still new to the 5D's workflow. Is this recommended? I chose MLRawViewer because it went straight to ProRes from MLV rather than via CDNG?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on December 27, 2015, 10:46:20 AM
MLRAWviewer is kinda not developed anymore.


For Windows there's the new: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.0


For Mac/Linux MLVFS works better and is actively developed/supported.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on December 27, 2015, 03:35:59 PM
MLP spits out ProRes4444 as well. You could use the logs from Mlrawviewer as well but they have to be converted into 3D luts. Can be done in DaVinci Resolve.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512.0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: BatteriesNotIncluded on December 31, 2015, 12:20:48 PM
Quote from: Danne on December 27, 2015, 03:35:59 PM
MLP spits out ProRes4444 as well. You could use the logs from Mlrawviewer as well but they have to be converted into 3D luts. Can be done in DaVinci Resolve.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13512.0

I'm liking MLP, Danne. Having some trouble with getting it to take my DNG files to ProRes however. I have followed your HowTo and User Guide to the T. All the binaries are installed and moved via the workflow. Can you help? (Via PM or your own thread?) Thank you.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on January 01, 2016, 07:44:59 PM
Try MLV Mystic if you are in mac.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Macy606 on January 07, 2016, 03:45:06 PM
Is there a good tool out there that can export cinemaDNG from MLV/RAW and is able to remove hot spots at the same time?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: budafilms on January 08, 2016, 09:02:54 AM
Lot's of thread to remove hot spots out there. Try google raw hot spots + Magic Lantern

In my case:

- First, during the take: I tried not to work with high ISO for a lot of time. That cause some pixels with problems.
- Auto clean - only the camera do this, not your hands - dust.
- I use to put in the conversors "stripe corrections". I have the hope that this help...
- In DaVinci Resolve, if I have dead pixel, I place a "transparent mask" and apply in each spot some blur, in youtube are a couple of videos. Maybe you have always in the same place and you can save your mask and apply when is a big problem for you.

Hope this help you.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ibrahim on January 09, 2016, 06:21:59 PM
Hi,

Im using mlrawviewer 1.4.3 and from the software I can see that I am supposed to get 4920 DNG images in the final export while I only get .
It is very frustrating...  >:(

I get the following pop up error while the export is around 85%:

Runtime error!
This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way...

The software used to work fine but not any longer :(

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on January 09, 2016, 06:31:22 PM
See reply #1631. But I suppose you have transferred just the first chunk (*.MLV) but forgot the second one (M00).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ibrahim on January 09, 2016, 07:05:00 PM
How do I transfer the second one (M00) in mlrawviewer?
My .MLV file has M00 M01 M02 M03 associated to it.
Don't I simply open the .mlv file inside the software and the export (as long as the M-files are in the same directory as that of the .MLV)?

As for the provided link it seems that that software does not export to cinemaDNG which I have to get for my files to be edited in Pr CC 2015 as it accepts their import natively.
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on January 09, 2016, 08:11:14 PM
MLP (and MLVFS) work well with spanning files.

Do not open those files individually ... Just keep them together in the same directory prior to converting.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: reddeercity on January 09, 2016, 08:53:34 PM
Quote from: ibrahim on January 09, 2016, 07:05:00 PM
As for the provided link it seems that that software does not export to cinemaDNG which I have to get for my files to be edited in Pr CC 2015 as it accepts their import natively.
If you are referring to MLVProduder , Yes it dose export Cdng's New PC Tools to replace ACR & A.E. with same or better results (Without Resolve) (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16422.msg159671#msg159671) download the latest builds mlvp.alpha.build1944 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mr6c9g8u6hji83t/mlvp.alpha.build1944.zip?dl=0) and mlvp.alpha.build2127 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/qckp7txsychpslc/mlvp.alpha.build2127.zip?dl=0) haven't tried #2127 but 1944 works will exporting Cdng's

Quote from: ibrahim on January 09, 2016, 07:05:00 PM
My .MLV file has M00 M01 M02 M03 associated to it.
If you are having problems importing the spanning file .mlv+M00 etc...
You can always join the file yourself on the Command line with simple dos commands
Go to the windows start window and type "cmd"
    Start dialog: cmd
    1. cd C:\Users\my_destination_folder
    2. copy /B xyz.MLV+xyz.R00+xyz.R01 xyz.MLV
where "xyz.MLV" is the new join file

I used to do this before all the extractors did automatically with .raw or .mlv
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ibrahim on January 09, 2016, 09:23:04 PM
I tried version1944 it crashes.

About the CMD:

Does this "
Quote from: reddeercity on January 09, 2016, 08:53:34 PM
If you are having problems importing the spanning file .mlv+M00 etc...
You can always join the file yourself on the Command line with simple dos commands
Go to the windows start window and type "cmd"
    Start dialog: cmd
    1. cd C:\Users\my_destination_folder
    2. copy /B xyz.MLV+xyz.R00+xyz.R01 xyz.MLV
where "xyz.MLV" is the new join file

I used to do this before all the extractors did automatically with .raw or .mlv

mean that in my case I should type :
copy /B xyz.MLV+xyz.M00+xyz.M01+xyz.M02+xyz.M03 xyz.MLV   ?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: reddeercity on January 09, 2016, 09:40:36 PM
yes , keep adding your M0x etc... as many as you have . The most I had to join was 12 I think and that was around 50GB   
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ArthurX on January 18, 2016, 10:34:27 PM
Hi and thanks,
I am not sure if this is the right place for the question.
I am trying to install the MLviewer under debian. But there is a bit of hurdle,
i get an error like this:

Art@ArtBamba:~# pip install bitunpack
Downloading/unpacking bitunpack
  Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement bitunpack
Cleaning up...
No distributions at all found for bitunpack

and he needs bitunpack to build the mlviewer.


Thanks and greetings Arthur
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on January 18, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
Please use MLVFS on Linux: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0


MLRAWViewer is not developed anymore.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ArthurX on January 20, 2016, 01:15:56 PM
Hi Lica,

Thanks gonna try that.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: areito5 on February 23, 2016, 08:58:32 PM
I cant install it in WINDOWS 10 64BIT.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks
Frank
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on February 23, 2016, 09:01:26 PM
There is no installation. Just extract files. And make sure to have the latest build: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on February 23, 2016, 10:19:58 PM
Although, better try to get MLVFS working: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0

This is no longer developed, while MLVFS is now working towards greatness on Windows too.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ibrahim on February 24, 2016, 03:01:31 PM
Hi,

In order to optimized the export speed/performance of the MLRawViewer 1.4.3 what should be optimized on my computer the GPU or increase the RAMs?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on February 24, 2016, 03:06:44 PM
CPU & SSD I guess.


Also, do give MLVFS a try (see my previous post), as MLRawViewer is no longer developed for some time now, last release date of 2014-12-12 should give everyone a hint.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ibrahim on February 24, 2016, 03:38:26 PM
Thanks man.

Does MLVFS convert the MLV to DNG or cDNG on windows?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on February 24, 2016, 03:48:52 PM
Read the first post there.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: sav on March 03, 2016, 08:07:51 PM
Hello, guys. I rendered my raw footage in mov with c-log, but after rendering it in premiere i have horrible gradients. With dng i have not got this problem, but i love c-log so much, that its important to get such image. So may be you can tell how i can got this LUT for adobe products or may be i can do smht to render dng in mlrawvier with c-log? Sorry for my english, hope smb can help me)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: keepersdungeon on March 04, 2016, 03:56:30 PM
Quote from: sav on March 03, 2016, 08:07:51 PM
Hello, guys. I rendered my raw footage in mov with c-log, but after rendering it in premiere i have horrible gradients. With dng i have not got this problem, but i love c-log so much, that its important to get such image. So may be you can tell how i can got this LUT for adobe products or may be i can do smht to render dng in mlrawvier with c-log? Sorry for my english, hope smb can help me)
What's the settings u're using to export them from premiere?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: sav on March 05, 2016, 09:28:55 AM
Quote from: keepersdungeon on March 04, 2016, 03:56:30 PM
What's the settings u're using to export them from premiere?
different) at first i tried to export as usual - with vimeo codec, 20 bitrate. but prores 444 gives much better results. now i solved problem with banding with adding grain. but the main question is: where i can get c-log for adobe? to color raw, not mov
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: aace on March 05, 2016, 05:34:16 PM
I honestly don't see how MLVFS is in any way better than MlRawviewer. I'm not trying to engage in a debate I just don't see how DNGs, JPEG previews, WAV files and what ever else MLVFS produces is any better than MlRawViewer. Now I see the point that MlRawViewer hasn't been updated since Dec 2014, but how much progression has the MLV format had since then aside from code optimization and menu adjustments. I haven't seen much. So yeah it was last updated in 2014 but MLV hasn't changed.... much since then. MlRawViewer allows you to playback real time mlv files on Windows, mac and Linux, it produces prores 444 and DNG if you want the additional workflow and it works right out of the box. No extra junk files to install.

MLVProducer is cool also as it has some color manipulation features and what not but that (to me) is contrary to my work flow. I say all that to say this. Each of these programs were released free and have their own quirks. It's not necessary to downplay one app because it wasn't updated in a few years if the technology it supports hasn't changed much since it's last update.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 05, 2016, 07:20:36 PM
With MLVFS you don't need to extract the files somewhere else.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: markodarko on March 14, 2016, 07:39:49 PM
Hi there,

I'm not sure if you're (baldand) still active but I would just like to say that I think that MLRawViewer is the ONLY reason it makes sense to shoot in RAW with ML from a workflow perspective. It's such a powerful application once you get to know it. At first it doesn't seem like much but once you learn all the shortcut keys and discover the power of setting In-Out points, matching external audio and batch processing an entire folder it makes the RAW workflow a piece of cake - let alone the ability to immediately preview and SEE what you've just shot in REAL TIME by plugging your CF card into your computer (which makes checking takes painless) or the fact that it can output ProRes 4444 in a variety of LOG formats and hence cutting out so many other extra steps in other programs!

I tried many different solutions when I was researching the best workflow for dealing with ML files after shooting them and, bar none, there is nothing that comes close to saving time and effort than MLRawViwer. Most solutions involved converting to DNG files then opening in DaVinci Resolve to apply a LOG profile and then exporting to ProRes 4444 from there - but even then you'd still have to align your audio in the NLE. Your program does it all, elegantly and without fuss.

So... Thank you so much for developing this program. You've obviously spent a lot of time on it and it hasn't gone unnoticed.

All the best,

Mark.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: flostro on March 14, 2016, 10:39:36 PM
I wouldn't say it's the 'only' reason for me to shoot raw, but for me it was as well one of the main reasons to get further into ML-Raw. When all your MLVs are indexed it is even faster to look through your raw files, then through your canon h264 movs with the quicktime player, and with all metadata + histogram.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: kidfob on March 16, 2016, 09:21:56 AM
I agree mlRAWViewer is amazing and my tool of choice. i hope badland makes it open source and development continues.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 16, 2016, 09:33:16 AM
Quote from: kidfob on March 16, 2016, 09:21:56 AM
I agree mlRAWViewer is amazing and my tool of choice. i hope badland makes it open source and development continues.
It is open-source already: https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: markodarko on March 17, 2016, 05:04:21 AM
Well, in an unexpected turn of events I'm now no longer using MLRawViewer for exporting to ProRes. Basically, I ran into a bug where it seems that individual audio slip data and In-Out export points are ignored during batch export and as I have better things to do than sit in front of my laptop and choosing the next file to render I started looking into things a bit deeper.

I discovered on this forum that MLRawViewer uses ffmpeg to render ProRes 4444 and that doesn't actually render as 16bit but 10bit (I checked on ffmpeg's website). I know the end result will probably be 8bit but throwing away billions of colour data before grading didn't fill me with joy. This on its own was enough for me to re-think my workflow and as of yesterday I've been trying out MLVFS, opening the cDNG files directly in DaVinci Resolve 12 Lite and creating timelines within Resolve that I can render as many times as I like - for example I could render ProRes 422 Proxy files for quick editing and then re-render as ProRes 4444 XQ for final output.

So far it has been quite a steep learning curve (and a slow one as I don't have a very powerful computer for running Resolve, but it doesn't need to be as I don't need to be able to play things in real time) but here's what I've found so far...

1. MLRawViewer's built-in LUTs are excellent. Being able to export as S-Log2 or Log-C is so easy. Opening cDNG files in Resolve however is a bit of a color management nightmare to the uninitiated (me). Having said that, I think I've got things sorted now:
- Resolve Timeline: Rec.709 Gamma 2.4
- Resolve Colorspace: BMDFilm
- 3D Input LUT: BMD Film to VisionLOG LUT (not as good as S-Log2 in my humble opinion but this is the best LOG starting point I could come up with, although this may change as I learn more about Resolve)

2. Resolve is slooooooow to work in on my mid-2010 MBP i7 with 8Gb RAM / 2TB SSD / 512Mb NVidia GFX, but that's to be expected judging by the specs posted on BlackMagic's website that you actually need to run things (and I guess that some of the speed loss will be due to MLVFS?). Luckily all I need to be able to do is create timelines, put clips on there, grade and render.

3. The image quality is superb (I'm not sure why people say that the debayering is rubbish in Resolve?). I rendered out a clip with the closest colour grade I could make in Resolve to match a clip which was exported from MLRawViewer and then graded in FCPX and I can categorically say that grading the native RAW cDNG files in Resolve produces a far superior result than files that are graded in FCPX from 10bit MLRawViewer ProRes files. You seem to be able to "push" the levels far more before the image degrades. Makes sense really.

4. My Resolve project will contain several timelines with clips that have been trimmed so that only the needed parts are rendered - saving disk space. You can also align audio to the clips.

5. A proper render queue. You can add as many timelines to the render queue and render out individual clips with any name you like which is one of the main features I was looking for so that  I can just press "start render" and not have to be there to open another file when one is finished rendering.

6. The whole workflow process takes longer than pressing "E" on MLRawViewer, but in my opinion it's worth it because you can grade the footage before you even start cutting (if only to colour balance) and not have to grade in FCPX meaning that FCPX will be more responsive as it won't have to render LUTs or colour corrections, just edits. When I've finished my edit I can go back to Resolve and do a proper grade and then simply re-render and replace the initial MOVs. (If I could play things in realtime I wouldn't even need FCPX or to render out the clips at all!)

Personally, I'm glad that MLRawViewer experienced that bug as I wouldn't have looked into this solution (or discovered that the ProRes files it produces are only 10bit) as I believe that although a little bit more time-consuming (due to my system specs) it is far more flexible in the long run.

Having said that, MLRawViewer is still an indispensable tool and I still stand by my initial statement a few days ago and that without it, shooting RAW would be a chore. Just being able to view what you've shot in realtime by sticking your CF card into your laptop is absolutely fantastic and I shall be using it in conjunction with MLVFS & Resolve for the foreseeable future I'm sure, just not for exporting from MLVs.

Cheers,

Mark.
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on March 17, 2016, 08:00:58 AM
MLRV (for viewing purpose) + MLVFS (or MLP for Dual-ISO/HDR stuff) + DR12's quick workflow (or AE for better details IMO at the cost of longer rendering times especially @ ProRes4444XQ) = Pure Magic.

Jm2c.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: markodarko on March 18, 2016, 02:46:01 AM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on March 17, 2016, 08:00:58 AM
or AE for better details IMO at the cost of longer rendering times especially @ ProRes4444XQ

I've not tried the AE approach yet but I will give it a go. As I'm right at the beginning of shooting my feature I think it's worth exploring all avenues to get the best workflow that works for me before getting set into a way of working which I regret later - although having said that, I don't particularly like AE so I may try Lightroom instead - I take it they both use ACR in the same way?

Can't see MLRawViewer not being part of the workflow though!  :)

Cheers,

Mark.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: markodarko on March 18, 2016, 03:19:31 AM
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Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: s8film40 on March 30, 2016, 10:37:36 PM
I dowloaded this program it worked great. Then I went out shot some test footage and when I get back it won't let me export the footage. I click the + icon and the only thing that happens is it creates a small file with the same name and .MRX. Any ideas what happened? I'm using it on mac, tried deleting it and reinstalling it but nothing seems to work.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on March 31, 2016, 10:09:03 AM
The small files are created on open anyway.

What format did you choose to export in?
Did you choose the folder where to export?

Is MLVFS (http://"http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0") not working for you?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: s8film40 on March 31, 2016, 02:53:30 PM
I tried exporting as MOV and DNG neither worked. I'm not familiar with MLVFS.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 01, 2016, 10:06:26 AM
Quote from: s8film40 on March 31, 2016, 02:53:30 PM
I'm not familiar with MLVFS.
Get.
MLRawViewer is no longer developed since Dec 2014.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: TKez on April 04, 2016, 01:39:17 PM
In my experience...

MLRawviewer
-Fast / Stable / Crossplatform . Great for quickly going through a card full of MLVs as you can preview and export only what you need very easily.
-It's mostly keyboard controlled though which can be annoying if you forget the keys.

MLVFS
-More thorough options for things like Dual ISO and be-banding
-Great idea in theory using a virtual file system, but using it in this way is painfully slow. Forget working in Resolve like this. You'll have to drag the DNGs to a real folder to get reasonable speed. If you're doing the AE/ACR method, you'l be used to a painfully slow conversion process anyway so you may not notice.

If you want a fast workflow while still keeping 14bit raw, you need to get the cDNGs to a real folder on a hard drive, preferable SSD.
You can either do this by just going through each shot in MLRawviwer and pressing 'E' to add to the export queue.
Or, using MLVFS and dragging the cDNGs from the virtual drive created by MacFuse to a real drive.
If you have Resolve configured for performance, they should lay in realtime without conversion.
DON'T attempt this using just MLVFS's virtual DNGs though, it's a joke.

I'd say, unless you have banding issues or are using Dual ISO, just export through MLRawViewer. It's a lot less steps to get cDNGs and no 3rd party software to install (MacFuse).


Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on April 04, 2016, 05:39:41 PM
Quote from: TequilaKez on April 04, 2016, 01:39:17 PM
Great idea in theory using a virtual file system, but using it in this way is painfully slow.
Quote from: TequilaKez on April 04, 2016, 01:39:17 PM
DON'T attempt this using just MLVFS's virtual DNGs though, it's a joke.
Nonsense, your post is what is a joke. MLVFS is extremely fast, and myself (and countless others) get real-time speed. If you are having issues, where is your bug report?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 04, 2016, 09:30:59 PM
Quote from: TequilaKez on April 04, 2016, 01:39:17 PM
If you want a fast workflow while still keeping 14bit raw, you need to get the cDNGs to a real folder on a hard drive, preferable SSD.
So why not host the MLV on a SSD then?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: TKez on April 05, 2016, 01:35:48 AM
QuoteNonsense, your post is what is a joke. MLVFS is extremely fast, and myself (and countless others) get real-time speed. If you are having issues, where is your bug report?

Well in my experience with Resolve, I could get very close to realtime playback from DNGs exported to a real (non SSD) drive. When I tried this with the same DNGs directly from the MLVFS virtual drive, I could get only barely a few fps which wasn't usable for me
I did not put this down to a bug, but rather assumed there must be too much extra overhead from the virtual file system converting between MLV and cDNG 'on the fly'.

I havne't got MacFuse installed right now so I can't retest, but if you are saying that no body else notices any different in speed between real and virtual files, I'm open to it being a specific issue with my system.

The only thing I can think of is that, running on a 1G Radeon HD6870 didn't give enough hardware acceleration for Resolve so was maxing out CPU.
In that case maybe the added CPU overhead of the 'on the fly' conversion was just too much.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on April 05, 2016, 07:33:12 PM
The main factor for speed in MLVFS is the processing options you have selected (the overhead of the virtual file system and simple MLV->DNG is quite low, typically below 30% of one CPU core). Many users enable these willy-nilly without realizing that some of them add quite a bit of overhead, and without understanding what they do, and when they aren't really needed. So typically you leave everything off until you are ready to render, then turn on just the options you need.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: BMSmile on April 10, 2016, 03:26:17 AM
Why after exporting .mlv to .dng sequence via MlRawViewer, output folder is 2x times lighter than original .mlv file? >:(
If there'll be option for lossless exporting to .dng (like via MLVMystic), then MLRV'll be my all-in-one tool ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 11, 2016, 12:19:37 AM
Quote from: BMSmile on April 10, 2016, 03:26:17 AM
If there'll be option for lossless exporting to .dng (like via MLVMystic), then MLRV'll be my all-in-one tool ;)
DNG export is lossless.
FYI, DNGs get compressed but with a lossless compression (you can even disable that: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg142928#msg142928 )

Now, that being said, any reason not to use MLVFS (http://"http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0") already?
Title: DNG Compression disable. MlRawViewer 1.3.3
Post by: StudioKix on April 12, 2016, 02:41:44 AM
this is a brilliant tool; shame its not being developed any more!
it still seems to be working for me under mac osx yosemite and I really like it!

only shortfall is that the dng files coming out of this are compressed, which is not supported by many programs.

while reading through this topic I saw a few people commenting that the compression can be disabled
and even one instruction... however it seems I'm being a bit thick here... the described files dont seem to exist in the package directory...

is there anyone here who would be willing to elaborate on how to disable the dng compression?
it would be hugely helpful make this a very very convenient goto tool... for me at least...

I do alot of timelapsing etc. hence looking for a way to go through photosoftware rather than film software.

any hints, tips or full blown tutorials greatly appreciated!



Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on April 12, 2016, 09:37:12 AM
Can't help you with that, you should be able to fix it for your platform, clone the repo and the dependencies, edit that file, re-compile the app.

Now, that being said, any reason not to use MLVFS already?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Roberto Mena on May 20, 2016, 08:31:23 AM
I was using Mlviewer and halfway through looking/converting my mlv files on it, it stopped working for the remaining mlv files. What is weird though is that any mlv files I had already looked at or converted to dng's I am still able to make Mlviewer work with those mlv files. I rebooted my MacBook Pro 15" a couple of times and still can't get the remaining mlv files to work with Mlviewer. Please help me. Thanks.

P.S. I could not find a thread regarding this. 
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Roberto Mena on May 20, 2016, 08:36:51 AM
P.P.S

I don't like using MLVFS because the DNG files disappear when I turn off my MacBook Pro, even if I use them in Premiere Pro and save the project, even then when I reboot, they are gone. If there was a way where I could grab and save the DNG files from MLVFS I would use it over Mlviewer. Is there way to do that in MLVFS? 
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on May 20, 2016, 09:13:15 AM
You can drag the folders from MLVFS to a directory and this converts the files to physical dng files.
What happens if you rebuild your mlvfs project by ejecting and erasing your idx files? 
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: markodarko on May 20, 2016, 11:49:47 AM
The point of MLVFS is that you DON'T have to convert (and hence have two lots of files on your system).

You just need to ensure that you mount the folders that contain your MLV files before opening premiere pro.


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Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on May 20, 2016, 12:56:38 PM
You can make a startup script that launches MLVFS
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Roberto Mena on May 20, 2016, 05:29:26 PM
Thanks Danne for the help but what do you mean by saying that I "can drag the folders from MLVFS to a directory and this converts the files to physical dng files." What do mean by "directory" and how do you drag the files off of MLVFS and from where exactly in MLVFS? Because I've tried grabbing the DNG files when I see them appear when I import them into Premiere Pro but I can't drag and or copy them so I can't grab them.

"What happens if you rebuild your mlvfs project by ejecting and erasing your idx files?" What are "idx" files? And how do I rebuild my MLVFS project?

Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on May 20, 2016, 06:05:22 PM
This thread has gotten way OT.

MLVFS is a service that makes the operating system think you inserted a disk into your computer containing DNG files. Rather than working like a real disk driver that sends file data from a physical disk, MLVFS reads MLV files from some real physical directory (aka folder) on your hard drive that you point it to and converts them to DNG 'on the fly'. This is the same way "mounting a disk image" works (if you don't know what that means, google it).

Once you launch MLVFS a new "drive" should show up on your computer. The drive is "mounted" to the directory you specify. So to get to it, simply navigate to the empty mount directory you selected when launching MLVFS. You'll notice that it is no longer empty, but contains the contents of the "disk".

When you reboot your computer, MLVFS has to shutdown. This is equivalent to physically removing a disk from your computer (you are removing the MLVFS "disk"). If you have a premiere pro project that uses assets (aka files) contained on a "disk", and you start it up without the disk inserted, it will complain that it can't find the files (this is what is happnening to you). To prevent that, you would simply make sure to insert the disk before launching the premiere project. To "insert the disk" that is MLVFS, simply launch MLVFS like you did previously.

TLDR:
All you need to do is launch MLVFS again after you reboot (the same way you did the first time), before you start Premiere Pro. And like I mentioned previously, you can make this automatic by creating a startup script that does it for you.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Roberto Mena on May 20, 2016, 07:14:35 PM
I love that the techs on this forum are so super knowledgable and are also eager to help. This hasn't been usually the case in the real wold, so kudos!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: fotorebelion on May 23, 2016, 05:36:36 PM
I am having problems to use this.. the Python for like Linux crashes with a gl error
And when I use wine for the windows version.. the dots don really go away..and the dng. Files are pink!?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Roberto Mena on May 24, 2016, 06:12:38 AM
"I was using Mlviewer and halfway through looking/converting my mlv files on it, it stopped working for the remaining mlv files. What is weird though is that any mlv files I had already looked at or converted to dng's I am still able to make Mlviewer work with those mlv files. I rebooted my MacBook Pro 15" a couple of times and still can't get the remaining mlv files to work with Mlviewer. Please help me. Thanks."

I found a solution to my own question. I took the MLV files that where no longer working with Mlviewer (on my CF card) and put them on a different folder on my portable HD and that fixed the issue and am able to work with the MLV files in Mlviewer. 
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 24, 2016, 08:39:01 AM
Quote from: fotorebelion on May 23, 2016, 05:36:36 PM
I am having problems to use this.. the Python for like Linux crashes with a gl error
And when I use wine for the windows version.. the dots don really go away..and the dng. Files are pink!?
MLVFS does not cover your needs?

Did you get all the needed stuff? ( GLFW? Scandir? etc )
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: fotorebelion on May 25, 2016, 04:40:43 PM
I havent tried MLVFS.. i will look in to this..

what other stuff? i installed the dependancies i have found mentioned and did the python build..  what Scandir?  when i run ./mlrawviewer.py from directory the gui window pops up and i can naviage to my MLV files.. but when play it crashes to a black screen
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: vtheroc on May 25, 2016, 08:32:27 PM
Quick question.  Am I able to get audio out from my 5D markiii when using magic lantern in raw MLV mode I have MIRawView 1.4.3 installed in my camera?  If so how? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 26, 2016, 11:10:55 AM
Quote from: vtheroc on May 25, 2016, 08:32:27 PM
Quick question.  Am I able to get audio out from my 5D markiii when using magic lantern in raw MLV mode
For recording sound when recording RAW: be sure to also load the module MLV_SND, restart camera and enable Audio recording
Or did you men something else?

Quote from: vtheroc on May 25, 2016, 08:32:27 PM
I have MIRawView 1.4.3 installed in my camera
Wat?Not really...

Quote from: vtheroc on May 25, 2016, 08:32:27 PM
  If so how? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
It should just work
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on May 28, 2016, 02:36:22 PM
@Licaon_Kter The reasons that prevented me from switching to MLVFS are a lot: I have a computer not super powerfull, I like to make immediatelly a selection and a backup exporting the DNGs with MLRV, I have a 5d II and MLV sucked a little bit maybe now with MLV Lite is better.

Have I missed something? I've not comeback to it recently.


edit: also 1.3.3 now stuck itself if you skip to next or previous video while playback is active. Damn I'd really pay for the software if someone would take the development back!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on May 28, 2016, 06:10:55 PM
Last version is 1.4.3.

Once MLVFS opens a file, you can copy DNGs from there, basically like exporting them from MLRAWviewer.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on May 30, 2016, 12:41:35 PM
I remember having problems with 1.4.3, I'll try it again mmm
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ibrahim on July 03, 2016, 08:23:41 PM
Hi,

Using v.1.4.3 I'm trying to use log-c as the curve followed by two 3D luts: M31-log32 followed by M31-Rec709_32
Is there a way to use two 3D luts in this application?

I don't want to do any CC or C grading in any video-editing software only in Lightroom after having exported MLV to DNG.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on July 03, 2016, 08:42:19 PM
Check the full key control list in first post.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: domasa on July 05, 2016, 11:10:58 AM
I have more than 1TB *.RAW videos with *.MRX files.
How can I trim all files? (I set input and output for most videos in MlRawViewer.)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: ibrahim on July 09, 2016, 06:17:09 AM
I am a bit uncertain which of my two workflows are better in term of optimizing the picture quality and retain as much detail as possible.

Workflow 1

Using v.1.4.3 apply log-c and the 3D luts osiris M31-log32 export to cDNG
Import i Lr for complete color correction/grading.
Import in AE and apply osiris M31-Rec.709_32 (not 100% opacity but less)

Workflow 2

Using v.1.4.3 apply log-c export to cDNG
Import i Lr, apply visionlog and a full color correction/grading.
Import in AE and apply first osiris M31-log32 and then osiris M31-Rec.709_32 (not 100% opacity but less)

I've read that one cannot apply two logs after another (log-C and then visionlog). Is this true? If so does it imply that workflow 1 is the best approach?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dratif on July 26, 2016, 03:10:44 AM
Does MLRawViewer deteriorate quality after conversion?

For some reason I feel like that.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on July 26, 2016, 01:07:59 PM
Conversion to what? Define "quality". Post examples. Describe your workflow. We care about facts not feelings.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dratif on July 27, 2016, 05:12:49 AM
Quote from: dmilligan on July 26, 2016, 01:07:59 PM
Conversion to what? Define "quality". Post examples. Describe your workflow. We care about facts not feelings.

Thanks for your response.

My work flow is MLV to Premiere.

By feeling I meant visual generation loss.

But today I felt much enhancement using MLVP to Camera Raw to Premiere.

Got this output https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8cYkzNSD3o

Because I have been fighting with pink frames and extended noise. Does it have to do anything with settings or just MLV could be the reason?

Also I felt much improvement in quality after using MLV 1.4.3 so is there any reality attached or facts to back up?
I don't know how to quantify pixellation in figures.

What is the standards workflow for the best visual treat or output or least drop so to say.

Thanks again. 

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: reddeercity on July 27, 2016, 07:34:57 AM
@dratif I can't understand why you are using old outdate ( not to mention very time consuming) workflow .
The quickest and yet the most precise workflow has always been MLVFS (cdng on the fly convertor) http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0
Cross platform (PC & Mac) Just mount the MLV and import Cdng in to Premiere Pro or BM Resolve no need to waste time converting .
This is the Gold Standard for file extraction . A trusted professional workflow I can be working with ML raw file with correct audio sync in least then 2min in resolve.
Important to my workflow as I need quick turn around , I do mainly news/documentaries pieces.
Or the other amazing fast raw workflow in which you can fully grade your MLV or Raw ver. 1.0  files and export as a ProRes , DNxHD , Tiff , Png's , H264  and of course Cdng's  then try out
MLVProducer http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.0  Originally it's a PC app but will run under Wine in Mac OSX
This post explains how get MLVProducer working with Wine in OSX  http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.msg151403#msg151403

And from my understanding MLRawViewer exports lossless JPEG Compressed DNG's read the following posts
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg142925#msg142925
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg142928#msg142928

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dratif on July 27, 2016, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: reddeercity on July 27, 2016, 07:34:57 AM
@dratif I can't understand why you are using old outdate ( not to mention very time consuming) workflow .
The quickest and yet the most precise workflow has always been MLVFS (cdng on the fly convertor) http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0
Cross platform (PC & Mac) Just mount the MLV and import Cdng in to Premiere Pro or BM Resolve no need to waste time converting .
This is the Gold Standard for file extraction . A trusted professional workflow I can be working with ML raw file with correct audio sync in least then 2min in resolve.
Important to my workflow as I need quick turn around , I do mainly news/documentaries pieces.
Or the other amazing fast raw workflow in which you can fully grade your MLV or Raw ver. 1.0  files and export as a ProRes , DNxHD , Tiff , Png's , H264  and of course Cdng's  then try out
MLVProducer http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.0  Originally it's a PC app but will run under Wine in Mac OSX
This post explains how get MLVProducer working with Wine in OSX  http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15271.msg151403#msg151403

And from my understanding MLRawViewer exports lossless JPEG Compressed DNG's read the following posts
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg142925#msg142925
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg142928#msg142928



Indeed I used MLVFS for the above video.

I will study and will bother you again in case I am lost.

Thanks a bunch.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: george on August 01, 2016, 01:32:44 AM
I've got a black screen on w7-64. Please help.

MlRawViewer v1.3.3
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013-2014
Using GLFW
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 295, in __draw
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\Viewer", line 303, in onDraw
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 246, in renderScenes
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\Display", line 438, in prepareToRender
ZeroDivisionError: float division by zero
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 295, in __draw
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\Viewer", line 303, in onDraw
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 246, in renderScenes
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\Display", line 438, in prepareToRender
ZeroDivisionError: float division by zero
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 295, in __draw
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\Viewer", line 303, in onDraw
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 246, in renderScenes
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\Display", line 438, in prepareToRender
ZeroDivisionError: float division by zero
Traceback (most recent call last):


(The log grows very quickly; it seems that division by zero error occurs when trying to decode every frame.)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 02, 2016, 02:53:07 PM
Do get 1.4.3 from Bitbucket and retry
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: george on August 03, 2016, 11:46:58 AM
1.4.3 looks pretty much the same. It does show a right thumbnail image after launching, but then falls into black screen again with similar log records:

MlRawViewer v1.4.3
(c) Andrew Baldwin & contributors 2013-2014
Using GLFW
Loading u'D:/temp\\M28-2358.MLV'
D:/temp\M28-2358.WAV D:/temp\M28-2358.WAV
None
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 315, in __draw
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\Viewer", line 374, in onDraw
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\GLComputeGLFW", line 265, in renderScenes
  File "c:\Projects\MRV\build\mlrawviewer_win\out00-PYZ.pyz\Display", line 454, in prepareToRender
ZeroDivisionError: float division by zero


Filed a new bug, https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/issues/151/black-screen-division-by-zero
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: george on August 06, 2016, 02:04:34 AM
My issue has been fixed spontaneously after updating video drivers (nVidia K2000D).
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Thobias on August 28, 2016, 09:47:03 PM
I want convert over 100 RAW files to MOV with Log-C. Is it possible to do it in bulk or I have to do it separately? Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: GutterPump on August 28, 2016, 10:19:27 PM
Place .MLV files you want to convert in a separate folder named by exemple "batch"

Choose this folder in MLRAWviewer, make your settings and destination folder, and press C for a batch processing.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: zonapg3 on September 02, 2016, 10:04:52 PM
Hi,

I'm having a problem where MLRAW Viewer repeatedly crashes on me while exporting. I've tried all the versions and they keep crashing. My laptop hardware is more than enough to handle. I'm on Windows 10 and have a ASUS ROG GL752:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/powerReviews.jsp?sku=1183447&is=REG&source=1&[email protected]&ryp=Y

Someone please help me!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jzedurqn on October 19, 2016, 01:00:03 AM
Does anybody know how can I apply the exact same look MlRawViewer S-Log2 curve has to ML raw CDNG files imported in Premiere Pro?
I tried downloading .cube files from MlRawViewer but it produces a washed out white image, nothing similar to image I see when I play the video in MlRawViewer.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Roberto Mena on October 22, 2016, 01:51:12 AM
zonapg3, I had kind of a similar issue, what worked for me was to move or copy my RAW (MLV) files from my CF card to my hard drive and export from there using mlviewer and for some reason that worked.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: zonapg3 on November 03, 2016, 10:03:59 PM
Hey Roberto,

I'm exporting from an external hard drive. I've tried moving the files to my laptop drive and exporting and still experiences the same problem. I've tried multiple builds and they all have this crashing issue. Is this something that struggles with windows 10 or maybe this specific laptop. My computer has more than enough firepower to handle these files so I'm baffled.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on November 04, 2016, 10:54:47 AM
This is old and unfortunately unmaintained.

Did you try MLVFS already? It's on active development: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Steve_Brule on November 08, 2016, 01:57:54 AM
I click on the app, it blinks and asks me to select an MLV file, which I do ... and then nothing happens. I see the process in task manager ( windows 10), and it's chugging away, but nothing ever shows up on screen.  Is there a trick?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on November 08, 2016, 09:49:34 AM
See my post above.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: -Rogue5- on November 17, 2016, 10:54:34 AM
Pushing Shift+3 to unload the current LUT doesn't seem to be working...  Is there another way to remove loaded LUTs?


Conversely, would it also be possible to increase the number of LUT slots to 12 or something more than 2?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: justinbacle on November 18, 2016, 12:08:13 PM
You should really think about using either MLVFS, Raw2CDNG or MLVProducer which are all very good options.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Surin Dmitriy on November 29, 2016, 12:13:49 AM
What about 10 and 12 bit support?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on November 29, 2016, 12:50:37 AM
DO read post #1716
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Teamsleepkid on December 13, 2016, 06:01:20 AM
Mlvfs is great for going into resolve but this would still be cool to have working in 10 bit 12 bit for quick playback without having to render..
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Surin Dmitriy on December 13, 2016, 06:58:15 PM
Quote from: Teamsleepkid on December 13, 2016, 06:01:20 AM
Mlvfs is great for going into resolve but this would still be cool to have working in 10 bit 12 bit for quick playback without having to render..
Thats true man)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Surin Dmitriy on December 22, 2016, 07:33:06 PM
Please add 10 12 bit support...I think most of us need to view the footage at the field.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: snipeua on December 22, 2016, 09:19:56 PM
baldand Last Active:     August 19, 2015, 09:06:03 PM
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: skateshopusd on December 27, 2016, 12:40:26 PM
I have a problem with the program, the stripe correction is on and in the preview bad pixels disappear but when it's exported to mov or dng bad pixels are still there can you please help me?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: togg on March 22, 2017, 10:19:03 AM
@skateshopusd This is a long lived bug, the most serious in my opinion. No way to solve it sadly. Unless someone wants to spend some time coding it out :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 26, 2017, 07:56:56 PM
Quote from: Surin Dmitriy on November 29, 2016, 12:13:49 AM
What about 10 and 12 bit support?

Quote from: Teamsleepkid on December 13, 2016, 06:01:20 AM
Mlvfs is great for going into resolve but this would still be cool to have working in 10 bit 12 bit for quick playback without having to render..

Quote from: snipeua on December 22, 2016, 09:19:56 PM
baldand Last Active:     August 19, 2015, 09:06:03 PM

Here's yet another breakthrough from @bouncyball's recent mod work w this supercharged MLVFS (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19429.msg183756#msg183756MLVFS) which then prompt @Danne to update his already incredible tool in cr2hdr.app_lj92 (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15108.0cr2hdr.app_lj92) which now includes a working version of latest MlRawViewer to preview lossless MLV's.

You read that right, guys. So because of that there's good news. The news you guys have been waiting for.

Here's a current working copy of the newly morphed MlRawViewer 1.4.3 (basically the same as what it was previously but w the new mlv_dump) for those who don't know how to replace it under package content:
https://bitbucket.org/DeafEyeJedi/magic-lantern/downloads/MlRawViewer_lj92.zip

Enjoy and happy shooting!

Credit also goes out to @martinhering, @g3gg0 and everyone else on board for making this possible sooner rather than later.  :)

p.s. @baldand -- Hope you're reading this with all smiles that your work has been revived once again!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: domasa on April 26, 2017, 10:31:53 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on April 26, 2017, 07:56:56 PM
Here's a current working copy of the newly morphed MlRawViewer 1.4.3:
https://bitbucket.org/DeafEyeJedi/magic-lantern/downloads/MlRawViewer_lj92.zip
Can you share newly version (supported 12-bit lossless compresion) for Windows, please?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on April 27, 2017, 08:11:47 AM
Quote from: domasa on April 26, 2017, 10:31:53 PM
Can you share newly version (supported 12-bit lossless compresion) for Windows, please?

Can you just download the latest mlv_dump from experimental page (not sure if it's the same tho): https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/crop_rec_4k/19/artifact/modules/mlv_rec/mlv_dump.exe

and replace it with the mlv_dump that's inside the package content within MLRV?

Sorry wish I could be more of help in here but hopefully a Windows user will come on board and confirm this.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Roberto Mena on April 27, 2017, 11:39:07 PM
Just wanted to give a quick thank you to this group, I love this app and everything involved with ML. You guys rock to do all this and for free, you guys are a cinematic godsend. Thank you.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: extremelypoorfilmaker on May 25, 2017, 09:58:00 PM
I humbly ask if there is a windows version of mlRawViewer 1.4.3 or if are there any other programs to convert 12 bit and 14lossless mlv files for windows.
I seem to be struggling to find some.

Thanks a lot! :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on May 25, 2017, 10:40:03 PM
Latest mlv_dump from crop_rec_4k branch should work.
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/branch/crop_rec_4k

Also this should work(precompiled binary)
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19300.msg184826#msg184826
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: extremelypoorfilmaker on May 28, 2017, 09:24:15 AM
@Danne

Thanks a lot for helping out! :) Just to help clear my mind, the mlv_dump I downloaded from the link you provided, in order to make it work I have to run in using command prompt on windows, correct? (I am using windows 7 pro) Otherwise can I simply drag and drop my files onto it?

Thanks a lot, and I apologize if my question is a repetitive one.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on May 28, 2017, 10:17:18 AM
There are several topics floating around about mlv_dump and windows. Here is one.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10526.msg179063#msg179063
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: eraizgn on June 07, 2017, 06:47:53 PM
Yes, mlv_dump is working on window but we need to preview section for watching the shoot before convert thats why mlraw MLRawViewer or cDNG 1.7.9 need to be updated
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: eraizgn on June 07, 2017, 11:05:20 PM
I guess. I am able to worked with MLRawViewer 1.4.3


(http://thumb.ibb.co/ijwbQv/49abca1ac43caf5324081d4e4cae2118.jpg) (http://ibb.co/ijwbQv)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: domasa on June 27, 2017, 11:48:33 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on April 27, 2017, 08:11:47 AM
Can you just download the latest mlv_dump from experimental page (not sure if it's the same tho): https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/crop_rec_4k/19/artifact/modules/mlv_rec/mlv_dump.exe

and replace it with the mlv_dump that's inside the package content within MLRV?

Sorry wish I could be more of help in here but hopefully a Windows user will come on board and confirm this.

MlRawViewer (windows version) does not contains mlv_dump.exe.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: reddeercity on June 28, 2017, 07:05:30 AM
Here the source , if someone what to contribute --look at updating to uncompressed raw (Lossless) https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/src
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bouncyball on June 28, 2017, 12:18:09 PM
Just one note:

It's a mix of OpenGL shaders and C, glued together by python, without any useful comment in the source code.

Good luck! :P
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Roberto Mena on July 07, 2017, 10:07:11 PM
This has never happened to me with the mlrawviewer app; which I love, but recently when I renamed some MLV files I shot with my 7D and converted them to DNG files about 30 seconds of time was cut off at the end of each clip. But when if I convert my MLV files without renaming them into DNG files they are fine and the last 30 seconds of the clip remain. Anyone know why this is happening now and how to fix it? I'd like my MLV and DNG files to be named the same to archive and keep track of them a lot easier.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: the associate on July 19, 2017, 05:16:23 AM
Jusy wondering if MLRawViewer can 2x2 chroma-smooth dngs during the conversion process. If so, how does one make it do this?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 19, 2017, 11:13:58 AM
Quote from: the associate on July 19, 2017, 05:16:23 AM
Jusy wondering if MLRawViewer can 2x2 chroma-smooth dngs during the conversion process. If so, how does one make it do this?
Any reason you did not switch to MLVFS yet? http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0;topicseen
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: the associate on July 19, 2017, 04:07:43 PM
Quote from: Licaon_Kter on July 19, 2017, 11:13:58 AM
Any reason you did not switch to MLVFS yet? http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0;topicseen

Yes, actually. I haven't been able to compile the source code to use with linux. Not familiar enough with terminal to generate MAKE commands. Got as far as installing FUSE and unzipping the MLVFS master folder in my downloads folder. That's it. Would love if someone would share a step-by-step of the actual terminal commands they typed to get MLVFS up and running in ubuntu 17.04. As I mentioned in a separate thread, I'm pretty good at substituting my own values in existing commands to navigate my way around terminal, but I'm just not far along enough yet to generate entire commands from scratch. Embarrassing, I know, but it's where I am.  Would appreciate any guidance anyone could give me. Licaon_Kter: Do you use the Linux version of MLVFS by any chance?  :  )
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on July 19, 2017, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: the associate on July 19, 2017, 04:07:43 PMDo you use the Linux version of MLVFS by any chance?  :  )
I have it compiled (in the past) but I'm not up to date.
I'll update the source and try to note the steps. ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dmilligan on July 19, 2017, 04:27:10 PM
I did reply in the other thread
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: the associate on July 19, 2017, 05:47:00 PM
 
Quote from: dmilligan on July 19, 2017, 04:27:10 PM
I did reply in the other thread

dmilligan: Hadn't seen your post in the other thread before writing my previous message. Mea Culpa. Thanks much for taking the time to post your command lines. Huge help.

So, have managed to get MLVFS installed in Ubuntu 17.04. Now trying to figure out how to run it.  My browser won't open the gui at <http://localhost:8000/>, and I'm not sure what the instructions mean by "specifiy the f switch." Again am a total newb at using terminal to run programs, but once I figure it out, I'll be fine.

Anywho, thanks again for helping me to get the program installed. I really appreciate it.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Prokopios on August 11, 2017, 11:05:23 AM
Hi,
                When you preview the MLV files in the viewer depending on the type of Log you choose, the result of the export either DNG or ApProRes is quite different from what you see in the viewer of MLRawViewer. In the viewer you get a really cinematic picture but the export looks nothing like the picture in the viewer. Here are 2 snapshots if you don't mind taking a look. I am using version MlRawViewer_1_3_3_win32.

(http://thumb.ibb.co/d3Twra/C_log.png) (http://ibb.co/d3Twra)

(http://thumb.ibb.co/gdUrPv/hdr_global_tone_map.png) (http://ibb.co/gdUrPv)

 
You can clearly see the difference. Is this how it is supposed to work?? I have read the forum but can't find anything about this issue. Can you help me out at all with this problem. Maybe because the DNG that are exported are compressed? Perhaps it would help if we could export CDNG's
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 11, 2017, 01:48:52 PM
Two things:
1. Latest version is 1.4.3
2. this app is no longer developed (it's 2 years old), is the current MLVFS (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13152.0) not working for you?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 12georgiadis on August 13, 2017, 10:07:17 AM
1.4.3 not working on mac with lj92 patch (tried comp 14,12,10bits)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 13, 2017, 11:53:56 AM
What part of "this is not developed for years" was unclear? Of course new MLV files would likely not work, since 10/12 bits and other stuff is recent.
Title: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 12georgiadis on August 13, 2017, 09:09:41 PM
@licaon_Kter yes but if it was not updated for years, why There is an updated version 1.4.3 with LJ92 in the name?

Moreover, to have à Quick preview, mlvfs is superslow whereas mlrawviewer is faster.


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Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on August 13, 2017, 10:37:09 PM
Oh right that one, indeed, it replaces mlv_dump, albeit it does not modify anything else IIRC, so yeah results might not be up to date.

Now, any problems running MLVFS (since that's the one that has developers and a future) ?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Prokopios on August 14, 2017, 10:20:25 AM
Also check out MLVProducer, you can do all modifications just like in ACR straight in MLVProducer. I'm testing now.
Will also check out MLVFS. Is there an exact guide for installing and running MLVFS, for PC??
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 12georgiadis on August 14, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Mlvfs is perfect for post-processing. The only thing we need now is a Quick preview GPU tool. Mlvfs is too slow for preview.


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Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: masc on August 14, 2017, 03:55:13 PM
Quote from: 12georgiadis on August 14, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
The only thing we need now is a Quick preview GPU tool. Mlvfs is too slow for preview.
That is not true. If you have a GPU which is good enough, you can use MLVFS + Resolve and you have a realtime preview.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on August 14, 2017, 04:45:48 PM
What's fine with MlRawViewer is that it can preview dng files. So, by opening a dng file from let's say mlvfs you will bypass all lossless/10/12bit problems.
In scriptbased app "Switch" I use this bypass technique by simply dragging a MLV file straight to the Switch icon.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 12georgiadis on August 14, 2017, 09:17:42 PM
Quote from: masc on August 14, 2017, 03:55:13 PM
That is not true. If you have a GPU which is good enough, you can use MLVFS + Resolve and you have a realtime preview.

Sorry but I have difficulties to get realtime preview with a GPU 4GB ddr5 from a mac tower. On the other hands, no problem with blackmagic cinema DNG (realtime even with 30p). So please tell me how you do that. By the way, no realtime for most laptop. On MLrawviewer, when the loading bar is complete you can preview quickly. But I love MLVFS ;-)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: 12georgiadis on August 14, 2017, 09:37:54 PM
Quote from: Danne on August 14, 2017, 04:45:48 PM
What's fine with MlRawViewer is that it can preview dng files. So, by opening a dng file from let's say mlvfs you will bypass all lossless/10/12bit problems.
In scriptbased app "Switch" I use this bypass technique by simply dragging a MLV file straight to the Switch icon.

wow great ! It's working now with 1.4.3 ! Thanks Danne
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on August 14, 2017, 10:05:39 PM
Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on April 26, 2017, 07:56:56 PM
Here's yet another breakthrough from @bouncyball's recent mod work w this supercharged MLVFS (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19429.msg183756#msg183756MLVFS) which then prompt @Danne to update his already incredible tool in cr2hdr.app_lj92 (https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15108.0cr2hdr.app_lj92) which now includes a working version of latest MlRawViewer to preview lossless MLV's.

You read that right, guys. So because of that there's good news. The news you guys have been waiting for.

Here's a current working copy of the newly morphed MlRawViewer 1.4.3 (basically the same as what it was previously but w the new mlv_dump) for those who don't know how to replace it under package content:
https://bitbucket.org/DeafEyeJedi/magic-lantern/downloads/MlRawViewer_lj92.zip

Enjoy and happy shooting!

Credit also goes out to @martinhering, @g3gg0 and everyone else on board for making this possible sooner rather than later.  :)

p.s. @baldand -- Hope you're reading this with all smiles that your work has been revived once again!

How do I do this for Windows? I cannot find a MLV_dump in the folder?


Edit: is this specific to MLVFS ?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: bouncyball on August 17, 2017, 10:58:02 AM
Nope it's not. It's just Danne's Switch uses MLRawViewer for previewing DNGs produced either by MLVFS or mlv_dump ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on August 17, 2017, 11:03:00 AM
Okey, well then its working on Windows aswell. I can play the DNG output from MLV_Dump in MLRawViewer.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: cosmo.lv on September 17, 2017, 05:32:07 AM
MiRawViewer not working well on OSX High sierra, there are some glitches.
When hover with mouse pointer on miraw app window the pointer dissapears and it works bad there :(

Anyway there are long time without updates. :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Licaon_Kter on September 17, 2017, 03:11:32 PM
@cosmo.lv Does MLVFS not cover your use cases?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on October 20, 2017, 12:38:50 PM
I've been working on updating mlrawviewer 1.4.3 to also support 10 and 12-bit raw MLV files, and MLV files that use in-camera LJPEG92 compression (so-called 'compressed RAW' MLV files).

So far, I've been able to fix MlRaw.py and bitunpack.c in such a way that, on my computer, mlrawviewer now plays all types of files I can get out of the current crop_rec_4k branch, i.e.
- 10, 12, and 14 bit raw MLV
- the 8-11, 12 and 14 bit compressed (LJPEG92) MLVs
but also
- compressed and uncompressed DNGs created by mlv_dump (the DNGs are 14-bits - don't know how to create 10 or 12-bits DNGs).

I currently work on MacOS Sierra but I see no reason why this wouldn't work on Windows - it's just that I don't have the dev env installed on Win.

Now the problem: I don't seem to be able to create a pull request on Andrew Baldwin's bitbucket repository. Is there anyone who can help me with this?

/Henk
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on October 20, 2017, 02:37:01 PM
Wooah. If you manage to fix lossless playback for mlrawviewer, you will save me a lot of headache.

Baldwin has not been active for several years now. I suppose you might aswell make a new branch. As I think you could take over this project if you wanted to. But ofcourse, lets see what the higher ups here have to say. (I know next to nothing on how bitbucket works) But MLRawViewer is opensource and untouched for aboit 3-4 years, yet it stands at the core of almost every ML user.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 20, 2017, 02:44:21 PM
@hwdbk Nicely done. Do you have your changes in any source tree? You could use bitbucket and upload the whole code you worked with there. Would also be nice to know how you compile MlRawViewer since I personally have a hard time compiling the code into something useful.

About creating a pull request. The way I´ve done it is by first forking a version of the original code into my own bitbucket repository. Once done with code changes which I work with locally on the computer, I push the changes into my own fork then I create the pull request from my bitbucket account repository.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on October 20, 2017, 03:18:05 PM
Yeah, the headache of converting everything back to 14-bit MLV or DNG was just too much for me. And, it was an excellent excuse for me to peek under the hood of this piece of software (and mlv_dump, where it al starts, of course). So, the two main reasons for giving this a shot was a) to play whatever I recorded without further conversion and b) streamline the workflow in creating an edit-ready ProRes copy straight off the MLV (then, mlrawviewer would be some sort of speedgrade).

Compiling: yes, that was perhaps the steepest part of the learning curve - I had never programmed in Python before (I'm a C,C++,C#,bash guy still getting irritated about the dumb indents) but I kept a record of what I did to get it going (perhaps the cmake-glfw3-xcode exercise was the worst of it all). I'll include a howto.txt, but can't verify if it is any good: once you've installed all the modules and tools, there's no going back without a full restore and retry. And there's that other thing with distributing ffmpeg as part of the package that I am not comfortable with....

I'll see about the bitbucket. What you describe about forking in one's own repository makes sense and should work.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 20, 2017, 04:28:33 PM
You could erase the ffmpeg binary after compiling. Well not if it´s gonna be used obviously but if MlRawViever is used primarily as a viewer...
Looking forward to a compiling guide and hopefully your code somewhere :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on October 20, 2017, 04:42:39 PM
Fingers crossed:

https://bitbucket.org/hwdbk/mlrawviewer/branch/raw_video_10bit_12bit_lj92compressed

and some background information:
https://bitbucket.org/hwdbk/mlrawviewer/commits/6ab1892e50b82ba9307256b6ef4b14f06e2c518a?at=raw_video_10bit_12bit_lj92compressed

Very concise 'howto build' in the README

Henk
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 20, 2017, 04:57:43 PM
Getting there but:
(https://s1.postimg.org/1pgsu4py1b/Screen_Shot_2017-10-20_at_16.58.06.png)

Check under settings.

*links working now. Nice.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: a1ex on October 20, 2017, 05:47:16 PM
openSUSE:

sudo zypper install python-numpy python-PyAudio libglfw3
sudo pip2 install PyOpenGL==3.0.2


It works 8)

Tested with a 14-bit uncompressed and a 10-bit lossless MLV. Both rendered correctly.

Quirks:
- After pressing L, next time it will start with black screen and a bunch of errors in console. Don't panic - press L again (once, screen remains black), reboot and it's back to life.
- Pressing Q (I've assumed it's quit) gives corrupted display. Press Q again to get back to normal.
- Pressing TAB (full-screen) twice results in segfault.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on October 20, 2017, 06:05:33 PM
[Q] turns the AMaZE demosaicing on and off. There is a code branch that does the decoding/decompression and demosaicing in one go - and still uses the quite-not-working bitunpack code. On my machine (Mac OS), this code never gets called because it first explicitly decodes the frame in 16 bit samples, and _then_ calls the demosaicing function.

Fixing the other 'broken' bitunpack readers (there were some 7 copies of approx the same code in there) is the next thing to do. Or is it getting my Ubunty VM up and running again? :-)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on October 22, 2017, 10:45:46 AM
Tried with a clean Ubuntu VM (Ubuntu Linux 16.04):

All I had to do to get it going was:
- sudo apt-get install python-opengl
- sudo apt-get install python-numpy
- sudo apt-get install python-dev        (to be able to compile bitunpack etc.)
- sudo apt install python-pip
- pip install scandir
- sudo apt install ffmpeg
in the mlrawviewer directory:
- python setup.py build
- cp ./build/lib.linux-x86_64-2.7/bitunpack.so .
and then run the program from the command line:
- python mlrawviewer.py <MLV-file.MLV>


Quirks: Yes, I can reproduce the garbled output when High Quality demosaicing (AMaZE) is used in combination with LJPEG-compressed MLVs and in that mode. In that mode, the app also shows something of memory leak in 'top'. I'll look into that, maybe it's related.
The other quirks (TAB for fullscreen, L for looping the clip), I can't reproduce and work properly on my VM.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on October 23, 2017, 09:31:37 AM
Hi all,

I've created a new version over the weekend,

- bitunpack: treat code with generic bit depth - now works with any depth 7-16 (tested with 7,8,9,11,13,15,16 bits created with mlv_dump, as these bit depths are not created from the camera); 10,12 and 14 from regular camera MLVs.
- fixed LJ92 decoding from within the Demosaic function (was not called and caused garbled output, basically showing the raw compressed data rather than the decompressed image)
- major cleanup of MlRaw.py - lots of code was never called
- code now also tested on Ubuntu, see README

https://bitbucket.org/hwdbk/mlrawviewer/commits/3d7c98f3a875d66451217aa212ea8a4c9d409d3c
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on October 23, 2017, 09:34:11 AM
Is this for PC aswell ?

EDIT: see its mac only

Anyways, from what I could understand, Baldwin's code was a big mess of shaders and python and C+ or whatever, so much that the usual coders lost hope in that jungle code. Good job!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on October 23, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
Yes, it seems that code was written, then split up (for instance demosaic = predemosaic+lowlevel_demosaic+postdemosaic, but the original demosaic was not taken down - lots of duplication and code specifically for 12 or 14 bit, or worse, for an implied bit depth, not taking bitsPerSample from the file into account. So, a lot of that has been cleaned up and I have a much better understanding of what the program does.

On Windows: it should work but I'm in no position to try this build. I'm on Mac OS and Ubuntu. Looking for a volunteer to build the Windows version and report back here.

/Henk
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on October 23, 2017, 01:37:41 PM
Sorry, but I dont know how to compile or build.

But I can do extensive testing of any win build, if someone else makes a build and i am sure lots of others will too, on mac or pc.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Lars Steenhoff on October 23, 2017, 02:42:03 PM
tested on osx High Sierra version MLRawViewer 1.5

Results:

14 bit uncompressed works
14 bit compressed gives me back screen.

Do I need to install something extra like python gl ?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 23, 2017, 03:55:35 PM
I´ve been messing with compiling and boy it´s a hustle on my macs. Almost have it working following a mix of instructions from hwdbk and elsewhere. Try following this and see if you get it to work. I think we should start a dedicated MlRawViewer compiling thread soon. No time atm:

Compile from this branch:
https://bitbucket.org/hwdbk/mlrawviewer/branch/raw_video_10bit_12bit_lj92compressed

pip
sudo -H easy_install pip

homebrew
/usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"

macports
https://www.macports.org/

xcode
https://developer.apple.com/xcode/

command line tools
xcode-select --install

ffmpeg
brew install ffmpeg

PyInstaller
sudo -H easy_install PyInstaller
   
PyOpenGL
sudo -H pip install PyOpenGL
If above PyOpenGL doesn´t work uninstall it and install instead:
sudo -H pip install -I PyOpenGL==3.0.2

pynumpy
sudo -H pip install numpy
      
glfw3
brew install glfw

Then grab the file here:
/usr/local/Cellar/glfw/3.2.1/lib/libglfw.3.2.dylib
rename it to libglfw3.dylib and place in in mlrawviewer/extlibs dir folder together with a ffmpeg binary
http://www.ffmpegmac.net/resources/Lion_Mountain_Lion_Mavericks_Yosemite_El-Captain_15.05.2017.zip
   
scandir
sudo -H pip install scandir
   
pyAudio
sudo -H port install portaudio
sudo -H pip -v install --global-option=build_ext --global-option="-I/opt/local/include" --global-option="-L/opt/local/lib" pyaudio

Now run following shell script from within mlrawviewer folder:
./makemac.sh

About dmg creation
If you don´t get the expected dmg package it might need a bigger container. Change this line in makemac-sh:
hdiutil create -srcfolder "macdmg" -volname "MlRawViewer 1.5.0" -fs HFS+ -fsargs "-c c=64,a=16,e=16" -format UDRW -size 58000k mlrawviewer.temp.dmg
to
hdiutil create -srcfolder "macdmg" -volname "MlRawViewer 1.5.0" -fs HFS+ -fsargs "-c c=64,a=16,e=16" -format UDRW -size 100000k mlrawviewer.temp.dmg




Expected issues:
- Black screen
- White screen
- tkinter import not working and different flags not being copied:
https://github.com/pyinstaller/pyinstaller/issues/1350
ie.
22543 WARNING: failed to copy flags of /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Scripts/msgs/hi.msg
22548 WARNING: failed to copy flags of /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Scripts/msgs/es_bo.msg
22553 WARNING: failed to copy flags of /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Scripts/package.tcl
22558 WARNING: failed to copy flags of /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Scripts/encoding/cp950.enc
22562 WARNING: failed to copy flags of /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Scripts/msgs/en_bw.msg
22567 WARNING: failed to copy flags of /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Scripts/encoding/cp737.enc
22571 WARNING: failed to copy flags of /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Scripts/msgs/gl_es.msg


Expected to be working:
- Everything functioning except dragging MLV files onto MLRawViewer

When dragging I get this most probably related to failed to copy flags issues:
(https://s1.postimg.org/5prkn7cbkf/Screen_Shot_2017-10-24_at_15.04.33.png)

On one of my machines I had it working by installing:
pillow
sudo -H pip install pillow
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on October 23, 2017, 06:49:04 PM
For those of you who would wish to try:

https://bitbucket.org/hwdbk/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer%201.5.0%20(Commit%203d7c98f,%20Mac%20OS%20X%20build).zip

No ffmpeg inside due to licensing issues, see Danne's instructions above; ffmpeg goes into Contents/MacOS or Contents/MacOS/extlibs - can't figure out why one sometimes works and the other not, or reverse... Just try out with the E key (export to MOV) and you'll quickly find out.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Lars Steenhoff on October 23, 2017, 08:37:46 PM
I can't install the audio part

sudo port install portaudio
sudo: port: command not found
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 23, 2017, 08:57:12 PM
You´ll need macports:
https://www.macports.org/

Command line tools and maybe xcode too...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Lars Steenhoff on October 23, 2017, 08:59:35 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 23, 2017, 09:37:51 PM
If on python 2.7.10 be prepared for this issue:
https://github.com/pyinstaller/pyinstaller/issues/1350
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 24, 2017, 03:00:31 PM
Updated this post with some more dependency links and an issue tracker regarding compiling:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg192172#msg192172
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Teamsleepkid on October 24, 2017, 07:14:53 PM
so i tried it. 1.5 and...its really great. maybe some of the best looking images I've ever gotten out of a magic lantern post production tool. but...i see focus pixels! god damn focus pixels always ruin everything. I mean they are much worse with the stripe correction turned off. if you turn it on they go away a little bit. but they are still there. I know this is another guys software but any way to tweek it? also the mov export doesn't seem to work. the dng works fine. feel like i could use my eos m for a film if i could just find the right post production tools...excited for dannes new switch app with gui as well. currently using switch. thanks guys.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on October 25, 2017, 07:41:32 AM
Quote from: Teamsleepkid on October 24, 2017, 07:14:53 PM
so i tried it. 1.5 and...its really great. maybe some of the best looking images I've ever gotten out of a magic lantern post production tool. but...i see focus pixels! god damn focus pixels always ruin everything. I mean they are much worse with the stripe correction turned off. if you turn it on they go away a little bit. but they are still there. I know this is another guys software but any way to tweek it? also the mov export doesn't seem to work. the dng works fine. feel like i could use my eos m for a film if i could just find the right post production tools...excited for dannes new switch app with gui as well. currently using switch. thanks guys.
On my Ubuntu, I can't get MOV export going either (DNG works). It does launch an ffmpeg subprocess with the right parameters (you can see with ps -efww), but that process stalls - I guess it's not getting raw frames through stdin. Was looking at it yesterday evening (subprocess class, Popen) but no apparent solution yet.
On the focus pixels, I think I know what you mean, that regardless of the AMaZEing demosaicing algorithm, still some pixellation occurs, for instance between tree leaves. If you mean a more general pixellation, please try the Q button and see if AMaZE improves things (PS> AMaZE is always on when exporting to MOV, always off (RAW mode) when exporting to DNG). Please could you post an image of your artefact?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 25, 2017, 08:17:49 AM
@hwdbk. It´s worse than that regarding the focus pixels for these cams:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16054.0

dfort, dmilligan, bouncyball spent some quality time on this and streamlined solutions into mlv_dump which I use in scriptbased tool Switch(also used in MLVFS and batch_mlv, probably in MLV app and MLVP too) bit MlRawViewer has some other pixel fixing code, not sure how well it works.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 27, 2017, 08:35:19 PM
Great work on updating MLRV to 1.5 since it has been long overdue, quite frankly. Thanks @hwdbk for your contributions!

Just in case anyone hasn't notice yet already but if I use the one that's shared by @hwdbk's bitbucket site (build 10/23) then upon previewing Lossless 14-bit Dual-ISO files I get all kinds of garbled rainbow effect (funky type of false color alike) however when I use the version that's shared by @Danne's bitbucket (build 10/20) it shows the Dual-ISO stripes like normal upon previewing.

Can anyone else confirm this to be reproducible on your end?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Rob Curd on October 30, 2017, 12:18:19 AM
I've also installed version 1.5 but having the no export to prores problem.

Sorry total noob question but do I need to install anything other than the .dng?

This stuff is way over my head but exporting to pro res is just such an easier option for me.

Thanks


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Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on October 30, 2017, 07:37:43 AM
@DeafEyeJedi: I'm seeng the striped output on dusl-iso 14bit raw, nothing stranger than expected. Which OS are you on? Could it be that what you see depends on the zoom/scale/size of the window? AFAIK, Danne is working on essentially the same version. The branches haven't divergered much yet

@Rob: yes, I know MOV export doesn't work on Linux, no pointer as to why ffmpeg doesn't receive the raw frames from stdin. Any help there is welcome.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: DeafEyeJedi on October 30, 2017, 05:15:37 PM
Quote from: hwdbk on October 30, 2017, 07:37:43 AM
@DeafEyeJedi: I'm seeng the striped output on dusl-iso 14bit raw, nothing stranger than expected. Which OS are you on? Could it be that what you see depends on the zoom/scale/size of the window? AFAIK, Danne is working on essentially the same version. The branches haven't divergered much yet

That's quite strange. This was done on a Mac Mini running OS X 10.12.6 and here's how it actually looks when comparing one another.

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Rob Curd on October 30, 2017, 06:01:58 PM
Quote from: hwdbk on October 30, 2017, 07:37:43 AM
@Rob: yes, I know MOV export doesn't work on Linux, no pointer as to why ffmpeg doesn't receive the raw frames from stdin. Any help there is welcome.


Hi sorry, failed to mention, I'm on a Mac

Thanks


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Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 30, 2017, 06:05:03 PM
Is ffmpeg even in there? Need to fetch a version maybe.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Rob Curd on October 30, 2017, 06:33:05 PM
Quote from: Danne on October 30, 2017, 06:05:03 PM
Is ffmpeg even in there? Need to fetch a version maybe.

Again sorry, I have downloaded the latest ffmpeg however where does this need to be located for MLRV to recognise it?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on October 30, 2017, 06:38:35 PM
Download the official mlrawviewer and check inside.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Rob Curd on October 30, 2017, 11:41:44 PM
Quote from: Danne on October 30, 2017, 06:38:35 PM
Download the official mlrawviewer and check inside.
Likely me being incredibly dense. The program works perfectly exporting to Dng but when exported to pro res I get this screen for a few seconds then stops.

Thanks for your patience.

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Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: daycon on November 01, 2017, 09:59:14 AM
I am unable to render out to either prores or dng, has there been a fix for this?

running mac sierra 10.12.5
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on November 03, 2017, 06:24:55 PM
@Rob: what you're experiencing is what I can reproduce ON LINUX. So far, I've been able to pinpoint it to stdin for the ffmpeg process not coming through. I (sort of) ruled out ffmpeg itself because the problem (stalling output) occurs with ffmpeg 2.7 as well with ffmpeg 3.3. So it must have to do with the Popen stdin piping or the thread that feeds (writes to) stdin of ffmpeg. In fact, if I fake ffmpeg with a script, I can see that no data comes in at all on stdin. Any suggestions are welcome because I am not familiar with Pyton Popen.

@daycon: MOV rendering should work on Mac OS (it does for several users, not just me), read the posts, but not for Linux, it seems. DNG rendering should work if you use the latest commit; in the first commit it didn't, sorry. I fixed it by writing 16-bit DNGs, that seems to work (in fact, if I want these DNGs to work in Adobe Premiere, only the 16-bit ones seem to work anyway). If I have time I will look at this issue.

Thanks.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on November 03, 2017, 06:47:58 PM
And here is hoping for PC being able to just play MLV's :)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on November 03, 2017, 06:57:31 PM
Kharak. You should dig into compiling this one :). Not sure where to start and I got one way working on one of my macs. Spent way too many hours with this ;)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on November 03, 2017, 10:37:19 PM
I am scared of the word "compile". I know that it is not exactly programming, but I know nothing of the sorts.

And i have so little time on my hand. The older one gets, the less time is on ones hands.

I will look in to that tread that is somewhere on the forum, that i think a1ex made for newbies compiling or something like that.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on November 21, 2017, 08:34:27 AM
On the .MOV export not working (MacOS X) from a built version of  MlRawViewer, I found the following glitch: if ffmpeg is updated on your machine (I use MacPorts), the old binary copied into the MlRawViewer.app/Contents/MacOS/ffmpeg path for some reason no longer works. In mlrawviewer.log I get
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "ExportQueue.py", line 796, in stdoutWriter
IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe

repeated 11 times. The export process stops after showing 0.00% for a couple of seconds. I think this means that the dynamic libraries and ffmpeg executable somehow go together, and also that a distributed version of the MlRawViewer.app with ffmpeg inside not necessarily works.
This problem is not related (I think) to the 'ffmpeg doesn't get data' problem where the export process stops at a couple of percent and then stalls.
The saga continues...
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: MikePeralta on December 01, 2017, 01:58:07 PM
Are there any other programs that can read or transcode MLV files? I've just installed and get the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/GLComputeGLFW.py", line 315, in __draw
    self.onDraw(w,h)
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/Viewer.py", line 374, in onDraw
    self.renderScenes()
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/GLComputeGLFW.py", line 265, in renderScenes
    s.prepareToRender()
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/Display.py", line 447, in prepareToRender
    self.iconBackground.rectangle(80,height,rgba=(0.0,0.0,0.0,0.25))
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/GLComputeUI.py", line 295, in rectangle
    self.setVab(vertices)
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/GLComputeUI.py", line 289, in setVab
    self.svbo.update(vertices,self.svbobase)
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/GLComputeUI.py", line 90, in update
    self.vbo[ow:(ow+len(data))] = data
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/OpenGL/arrays/vbo.py", line 262, in __setitem__
    size = ArrayDatatype.arrayByteCount( self.data[0] )
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/OpenGL/arrays/arraydatatype.py", line 184, in arrayByteCount
    return cls.getHandler(value).arrayByteCount( value )
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/OpenGL/arrays/arraydatatype.py", line 53, in __call__
    typ.__module__, type.__name__, repr(value)[:50]
TypeError: No array-type handler for type numpy.type (value: 0.0) registered
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: flostro on December 14, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
Great to see MlrawViewer is still being worked on. Is there a Windows Release with the added functionality on the horizon?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: gigilyer on December 22, 2017, 06:50:51 PM
Can someone please help me figure out how to remove this band (or lines or whatever) on my footage? My files render into DNG sequences and videos just fine but these lines are not removed throught out the process. I have seen other people use mlrawviewer and produce videos without these lines or horizontal bands. PLEASE I NEED YOUR HELP
(https://thumb.ibb.co/eaEDPm/Screenshot_543.png) (https://ibb.co/eaEDPm)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on January 05, 2018, 10:09:42 AM
Quote from: MikePeralta on December 01, 2017, 01:58:07 PM
Are there any other programs that can read or transcode MLV files? I've just installed and get the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/GLComputeGLFW.py", line 315, in __draw
    self.onDraw(w,h)
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/Viewer.py", line 374, in onDraw
    self.renderScenes()
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/GLComputeGLFW.py", line 265, in renderScenes
    s.prepareToRender()
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/Display.py", line 447, in prepareToRender
    self.iconBackground.rectangle(80,height,rgba=(0.0,0.0,0.0,0.25))
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/GLComputeUI.py", line 295, in rectangle
    self.setVab(vertices)
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/GLComputeUI.py", line 289, in setVab
    self.svbo.update(vertices,self.svbobase)
  File "/home/mike/Downloads/magic lantern/baldand-mlrawviewer-e7abaaf4cf9b/GLComputeUI.py", line 90, in update
    self.vbo[ow:(ow+len(data))] = data
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/OpenGL/arrays/vbo.py", line 262, in __setitem__
    size = ArrayDatatype.arrayByteCount( self.data[0] )
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/OpenGL/arrays/arraydatatype.py", line 184, in arrayByteCount
    return cls.getHandler(value).arrayByteCount( value )
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/OpenGL/arrays/arraydatatype.py", line 53, in __call__
    typ.__module__, type.__name__, repr(value)[:50]
TypeError: No array-type handler for type numpy.type (value: 0.0) registered


It looks to me that the numerical math library numpy is not installed properly on your system.
Try sudo pip install numpy or take a look at https://scipy.org/install.html

I would also recommend to no longer use the baldand release, but the latest from
https://bitbucket.org/hwdbk/mlrawviewer/branches/
which is
https://bitbucket.org/hwdbk/mlrawviewer/branch/fix_focus_pixels

Cheers, Henk
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on January 05, 2018, 10:12:07 AM
Quote from: gigilyer on December 22, 2017, 06:50:51 PM
Can someone please help me figure out how to remove this band (or lines or whatever) on my footage? My files render into DNG sequences and videos just fine but these lines are not removed throught out the process. I have seen other people use mlrawviewer and produce videos without these lines or horizontal bands. PLEASE I NEED YOUR HELP
(https://thumb.ibb.co/eaEDPm/Screenshot_543.png) (https://ibb.co/eaEDPm)


This looks like a Dual-ISO shot. I don't think MlRawViewer handles Dual-ISO in a special way, so you'd need to postprocess the DNGs yourself, or use alternative tools like mlv_dump directly.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: hwdbk on January 05, 2018, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: flostro on December 14, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
Great to see MlrawViewer is still being worked on. Is there a Windows Release with the added functionality on the horizon?
I am in no position to maintain the windows build due to lack of expertise, but you're welcome to give it a try :-)
The latest sources are found in
https://bitbucket.org/hwdbk/mlrawviewer/branch/fix_focus_pixels
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: whysodifficult on February 27, 2018, 05:02:11 AM
Quote from: hwdbk on October 23, 2017, 06:49:04 PM
For those of you who would wish to try:

https://bitbucket.org/hwdbk/mlrawviewer/downloads/MlRawViewer%201.5.0%20(Commit%203d7c98f,%20Mac%20OS%20X%20build).zip

No ffmpeg inside due to licensing issues, see Danne's instructions above; ffmpeg goes into Contents/MacOS or Contents/MacOS/extlibs - can't figure out why one sometimes works and the other not, or reverse... Just try out with the E key (export to MOV) and you'll quickly find out.

1) MLV opens okay, but Mac gives an error 10813 when i'm changing the Open With (in the Get Info window) to Change All. Just want the app would run automatically when i click any mlv file.

2) So this version of an app cannot convert MLV to any format, like prores and H.264/5? An in order to make it work, i can place ffmpeg file(s) into contents folder of an app? What excactly files from ffmpeg?

Thank you!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nicolaselhani on March 28, 2018, 08:21:28 PM
Not sure if I'm in the right thread, but it seems like all MLRawViewer stuff are here.

I am on a 2013 MacBook Pro Retina with the latest version of High Sierra 10.13.3 and downloaded MLRawViewer 1.4.3.
I have MLV files from a Canon 5D Mark II at 1856x1044 @ 23.976 fps.

I am trying to export the file with MLRawViewer but nothing is happening.

To export we press E twice right? Once to add to Queue and another time to export?

Also how do we select a location target folder where we want to export?

Any help would be appreciated, and sorry if I posted in the wrong thread, I can see it's very strict, I did my best to pick the right one.

Thanks,

Nick

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on March 28, 2018, 09:00:01 PM
What Format are you trying to export? Prores or DNG ?

Recently someone posted that with the newest release on Mac OS, Prores export did not work anymore. I dont know if High Sierra is that newest one or not (I am on Windows) or if it was an update to the OS that made it not work anymore.

To choose Target Location, press W. Navigate to the folder/location you want to export to.

E is for Export. If you have to press twice, I dont think so.

How about trying MLV App ? https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=20025.0

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nicolaselhani on March 28, 2018, 09:53:40 PM
Hi Kharak,

Thanks for your quick reply.

Sorry for not mentioning my export format, it was indeed ProRes that I'm trying to export to, and it's not working.

DNG works fine. But I have always worked in ProRes, so when I saw MlRawViewer could export to ProRes I was so happy.

I'll check out MLV app as you mentioned. From your experience if there was an export from both MLRawViewer and MLVApp both in ProRes on the same file, should the final result be theoretically the same?

I can downgrade to a previous version of macOS (the current one is terrible anyways) if MLRawViewer is worth it.

Thanks again for your help,

Nick
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: jpegmasterjesse on March 29, 2018, 09:34:43 AM
Yeah, had this same problem after upgrade.  I liked MLRawviewer a bunch because I knew it very well, but have switched to MlvApp now and am enjoying it's robust features, while still getting used to some of the basics of image control.

Check out Switch, too, it has some pretty robust features that could make your life easier working with prores.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on March 29, 2018, 10:55:52 AM
Mlv app and Mlrawviewer both use ffmpeg to encode Prores. But I cant say for sure that the output will be equal. Baldand, the developer of MLVrawviewer implemented some sort of Shaders in use with the GPU. I dont know what the shaders  do exactly, maybe some way of interpolating colours or repressing sensor artifacts. Just guessing.


But both programs are free and easy to use. MLV app is being developed by several individuals, where mlvrawviewer has not been touched for years.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nicolaselhani on March 29, 2018, 03:40:13 PM
Thanks for your useful information guys. I gave MLV app a go, seems pretty robust for now, and I think as you said, there's been slow development on the MLRawViewer, so it might be better future-proofing getting to work with MLV app as things stand.

Quote from: jpegmasterjesse on March 29, 2018, 09:34:43 AM
Check out Switch, too, it has some pretty robust features that could make your life easier working with prores.

As for Switch, the only thing I found relating to it is a command line tool, do you use that version or is there a GUI version available somewhere?

Thanks
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on March 29, 2018, 04:52:11 PM
Switch
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15108.0
Runs automation processing executed from bash menus.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: nicolaselhani on March 29, 2018, 06:16:24 PM
Quote from: Danne on March 29, 2018, 04:52:11 PM
Switch
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=15108.0
Runs automation processing executed from bash menus.

Thank you so much,

Nick
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dfgh on April 09, 2018, 03:20:33 PM
Hi,

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I just updated to windows 10 and I can't get any versions of MLRAWViewer to load up any more. I tried to open it and it just doesn't

Tried : Runs as admin
          Compatibility mode
          loads of different builds
          Turning of windows defender app control

Any ideas?


UPDATE: OK that fixed itself somehow after a restart,  may have even been an update to windows that did it.

The problem I have now is, that it won't export, what am I doing wrong now?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Xuukihead on June 04, 2018, 07:52:03 PM
Im using Melt : https://www.mltframework.org/ to edit video footage, which im not sure can edit raw files but works however with Mov files.
I havent successfully converted the raw files with MIRawViewer  to a Mov what appears is the following image throughout 
(https://thumb.ibb.co/hmPBXo/Screen_Shot_2018_06_04_at_19_51_18.png) (https://ibb.co/hmPBXo)


What is happening here?

Many thanks

Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: dra37 on July 24, 2018, 12:24:47 AM
Hello guys, thank you for keeping on working on MLRawViewer.

I just upgraded from a 5d MK II to a MK III

After trying the MlRawViewer (Commit 283bdee, Mac OS X build, 20171121).zip, I managed to read 10 and 12 bit .MLV files and export them to DNG. I do, however, also have a problem when exporting to MOV: the export stays stuck at 0% for a while and then it stops.

Does anyone have a solution to this problem? I tried a few alternatives to MLRawViewer, but I prefer the quality and the workflow of MLRawViewer and wish to continue working with it.

Thank you for your help,

All the best!


(https://thumb.ibb.co/nvoE3o/Screen_Shot_2018_07_23_at_6_23_40_PM.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nvoE3o)
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: leandroprz on November 01, 2018, 05:35:15 PM
I'm having issues viewing MLV files.
The program shows I have two files inside a folder:

(https://i.imgur.com/PU17Adn.jpg)

But when I access the folder, I don't see any files:

(https://i.imgur.com/TweBrgu.jpg)

Yet they are there in the file explorer:

(https://i.imgur.com/UxNoN1y.jpg)

I'm using v1.4.3 on Windows 10.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 01, 2018, 05:45:44 PM
"MlRawViewer is a cross-platform viewer for raw video files produced by Magic Lantern." and outdated, not supported anymore. Nobody will fix your issue.
Move on to supported applications.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: leandroprz on November 01, 2018, 07:59:23 PM
Quote from: Walter Schulz on November 01, 2018, 05:45:44 PM
"MlRawViewer is a cross-platform viewer for raw video files produced by Magic Lantern." and outdated, not supported anymore. Nobody will fix your issue.
Move on to supported applications.

I didn't know it was outdated. What application is people using now?
This one maybe? https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=20025.0
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Walter Schulz on November 01, 2018, 09:25:57 PM
Most people prefer running native programs programmed for the OS they are actually running. Don't know if W10's Linux subsystem supports MLV App.
Take your pick among https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=54.0

And your problem with MLRAWviewer is most likely caused by path length. I suggest to redesign your directory structure if you want to avoid further troubles.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: leandroprz on November 01, 2018, 09:38:27 PM
That's great information, thank you!
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Danne on November 01, 2018, 09:39:30 PM
Mlv App runs natively under windows too.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on November 01, 2018, 11:49:07 PM
To be fair, Mlrawviewer is not that outdated except for the fact no new version has been released in years, if you wanna play vanilla MLV's it works fine. Also for viewing uncompresssed DNG's it works perfectly.

I use MLrawviewer all the time for reviewing footage, in my opinion it's the most intuitive program for Raw or DNG viewing. Its fast, has a fast WB correction, LUT support and most major Log profiles.

Can also work with other brands DNG outputs.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Kharak on March 11, 2019, 01:57:42 PM
I cant run MLRawViewer on this Windows 10 Home Laptop I purchased.

Its a cheap HP Laptop with i5 8250u CPU @ 1.60 GHz  1.80 Ghz - a NVidia MX110. 8 GB Ram This computer actually runs 14 bit 1920x1080 Cinamdng's from on Resolve very well! With only two nodes its real-time... That blew my mind. A testament to Davinci.

anyways, I cant get MLRawViewer to run, which I always use to review footage.

Windows error message:

QuoteC:\Program Files (x86)\MlRawViewer_1_4_3\mlrawviewer.exe

The Application has failed to start because its side-by-side configuration is incorrect. Please see the application event log or use the command-line sxstrace.exe tool for more detail

I have no idea what this means, online one suggestion for the Side By Side issue was to reinstal Microsoft Visual C++ Redistrabutable XXXX I reinstalled a few.. But Nothing. Any changes or locations this should be on.

Or is it the GPU that is not supported.

Please give me some suggestions.

Ofcourse the alternative is to just use Davinci for reviewing, but I have a good workflow for MLRawViewer being my Review app before Moving/deleting.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: snipeua on March 11, 2019, 02:28:13 PM
Guys, where you got version 1.4.3 for windows?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: masc on March 11, 2019, 02:33:50 PM
https://bitbucket.org/baldand/mlrawviewer/downloads/
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: AlexRo on June 19, 2019, 09:57:30 AM
I have an issue. It does not export to dng. MOV is ok, but when i start export to dng it only creates a folder and does nothing else. Anybody knows how to fix this?
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: Dmytro_ua on June 20, 2019, 09:49:18 PM
MlRawViewer is abandoned and doesn't suuport anymore.
For DNG export try MLV App 1.7 or smth like this.
Title: Re: MlRawViewer 1.3.3 (CDNG/MLV/RAW Viewer & Encoder, Linux/Mac/Win)
Post by: wib on June 28, 2019, 11:41:31 AM
Quote from: leandroprz on November 01, 2018, 05:35:15 PM
I'm having issues viewing MLV files.
The program shows I have two files inside a folder:

But when I access the folder, I don't see any files:

(https://i.imgur.com/TweBrgu.jpg)


Hi! I have that issue too in the 1.5 version (for mac) but I think it's related only to MLV files in lossless compressions. When I open a folder with MLV files that weren't shot in lossless raw, in MlRawViewer 1.43, there are the previews.

But honestly I don't think it's a real issue.. I just drag and drop on the MlRawViewer's window the MLV files that I want to review, from the finder folder, to play them...